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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 7:51am On Jan 30, 2022
spyder880:


Well, I have seen plans and seen more plans. Sometimes in the middle of some projects, I reach out to my architect for meetings on what he was thinking when they hatched the plans. And the revelations are quite surprising sometimes. Choices of what to do to some designs will always need the input of everyone, architect, owners, structural engineers and contractor. This is the only way ensure that what was drawn matches what gets built.
Architecture is not practiced in isolation. It is unfortunate that stakeholders do not pay attention to designs, It amuses me when some so called "Architects" brag about delivering a design project in 48hours, It doesn't work that way.

Synergy is of essence in design projects, virtual and physical meetings should be held for validation at every design stage. In schools of Architecture, juries are held before any design can be certified fit, same should apply to real life project.
To clients, don't agree to designs done and submitted within 48hrs, there are chances that lots of details were overlooked or it was just all copy and paste.

It is about time we draw a line between Quacks, Architects and Qualified Architects

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 8:04am On Jan 30, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abuiltech(m): 8:08am On Jan 30, 2022
megacontrol:
Hello,

Found this post while also searching for linear floor drains to purchase.

Did you eventually buy from here or offline?
Pls point me to who/where you got from.

Thanks

Anyone that can supply Linear floor drain should pls signify. Grey/Matt color.




I bought them offline, thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MulticolourDeco(f): 9:29am On Jan 30, 2022
MMotimo:


1. I am not a “Sir.” I am a female like you who noticed you were offering a service, pinpointed a common barrier/perception and asked you to elaborate on how you would address that barrier I.e. how you would convince a middle class builder who perceives your service as a luxury.
2. The bolded is really the only response needed to what I posted. I will forgive the other parts because I don’t know what your head space was like when you read my post which, by the way, highlighted my appreciation of the kind of work you; thereby making your response even more unreasonable.
3. English is not my first language and apparently not yours either so I have read my post again and you should too to see how your rude response relates to what I wrote. I thought the intent of my post was clear - give you the opportunity to convince a non luxury builder that you offer a service they should consider paying for.



Madam, I don't think I missed your point. I think you are not listening. There was no atom of rudeness in my reply. You don't like honesty too much I presume. I was just being honest. I am not a psychologist, I cannot take this believes off your head. I am not trained to do that. Interior Design or Decoration isn't meant for everyone to be honest its not. Just because I have phobia for rain doesn't mean I go about discouraging people from walking in it. Don't force your believes down people's throat. Your believe is it's a luxurious service and middle class cannot afford it but let me rephrase the sentence for you. You meant, "it's luxurious, I am a middle class woman and I cannot afford it because in my head I believe it's an expensive service". Stay in your limits.

I see a lot of middle class people engaging the services of a professional Interior Decorator and they are happy. If you think it's only well to do people that engages the services of an interior decorator then you are wrong. I have designed homes for young adults in their early 20s. I think it's just a believe system. They just know their budget limits. I cannot change your mind set just because I post on this platform. You have to do that for your self. I have been given a budget of one million five hundred thousand naira to design a home for some young couple. A two bedroom apartment and I delivered. A nairalander has contacted me to help modify his living room with a budget of seven hundred thousand naira before. And we delivered Beautifully.
And I have taken up projects in their tens of millions. I believe you need to speak for yourself in this context and stop assuming.

Your Question- how you would convince a middle class builder who perceives your service as a luxury.

My Response- Speaking for all Interior Decorator and Designers. I am not here to convince any body that already perceives our services as luxury. They have to see reasons themselves. We only pray for Clients that sees values in the services we render. Because for someone that has already made up their minds on a believe it's so hard for them to have a change of heart. Except they want that fixed by themselves and make up their mind to. That's not an Interior Designers problem. It's your own problem to deal with. I am here for the people that appreciates the God's given talents and abilities in Designers and the beauty they create and would love to partner with them for their Interior needs, requirements and expectations.

Your Question again- how you would convince a middle class builder who perceives your service as a luxury.

My Response (2)- it's all about your mentality Madam if I must say.
if you know you cannot afford the services of an Interior Professional or you are not convinced about it, please do not force it. Do it yourself, do all you need to do by yourself to make your interior beautiful. If you could deem the service as luxurious then you don't know what it's all about in the first place. You cannot value it. You don't know much about it so It's not for you. If you have a problem with it then leave it. Don't come here discouraging people that genuinely are in need of a professional and can afford this services. Eni ti o ba mo iyi Wura ni a hun ta a fun. It's a person that knows the value of Gold that it's sold to. Alot of people think it's luxury where as others think it's an investment. Believe it or not it's a solution providing service. It's not a cheap service if you are looking for cheap but it can be made affordable. Everything that has to do with this service is quality and of value. And we both know quality isn't cheap. Obe to dun, owo lo pa. Soup wey sweet na money kill am.

You wrote "I will forgive the other parts because I don’t know what your head space was like when you read my post". Don't you think you are the one being rude?. You don't insult people to make a point. You don't need a professional, you can always go to the market and buy what you you can afford. It's not a service for everyone. It's for the right kind of people that understands it's advantages. Definitely not a cheap service but it's affordable.

You wrote- English is not my first language and apparently not yours either so I have read my post again and you should too to see how your rude response relates to what I wrote. I thought the intent of my post was clear - give you the opportunity to convince a non luxury builder that you offer a service they should consider paying for.

My response- First, who told you I was here to speak English. I am here to pass a message across. As long as it can be understood then my purpose has been met. Why are you making it like it's a competitive essay and trying to gain sympathy likes by calling me rude. I am not competing with you. I do not have to reply to your question the way you want it answered in your own head. I speak for myself and the way I feel it's best. Infact, I don't even know you madam so I have no resentment against you but my resentment is against you trying to ridicule my Profession by tagging it somewhat. I wouldn't take that. Imagine this I am a woman like yourself statement. And enough about my use of words. I am a professional Interior decorator not an English scoler.

Secondly, it's not a service to consider. You have to want it. If you are not a non luxury builder. I don't think you might be happy with what ever any Decorator would designs for you because you will definitely count your cost. I would advice you go online and read alittle about what you are trying to achieve and fix your interior yourself. Like someone on this platform wrote, "Professionals are for the Elite". And I modify it to, "Professionals isn't for everyone". Have a good day!.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 9:51am On Jan 30, 2022
UC92:

Architecture is not practiced in isolation. It is unfortunate that stakeholders do not pay attention to designs, It amuses me when some so called "Architects" brag about delivering a design project in 48hours, It doesn't work that way.

Synergy is of essence in design projects, virtual and physical meetings should be held for validation at every design stage. In schools of Architecture, juries are held before any design can be certified fit, same should apply to real life project.
To clients, don't agree to designs done and submitted within 48hrs, there are chances that lots of details were overlooked or it was just all copy and paste.

It is about time we draw a line between Quacks, Architects and Qualified Architects
but when it's time to bargaining price you don't draw the line on quacks. You want an architect you paid 50k to spend 3weeks on your designs because that your 50k will make him somebody right? Maybe they can come to your site and become your bricklayer too.
Some ppl are not just big enough to contract an architect they are just overreaching. Professionals are for the elite. Your 100k will not get you that quality job 300k will get someone else. A bitch on the forum once propose to pay 50k for a complete drawing plus 3d, now I'm sure when she finally gets a quack to do it at that price and something goes wrong her mouth will be running sharp too that architects don't know their jobs.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MulticolourDeco(f): 10:03am On Jan 30, 2022
UC92:

Architecture is not practiced in isolation. It is unfortunate that stakeholders do not pay attention to designs, It amuses me when some so called "Architects" brag about delivering a design project in 48hours, It doesn't work that way.

Synergy is of essence in design projects, virtual and physical meetings should be held for validation at every design stage. In schools of Architecture, juries are held before any design can be certified fit, same should apply to real life project.
To clients, don't agree to designs done and submitted within 48hrs, there are chances that lots of details were overlooked or it was just all copy and paste.

It is about time we draw a line between Quacks, Architects and Qualified Architects

Do you do Interior Design Architecture?. Kindly get in touch if you do.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 10:29am On Jan 30, 2022
MulticolourDeco:


Do you do Interior Design Architecture?. Kindly get in touch if you do.
No, I am not into interior design Architecture.
Thank you and happy Sunday ma.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by luvablesam(m): 10:34am On Jan 30, 2022
Hi, I need to know if there is any paint that is resistant to stains and can be used to paint a kitchen in place of wall tiles or will gloss work?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by UC92: 10:40am On Jan 30, 2022
dangoteinlaw:
but when it's time to bargaining price you don't draw the line on quacks. You want an architect you paid 50k to spend 3weeks on your designs because that your 50k will make him somebody right? Maybe they can come to your site and become your bricklayer too.
Some ppl are not just big enough to contract an architect they are just overreaching. Professionals are for the elite. Your 100k will not get you that quality job 300k will get someone else. A bitch on the forum once propose to pay 50k for a complete drawing plus 3d, now I'm sure when she finally gets a quack to do it at that price and something goes wrong her mouth will be running sharp too that architects don't know their jobs.
Lol.
Your points are valid.
Your last paragraph is actually the reason why I said it is time to distinguish between Quacks and Architects.

You don't get design of just 8sheets of paper and you are bold to say that you commissioned an Architect, there are levels to these things.

If you are an Architectural technologist, graduate, qualified or a registered Architect, you don't need to be told to walk away when such offers come your way.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 10:41am On Jan 30, 2022
BiigTee:
. Shey someone said vibration is normal.. . Even bridges vibrate.. Smh..
Vibration due to expansion for the bridge, where is the decking expanding to in this case?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:42am On Jan 30, 2022
Interior finishings of this contemporary 6bedrooms duplex begins

Pop ceiling ; we are using combination of pop cement and one of the best pop board here “ KNAUF” 12mm thickness
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:43am On Jan 30, 2022
Some adopted designs

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:47am On Jan 30, 2022
Born2conquer:

Vibration due to expansion for the bridge, where is the decking expanding to in this case?

@ Gbadexy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 10:57am On Jan 30, 2022
MMotimo:


1. I am not a “Sir.” I am a female like you who noticed you were offering a service, pinpointed a common barrier/perception and asked you to elaborate on how you would address that barrier I.e. how you would convince a middle class builder who perceives your service as a luxury.
2. The bolded is really the only response needed to what I posted. I will forgive the other parts because I don’t know what your head space was like when you read my post which, by the way, highlighted my appreciation of the kind of work you; thereby making your response even more unreasonable.
3. English is not my first language and apparently not yours either so I have read my post again and you should too to see how your rude response relates to what I wrote. I thought the intent of my post was clear - give you the opportunity to convince a non luxury builder that you offer a service they should consider paying for.


Actually, your question would have been a way for her to promote herself.

She probably took the question as an attack.

"How would you convince the middle class that hiring interior decorator is not a luxury"

Her response could have convinced other kobo kobo builders to start "factoring" in interior decors to their budget.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 11:03am On Jan 30, 2022
rotecch77:
Interior finishings of this contemporary 6bedrooms duplex begins

Pop ceiling ; we are using combination of pop cement and one of the best pop board here “ KNAUF” 12mm thickness
———-
Keep us updated on the build Chief
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 12:11pm On Jan 30, 2022
rotecch77:
Interior finishings of this contemporary 6bedrooms duplex begins

Pop ceiling ; we are using combination of pop cement and one of the best pop board here “ KNAUF” 12mm thickness
———-
i think it is called pop false ceiling
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 12:14pm On Jan 30, 2022
rotecch77:
Some adopted designs
MMotimo ma you see what am saying, here is an example of why the middle class will think that interior design is not a big deal.
rotecch77 no pun intented
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 12:16pm On Jan 30, 2022
Born2conquer:

Vibration due to expansion for the bridge, where is the decking expanding to in this case?
Steel will surely expand and contract under different weather conditions, but the expansion of reinforcement rods are negligible and will never result to cracks and bulging.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 12:20pm On Jan 30, 2022
megacontrol:
Hello,

Found this post while also searching for linear floor drains to purchase.

Did you eventually buy from here or offline?
Pls point me to who/where you got from.

Thanks

Anyone that can supply Linear floor drain should pls signify. Grey/Matt color.



You can not get it orile. You can only get it Cambieli
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dubemcapital1(m): 12:32pm On Jan 30, 2022
UC92:

Architecture is not practiced in isolation. It is unfortunate that stakeholders do not pay attention to designs, It amuses me when some so called "Architects" brag about delivering a design project in 48hours, It doesn't work that way.

Synergy is of essence in design projects, virtual and physical meetings should be held for validation at every design stage. In schools of Architecture, juries are held before any design can be certified fit, same should apply to real life project.
To clients, don't agree to designs done and submitted within 48hrs, there are chances that lots of details were overlooked or it was just all copy and paste.

It is about time we draw a line between Quacks, Architects and Qualified Architects

A civil engineer should be able to read and understand every details communicated by the architect, it's part of the training we received.

For some archtects that just want to make some details questionable, a civil engineer also have the capacity to ratify and implement correctly and professionally too.

Yes, I know no one knows it all but we aught to know very well our job and be careful when serving all manner of people.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 12:45pm On Jan 30, 2022
Born2conquer:

Keep us updated on the build Chief
I will surely do that.
Although this is main thread for the reject

https://www.nairaland.com/3092553/construction-6bd-contemporary-duplex-2bd
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 1:03pm On Jan 30, 2022
Thanks baba.
Checked online and found a company by that name based in Palmgroove, called and the dude said none in stock.

Asked if any timeline and he said none.

Will send someone to look in Orile.

Still looking for linear floor drains for tiling works in the bathroom.

topsy23:


You can not get it orile. You can only get it Cambieli
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 1:11pm On Jan 30, 2022
megacontrol:
Thanks baba.
Checked online and found a company by that name based in Palmgroove, called and the dude said none in stock.

Asked if any timeline and he said none.

Will send someone to look in Orile.

Still looking for linear floor drains for tiling works in the bathroom.


I thought you have got it
I have it for sales in my plumbing store …brass, stainless and plastic
Price range , 10-18k

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 1:24pm On Jan 30, 2022
Born2conquer:

Keep us updated on the build Chief

More so we are using this type of laser cut for the verander and stair way of this project

45k per liner meter

This is just simple pics
I will post my when done, fabrication about to start

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 2:28pm On Jan 30, 2022
UC92:

Architecture is not practiced in isolation. It is unfortunate that stakeholders do not pay attention to designs, It amuses me when some so called "Architects" brag about delivering a design project in 48hours, It doesn't work that way.

Synergy is of essence in design projects, virtual and physical meetings should be held for validation at every design stage. In schools of Architecture, juries are held before any design can be certified fit, same should apply to real life project.
To clients, don't agree to designs done and submitted within 48hrs, there are chances that lots of details were overlooked or it was just all copy and paste.

It is about time we draw a line between Quacks, Architects and Qualified Architects
Good one
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by uncleteeh(m): 2:29pm On Jan 30, 2022
dangoteinlaw:
but when it's time to bargaining price you don't draw the line on quacks. You want an architect you paid 50k to spend 3weeks on your designs because that your 50k will make him somebody right? Maybe they can come to your site and become your bricklayer too.
Some ppl are not just big enough to contract an architect they are just overreaching. Professionals are for the elite. Your 100k will not get you that quality job 300k will get someone else. A bitch on the forum once propose to pay 50k for a complete drawing plus 3d, now I'm sure when she finally gets a quack to do it at that price and something goes wrong her mouth will be running sharp too that architects don't know their jobs.
Hmm, well said, you have a point here too.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 2:57pm On Jan 30, 2022
spyder880:


@ Gbadexy
Yes chief Spyder.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 3:54pm On Jan 30, 2022
luvablesam:
Hi, I need to know if there is any paint that is resistant to stains and can be used to paint a kitchen in place of wall tiles or will gloss work?

@ Gbadexy, this is the post I had meant to quote you on.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dapotemi: 4:06pm On Jan 30, 2022
Back to Lagos again and now it's time to do Windows/doors in my kobokobo projects, apologies to baba Egun...got a couple of quote from people around but I'll really like to give someone here, as another of my own support to this thread..

5 by 4 = 2
4 by 4 = 3
3 by 3 = 3
2 by 2 = 3
Toilet door = 3
Casement/net/bulglary/reflective glass And sliding/bulglary/net/reflective glass.

ALUMINIUM door
4 FT = 3
I have not decided on the number for the 3 FT door yet...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 4:14pm On Jan 30, 2022
walexProjects:

This one is normal.
I was working on a Project on Friday.On the site Plan the distance between the External wall and the main building at the back is 1.03mm.In order to erect your water tank alone,
For a 2000l water tank,the Internal diameter is 1.45mm.i was like how will that work?
That's not all, I noticed more than 5 others mistakes on one drawing alone.

Most Architects considers Aesthetics and not functionality of a building.
Both should always be considered and when you raise the RFI for it ,you will have to go through a lot of hassle for it to be change.

This happens alot too..

Because some archis without adequate experience do not use the angles" of the land in their design.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:47pm On Jan 30, 2022
Happy Sunday everyone

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