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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 12:29pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:
Sometimes, when I'm sent some designs, I request the Architect to explain how he intends to achieve some aspects including materials to use.

Am I the only one?

Because some of these designs give sleepless nights.
This is the reason why the Architect's services does not end at the design stage. The Architect should be involved in all aspect of the building procurement processes.
It may interest you to know that there are other additional services which the Architect should be engaged to carry out, such as EIA, Post occupancy evaluation etc.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:43pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:
Sometimes, when I'm sent some designs, I request the Architect to explain how he intends to achieve some aspects including materials to use.

Am I the only one?

Because some of these designs give sleepless nights.

Honestly! That makes two of us. Some are even without rhyme or reason. I just look at some designs and I keep asking myself; what is the STATEMENT the architect is trying to make? The aspects and accent are so busy and all over the place that one is just left bewildered.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 2:34pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Im sorry. My guys are a bit busy at the moment..

You can try @rotecch77
Thanks for the mentioned bro

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 3:03pm On Jan 29, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 3:48pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:
Sometimes, when I'm sent some designs, I request the Architect to explain how he intends to achieve some aspects including materials to use.

Am I the only one?

Because some of these designs give sleepless nights.
You are not the only one, you should always ask it is necessary.
that is why i always update my clients at each level, it always better you ask this questions during design stage than when the design have been fully done and submitted.
For the materials, if you meant for finishing, that i believe shouldn't be a problem because it can always be substituted.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 5:27pm On Jan 29, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


Deep.

I saw a construction thread of yours. I can only imagine the amount of sweat saliva equity that went into achieving your results with the clean finishing , sharp lines, etc. People pay a lot of premium for supervision to achieve results like that with their homes and sometimes, those premiums are still not enough. You must have spent a lot of man hours micro managing to get your results.

Bright, airy home, lots of windows and light plus the white paint looks good. Congratulations!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 5:36pm On Jan 29, 2022
BrickDevo:

The Bolded is the problem, is the mentality of i don't need it, and it doesn't really matter or it is expensive, in Nigeria interior decoration is a thing of luxury which only the rich can enjoy and few middle class.
when it comes to luxury i don't think it has to do with why, it has to do with can i afford it, the service usually seems fit for who can afford it cos without it your house will still be habitable.

I agree that it is popularly perceived as a luxury but I also know that is not necessarily true, which is why I asked her to sell it to the middle class builder since this thread she’s advertising in does not necessarily cater to just luxury construction. The thread has middle class builders who may be interested in her service.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:45pm On Jan 29, 2022
UC92:

This is the reason why the Architect's services does not end at the design stage. The Architect should be involved in all aspect of the building procurement processes.
It may interest you to know that there are other additional services which the Architect should be engaged to carry out, such as EIA, Post occupancy evaluation etc.

I agree with you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:47pm On Jan 29, 2022
diordaves:


Honestly! That makes two of us. Some are even without rhyme or reason. I just look at some designs and I keep asking myself; what is the STATEMENT the architect is trying to make? The aspects and accent are so busy and all over the place that one is just left bewildered.

Exactly!!! You get the point.

I get that designs are for both function and aesthetics but...

Some are impracticable.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 6:03pm On Jan 29, 2022
MulticolourDeco:


I think this has to do with your mentality sir. Just like some set of people believe a pregnant woman walking at night could give birth to a certain kind of child so do alot of people believe in so many things that isn't adequately correct.

I am a budget interior decorator. In our company Clients determines the budget not us speaking for myself. Our job comes with a detailed understanding of what to expect before we even get paid. It's an agreement between both parties and we always exceed the Client's expectations because that's the beauty of it all .
And I can bet it with you, no matter how well you think you know how to shop you can never achieve what I would achieve given any budget in terms of quality, style, design, creativity, ambiance etc. Don't be deceived by what you think you know. How can you beat a professional that doesn't this for a living.

Interior Decorators are meant to give more for the value of any budget because we deal directly with Importers and merchants who definitely gives us more discounts because of our continued patronages. Atleast that's how it's meant to be. Some of us are direct Importers who imports in bulks and that comes at a more affordable values. They help you achieve you dream Interior just as you want it but doing it much more professionally.


If you employ an Interior Decorator and the services render is lesser than the value of the money given then you as a person hasn't done your assignment well in selecting a professional in handling your interior. You know there are many jobless Nigerian posing themselves as different professionals like makeup artist, models, contractors, real estate professionals etc. So we also have alot of jobless people calling themselves Interior decorator who doesn't know the drills or have the necessary skillsets or passion that come with this profession. And also alot of people want to follow names, I think that also happens all over the world. They want to say so so professional designed my home. If you want such professional influences and sentiments it also comes at a price. If you want a genuine passion influenced, talented and skilled Interior designer to handle your interior we have 100s of us in Nigeria even with international trainings. Please do well to identify one and work with them on your next project.

And moreover alot of people just assume all these things. Have you ever engaged the services of an Interior Decorating Professional and they under delivered?. Or it's just something you have stuck in your head as we all do as Nigerians, jump into conclusions because we think we know it all even without taking time to read or study about such things?.

A lot of people too expect magic when they don't give much because they are dealing with a professional. If you fall into such category you will always be disappointed because it's what you give that you get. You don't expect them to use their money to help in decorating your interior, do you?.


1. I am not a “Sir.” I am a female like you who noticed you were offering a service, pinpointed a common barrier/perception and asked you to elaborate on how you would address that barrier I.e. how you would convince a middle class builder who perceives your service as a luxury.
2. The bolded is really the only response needed to what I posted. I will forgive the other parts because I don’t know what your head space was like when you read my post which, by the way, highlighted my appreciation of the kind of work you; thereby making your response even more unreasonable.
3. English is not my first language and apparently not yours either so I have read my post again and you should too to see how your rude response relates to what I wrote. I thought the intent of my post was clear - give you the opportunity to convince a non luxury builder that you offer a service they should consider paying for.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 6:28pm On Jan 29, 2022
MMotimo:


I agree that it is popularly perceived as a luxury but I also know that is not necessarily true, which is why I asked her to sell it to the middle class builder since this thread she’s advertising in does not necessarily cater to just luxury construction. The thread has middle class builders who may be interested in her service.
you are right, anyone can go for it, it depends on the level, i designed one for someone in this thread and am glad i did, i also strongly feel that can i afford it mentality or affordability is a major factor, and if it becomes so simple just to cater for the middle class, they might actually not engage her services, because they see it as no big deal. only few will pick a space of interest.

Currently am negotiating with a client for a kitchen design, after a brief talk of what it would cost to design the whole building interior, 2 bedroom flat + 2 units of 1 bedroom self-contain upstairs, she decided only her kitchen will be needing the designs at least for now she said,

She categorically stated the cost is much hence her decision.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:30pm On Jan 29, 2022
MMotimo:


I saw a construction thread of yours. I can only imagine the amount of sweat saliva equity that went into achieving your results with the clean finishing , sharp lines, etc. People pay a lot of premium for supervision to achieve results like that with their homes and sometimes, those premiums are still not enough. You must have spent a lot of man hours micro managing to get your results.

Bright, airy home, lots of windows and light plus the white paint looks good. Congratulations!

Thank you Ma. It’s a labor of love and it helps because I live right next door.

I use Baba Latis so I’m sure of screw ups as soon as I leave the site for a second.

It’s sad that I’m already looking at corrections on a brand new build but I’m ahead in terms of cost.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:37pm On Jan 29, 2022
UC92:

This is the reason why the Architect's services does not end at the design stage. The Architect should be involved in all aspect of the building procurement processes.
It may interest you to know that there are other additional services which the Architect should be engaged to carry out, such as EIA, Post occupancy evaluation etc.

I’ve said this before and I’ve been heckled down.

The architect owns the project and everybody else subs under him. On a serious project. At least in the USA.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 6:42pm On Jan 29, 2022
BrickDevo:
yes, at Vava furniture we make it in the factory then we move it to the site.

Wow! Good. You got sample pictures of previous work. And probably cost. Thanks.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 8:04pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:
Sometimes, when I'm sent some designs, I request the Architect to explain how he intends to achieve some aspects including materials to use.

Am I the only one?

Because some of these designs give sleepless nights.
This one is normal.
I was working on a Project on Friday.On the site Plan the distance between the External wall and the main building at the back is 1.03mm.In order to erect your water tank alone,
For a 2000l water tank,the Internal diameter is 1.45mm.i was like how will that work?
That's not all, I noticed more than 5 others mistakes on one drawing alone.

Most Architects considers Aesthetics and not functionality of a building.
Both should always be considered and when you raise the RFI for it ,you will have to go through a lot of hassle for it to be change.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 8:16pm On Jan 29, 2022
mufutau55:


Wow! Good. You got sample pictures of previous work. And probably cost. Thanks.

Hajji M.
i will inquire about it back get back to you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Charisdesigns: 8:39pm On Jan 29, 2022
walexProjects:

This one is normal.
I was working on a Project on Friday.On the site Plan the distance between the External wall and the main building at the back is 1.03mm.In order to erect your water tank alone,
For a 2000l water tank,the Internal diameter is 1.45mm.i was like how will that work?
That's not all, I noticed more than 5 others mistakes on one drawing alone.

Most Architects considers Aesthetics and not functionality of a building.
Both should always be considered and when you raise the RFI for it ,you will have to go through a lot of hassle for it to be change.

This gap has been bridged by BIM (building information modeling).

BIM allows for multidisciplinary collaboration in real-time. All parties have access to all the information relating to a project in its current phase and are able to communicate with all other parties simultaneously via the building information model. The advantages of this process are centered around improved communication and coordination and include early detection or reduced risk of mistakes or discrepancies resulting in less rework, reduced costs and improved quality.

Any architect, structural / mechanical or electrical engineer that has not embraced bim and the numerous advantage it brings is not ready for industry standard practice.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Charisdesigns: 8:48pm On Jan 29, 2022
I cringed when I saw this on one of the site close to mine.

This however is a honest appeal to all M and E guys, this is all shade of wrong and it will affect the structural integrity of the building.

When in doubt, reach out to fellow professionals on the project. On every project site, communication needs to be in sync.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Charisdesigns: 8:50pm On Jan 29, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


I’ve said this before and I’ve been heckled down.

The architect owns the project and everybody else subs under him. On a serious project. At least in the USA.

Architects are actually Oga everybody cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 9:04pm On Jan 29, 2022
Charisdesigns:
I cringed when I saw this on one of the site close to mine.

This however is a honest appeal to all M and E guys, this is all shade of wrong and it will affect the structural integrity of the building.

When in doubt, reach out to fellow professionals on the project. On every project site, communication needs to be in sync.


One of the most Vital Design I employ when doing my job is,
Never to pass a Pipe through a structural member.
If at all you don't have where to locate it,
It can easily be clipped.
The M&E consultant on this Project just doesn't know what he/she is doing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 9:12pm On Jan 29, 2022
Charisdesigns:


This gap has been bridged by BIM (building information modeling).

BIM allows for multidisciplinary collaboration in real-time. All parties have access to all the information relating to a project in its current phase and are able to communicate with all other parties simultaneously via the building information model. The advantages of this process are centered around improved communication and coordination and include early detection or reduced risk of mistakes or discrepancies resulting in less rework, reduced costs and improved quality.

Any architect, structural / mechanical or electrical engineer that has not embraced bim and the numerous advantage it brings is not ready for industry standard practice.

This is absolutely necessary.
I recently got a Project from Ghana,one of the criteria for the Consultant is the Ability to use Revit MEP software.
This enables us to Work effectively and deliver the project as at when due.
BIM is the way forward now.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 9:22pm On Jan 29, 2022
There was never an M&E engineer involved in that project from the start. As a professional you should be able to look as a carcass and tell if it's being handled by professionals or just by the client with a couple of blind bricklayers and foremen.

walexProjects:


One of the most Vital Design I employ when doing my job is,
Never to pass a Pipe through a structural member.
If at all you don't have where to locate it,
It can easily be clipped.
The M&E consultant on this Project just doesn't know what he/she is doing.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 10:00pm On Jan 29, 2022
walexProjects:


This is absolutely necessary.
I recently got a Project from Ghana,one of the criteria for the Consultant is the Ability to use Revit MEP software.
This enables us to Work effectively and deliver the project as at when due.
BIM is the way forward now.
I'm sure you know that bim laptops are very expensive compared to what clients are willing to pay. When clients are ready for bim they will get it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 10:08pm On Jan 29, 2022
walexProjects:

This one is normal.
I was working on a Project on Friday.On the site Plan the distance between the External wall and the main building at the back is 1.03mm.In order to erect your water tank alone,
For a 2000l water tank,the Internal diameter is 1.45mm.i was like how will that work?
That's not all, I noticed more than 5 others mistakes on one drawing alone.

Most Architects considers Aesthetics and not functionality of a building.
Both should always be considered and when you raise the RFI for it ,you will have to go through a lot of hassle for it to be change.
this reminds me, about set back and regulations, please house how do people that purchased half plot do it. Esp in obalende

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 10:15pm On Jan 29, 2022
walexProjects:

This one is normal.
I was working on a Project on Friday.On the site Plan the distance between the External wall and the main building at the back is 1.03mm.In order to erect your water tank alone,
For a 2000l water tank,the Internal diameter is 1.45mm.i was like how will that work?
That's not all, I noticed more than 5 others mistakes on one drawing alone.

Most Architects considers Aesthetics and not functionality of a building.
Both should always be considered and when you raise the RFI for it ,you will have to go through a lot of hassle for it to be change.
A young architect should always have someone who checks his drawings, you should have a mentor, even if it involves buying a wine and visit his office, also work hand in hand with your structural engineer, most times they see what is wrong and notify you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 11:20pm On Jan 29, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Exactly!!! You get the point.

I get that designs are for both function and aesthetics but...

Some are impracticable.

Well, I have seen plans and seen more plans. Sometimes in the middle of some projects, I reach out to my architect for meetings on what he was thinking when they hatched the plans. And the revelations are quite surprising sometimes. Choices of what to do to some designs will always need the input of everyone, architect, owners, structural engineers and contractor. This is the only way ensure that what was drawn matches what gets built.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kaymartins: 12:31am On Jan 30, 2022
Honestly I have been a victim, paid him since September last year. Up till now no product and no refund
kopell:
Wow for kind of person you are that I know. Wrote this? this guy most have hit you hard.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 1:50am On Jan 30, 2022
Hello everyone, do submersible pump of any HP and product gets rusty inside the boreholes after a while or it's just fallacy, cuz if it does I better go for the usual surface pump
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by neduboo(m): 5:41am On Jan 30, 2022
amosblisz:
Hello everyone, do submersible pump of any HP and product gets rusty inside the boreholes after a while or it's just fallacy, cuz if it does I better go for the usual surface pump

There's no big deal about a submersible pump. They work well. Even that of .5hp provided the reservoir depth isn't too deep.

Surface pump is old fashioned.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 7:27am On Jan 30, 2022
dangoteinlaw:
I'm sure you know that bim laptops are very expensive compared to what clients are willing to pay. When clients are ready for bim they will get it.

Well you're correct.
Clients won't have choices like they have before.
Because BIM is taking over the IIndustry.
Just like we have Drawing board and Pencil before AutoCAD came in.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 7:38am On Jan 30, 2022
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