Dsalvo:


https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/aliko-dangotes-auto-company-dangote-peugeot-automobile-begins-assembly-in-nigeria/n1534v2

Of all companies to manufacture their product its a French company? The French must not be allowed to gain a foothold in Nigeria.

France is notorious for causing wars wherever they as well as impoverishment African States to achieve their objectives...

Good News, things like these will generate employment. Federal Government should ban importation of NEW VEHICLES that are not assembled in Nigeria for Federal, State and Local Governments/ parastatals.

mmsen:


Why do you take issue with Innoson and not the people importing damaged, used vehicles into Nigeria?

The same reason innoson car is costly

joshjc:
most security agencies and other arms of government purchase vehicles from innoson,I think with the exception of the national assembly

All goverment projects are constructed using dangote cement with the exception of none

jrusky:


I think I have read on several occasion that Fed govt purchased vehicles from Innoson.

And I think innoson should try to cut cost of his vehicles at least for average Nigerians to be able to purchase them. Both company are welcome and we want more of it.

Exactly since they are home brands

BigBashiru:


Of all companies to manufacture their product its a French company? The French must not be allowed to gain a foothold in Nigeria.

France is notorious for causing wars wherever they as well as impoverishment African States to achieve their objectives...

Sigh….

How many wars has TOTAL NIGERIA caused?

Or you think it’s a Russian company?

BigBashiru:


Of all companies to manufacture their product its a French company? The French must not be allowed to gain a foothold in Nigeria.

France is notorious for causing wars wherever they as well as impoverishment African States to achieve their objectives...

Yap, and Peugeout has sold millions of cars in Nigeria, which have helped a lot of people.

Most problems in African countries are internal, not external. Stop blaming the Europeans.

Would love to buy a locally assembled Peugeot 508.

gwafaeziokwu:


Who is afraid of competition? Innoson is already swimming against the tide with the non regulated influx of tokunbo cars into the country. Innoson do not need 100% of the Nigeria auto mobile share to thrive. He is doing well at the moment, maintaining his market share and trying hard to expand. His newly launched automated plant tells the story of progress.

With a population of 200 million people, there is enough room for everyone to operate, biko.

Let us try and add intellect and absolute integrity to our discussions. Nigerians will buy products from their worst enemy if such fulfils the holy grail requirements of quality and value.

This is the simple reason Toyotas are immensely popular in Nigeria with the Corolla probably being the most common cars on Nigerian roads by far.

Innoson, has been operating for a while now with no significant traction to bring it close to Toyota etal.

Igbos, in my opinion, only see money and this leads them to always chase it to the detriment of quality, brand development and creation of meritoriously iconic and desirable products.

Britain lost out to Japan, per manufacturing of white goods, and TV/audio technology, in the sixties to the seventies because they accepted that Japan could produce more reliable and cheaper versions of those goods bevause they had the comparative advantages to do so.

Britain therefore followed the laws of comparative advantage by scaling back on her manufacturing of less reliable white goods that would struggle in the market because others produced more reliable alternatives that were cheaper.

This then allowed the nation to focus on other areas she had competitive advantages in that made the concessioning of her white goods/electronic products manufacturing sector to Japan not socio-economically devastating for too long.

Vainglorious Igbos can never think like that. You will all back Innoson ignorantly and accuse others of tribalism for not making the group the national approved car supplier to Nigeria without the integrity to accept that others make cars that are far more reliable and cost-effective to own than Innoson can ever produce.

Innosons fundamentally flawed model of procuring cheap automotive parts to assemble cheap and comparatively unreliable vehicle is self-harming because kobo-pinching Nigerians just don't see the brand as a viable alternative to Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Mercedes, Peugeot etal.

Igbos can get away with such practices with fake electronics, fake designer wears, fake generators, inferior China car parts/batteries etal.

Yet vehicles are substantial outlays running into millions and no Nigerian will spend that on vehicles that will not be as robust and as reliable as others in the market let alone States and federal government.

This is what we keep telling you people. Yoruba and Northern business folks like Dangote, because they are about more than money alone, would rather not indulge an Innoson model at all.

They'd prefer to operate as Chief Adeojo and Dangote, as revealed here, operate.

I.e becoming major franchise producers, subsidiaries and suppliers of established brands than creating inferior and non-competitive new brands that will never have desirability value greater than even Tata in a hundred years because of inferior and cheap constructions.

Innoson is a lesson some of us tell you Igbos to learn. Some of your endeavours are not necessarily innovative or testimonies of Igbo 'greater business acumen' in comparison to others.

Rather, they validate the notion of objective business analysts that Igbos are mainly only driven by the desire to make money rather than to be excellent at what they do and create genuinely dominating brands as others dedicate themselves to doing.

Nigeria is a purist market per competitively superior product rising to the top in competition wirh others.


If Innoson is worth the hype, per the pockets of Nigerians, it will be the most popular brand in our nation no sensible Nigerian will shun regardless of their personal feelings about the ethnic identity of the owner.

Your statement below typifies the mentality of most Igbos. You propagate that the market is big enough for all levels, including absolutely crappiest of the crappiest that endangers life, so long as there is money to be made.


This is why Yoruba or Fulani/Hausa business folks will hesitate to follow the Innoson model, once they inspect the big picture, but Igbos will forge ahead with it to then be claiming they are smarter than others not knowing it is the other way round.

All Igbos will blindly defend Innoson but how many prioritise using the vehicle personally and patriotically?

Also, can you seriously argue that the brand has not done as well as it can because value-loving Nigerians will be prejudiced against their own pocket in favour of ethnocentric discrimination against Innoson? Or is the truth that Innoson cars are crap Nigerians are not interested in?

You guys need to look at yourselves and raise the bar and stop making everything about money and ethnicity.

With a population of 200 million people, there is enough room for everyone to operate, biko.

Dangote is just a brand name. Most individuals are hiding under him to own a business.

oguash:

This is the type of useless comments that makes one sick in Nigeria. What about all the vehicles federal parastatls have bn purchasing from innoson motors? Dumb ass

oh come off it...bigotry and religious sentiment is tired of this one
You cant see a U.S agency useing a foreign brand vehicle paid 4 with tax payers money. are we nt supposed to use made in nigeria prod. you Dumb A.ss

SlyDev:
Thank God innoson car are too costly for common man, lets see if they can catch up or scream monopoly again

Dangote is the best thing after fried chicken

beautiful thread but all ur think about is tribalism.......una no dey tire

LogicBomb8:

Exactly since they are home brands

Yea.

LogicBomb8:
Expect kogi state governor to purchace over 500 vehicles from dangote for several state ministries and buhari will make that company the official supplier of vehicles for federal ministries to ensure that the company excel...this is the kind of country we live in

It's good. Other states will follow and hopefully won't be too expensive for the those who buy tokunbo

gwafaeziokwu:


Who is afraid of competition? Innoson is already swimming against the tide with the non regulated influx of tokunbo cars into the country. Innoson do not need 100% of the Nigeria auto mobile share to thrive. He is doing well at the moment, maintaining his market share and trying hard to expand. His newly launched automated plant tells the story of progress.

With a population of 200 million people, there is enough room for everyone to operate, biko.

Why should the influx of tokumbo be regulated. A regulation that will has no benefit to the masses. You should not force someone who like Toyota or BMW to start using innoson

IGBOSON1:


Not denying the virtues of competition in a market-driven economy and how it’s ultimately good for the buyer, but it wouldn’t have escaped the attention of many that it’s only when it comes to a business your envious and bigoted self thinks Igbos are leading in that you’d bring this argument of: ‘competition being good for the masses as it will drive down prices, hence Dangotes’ entry into the Nigerian automobile industry will benefit all’!

How come the so called ‘competition’ in the cement industry (of which Dangote is a key player) hasn’t driven down prices!?

It’s all about greed of the muslim core north hegemony.....wanting to be a ‘leading player’ in ALL commanding heights of the economy, and not wanting the Igbo (who you have designated ‘conquered nyamurees’ by virtue of the uncivil war) to be the leading player in ANY prominent industry/sector in Nigeria!

You did a number on Ibeto and succeeded in sidelining him in the cement industry!

You may be smiling outwards towards Air Peace, but inside you’re bristling with fury that a ‘nyamuree’ has the ‘temerity’ to be the market leader in the aviation sector, hence you’re determined -come hell or high water...by fire, by force- that you must launch that your Air Nigeria before Buhari fcks off in 2023...and corner most of the lucrative international routes as well as airline slots at major international airports just so you can undercut Air Peace! Does anyone actually think those useless rumours of the US wanting him extradited came outta nowhere!? It was to try and sully his reputation and that of his airline!

INNOSON went through similar travails...was hounded and harassed, with his wife slapped by Nigerian security personnel, just because of he ‘dared’ to take a bank to court! He has equally been noted on numerous occasions to bemoan the fact that FOREX is difficult to get at gov’t rates! Meanwhile, Emefiele and the CBN are falling over themselves to give Dangote all the FOREX he needs at favourable rates!

What i see here is nothing but GREED by Dangote! He wants his fingers in ALL pies that matter...certainly, those ones where a Igbo seems to be the market leader! It’s all driven by the belief that THEY and THEY ALONE should control ALL the commanding heights of the Nigerian economy!

Why do u ppl always make it seems like everything and everyone is against the igbos... Driving this point to the point that pple who realy love the Igbos will start rethinking.
The federal government are really supporting innosson motors. They buy official cars from them and they even contract them to make Customize cars for the army. What else do you want? Even innosson himself has come out several times to say that Buhari and the federal government are supporting them immensely, despite the fact that some of his fellow Igbo brothers that are governors are not supporting him. Everything is not about hatred for the igbos

IGBOSON1:


Not denying the virtues of competition in a market-driven economy and how it’s ultimately good for the buyer, but it wouldn’t have escaped the attention of many that it’s only when it comes to a business your envious and bigoted self thinks Igbos are leading in that you’d bring this argument of: ‘competition being good for the masses as it will drive down prices, hence Dangotes’ entry into the Nigerian automobile industry will benefit all’!

How come the so called ‘competition’ in the cement industry (of which Dangote is a key player) hasn’t driven down prices!?

It’s all about greed of the muslim core north hegemony.....wanting to be a ‘leading player’ in ALL commanding heights of the economy, and not wanting the Igbo (who you have designated ‘conquered nyamurees’ by virtue of the uncivil war) to be the leading player in ANY prominent industry/sector in Nigeria!

You did a number on Ibeto and succeeded in sidelining him in the cement industry!

You may be smiling outwards towards Air Peace, but inside you’re bristling with fury that a ‘nyamuree’ has the ‘temerity’ to be the market leader in the aviation sector, hence you’re determined -come hell or high water...by fire, by force- that you must launch that your Air Nigeria before Buhari fcks off in 2023...and corner most of the lucrative international routes as well as airline slots at major international airports just so you can undercut Air Peace! Does anyone actually think those useless rumours of the US wanting him extradited came outta nowhere!? It was to try and sully his reputation and that of his airline!

INNOSON went through similar travails...was hounded and harassed, with his wife slapped by Nigerian security personnel, just because of he ‘dared’ to take a bank to court! He has equally been noted on numerous occasions to bemoan the fact that FOREX is difficult to get at gov’t rates! Meanwhile, Emefiele and the CBN are falling over themselves to give Dangote all the FOREX he needs at favourable rates!

What i see here is nothing but GREED by Dangote! He wants his fingers in ALL pies that matter...certainly, those ones where a Igbo seems to be the market leader! It’s all driven by the belief that THEY and THEY ALONE should control ALL the commanding heights of the Nigerian economy!

Why do u ppl always make it seems like everything and everyone is against the igbos... Driving this point to the point that pple who realy love the Igbos will start rethinking.
The federal government are really supporting innosson motors. They buy official cars from them and they even contract them to make Customize cars for the army. What else do you want? Even innosson himself has come out several times to say that Buhari and the federal government are supporting them immensely, despite the fact that some of his fellow Igbo brothers that are governors are not supporting him. Everything is not about hatred for the igbos.

Bounceboune7:


when there is competition the masses will enjoy
How many commoners do u see using innoson?

The same competition that makes u buy SIM card for 50 naira now instead of 20k they sell it then

Competition is good, no doubt.
However, most Nigerians cannot afford a brand-new car; our disposable income is terribly poor.

In a country where the federal government pays a graduate 30k (less than $60) per month, how on Earth are they supposed to own cars? Even Professor Yemi Osinbajo admitted that he drove tokunbo cars for decades before he could afford to buy brand-new cars.

Admittedly, new cars are not cheap anywhere in the world. But then, what doesn't work here is a credit system that allows most of us to buy the things we need and pay by installment.

That's how most Americans and Europeans buy cars and acquire mortgage. All these Nigerian automakers need to sell that idea to the Nigerian middle-class because fairly used Toyota, Honda and Lexus are practically running this country.

backbencher:


Yap, and Peugeout has sold millions of cars in Nigeria, which have helped a lot of people.

Most problems in African countries are internal, not external. Stop blaming the Europeans.

No Peugeot has not sold millions of cars in Nigeria.... Peugeot is an unknown brand in Nigeria....when last did you see a Peugeot vehicle on the road?

Most problems in African countries are caused by Europeans:

South Africa- evil apartheid regime...blacks not allowed by whites to go to white area on African soil.

Sahel African countries- under French grip and interference.

Namibia- massacre of 80000 Namibian by the Germans in 1908.

Nigeria - killing of 3 million igbos and bombing of infrastructure with British support....

I could go on and on but you get the picture.

IGBOSON1:


Dude, what exactly is your argument here!? We all know the challenging business environment coys like INNOSON work under (esp’ those domiciled in the south-east) yet you expect them to drive down the cost of their brand new automobiles to tokunbo levels just so the common man on the street can afford them? When are you going to show similar concern for the price of cement as well?

But nigerians complain about the cost of everything including cement, why is it now different because its innosson

You are the one dragging it through ethnic line, he said Innoson and he never mentioned any ethnic group.

gwafaeziokwu:


So it's all about "deal with them"?

Shows how poor you are. Men are busy building business empire for their unborn generations and here you are cheerleading along ethnic lines.

What will your children inherit? Your old cheerleader clothes?

CXLVII:


The brand has standards and has replicated its safety and reliability for decades. So if I m mandated to buy either of two, common sense will definitely make me opt for Peugeot. Cos they have a name to protect.

For ur info Peugeot is a dead brand. The preferred brands in Nigeria are Toyota, etcc

CXLVII:


That’s because it’s Peugeot. The Automaker is tested and trusted, and has proven its reliability for decades.

That we cannot say about Innoson. It’s a Chinese product!

Lol nobody said that when we all had to leave our tested trusted foreign rice to use stones just to save our crashing economy. And as for chinese product i think you are still in the dark because all the blue chip companies want to have a production line in chine and ofcourse they aint foolish.

DropsMic:
Now watch how federal government gon support his auto company

Just like they are supporting innosson more than anyone else now

IGBOSON1:


Not denying the virtues of competition in a market-driven economy and how it’s ultimately good for the buyer, but it wouldn’t have escaped the attention of many that it’s only when it comes to a business your envious and bigoted self thinks Igbos are leading in that you’d bring this argument of: ‘competition being good for the masses as it will drive down prices, hence Dangotes’ entry into the Nigerian automobile industry will benefit all’!

How come the so called ‘competition’ in the cement industry (of which Dangote is a key player) hasn’t driven down prices!?

It’s all about greed of the muslim core north hegemony.....wanting to be a ‘leading player’ in ALL commanding heights of the economy, and not wanting the Igbo (who you have designated ‘conquered nyamurees’ by virtue of the uncivil war) to be the leading player in ANY prominent industry/sector in Nigeria!

You did a number on Ibeto and succeeded in sidelining him in the cement industry!

You may be smiling outwards towards Air Peace, but inside you’re bristling with fury that a ‘nyamuree’ has the ‘temerity’ to be the market leader in the aviation sector, hence you’re determined -come hell or high water...by fire, by force- that you must launch that your Air Nigeria before Buhari fcks off in 2023...and corner most of the lucrative international routes as well as airline slots at major international airports just so you can undercut Air Peace! Does anyone actually think those useless rumours of the US wanting him extradited came outta nowhere!? It was to try and sully his reputation and that of his airline!

INNOSON went through similar travails...was hounded and harassed, with his wife slapped by Nigerian security personnel, just because of he ‘dared’ to take a bank to court! He has equally been noted on numerous occasions to bemoan the fact that FOREX is difficult to get at gov’t rates! Meanwhile, Emefiele and the CBN are falling over themselves to give Dangote all the FOREX he needs at favourable rates!

What i see here is nothing but GREED by Dangote! He wants his fingers in ALL pies that matter...certainly, those ones where a Igbo seems to be the market leader! It’s all driven by the belief that THEY and THEY ALONE should control ALL the commanding heights of the Nigerian economy!

No peace for bigoted souls
Here they come again, God! They so much fear Muslims and north dominating the economy. They hate competition because you all know you don't stand a chance with Muslims and north, lol. Your hatred for Islam & muslims in general is the major cause of division & disunity in southern part of the country today. They are talking about car plant, you quickly drag islam/muslims into it with people like you in the south, the region will remain a battle ground between Muslims & christians while homogenous & united muslim north Will remain your worse nightmare, continue. Let southern & Nothern Christians (both elites & the common) buy Christian cars & let southern & North Muslims buy Muslim cars, fair enough?
And as a southern Muslim, me, my households and community will buy Muslim car, thanks to idiots like you.

eebraa:
It's good. Other states will follow and hopefully won't be too expensive for the those who buy tokunbo

Lols

CXLVII:


Sigh….

How many wars has TOTAL NIGERIA caused?

Or you think it’s a Russian company?

Total operations in Mozambique have been halted for a year in the area they operate due to terrorist attacks..... the prime minister of Mali told Russian media he had evidence French soldiers were recruiting and training terrorists in mali....maybe total wants to use terrorism to unsettle the area in Mozambique so they can get free oil or cheaper labour. African blood/death means nothing to the uncivilised French savages

LogicBomb8:


oh come off it...bigotry and religious sentiment is tired of this one
You cant see a U.S agency useing a foreign brand vehicle paid 4 with tax payers money. are we nt supposed to use made in nigeria prod. you Dumb A.ss

We should endure with inferior offerings, self-destructively, because of a misguided notion of patriotism?

Why not enjoin Innoson to raise the bar so it can be a worthy national brand instead of operating like most Igbos business that shun a dedication to excellence in preference for using Nigeria as dumping ground for the cheapest and most inferior goods in the world as long as their bank balance keeps getting bigger?

You think Countries like the USA and UK, in using indigenous models like Ford etal, don't insist on minimal and comparatively decent level of quality before settling on their own nation's car brands?

Those nations did not become great enduring with mediocrity as you're asking Nigeria to do. We have to get the balance right.

Let Innoson make cars that will have a good blend of quality, reliability and favorable running cost and I am sure no Nigerian government, however anti-Igbo, will shun the benefits such a partnership will bring.

jrusky:


I think I have read on several occasion that Fed govt purchased vehicles from Innoson.

And I think innoson should try to cut cost of his vehicles at least for average Nigerians to be able to purchase them. Both company are welcome and we want more of it.

I just check the list of innoson cars and there is one of about four million, for my own opinion that's a very good price for a new car.

LogicBomb8:


Ur not totally wrong sir, but you can agree with me that innoson an indigenous car company deserves more than it is getting. NO GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE USES A FOREIGN OR IMPORTED BRAND OF CEMENT WHEN WE HAVE AN INDIGENOUS CEMENT PRODUCER AS OUR FELLOW COUNTRY MAN. many of the countries we emultate do not use foreign brand of vehicles for official purposes i wish my country can patronise our own

To be honest this is just greediness, the federal government has tried, and even contract them to be making military car. Wat do you want for them to force Nigerians to use innosson. The FG ban tokunbo cars and block d bothers, ur brothers are still among pple smuggling them in. Even some Igbo governors doesn't support innosson

SlyDev:
Thank God innoson car are too costly for common man, lets see if they can catch up or scream monopoly again

Dangote is the best thing after fried chicken

Is any Dangote product cheaper than its competitors? From Cement to Sugar, you better don't dash your hopes

LogicBomb8:


Lol nobody said that when we all had to leave our tested trusted foreign rice to use stones just to save our crashing economy. And as for chinese product i think you are still in the dark because all the blue chip companies want to have a production line in chine and ofcourse they aint foolish.

Because of cheap labour! Nothing else!