₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
Have you not seen how Arochukwu is led traditionally by an Akpa/akamkpa dynasty
Have you not heard how Eboes teamed up with Balewa in 1960
Have you not heard how Eboes teamed up with Balewa in 1965
Have you not heard how Eboes teamed up with Shagari in 1979
Have you not heard how Eboes teamed up with Shagari in 1983

Have you not heard how Ojukwu was campaigning for Shagari in 1983

None of the crap you wrote above, showed Igbos working against a sitting southern president.

But Yorubas worked hard to remove a SS president in the person of GEJ.

Tell us the southern president that the Igbos worked hard to replace with a Fulani man.

Also tell us any Igbo town that is culturally led by a Fulani.

If you can't supply adequate response to my requests, then you also have the right to shut up.

OfoIgbo:
None of the crap you wrote above, showed Igbos working against a sitting southern president.

But Yorubas worked hard to remove a SS president in the person of GEJ.

Tell us the southern president that the Igbos worked hard to replace with a Fulani man.

Also tell us any Igbo town that is culturally led by a Fulani.

If you can't supply adequate response to my requests, then you also have the right to shut up.

Arochukwu is culturally led by the Akpa/Akamkpa Eze Ibom isi

They installed the Ekpe society and other Ibom institutions and used Arochukwu to sell Eboes for centuries.

There is nothing like southern

so spare us the whining All that stuff above show there is nothing like southern in Eboe minds

We voted Jonathan in 2011. He was a disaster and we voted him out.

So all that childish sentiment only works in the FOUR CORNERS of an Eboe head. You can twist it any way to suit you thinking you are clever the reality is that the Yoruba and Eboe are competiors in politics .That was a decision the Eboes made in 1960 and have followed for ever so why dredging up a phantom "sitting president" what the hell is that ?

What was the benefit to the Yoruba of the so called southern President?

Bottomline Eboes believe that they lost the Biafra war because of Yoruba and are waiting to get even but Orunmila pass them.
All night long the chicken watches the corn in the bottle. It will not taste a single one

2023 is round the corner go and compete

You know you have no chance because of your despicable conduct

The 3 major ethnic groups that makes up nigeria don't trust each other the only way out still remains either restructuring or outright division of nigeria any other thing is just chasing shadows.

This moroons don't know 2023 is a trap igbos have set for Nigeria.. deny them dis presidency and see how Nigeria will evaporate like smoke into thin Air

JOemmy:
The 3 major ethnic groups that makes up nigeria don't trust each other the only way out still remains either restructuring or outright division of nigeria any other thing is just chasing shadows.

You are mistaken
The Yoruba Ijaw and Hausa get along fine

Eastlink:
Wike of yesterday. Which political influence did Wike had in 2019? Even Peter Obi got lucky with that ticket as the likes of Ekweremadu and Anyim had to allow GEJ choose VP candidate for the SE. The Presidency is another ball game entirely and Wike and Obi needs a lot of external political machinery to go far, which both lacks.

Wike simply makes noise and is not even influential as Amaechi. For delegates, I can agree with you. But don't forget that getting delegates has changed from how it was in the past to direct primaries. Meaning that a single person cannot sit in his parlour to influence delegates as it was before.

And for zoning, it has been a north and south thing I agree. There's been a secret gentleman agreement by the stakeholders of Nigeria to microzone the Presidency. We saw this after the death of Yar'adua from the NW, when the north clamoured for the Presidency. Instead of going to north central or north east it went back to North West to complete their tenure in Buhari.

The SW and SS cannot request for the Presidency when the SE haven't tasted Presidency nor Vice since the return of democracy. What plea are they coming with in the negotiation table? The SW came with Abiola mandate in 1999 and the stakeholders gifted them the seat for peace and stability, what will they come with this time around?
If the Presidency comes south in 2023, the same stakeholders will make sure it goes SE.

lmao. Where did you see these nonsense? You believe Buhari is president because Yar ardua didn't complete his tenure? Buhari has been contesting for President since 2003, I mean he has always been on the ballot, not primaries, he has always been there during final voting. He won because he aligned with ACN, nPDP etc. He contested the primaries against others like kwankwanso Rochas etc and defeated them. Buhari has been getting millions of votes every single time presidential election is held since 2003. Wetin concern APC with Yarardua?

The South West and South south will not request for presidential tickets, they will surely contest in the primaries whether you like it or not. You have no idea how politics works. South south, South East and south west will all contest the Pdp primaries. If you want it go and start visiting the people who have influence over delegates in different states and start making your case.

Eastlink:
And for zoning, it has been a north and south thing I agree. There's been a secret gentleman agreement by the stakeholders of Nigeria to microzone the Presidency. We saw this after the death of Yar'adua from the NW, when the north clamoured for the Presidency. Instead of going to north central or north east it went back to North West to complete their tenure in Buhari.

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You people just lie for fun
Answer a simple question if indeed there was a microzoning gentleman's agreement involving Buhari was he a party to it and which zone did he agree to support when he leaves?

Buhari won APC ticket not because of any fictional microzoning but because of his PERSONAL FOLLOWING in the North

Stop all these silly stories

Walkee:
lmao. Where did you see these nonsense? You believe Buhari is president because Yar ardua didn't complete his tenure? Buhari has been contesting for President since 2003, I mean he has always been on the ballot, not primaries, he has always been there during final voting. He won because he aligned with ACN, nPDP etc. He contested the primaries against others like kwankwanso Rochas etc and defeated them. Buhari has been getting millions of votes every single time presidential election is held since 2003. Wetin concern APC with Yarardua?

The South West and South south will not request for presidential tickets, they will surely contest in the primaries whether you like it or not. You have no idea how politics works. South south, South East and south west will all contest the Pdp primaries. If you want it go and start visiting the people who have influence over delegates in different states and start making your case.

It just shows you the infantile thinking of these folk

They tell such a childish and ridiculous story with no cognitive dissonance whatsoever
These stories make plenty of sense.................

Inside the FOUR CORNERS of an Eboe head

bjdon:
Stupid people. So you'll come and force me to vote for a SE person abi? Nonsense. Instead of your candidates to be building alliances across the country, they are waiting for zoning. Una go wait tire.

But same you waiting for northerners to zone apc and pdp presidential candidacy to the "south"....

Eastlink:
I suppose the innocent civilians killed in the SW by OPC and other sponsored groups during the Oso Abiola and killings of Hausa traders by the Yoruba from 1993-1999 was directed at the federal government? I suppose the burning of innocent non-Yoruba by OPC under the guise of cleansing the SW of criminals was directed at the federal government?

I suppose the Sharia riots in the north from 2001-2006 which culminated to Miss World riots, Reinhard Bonnke riots, Kano riots, Maiduguri riots, Jos riots, Kaduna riots and numerous other killings, was directed at the federal government? I suppose the Abuja bombings, Madala church bombing, Boko Haram slaughter of innocent civilians and terrorism was directed at the government?

I suppose the killing of military and police men by militants was directed at the Federal government? The Warri riots masterminded by Tompolo on the Itshekiri, the kidnap of both foreign and local oil workers for ransom with the unlucky killed for non-payment, the pipeline blow up was directed at the federal government. Even the Eagle Square Abuja bombing by Orkar of MEND that killed scores was directed at the federal government.

So tell me the difference between the activities of these groups and the UGM/IPOB in the SE? Infact IPOB is still a learner compared to the chaos of OPC and northern Sharia. The country is this way because we tend to appraise the crime of one group while vilify others. If the government had apprehended and punished criminals and mass murderers in the past instead of rewarding them do you think you'll have such antecendent rear it's ugly head? What is bad is bad and what is good is good. Let the eagle perch and let the kite perch, whoever say one shouldn't will have his wings broken.

All these you mentioned were never about agitation for presidency by the respective groups. Like I said before, while the OPC, Niger Delta Militants, Sharialists, Boko Haram, etc, did all that; none of them as a group derailed from it into insulting other ethnicities claiming they were responsible for their predicaments and rewriting history against them.
If you can cite an instance where Niger Delta Militants, OPC, Boko Haram, Sharialists, etc ever insulted any other single tribe the way Nnamdi Kanu and Ipobians are known to, then I will change my views.
In fact IPOB's agitation was founded largely on Jonathan's loss and not even really about any of the injustices you lots now accuse Nigeria of against you.
Uwazurike was handling the Igbo agitation sensibly and devoid of insults to other tribes and regions hence was already gathering trans-regional and trans-ethic sympathy and support before Nnamdi Kanu hijacked it and made nonsense of it with his puerile hate campaign and revisionism of history against other tribes and regions. Had Nnamdi Kanu never come into the picture, Uwazurike's style would have made an Igbo man president far before the SS clinched in through Jonathan.

caracas:
Pls don't let me swear for you via this app
What do you mean APC is making corrections required?
How can any one be this insensitive.....

They are making corrections and you know it

EmirGold:
*Reject VP slot
*Vow to sanction any Igbo politician who accepts to be running mate to candidates from other regions
*Threaten to quit Nigeria, if…



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/02/2023-southeast-must-produce-next-president-igbo-elders-insist/

If not for numerous political mistakes of the past the SE would have long produce the president of the country,but it's never too late,I support their stand.

Penguin2:
Mummy said you should go and check if Tinubu haff poo

Na your Eze dey clean him shit before. Is he retired ?

Karlirk:
I hope people know the Igbos have more than 30 million people in Nigeria. That's the right metric and not some skewed voting population figures. Government should work with this figure when making certain critical decisions.

This is the right time to heal the wound and move on, otherwise Nigeria may not survive another power rotation for 16 years without the Igbos. I don't think this is possible.

What do you gain by returning power to the South South or the South West? Nothing.

Let the inequity be rectified now. It will be dangerous not to.

Where were Aguiyi Ironsi and Nnamdi Azikiwe from? When will it be the turn of Edos, Urhobos, Isokos, Efiks, Ibibios, etc? Where is the justice in seeking to be president of a country you believe is a zoo? Where is the justice in seeking to rule a country you are asking to exit? Or will they rule Nigeria from an independent Biafra Republic? Where is the justice in carrying out a coup killing political leader of every other region while assisting all their own political leaders escape into safety? What is the fairness in insulting all other tribes continuously for eight years over the electoral defeat of a man who is not even a kinsman of theirs even when the region that owned him only mourned his loss for a year? Is that kind of approach to politics not dangerous to the society?

frankson1:
The Elders didn't mention the party tht should give them the ticket. I doubt if they would want the Fulani and Almajiri party to give them the slot.

Only PDP and APGA owe them the moral obligation of giving them ticket. I don't except them to accept the ticket of the APC they have consistently described as the devil's own party. If PDP can't exclusively zone her ticket to the SE, then no other party should.

Walkee:
no, blackmail didn't get anyone anything. In 1999, military and northerners wanted Obasanjo, Yorubas didn't even want him. In 2011 Jonathan won because he was already an incumbent and the oppositions was divided. In 2015 Buhari played smart by aligning with ACN and other small small parties. Go and check Buhari's votes since 2003. If ACN, CPC and nPDP didn't work together and build alliance there's no way Buhari would have won.
Jonathan only became president because his boss died not because of militants

Your last line is what I have been hammering. Jonathan presidency was an accidental one as we all know that Yaradua wouldn't have ever supported him to succeed him considering the fact that Yaradua never formally handed over power to Jonathan in any of the numerous instances when he travelled to Saudi Arabia or Germany for medical attention.

Walkee:
was there no Boko Haram in 2011?
Was there no militants in 2015?

The thing tire me o. These people go just dey form stories wey no gel. And na so Dem sabi shift goalpost die.

OfoIgbo:
Haven't you seen the Yoruba god Tinubu, bowing profusely to Buhari?

Didn't you notice your people lick Fulani ass and falling over themselves to vote out the only ever SS president in 2015 in preference for a Fulani dullard and terrorist?

Haven't you noticed that Ilorin, which ought to be a Yoruba territory, is currently led traditionally by a Fulani emir?

Shouldn't the three questions I asked above be a guide as to which ethnic group idolizes the Fulanis in Nigeria?

So the Zik and Okpara who pioneered the idolization of Fulanis in Nigeria by way of rejection of the proposed all-South alliance that would have made he himself the Prime Minister at independence but chose to opt for an East-North alliance which he clearly knew would place him on the position of a slave to the Great grandson of Usman Dan Fodio the foremost Fulani Jihadust were not Igbos? What of Arthur Nzeribe and Uche Chukwumerijie who decided to swim against the popular tide to serve Abacha a Fulani despot and dictator at a time their mates from other tribes took a principled stand against Abacha's monumental and unparalleled misrule in Nigerian history?
You must be a comedian.

Deadlytruth:
Where were Aguiyi Ironsi and Nnamdi Azikiwe from? When will it be the turn of Edos, Urhobos, Isokos, Efiks, Ibibios, etc? Where is the justice in seeking to be president of a country you believe is a zoo? Where is the justice in seeking to rule a country you are asking to exit? Or will they rule Nigeria from an independent Biafra Republic? Where is the justice in carrying out a coup killing political leader of every other region while assisting all their own political leaders escape into safety? What is the fairness in insulting all other tribes continuously for eight years over the electoral defeat of a man who is not even a kinsman of theirs even when the region that owned him only mourned his loss for a year? Is that kind of approach to politics not dangerous to the society?

With due respect, I think your argument is skewed.

At best, ( as I do not have enough strength to re-state the obvious) Kindly allow them, assuming you possess the power to do so, to exit Nigeria. It is as simple as that.

Did you conduct a census to find out the percentage of Igbo people who are abusing other ethnic groups, assuming also that others don't abuse.

Whether you like it or not, your country needs to heal or prepare for continued political instability. I is as simple as that.

I don't have the time to argue the obvious. I believe you already know the truth but are hindered by deep-seated hatred. Looks like the Igbos invaded the whole Northern Nigeria and murdered the entire people. Your sense of history is also poor, and baised.

I think it is Buhari amd APC that divided Nigeria beyond repair. The issue of whether the Igbos deserve the Presidency would have been unnecessarily insignificant were Yar Adua still in power.

Whether you like it or not, this singular issue will disintegrate Nigeria now or in the near future if it is not well handled.

You should be realistic in your orientation and not blinded by ethnic jingoism.

And I re-state my position, the Igbos are a very significant percentage of the population and cannot be sidelined forever. It is not politically intelligent to hand over power to the South West or South South because it is absolutely unstrategic in managing the diversity of the country for long.

Do not look at the voting population as it is grossly misleading; look at the actual human population, compare it with other tribal groups in the country. Forget the balkanisation of the country into the 6 political zones.

And it seems your mind is also clouded by illusions. Have your given an Igbo person power and he/she goes after your people. This is unimaginable hatred of the highest quantity.

You are just blinded by deep-seated hatred, which is heavily repulsive for a person of your intellect (judging by your ability to string a few English words together).

Essence20:
Yeah, they have every right to contest but it's only when they are given the platform that they will have a chance of winning. In the spirit of equity and fairness, it's expected that each of the major geopolitical regions be given a chance to the presidency. Others have had theirs, some even more than once. Last 2105, PDP zoned presidency to the north, reason why their primaries was dominated by northerners only. This zoning is meant to go round and is southeast turn, why are they reluctant to do the needful? Same in APC.

APC's reluctance is built on the
strange and wondrous observation that rather than being up in arms against PDP for the party's decision to throw its 2023 ticket open against the expectation of zoning it exclusively to the Igbos who have willingly slaved for the party amidst suicidal sacrifices, and made lots of enemies for themselves in defense of it for the past 23 years, the Igbos seem not perturbed about this glaring injustice and cold hearted wickedness against them by the PDP.
Now assume that a person who hates you and always wishes you death in addition to making assassination attempts on you now happens to be intentionally ill-treated and seriously injured by your very enemy whom he has always loved unconditionally, then he turns around to arrogantly demand from you a compensation for the ill-treatment he suffered under that enemy of yours without renouncing his hatred for you and acknowledging that he had always loved the wrong person, would you really offer him that compensation? Think about it.

Karlirk:
With due respect, I think your argument is skewed.

At best, ( as I do not have enough strength to re-state the obvious) Kindly allow them, assuming you possess the power to do so, to exit Nigeria. It is as simple as that.

Did you conduct a census to find out the percentage of Igbo people who are abusing other ethnic groups, assuming also that others don't abuse.

Whether you like it or not, your country needs to heal or prepare for continued political instability. I is as simple as that.

I don't have the time to argue the obvious. I believe you already know the truth but are hindered by deep-seated hatred. Looks like the Igbos invaded the whole Northern Nigeria and murdered the entire people. Your sense of history is also poor, and baised.

I think it is Buhari amd APC that divided Nigeria beyond repair. The issue of whether the Igbos deserve the Presidency would have been unnecessarily insignificant were Yar Adua still in power.

Whether you like it or not, this singular issue will disintegrate Nigeria now or in the near future if it is not well handled.

You should be realistic in your orientation and not blinded by ethnic jingoism.

And I re-state my position, the Igbos are a very significant percentage of the population and cannot be sidelined forever. It is not politically intelligent to hand over power to the South West or South South because it is absolutely unstrategic in managing the diversity of the country for long.

Do not look at the voting population as it is grossly misleading; look at the actual human population, compare it with other tribal groups in the country. Forget the balkanisation of the country into the 6 political zones.

And it seems your mind is also clouded by illusions. Have your given an Igbo person power and he/she goes after your people. This is unimaginable hatred of the highest quantity.

You are just blinded by deep-seated hatred, which is heavily repulsive for a person of your intellect (judging by your ability to string a few English words together).

You are either trying to be clever by half or just being plain dishonest. Igbos had always been complaining of injustice against them far before APC was ever born. The average Igbo man's baseless hatred for APC could even make him accuse the party of amalgamation of Nigeria and also blame the party of advising Gowon to go to war with Ojukwu even though the party was yet unknown then. Else how can an educated person say in a public forum with a straight face that Nigeria began to witness division under APC? Were the Northerners' allegations of marginalization under Obasanjo (PDP) evidences of national unity or Uwazurike's secession push under the same PDP? What of centrifugal tendencies like BH, Niger Delta Militancy, Birom versus Fulani raids, the very divisive Sharia agitations, etc which all started right under the PDP?
Injustice in Nigeria started when Igbos as a people chose not to denounce but celebrate the selective killing of the political leaders of all other regions while allowing theirs escape. What you see and complain of today all have their roots in that singular event hence no honest person would expect healing without starting it from the remotest origin of the mutual hatred.
After Mandela got elected into office, he declared that he had on his own personally forgiven those who passed him through his ordeal but that his personal forgiveness for them can never automatically be representative of the feelings of other South Africans who suffered oppression under the Apartheid imperialists and their fifth columnists among indegenous South African, so he set up a truth and reconciliation committee to work on national healing. Note the importance of the word "truth" in the title of the committee. This tells you that no genuine healing ever takes place without looking at the facts and remotest causes of the animosity and punishment for those who committed those acts. Obasanjo's Oputa panel didn't really heal Nigeria in the end because there were no punishment meted out to those who were indicted of those past injustices that were unearthed by the testifying victims unlike that of South Africa by which those found guilty of injustices against innocent politicians or civilians were either punished or left to walk away free depending on what their victims wanted.

Deadlytruth:
Injustice in Nigeria started when Igbos as a people chose not to denounce the selective killing of the political leaders of all other regions while allowing theirs escape. What you see and complain of today all have their roots in that singular event hence no honest person would expect healing without starting it from the remotest origin of the mutual hatred.
After Mandela got elected into office, he declared that he had on his own personally forgiven those who passed him through his ordeal but that his personal forgiveness for them can never automatically be representative of the feelings of other South Africans who suffered oppression under the Apartheid imperialists and their fifth columnists among indegenous South African, so he set up a truth and reconciliation committee to work on national healing. Note the importance of the word "truth" in the title of the committee. This tells you that no genuine healing ever takes place without looking at the facts and remotest causes of the animosity and punishment for those who committed those acts. Obasanjo's Oputa panel didn't really heal Nigeria in the end because there were no punishment meted out to those who were indicted of those past injustices that were unearthed by the testifying victims unlike that of South Africa by which those found guilty of injustices against innocent politicians or civilians were either punished or left to walk away free depending on what their victims wanted.

Which truth and reconciliation committee are you talking about. Was there any truth and reconciliation committee when the Northern power block conspired to murder Abiola, and the Yorubas were compensated in 1999?

Again, healing is both a two way thing. The Igbos who were massacred in their numbers using the instruments of the state would argue they are the victims in all of these.

If no healing can take place then don't you think that these people should be allowed a comfortable exit.

It is wrong for one section of the country to dismiss the ambition of others simply because they control the instruments of the state in the time being.

My point is Nigeria cannot last extra 20 years with this kind of democracy. The world is becoming more sophisticated and alignments and re-alignments are becoming neither here nor there.

Your argument about truth and reconciliation is again skewed because it is very certain who killed the other more.

I am afraid Nigeria is not a sustainable country with your type of adulterated reasoning, even with seeming education.

Not interested in further argument please. When those who shall be responsible for deciding the country’s future take any decisions on 2023, I shall come back to you if it is necessary.

You are practising selective consciousness in the least.

aribisala0:
You people just lie for fun
Answer a simple question if indeed there was a microzoning gentleman's agreement involving Buhari was he a party to it and which zone did he agree to support when he leaves?

Buhari won APC ticket not because of any fictional microzoning but because of his PERSONAL FOLLOWING in the North

Stop all these silly stories

Personal following that made him lose back to back elections from 2003 to 2011 until the stakeholders decided to turn his fortune around in 2015. Where was this Buhari when Yar'adua defeated him in the NW? Had Yar'adua not died early, he would have still defeated Buhari again in 2011 in the same NW. Yes call it rigging, but the Yar'adua structure which he inherited from his late brother was so strong in the north. It's the same Shehu Yar'adua structure that Atiku uses till date although partially snapped by Buhari due to his political arrangement with the Yar'adua family.

No doubt Buhari had his fan base, but that support never made him President until he tweaked it with the formation of the APC which saw influential notherners in the nPDP join him to provide victory against GEJ. For the first time the north central massively canvassed for him all thanks to the retired army Generals in that region, the likes of IBB, Danjuma, Abdulsalami, Dogonyaro, Bali, Gowon etc. The microzoning to the NW saw him win support in the whole north with, heavyweights like Atiku Abubakar from the North East stepping down for him.

Tribal wars might be your forte but when it comes to political analysis you need to learn from your superiors Aribisala.

Deadlytruth:
So the Zik and Okpara who pioneered the idolization of Fulanis in Nigeria by way of rejection of the proposed all-South alliance that would have made he himself the Prime Minister at independence but chose to opt for an East-North alliance which he clearly knew would place him on the position of a slave to the Great grandson of Usman Dan Fodio the foremost Fulani Jihadust were not Igbos? What of Arthur Nzeribe and Uche Chukwumerijie who decided to swim against the popular tide to serve Abacha a Fulani despot and dictator at a time their mates from other tribes took a principled stand against Abacha's monumental and unparalleled misrule in Nigerian history?
You must be a comedian.

So Zik that started off registering in a party founded by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, what do you say about that.

Also Mbazulike Amaechi has already cleared the air on this touted east west alliance. As Awolowo was secretly negotiating with Zik, Awolowo was also negotiating with Ahmadu Bello, all in an attempt to be a smart ass, and double-cross Zik or Bello.

Zik and Bello eventually found out, which was why both men abandoned their individual negotiations with Awolowo and opted to form their own alliance.

So yet again, Awolowo was trying to be smarter than his shadow and lost out.

Anyway, I am still waiting for you people to reel out the sitting southern presidents that Igbos work hard to replace with Fulani presidents.

Yorubas slavishly worked with Fulanis to undermine a southern president in 2015. That record is permanently cast

Igbo Presidency means death to other regional leaders,we don’t want a repeat of 1966.It will be better for Igbos to quit Nigeria if the British will allow them.

Deadlytruth:
All these you mentioned were never about agitation for presidency by the respective groups. Like I said before, while the OPC, Niger Delta Militants, Sharialists, Boko Haram, etc, did all that; they none of them as a group derailed from it into insulting other ethnicities claiming they were responsible for their predicaments and rewriting history against them.
If you can cite an instance where Niger Delta Militants, OPC, Boko Haram, Sharialists, etc ever insulted any other single tribe the way Nnamdi Kanu and Ipobians are known to, then I will change my views.
In fact IPOB's agitation was founded largely on Jonathan's loss and not even really about any of the injustices you lots now accuse Nigeria of against you.
Uwazurike was handling the Igbo agitation sensibly and devoid of insults to other tribes and regions hence was already gathering trans-regional and trans-ethic sympathy and support before Nnamdi Kanu hijacked it and made nonsense of it with his puerile hate campaign and revisionism of history against other tribes and regions. Had Nnamdi Kanu never come into the picture, Uwazurike's style would have made an Igbo man president far before the SS clinched in through Jonathan.

Yes I agree that IPOB agitation was politically feathered and Jonathan loss was just an excuse used to launch tirades against a lot of persons and tribes. I also believe Nnamdi Kanu hijacked genuine Igbo concerns turning it into a demonic scheme against Igbos and non-Igbos alike. Infact the major sufferers of his agitation are Ndigbo. From beating up Ekweremadu to using his thugs to shut oppositions in the south-east. So IPOB on a face level are not fighting for Igbo interest.

Even Uwazuruike too wasn't all about Igbo interest with his MASSOB. Even though he brought to the fore Igbo marginalization, he still used his office to denigrate Ndigbo with scams and mass death on Igbo youths. And even if we agree that MASSOB was genuine, we saw how they were vilified by some ethnic groups who felt threatened by his movement. Despite MASSOB agitation, Igbos got bypassed by the political establishment for the south-south due to the real business of mass destruction and insurgency by the militants.

OfoIgbo:
Then Nigeria as you know it, comes to an end.

The choice is Nigerians. No one is forcing you to vote for the Igbos.
No one will force the Igbos to remain in Nigeria beyond 2023, if an Igboman is not the president.

I know IPOB will even not want an Igbo president come 2023.
This action will unite the IPOB artisans with the upper class of Igbo society.

If an Igboman cannot be the Nigerian president, then an Igboman cannot be a Nigerian. Simple and short.

Lol Yinmu. It won't unite them.

1. Igbo assets are mainly outside the East.
2. Majority live outside the SE and won't want any friction that will jeopardize their livelihood.
3. The SE needs some NigerDelta states to be part of it, for survival, which is impossible.

countryman13:
Is it a lie dt Nigeria is called zoo? Animals are kept in d zoo n we reason n behave like them so what are we? Can a sane person b kidnapping, bombing n killing an innocent people in d name or religion? No now. I have lived among d hausas n equally among d igbos n with all honesty n fairness, d later are far better than d former. Why should u b in d midst of people who ll b waiting for a bad day to rid of whatever u have n finally ur life? It doesnt make sense.

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What took you to the midst of the Hausas and Fulanis? Cowardice?
Why not stay stuck in your South Eastern States? Since your Onitsha or war captured Nnewi and extremely food starved is better than other parts of Nigeria
Hypocrite lots!

Eastlink:
Yes I agree that IPOB agitation was politically feathered and Jonathan loss was just an excuse used to launch tirades against a lot of persons and tribes. I also believe Nnamdi Kanu hijacked genuine Igbo concerns turning it into a demonic scheme against Igbos and non-Igbos alike. Infact the major sufferers of his agitation are Ndigbo. From beating up Ekweremadu to using his thugs to shut oppositions in the south-east. So IPOB on a face level are not fighting for Igbo interest.

Even Uwazuruike too wasn't all about Igbo interest with his MASSOB. Even though he brought to the fore Igbo marginalization, he still used his office to denigrate Ndigbo with scams and mass death on Igbo youths. And even if we agree that MASSOB was genuine, we saw how they were vilified by some ethnic groups who felt threatened by his movement. Despite MASSOB agitation, Igbos got bypassed by the political establishment for the south-south due to the real business of mass destruction and insurgency by the militants.

Could you cite instances of villification of MASSOB and Uwazurike by other ethnicities? If anything, all Nigerians carpeted Obasanjo for arresting and detaining the leader of a peaceful and non-violent secession movement. I particularly began to incurably hate Obasanjo because of that. It was the coming of Kanu and his dishonest historical narratives mixed with insult on other tribes and regions that watered down the concern of other tribes for the Igbo Question.

OfoIgbo:
So Zik that started off registering in a party founded by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, what do you say about that.

Also Mbazulike Amaechi has already cleared the air on this touted east west alliance. As Awolowo was secretly negotiating with Zik, Awolowo was also negotiating with Ahmadu Bello, all in an attempt to be a smart ass, and double-cross Zik or Bello.

Zik and Bello eventually found out, which was why both men abandoned their individual negotiations with Awolowo and opted to form their own alliance.

So yet again, Awolowo was trying to be smarter than his shadow and lost out.

Anyway, I am still waiting for you people to reel out the sitting southern presidents that Igbos work hard to replace with Fulani presidents.

Yorubas slavishly worked with Fulanis to undermine a southern president in 2015. That record is permanently cast

Zik started from NYM and not NCNC. He actually caused a division in NYM thus setting sail the disunity of the South. He then maliciously crossed over to the NCNC and on being about to relinquish leadership of the NCNC he picked an Igbo man like himself as successor rather than pick a Yoruba or aNiger Delta person in furtherance of the Southern Unity spirit in pursuit of which the Yoruba founder and pioneer leader allowed him succeed him.

Azikiwe himself said it in his book "My Odyssey" that his decision to reject the proposed all-South alliance was founded on his belief that an alliance cutting across North and South was better for national unity in addition to being a sacrifice he had to make to keep the North in Nigeria as he had assumed, albeit wrongly, that Northerners would seek to exit Nigeria if their demand for power at independence was not granted. Harold Smith clarified it all in his explanations many years after.
Akintola was the one who went up North to negotiate with Ahmadu Bello and for that he didn't receive any instructions or blessings from Awolowo who was rather in Asaba seeking alliance with Azikiwe in order that the impending dangerous domination of the North over the South might be averted and their born to rule philosophy crushed in the bud. Please recall that even before independence, i.e. in 1957, the colonial overlords had already set up a shadow government with Balewa as prime minister and Akintola having a ministerial portfolio in it hence Akintola was already used to working with Northerners for the filthy lucre of office at the center, so it wasn't unexpected for him to want to continue that way into post independence era even on the altar of sacrificing the interest of his own Yoruba people. In fact Akintola would later make it clear during the Western Region crisis that Awolowo's rejection of an alliance with the North was the root cause of the mutual rivalry between both of them and also responsible for the Yorubas' relegation to opposition status. Akintola hated seeing Igbos and stupidly envied them for being the ones in alliance with Fulanis at the center without knowing that it actually portended danger for them.
If Awolowo actually ever sought alliance with the North while also hypocritically doing so with the East, then why did Zik, four years later, approach him for the UPGA coalition at the time Balewa was offering him the deal of being released from prison on the condition that he buried his quest for East-West coalition for a North-West one?

On the issue of Jonathan, it is not just about having a Southerner as president on seat but about that Southern president pursuing the interest of the South. Jonathan was supported by Yorubas in 2011 when it appeared to them and indeed all Southerners that his candidacy was going to salvage the South from the age-long economic domination by the North. Even myself, a non-Yoruba, had wrongly assumed that as someone from the region hardest hit by the unjust unitary system, Jonathan would do all his humanly possible best to make restructuring a reality. But you and I know that on getting elected, he did exactly the opposite and began to please the North at the expense of the South. Why do you Igbos hate the likes of Joe Igbokwe, Okorocha, Hope Uzodinma, Kalu etc and would never support their presidential ambitions? Isn't it because they are obviously doing the biddings of Northerners despite being your fellow Igbos?
And didn't Festus Odimegwu campaign viciously against Jonathan? Didn't Ogbulafor resist the idea of Jonathan contesting at all in 2011?

Above all, there is actually nothing like Southern president given the fact that Azikiwe had long ago shattered Southern unity at independence. So what we have is the North aligning with the old Eastern Region against Yorubas or aligning with Yorubas against the old Eastern Region. Igbos aligned with Northerners to prevent Abiola from being inaugurated despite having won a free and fair presidential election and that record is cast too.

Deadlytruth:
APC's reluctance is built on the
strange and wondrous observation that rather than being up in arms against PDP for the party's decision to throw its 2023 ticket open against the expectation of zoning it exclusively to the Igbos who have willingly slaved for the party amidst suicidal sacrifices, and made lots of enemies for themselves in defense of it for the past 23 years, the Igbos seem not perturbed about this glaring injustice and cold hearted wickedness against them by the PDP.
Now assume that a person who hates you and always wishes you death in addition to making assassination attempts on you now happens to be intentionally ill-treated and seriously injured by your very enemy whom he has always loved unconditionally, then he turns around to arrogantly demand from you a compensation for the ill-treatment he suffered under that enemy of yours without renouncing his hatred for you and acknowledging that he had always loved the wrong person, would you really offer him that compensation? Think about it.

Igbos do not hate APC, so there's no need of renouncing any hatred. The fact that PDP had a strong hold in southeast doesn't mean Igbos hate APC. APC is gaining massive support in SE as the year go by: 2 states out of 5 in SE are controlled by APC, so where is the hatred? Moreover this is no more about party affiliations, it's about doing all that's necessary to keep Nigeria one.