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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:38pm On Jan 29, 2022
jihday:
for number 1 you are correct but for number 2 you are not correct. You mean if salah is ready to leave Liverpool today, nobody will pay close to 100mill for him?

Osimhen is not Salah bro

He is not at that level yet. It remains to be seen if he will be at that level

But fine, if Juve or Bayern, Barca, Man City come for Osimhen, na celebration be that

I just stated an opinion even though far fetched. I am not in anyway wishing him evil

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 11:40pm On Jan 29, 2022
PetroDolla2020:
You are obviously a novice in football. What makes your current team better than Ghana?

Just relax. March will soon come and we’ll settle it on the field. I don’t know why you Nigerians like to argue unnecessarily grin all the talk upanddown will not determine the outcome of the match. So why waste your time on needless arguments?

If you nigerians want to boast upanddown, we’ll that is your business. grin

By the way, don’t even bring Salihu matter into the black stars issue,okay? Do you know why Salihu is said to be not interested in playing for Ghana? There are many thousands of players out there who will feel honored to put on the Black Star jersey any day cool

man for man Nigeria has a better team/player than your Ghanaian side, am better ranked I have much better outing in the ongoing afcon that you and come march your Ghanaian national team will be the first warm up match for Nigeria en route to Qatar grin grin grin Charlie give all your support to your sinor brother Nigeria come December at the world cup because am sure you will be watching Nigeria play our first match with some banku in your hand grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:43pm On Jan 29, 2022
darkelf:


Let the gates of tears open

And cry me blood. I need your blood-filled tears

grin grin grin
Roll in the mud. It's your place.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:43pm On Jan 29, 2022
darkelf:


Osimhen is not Salah bro

He is not at that level yet. It remains to be seen if he will be at that level

But fine, if Juve or Bayern, Barca, Man City come for Osimhen, na celebration be that

I just stated an opinion even though far fetched. I am not in anyway wishing him evil
you said African player now you talking about level, if you had mentioned level I for even no argue. There have been loads of African players who ended up playing for big clubs so your assertion is wrong, but I agree that Napoli owner will make it a bit difficult
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jan 29, 2022
Mujtahida:

I don't understand how issues are analysed here. Under Rohr we played drab football, anywhere-belleface football and lost to CAR and other low ranking teams.

Under Eguavoen, in just 3 weeks, we played just the normal Nigerian football. Nothing spectacular about it yet after we lost, the narrative - and the mockery from zuchyblink - is that we lost because we played champagne ghen ghen football but you overlook the fact that the champaign football took us to the 2nd round.

That match against Tunisia is the ugliest football we played at the AFCON. It was the most unchampagne like football we played at this Afcon. It was as if the team was channeling it inner Rohr spirit. Rachety, tetchy, broken football.

I know we lost but there's a promise in this team if we do not let that defeat to define this moment. Will Eguavoen learn nothing like Rohr learnt nothing if he stays five years on the job?
Two years contract won't be bad.

Eguavon was taken to the cleaners too easily by the Tunisian team. It was glaring that the wings were not working.

But then like you said, he barely had time to prepare for the AFCON and there honestly has not been enough games to assess him with.

The problem is that if he continues and qualifies us for the world cup, it would be a risk because we don't have enough info on his technical capability based on the few games. We only know that he can set the team up to play adventorous football.

To be honest I would rather we draft in Peseiro after Egu qualifies us. At least Peseiro is a proven coach with some pedigree. That way we would be reducing the risk of having an unassessed coach lead us to the world cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:44pm On Jan 29, 2022
Mujtahida:

Roll in the mud. It's your place.

Cry some more

grin grin grin

Fake scholar
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:45pm On Jan 29, 2022
jihday:
you said African player now you talking about level, if you had mentioned level I for even no argue. There have been loads of African players who ended up playing for big clubs so your assertion is wrong, but I agree that Napoli owner will make it a bit difficult

Now you understand my point

They haven't even finished paying his transfer fee

I swear, Osimhen asking price may reach 160m

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:45pm On Jan 29, 2022
On d issue of osimhen commanding a 100million transfer fee or not,at d moment it's not possible,judging by his current output..not taking away d injury issues he faced though.

Only few players can get 100million and above transfer fee at d moment..dt vhlalovic abi wetin b d guy name, dts really in form was sold 4 71million euros or so smiley
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:47pm On Jan 29, 2022
daveP:
Ezenwa oozes better confidence than those two. Especially defending CKs.


Oh, some will say his time is up.


Na only us dey give timeframe for who and who suppose come rep team. grin
where does he play these days?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:49pm On Jan 29, 2022
Beloved03:


Eguavon was taken to the cleaners too easily by the Tunisian team. It was glaring that the wings were not working.

But then like you said, he barely had time to prepare for the AFCON and there honestly has not been enough games to assess him with.

The problem is that if he continues and qualifies us for the world cup, it would be a risk because we don't have enough info on his technical capability based on the few games. We only know that he can set the team up to play adventorous football.

To be honest I would rather we draft in Peseiro after Egu qualifies us. At least Peseiro is a proven coach with some pedigree. That way we would be reducing the risk of having an unassessed coach lead us to the world cup.
I don't care about Eguavoen leading us or Peseiro even though my preference is Eguavoen.

We lost, diagnosis of the cause of our loss is not because we played ghen ghen football. That's just my simple point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:52pm On Jan 29, 2022
nelszx:

Both wingers were rightly cancelled in the game. 2 players covering the winger then another player running behind making 3 players marking both wingers at every occasion.

The difference in that game would have been utilizing the midfield and not reliant on the wingers. We lost that game because we do not have any plan in the game aside the wing play
was Chuks actually canceled? I think he wasn’t just good enough, shouldn’t have started the game IMO

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:55pm On Jan 29, 2022
Papi85:
I never told you I am exonerating maduka from any blame but if you are being honest with your self eguavoen was outclassed tactically by the Tunisians hoooha

Leave sentiment and absorb facts and truth. Our style of play right from the group stage to meeting the Tunisians was too predictable and I made mention here before the 2nd round game that a good tactical dreaded side will deal with eguavoen team mercilessly which came to past against the cartage eagles

Football is not only based on passing and dribbles, man to man we were better than the Tunisians but tactically there were levels miles ahead of us in the game
Mercilessly with 1-0? Omo, defeat is bad

In 98, Denmark beat us 4-1. That was a merciless beating and tutoring.

But this Tunisian team, at a certain level feels like a fluke victory to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:58pm On Jan 29, 2022
elyte89:
On d issue of osimhen commanding a 100million transfer fee or not,at d moment it's not possible,judging by his current output..not taking away d injury issues he faced though.

Only few players can get 100million and above transfer fee at d moment..dt vhlalovic abi wetin b d guy name, dts really in form was sold 4 71million euros or so smiley
it’s not possible for now but he has the potential and hopefully he’ll build on it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:00am On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:

I don't care about Eguavoen leading us or Peseiro even though my preference is Eguavoen.

We lost, diagnosis of the cause of our loss is not because we played ghen ghen football. That's just my simple point.
don’t know why people love to act like Iwobi that was sent in to remedy the situation wasn’t sent off barely 5min after coming in. I think if that red didn’t happen we would have gotten something from the game

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:01am On Jan 30, 2022
Danielnino00:


Tunisia themselves looked clueless throughout the match..The only thing they did better was to neutralize Simon and Chukwueze wing.. How many times did they get into our own box before that goal?
Maduka cost us the game as much as Eguavon did... Admit it..
He doesn't deserve the number one shirt by any means whatsoever...
At this point,I'd pick Akepyi ahead of him..
I'm surprised at his analysis. Said Tunisia tactically outclassed us. Maybe Tunisia outwitted us but certainly we were not outclassed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:04am On Jan 30, 2022
jihday:
don’t know why people love to act like Iwobi that was sent in to remedy the situation wasn’t sent off barely 5min after coming in. I think if that red didn’t happen we would have gotten something from the game
It was the day we were to lose. There are days like that.

We were slow, ponderous and listless in the first half. That was when we lost that match.

Tunisia on the other hand, wanted to drag that match to penalties. Before that shot that led to the goal, they had no shot on target. How then did they tactically outclass us?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 12:04am On Jan 30, 2022
darkelf:


Thanks for asking

Number 1 - Napoli's asking price would be at leaset 100m

Number 2 : Teams in Europe tend to shy away from buying African players for such ridiculous amount

Number 3: Kalidou Koulibaly has been a World class Defender for many years now and hasn't left Napoli. Why? See Number 1 and Number 2
hmmm, well, do you know something, I actually thought about something recently, I was reading transfer rumors the other day and I saw Jonathan David, the guy Lille bought as replacement for osihmen and was linked to a few top clubs, I already seen his football and comparably osihmen trumps him, however he is highly rated by the media and I know cuz he’s Canadian, Anyways.

1-Definitely Napoli will ask above 100 million

Although, your number 2 assertion is not wrong, but I believe consistent top class performance from him which I expect barring any “mumu” injury crisis will make at least EPL clubs to grab him. Added the advantage of insigne and Mertens imminent departures, the mantle of scoring goals automatically fall on him. If na goal, any type, leg, head, shot, 1 on 1 I trust osihmen.

I might also add the fact that, generally, African strikers tend to blow in Europe than any other departments. Nobody will ignore a 23-25 year old Tall, clinical, powerful and fast goal scorer. Etoo, drogba are legends.

About koulibaly, well I don’t know why the guy no comot for there since, maybe age factor, who gonna pay 100 mill for a 29 year old black man from Senegal, but the guy better pass maguire 80 million….

I hope osihmen cross over to the EPL in a season or two ASAP, he can comfortably cut it at west ham, Everton, Aston villa etc even at this erratic form, not to talk of top form. Kindly check Osihmen’s form and movement pre injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:06am On Jan 30, 2022
darkelf:


Cry some more

grin grin grin

Fake scholar

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:08am On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:

It was the day we were to lose. There are days like that.

We were slow, ponderous and listless in the first half. That was when we lost that match.

Tunisia on the other hand, wanted to drag that match to penalties. Before that shot that led to the goal, they had no shot on target. How then did they tactically outclass us?
I agree we started the game badly, the people criticizing the coach for not making halftime sub are being unfair. At halftime he surely gave team talk and must have thought ‘let me see how they’ll react to it’ before taking further actions. We were just unlucky that day
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:17am On Jan 30, 2022
jihday:
I agree we started the game badly, the people criticizing the coach for not making halftime sub are being unfair. At halftime he surely gave team talk and must have thought ‘let me see how they’ll react to it’ before taking further actions. We were just unlucky that day
I'm only thinking that would Eguavoen stagnate like Rohr if he's given 5 years on the job?

I feel two years should be given to him. Eguavoen's error is that he wants the team to play like the 94 team. Shows his thinking is stuck in the past.
Yes our strength has always been the wings but I remember saying that we should develop other strengths so that we don't become a one pony trick team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 12:25am On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:

Mercilessly with 1-0? Omo, defeat is bad

In 98, Denmark beat us 4-1. That was a merciless beating and tutoring.

But this Tunisian team, at a certain level feels like a fluke victory to me.

Please leave these guys to their delusion! There is no way you can convince a pharaoh to listen to wisdom.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 12:33am On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:

I'm only thinking that would Eguavoen stagnate like Rohr if he's given 5 years on the job?

I feel two years should be given to him. Eguavoen's error is that he wants the team to play like the 94 team. Shows his thinking is stuck in the past.
Yes our strength has always been the wings but I remember saying that we should develop other strengths so that we don't become a one pony trick team.

All the great sides utilize wing play. It's normal in football. It's not as if the 94 team invented it. Counter attacking football has bested the best of teams and managers. Without the red card and lack of quality upfront we would have won. Now Oshimen and Dennis will be back why hire a man selling groceries in Portugal for the past 2 years when you have a man that understands the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:45am On Jan 30, 2022
You can say that about any team as a matter of fact. Even if C.A.R dey play Germany grin
Joezinho:



This is exactly the same way most of us saw the game with the Tunisians and they beat us. Football isn't mathematics bros. If football is how you see it then I don't think the Egyptians would be in the QFs right now.

This tunisia game still hurts. Maybe our failure to qualify for WC 2006 and ANC 2015 are worse, but this is the worst failure in a tournament proper...


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:54am On Jan 30, 2022
We lost that game because Tunisia resorted to capitalizing on only where they saw a gap. Our defenders were on task but they were not playing compact. So the coach instructed to shoot wherever there is a gap. Unfortunately we had a keeper not tested enough to be ready for that surprise. The Tunisian's were LUCKY because as soon as they switched to that tactics, it payed off immediately. We were a goal down before we could respond to a switch in their play. On the hand what Eguavoen had in the store for them would have worked but for the unfortunate incident of Iwobi. Overall, I would say that we missed our most lethal strikers. Osimhen would have proved a great threat from the middle considering his work rate. It would have been hard for any team to handle his threat as well as what Simon brings from the wings. What SE needs now is dynamism. If we can bring that to full force we are good to go even to the WC. Like I said before I like Eguavoen's pressing phylosophy, bring on Amuneke to give you the needed mix. You must also study your opponent and not rely solely on your pattern of play.

Mujtahida:

I'm only thinking that would Eguavoen stagnate like Rohr if he's given 5 years on the job?

I feel two years should be given to him. Eguavoen's error is that he wants the team to play like the 94 team. Shows his thinking is stuck in the past.
Yes our strength has always been the wings but I remember saying that we should develop other strengths so that we don't become a one pony trick team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:00am On Jan 30, 2022
I hope Peseiro is not coming.

but we are thinking on similar lines. The one thing I would like to add is if you rely only on your strengths as a team, that is playing arrogance. That strategy cannot win tournaments. You must have the right mix when deciding how to approach again -- that is studying the opponents thoroughly as well

fabyom:
All the great sides utilize wing play. It's normal in football. It's not as if the 94 team invented it. Counter attacking football has bested the best of teams and managers. Without the red card and lack of quality upfront we would have won. Now Oshimen and Dennis will be back why hire a man selling groceries in Portugal for the past 2 years when you have a man that understands the game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 1:15am On Jan 30, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
yes we are better than you guy's we have a team infact we are having a full Squad come march to play a depleted Ghanaian national team that your player's aren't will to honour a national team call or you think we don't know how salisu rubbished one of your administrator that how messed up you guys are and you will never see us better than you guy's till the eagles come to Accra wink
I'm surprised, why would he reject the opportunity to play for Ghana? It's not like he's eligible to play for another country, unless he doesn't want to play international football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 2:53am On Jan 30, 2022
I never though I would ever say this, but the smartest decision Arsenal can make right now is to sign Paul Onuachu, for a multitude of reasons.

1) Has every quality Vlahovic they were chasing for so long has, just less sleek. He has the height and strength, the hold up play, the link up with midfield, decent pace, excellent finishing. Only difference is Vlahovic carries the ball a bit better and is more fluid in his movement.

2) Cheap. Arsenal will get him for 25m max.

3) Temporary solution. It will be almost impossible to sign any big name striker in January (Vlahovic was a special case, he wanted to leave). Auba and Nketiah are out, Laca is struggling with fitness. Arsenal need a striker now, else their season is as good as done. Isak, David, Osimhen and co. can't leave their clubs fighting for UCL in January. Solution: Sign a cheap but proven goalscorer who is still not too old and can deputize when the real big boy comes in.

4) He's an Arsenal fan.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 2:54am On Jan 30, 2022
Karlovych:
I'm surprised, why would he reject the opportunity to play for Ghana? It's not like he's eligible to play for another country, unless he doesn't want to play international football.

Why do players with caps reject to play for their National teams or retire from international football?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:36am On Jan 30, 2022
Mujtahida:

I'm surprised at his analysis. Said Tunisia tactically outclassed us. Maybe Tunisia outwitted us but certainly we were not outclassed

If Tunisa really tactically outclassed us, they would have run us to the ground after that red card cus they clearly had an advantage... But it wasn't so..We played better than them after that..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:39am On Jan 30, 2022
Beloved03:


And when Akpeyi commits another blunder against a Mahrez-Algerian last minute free kick, you will switch back to Okoye as your pick right?

Una never Sabi wetin una want. grin grin grin

I've never preferred Okoye as first choice goalkeeper.. Akepyi and Okoye clearly have the same confidence issue when they put on the GWG, unlike at their clubsides...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:42am On Jan 30, 2022
Beloved03:


Eguavon was taken to the cleaners too easily by the Tunisian team. It was glaring that the wings were not working.

But then like you said, he barely had time to prepare for the AFCON and there honestly has not been enough games to assess him with.

The problem is that if he continues and qualifies us for the world cup, it would be a risk because we don't have enough info on his technical capability based on the few games. We only know that he can set the team up to play adventorous football.

To be honest I would rather we draft in Peseiro after Egu qualifies us. At least Peseiro is a proven coach with some pedigree. That way we would be reducing the risk of having an unassessed coach lead us to the world cup.

This is so wrong... If Eguavon should continue and qualify us for the world cup, there's enough game for him to play before the tournament proper for us to assess his tactical capabilities.. There's at least 3 or 4 international break before the world cup where we will play AFCONQ and friendlies...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 4:59am On Jan 30, 2022
Starboytwo:
hmmm, well, do you know something, I actually thought about something recently, I was reading transfer rumors the other day and I saw Jonathan David, the guy Lille bought as replacement for osihmen and was linked to a few top clubs, I already seen his football and comparably osihmen trumps him, however he is highly rated by the media and I know cuz he’s Canadian, Anyways.

1-Definitely Napoli will ask above 100 million

Although, your number 2 assertion is not wrong, but I believe consistent top class performance from him which I expect barring any “mumu” injury crisis will make at least EPL clubs to grab him. Added the advantage of insigne and Mertens imminent departures, the mantle of scoring goals automatically fall on him. If na goal, any type, leg, head, shot, 1 on 1 I trust osihmen.

I might also add the fact that, generally, African strikers tend to blow in Europe than any other departments. Nobody will ignore a 23-25 year old Tall, clinical, powerful and fast goal scorer. Etoo, drogba are legends.

About koulibaly, well I don’t know why the guy no comot for there since, maybe age factor, who gonna pay 100 mill for a 29 year old black man from Senegal, but the guy better pass maguire 80 million….

I hope osihmen cross over to the EPL in a season or two ASAP, he can comfortably cut it at west ham, Everton, Aston villa etc even at this erratic form, not to talk of top form. Kindly check Osihmen’s form and movement pre injury.

Out of curiosity, what really makes you think Osimhen is better than Jonathan David? He replaced Osimhen in Lille and helped them win Ligue 1 last season. Currently he is the top goal scorer in the French league with 13 goals half way through the season. The same number of goals Osimhen scored the season he was sold. What exactly sets Osimhen apart from him?
I think we over estimate our players so much to the detriment of the competition, it's almost disrespectful at times.

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