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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by phineas: 7:34am On Feb 09, 2022
Any public outry on this case should be for justice for DOWEN boys now.... Perhaps only medical people see it clearly

MDCN in her regulatory role is the best person's to step into this case cos it's clear to all the first pathologist that was a quack had a strong role to play in the wrong detention of juveniles for something as grevious as a murder charge. How did that even happen.Only a coroner's autopsy should have been allowed for the purpose of their detention but I guess Lagos was afraid of public opinion

I'll try and explain for non medical person's here.You can not say there was signs of aspiration poisoning from things in his stomach due to something swallowed if you did not check in lay men's terms ( the food pipe)

The first thing any clinical student in gastric surgery in Nigeria knows this because Nigerians for some odd reason drink diverse corrosive substances in half hearted protest attempts or by accident.

The first thing it does. Is burn the oesophagus in a chemical poisoning before it affects the tougher overprotected stomach.Many times and in most of the cases the oesophagus( food pipe )is severely affected but not the stomach. So imagine an autopsy that concludes the findings in the stomach is from swallowing without looking at the affect on the oesophagus?

His autopsy was also not recorded? Why? No pictures at the least? If there are he needs to explain himself clearly to a panel.This pathologist and the first Dr that saw this student where lax in their business very lax.

It had far reaching consequences. And the fact that those Drs are still clinging to self survival at the cost of the future of these little kids who always have to explain in future that they had been tried sometime in the past for a murder case is evil. Some of the kids were not even there on said day (3 out of 5)

DOWEN boys must be cleared of that allegation and the state and police pay for it's incompetence.Those Drs must be stripped of their certificates for a period of time they are both a hazard to society

And lastly anyone still dragging DOWEN and DOWEN boy for murder now is complicit.If you have kids fear God
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Eketem: 7:35am On Feb 09, 2022
phineas:
Any public outry on this case should be for justice for DOWEN boys now.... Perhaps only medical people see it clearly

MDCN in her regulatory role is the best person's to step into this case cos it's clear to all the first pathologist that was a quack had a strong role to play in the wrong detention of juveniles for something as grevious as a murder charge. How did that even happen.Only a coroner's autopsy should have been allowed for the purpose of their detention but I guess Lagos was afraid of public opinion

I'll try and explain for non medical person's here.You can not say there was signs of aspiration poisoning from things in his stomach due to something swallowed if you did not check in lay men's terms ( the food pipe)

The first thing any clinical student in gastric surgery in Nigeria knows this because Nigerians for some odd reason drink diverse corrosive substances in half hearted protest attempts or by accident.

The first thing it does. Is burn the oesophagus in a chemical poisoning before it affects the tougher overprotected stomach.Many times and in most of the cases the oesophagus( food pipe )is severely affected but not the stomach. So imagine an autopsy that concludes the findings in the stomach is from swallowing without looking at the affect on the oesophagus?

His autopsy was also not recorded? Why? No pictures at the least? If there are he needs to explain himself clearly to a panel.This pathologist and the first Dr that saw this student where lax in their business very lax.

It had far reaching consequences. And the fact that those Drs are still clinging to self survival at the cost of the future of these little kids who always have to explain in future that they had been tried sometime in the past for a murder case is evil. Some of the kids were not even there on said day (3 out of 5)

DOWEN boys must be cleared of that allegation and the state and police pay for it's incompetence.Those Drs must be stripped of their certificates for a period of time they are both a hazard to society

And lastly anyone still dragging DOWEN and DOWEN boy for murder now is complicit.If you have kids fear God

Thank you. How do you see straight facts and still hold on to a false sentiment
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Crafteck1: 7:37am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


Even the family knew the Autopsy they did in Delta was fake that's why they didn't tender it as evidence at the Inquest. The only reason why they shared the report to the press a few days before the main autopsy came out is so people will not believe the real autopsy.

Just imagine the parents of the boys in Dowen didn't have money to do their own that's how they would have used fake everything to put those boys in prison.

Slyvesters family lied to Nigerians

See as the truth is coming out, people jumped into conclusions earlier.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by tuboi: 7:38am On Feb 09, 2022
Brendaniel:
You see one thing I hate about Nigeria, secrecy is too much, something happened to the boy in the school which led to him falling sick and died, why are they not investigating the cause of what led to him falling sick based on events that took place in the school, the boy has friends, till date nobody has heard any testimonies from his friends and other school children in the school, secrecy is too much to be released to the public, there is no way witnesses would not have been in place during such event, but then this is NIGERIA

The same way, herdsmen will attack a village and police arrests the herdsmen, they find out who sent them, secrecy starts:
POLICE- You know the person involved in this case is the brother to the uncle of the inlaw to the sister of the wife of the president, we cannot divulge such information to the public, this is national security issue...

They are released to continue their havoc, This is not national security, this is Nigeria...

Thank God for sensible people like you….y is d sole focus of d case *murder* why is no one talking about assault, attempted murder, injury with intent to kill.y haven’t they invited those present when it happened..what led to d multiple infections detected? Let’s start asking the right questions

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by phineas: 7:40am On Feb 09, 2022
wirinet:
Please read the quote you posted 2 or 3 times so you can comprehend. This is just external examination and reasons were given for the various marks on the body.

Vertical marks on the chin - post mortem injury.

Circular injury on the right ankle - a recent injury. Circular injury around the ankle means skin abrasion caused by hand.

Reddening on the lower part of the two legs - embalming fluid did not get to that part of his body.



I agree the family was negligent, but the school was also negligent. They should have taken Sylvester to a proper hospital when they saw his health deteriorating fast, instead of panicking and waiting for the parents to show up to pick the kid. If The parents were unavoidably unavailable, will they just watch the kid die. They were just too desperate to get rid of the kid, so he won't die in their custody.

They were not the one that carried out the "False" autopsy report. The autopsy in Warri was carried out by the Nigerian police. They were only given a copy of the report, which the released publicly.


If the school had taken him to the hospital instead of handing him over to his parents perhaps it may have helped .but listen to yourself did you just see that a key factor in his demise was their poor care.

Now it's the schools fault? If the school had done that and he did not make it would we not have blamed the school for using him for rituals? The school did the right thing They identified he was sick enough to need further care and rightfully handed him to his guardians.How they choose to respond is completely on them and not the school
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Lifestone(m): 7:40am On Feb 09, 2022
AfroKnight:
We already knew they would twist this case. DPP decided to release the suspects before the conclusion of this inquest. Jumping the gun. Such a brazen step only tells you they are ready to go the extra mile to frustrate the victim’s family.

Government magic at play here. Dem turn blue into red, dem turn electric to candle.
The suspects have rights also. Once the DPP has no reason to trial then, they should be released
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Nauttyprof(m): 7:47am On Feb 09, 2022
Viruses:

The same police o. If this is true, why police dey doubt police?

I tire o. Foul play at work. Just to do everything possible in winning the case
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by phineas: 7:51am On Feb 09, 2022
tuboi:


Thank God for sensible people like you….y is d sole focus of d case *murder* why is no one talking about assault, attempted murder, injury with intent to kill.y haven’t they invited those present when it happened..what led to d multiple infections detected? Let’s start asking the right questions

It's like you don't get it.That was a very very sick child.

If you have kids you will understand.Kids will be running around very fine absolutely ok.then they have a slight fever you rush them to the hospital and the FBC shows high infection that an adult with the same finding is on a bed crying I am about to die .uneducated folks will be giving them paracetamol hence the high childhood mortality in Nigeria.

If the school identified he was sick and sent home.If all medical findings showed he died from longstanding sickness which the autopsy picked.why on earth would you want to hold kids for his murder?

Perhaps they beat him right? Did the beating contribute to his death? Did you here the part were 3 out of those 5 boys were not even there.Could Sylvester have been hallucinating? (There was low blood to the brain) An expected symptom in this case? shouldn't we all try to search for the truth? Do you have kids?

At best a case of bullying may be visited under the child right act but not murder except you are been outrightly evil.

There has been a sad miscarriage of justice here.The way the president of the US knelt and begged George flyods kid That is how I hope the Lagos Governor kneels and begs these boys.Do you know everywhere in future when asked that question have you have been arrested for anything more than a traffic offence? They have to pick yes and explain they were tried for murder? How many places would bother probing further that will be the end of their application.how is that right?
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Nauttyprof(m): 7:51am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:

Again why didn't the family tender that one as evidence? Simple question, if it was done well and showed evidence of what happened to their son why did they only post online and not bring it to the Inquest as evidence?

After I tackled the initial, you came up with 'again' If you read the details, you won't even type this nonsense. I hope you saw that DPP has not tendered it before the court. Which suggests that there is a process or procedure.

So, please stop say all sorts like a layman.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Nobody: 7:52am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


Even the family knew the Autopsy they did in Delta was fake that's why they didn't tender it as evidence at the Inquest. The only reason why they shared the report to the press a few days before the main autopsy came out is so people will not believe the real autopsy.

Just imagine the parents of the boys in Dowen didn't have money to do their own that's how they would have used fake everything to put those boys in prison.

Slyvesters family lied to Nigerians

So the child was not bullied? The biggest liars are the school authority. Is it only autopsy that is used for investigation, what about the statements from other kids? It's like you were paid or your family member is involved in the murder. How do people like you sleep at night
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Babinski: 7:53am On Feb 09, 2022
michlins:
This family scammed Nigerians and used public sympathy to condemn innocent people. The truth is coming out small small

While the law is that accussed people are innocent until proven guilty, the information from various sources including ex-staff of Dowen on the issue of bullying shows that it requires further investigation by the Police.

To simply try to equate autopsy result to the solution of an alleged murder case and bullying is shoddy work at its best. There are various ways to kill people that the autopsy would easily attribute to normal death and yet the cases are murder.

How did a football injury within days become a serious generalized infection? Has the deceased been a subject of bullying at Dowen has alleged? Are there student cults at Dowen? Where all relevant parties including students questioned thoroughly? All these are questions raised that we need answers to and not the singular focus on autopsy results. The Police really did a shoddy job.

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by phineas: 7:54am On Feb 09, 2022
AfroKnight:
We already knew they would twist this case. DPP decided to release the suspects before the conclusion of this inquest. Jumping the gun. Such a brazen step only tells you they are ready to go the extra mile to frustrate the victim’s family.

Government magic at play here. Dem turn blue into red, dem turn electric to candle.

DPP should never have held them for murder.There was no evidence linking them to the death of the boy other than hearsay.I repeat no evidence.

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by bayelsa1son(m): 7:57am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


Even the family knew the Autopsy they did in Delta was fake that's why they didn't tender it as evidence at the Inquest. The only reason why they shared the report to the press a few days before the main autopsy came out is so people will not believe the real autopsy.

Just imagine the parents of the boys in Dowen didn't have money to do their own that's how they would have used fake everything to put those boys in prison.

Slyvesters family lied to Nigerians
Another Yoruba fool...that is claiming i too know...empty headed chest beater Agberos...
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Nobody: 7:59am On Feb 09, 2022
phineas:


It's like you don't get it.That was a very very sick child.

If you have kids you will understand.Kids will be running around very fine absolutely ok.then they have a slight fever you rush them to the hospital and the FBC shows high infection that an adult with the same finding is on a bed crying I am about to die .uneducated folks will be giving them paracetamol hence the high childhood mortality in Nigeria.

If the school identified he was sick and sent home.If all medical findings showed he died from longstanding sickness which the autopsy picked.why on earth would you want to hold kids for his murder?

Perhaps they beat him right? Did the beating contribute to his death? Did you here the part were 3 out of those 5 boys were not even there.Could Sylvester have been hallucinating? An expected symptom in this case?shouldn't we all try to search for the truth? Do you have kids?

At best a case of bullying may be visited under the child right act but not murder except you are been outrightly evil.

There has been a sad miscarriage of justice here.The way the president of the US knelt and begged George flyods kid That is how I hope the Lagos Governor kneels and begs these boys.Do you know everywhere in future when asked that question have you have been arrested for anything more than a traffic offence? They have to pick yes and explain they were tried for murder? How many places would bother probing further that will be the end of their application.how is that right?


All those involved in the death of that kid na Devil go kneel down behind their anus dey beg them. The child that died who has knelt down to beg the parents? No go let thunder destroy your destiny bcuz you want support your interest o.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by LastProphet: 8:00am On Feb 09, 2022
Brendaniel:
You see one thing I hate about Nigeria, secrecy is too much, something happened to the boy in the school which led to him falling sick and died, why are they not investigating the cause of what led to him falling sick based on events that took place in the school, the boy has friends, till date nobody has heard any testimonies from his friends and other school children in the school, secrecy is too much to be released to the public, there is no way witnesses would not have been in place during such event, but then this is NIGERIA

The same way, herdsmen will attack a village and police arrests the herdsmen, they find out who sent them, secrecy starts:
POLICE- You know the person involved in this case is the brother to the uncle of the inlaw to the sister of the wife of the president, we cannot divulge such information to the public, this is national security issue...

They are released to continue their havoc, This is not national security, this is Nigeria...

A big point, up till now no one knows what caused Bellview crash, no one knows what caused Sosoliso crash, all you hear are lies and sentiments and hubris. A failed people
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by phineas: 8:02am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:

Again why didn't the family tender that one as evidence? Simple question, if it was done well and showed evidence of what happened to their son why did they only post online and not bring it to the Inquest as evidence?

Thank you o. Let's assume that was too implicating to their quack pathologist and he couldn't write one, why did they also not post the FBC of the sick child.they want to use sentiments

I have not seen his predeath FBC anywhere.Where was the FBC of a child the school told his parents was sick.Thats the most basic test anyone should have done.That would have shown Sylvester was very very sick .it would have shown his blood was very low,it would have alerted the Drs that all he was saying may have been hallucinations to be taken with a pinch of salt and strict prompt treatment started. Have you all seen sick people hallucinate before do you know all kinds of things they say ?Imagine 3 boys that were not even there standing murder trials based on hallucinations? Because the Drs that should have run basic tests and clarified this were negligent and stupid

WHERE is Sylvester's Full Blood Count result before he died.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by adecz: 8:02am On Feb 09, 2022
Na for only Nigeria person go
give you slap & the thing go affect
you kidney, stomach and heart ♥ ❗️❗️ ☹️
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by chigator2: 8:04am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


No DPP advised , it was based on the advise the family objected and asked for an Inquest, same Inquest they wanted to stop when the truth started coming out.

There is no magic, the family was the one who kept on pushing false and misleading news to the public, now take all those things to court we haven't seen yet. Even their own supposed autopsy report from Warri that claimed poison they didn't bring as evidence. It is the family doing magic

Heartless fellow,

Please tell us what was the cause of death.
He died of natural causes ba ?

Whatever the illness, it began in school under the custody of the school. Hold them responsible.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by tuboi: 8:05am On Feb 09, 2022
phineas:


It's like you don't get it.That was a very very sick child.

If you have kids you will understand.Kids will be running around very fine absolutely ok.then they have a slight fever you rush them to the hospital and the FBC shows high infection that an adult with the same finding is on a bed crying I am about to die .uneducated folks will be giving them paracetamol hence the high childhood mortality in Nigeria.

If the school identified he was sick and sent home.If all medical findings showed he died from longstanding sickness which the autopsy picked.why on earth would you want to hold kids for his murder?

Perhaps they beat him right? Did the beating contribute to his death? Did you here the part were 3 out of those 5 boys were not even there.Could Sylvester have been hallucinating? An expected symptom in this case?shouldn't we all try to search for the truth? Do you have kids?

At best a case of bullying may be visited under the child right act but not murder except you are been outrightly evil.

There has been a sad miscarriage of justice here.The way the president of the US knelt and begged George flyods kid That is how I hope the Lagos Governor kneels and begs these boys.Do you know everywhere in future when asked that question have you have been arrested for anything more than a traffic offence? They have to pick yes and explain they were tried for murder? How many places would bother probing further that will be the end of their application.how is that right?

Thanks for your matured comment..All I’m interested in is the truth.If the boy has underlying health problems, it should be established.if he was hallucinating, witnesses should be called..I don’t just want the sole focus of the case to be on the autopsy..
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by wirinet(m): 8:06am On Feb 09, 2022
phineas:



If the school had taken him to the hospital instead of handing him over to his parents perhaps it may have helped .but listen to yourself did you just see that a key factor in his demise was their poor care.

Now it's the schools fault? If the school had done that and he did not make it would we not have blamed the school for using him for rituals? The school did the right thing They identified he was sick enough to need further care and rightfully handed him to his guardians.How they choose to respond is completely on them and not the school

You are still aggressively defending the school. Are you a member of the Dowen College Board? Now tell me what would Dowen College have done if the patents did not show up or send someone? Would they just watch a student die and then blame the parents for not coming? Look life is sacrosanct and the first impulse in all situations is to save life.

They called the father, the father said he would send someone. Citing minor football injury. No one showed up for 2 days. They then called again, this time in panic, before his father sent his brother to pick him up. By the time the brother got to the school he was shocked at the state of Sylvester. He immediately called Sylvester's father back and said this looks more serious than mere football injury. This is the point that the father should have ordered that they take the boy to the nearest hospital. But no, he took him home. And this began the series of blunders that led to his eventual death.

If Dowen College had taken the boy to the hospital (with the fathers consent of couse) and he died, how would the college be accused of using him for ritual? Even if it's without the fathers consent due to the emergency, and he died, would there not be doctors report snd coroner inquest.

Religion and superstition is really destroying the fabric of African societies.

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by wirinet(m): 8:08am On Feb 09, 2022
tuboi:

Thanks for your matured comment..All I’m interested in is the truth.If the boy has underlying health problems, it should be established.if he was hallucinating, witnesses should be called..I don’t just want the sole focus of the case to be on the autopsy..
He never had any underlying health problems. His body was laced with deadly bacteria that infected all vital organs of his body.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by lebienconnu: 8:09am On Feb 09, 2022
The fact that the first pathologist did not open the oesophagus, trachea and the lungs has completely invalidated his conclusion on Acute Lung Injury secondary to chemical intoxication like Dr Soyemi rightly said.

He left so much room for doubt. Only God knows what he is passing through now with MDCN.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Omololaeni(f): 8:09am On Feb 09, 2022
Both the poster and those that replied immediately know what they are doing, they planned to post what they posted. May God Judge you all.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Eketem: 8:12am On Feb 09, 2022
chigator2:


Heartless fellow,

Please tell us what was the cause of death.
He died of natural causes ba ?

Whatever the illness, it began in school under the custody of the school. Hold them responsible.

Ask yourself who the real heartless person is one stating the facts or the one who wants to hold on to false allegations despite evidence.

Go and read every question has been answered
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Eketem: 8:12am On Feb 09, 2022
Omololaeni:
Both the poster and those that replied immediately know what they are doing, they planned to post what they posted. May God Judge you all.

God judge you too
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Vyvyanvyvy: 8:12am On Feb 09, 2022
Justice belongs to God,soon the truth will be unravelled.

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Eketem: 8:13am On Feb 09, 2022
lebienconnu:
The fact that the first pathologist did not open the oesophagus, trachea and the lungs has completely invalidated his conclusion on Acute Lung Injury secondary to chemical intoxication like Dr Soyemi rightly said.

He left so much room for doubt. Only God knows what he is passing through now with MDCN.

Him and the doctor treating him for malaria should be facing MDCN

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by BluntTheApostle(m): 8:17am On Feb 09, 2022
Ficient:


So the child was not bullied? The biggest liars are the school authority. Is it only autopsy that is used for investigation, what about the statements from other kids? It's like you were paid or your family member is involved in the murder. How do people like you sleep at night

In the face of medical evidence, you are still talking about eyewitness account.

The problem with people like you is that you took sides too quickly, and with a lot of emotions too.

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Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by Omololaeni(f): 8:19am On Feb 09, 2022
Vyvyanvyvy:
Justice belongs to God,soon the truth will be unravelled.

Amen.
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by chigator2: 8:28am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


Ask yourself who the real heartless person is one stating the facts or the one who wants to hold on to false allegations despite evidence.

Go and read every question has been answered

Don't refer me to anything, since you are well paid to speak in their defence, tell us, according to your paymasters, who or what killed Sylvester Oromoni
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by stanliwise(m): 8:29am On Feb 09, 2022
Eketem:


Even the family knew the Autopsy they did in Delta was fake that's why they didn't tender it as evidence at the Inquest. The only reason why they shared the report to the press a few days before the main autopsy came out is so people will not believe the real autopsy.

Just imagine the parents of the boys in Dowen didn't have money to do their own that's how they would have used fake everything to put those boys in prison.

Slyvesters family lied to Nigerians
so what is the truth?
Re: Slyvester Oromoniyi: Delta Autopsy Botched, No Evidence Of Poison - Pathologist by chigator2: 8:30am On Feb 09, 2022
BluntTheApostle:


In the face of medical evidence, you are still talking about eyewitness account.

The problem with people like you is that you took sides too quickly, and with a lot of emotions too.


What killed the boy then ?

Natural causes ba ? You shall drink of this bitter cup, I assure you.

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