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Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 2:27pm On Feb 20, 2022
ChocolateWine:
So your acclaimed exposure video is spoon feeding others? You see say foolishness has blocked your sense.
Summarizing a video that you can simply watch by yourself is spoon feeding.

Why the insults?

E be like say the thing de pain you well well.

Lol.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:29pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
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force or oblige (someone) to do something.

bring about (something) by the use of force or pressure.
"they may compel a witness's attendance at court by issue of a summons"


No JWs, I repeat, nobody was "forced or pressured/compelled to write anything to the Russian Government.

Achorladey DECEIVING himself
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I don tell you before when using giving meaning to my words don't give me one sense of it.

COMPEL..........


force or oblige (someone) to do something.
"a sense of duty compelled Harry to answer her questions"
synonyms: force, coerce into, pressurize into, pressure, impel, drive, press, push, urge, prevail on, dragoon into, browbeat into, bully into, bludgeon into, intimidate into, terrorize into, oblige, require, put under an obligation, leave someone no option but to, make, bulldoze, railroad, steamroller, twist someone's arm, strong-arm, lean on, put the screws on, constrain, exact, extort, demand, insist on, enforce, necessitate.

Learn and stop peddling deception and at least your response shows there many ways to go about what we are discussing here it is not about carrying PLACARDS grin grin grin

WERE you and your fellow Jehovah’s witnesses urge to write or not to write. Those letters were read repeatedly and you go about writing it explained paapaa.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:36pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
Why has Achorladey refused to go back to the laws of Moses and continue animal sacrifices?
Publications are your magazines, books e.t.c.

Animal sacrifices no be books, Bible is not animal sacrifices.

Now see what the Bible you carry states....

For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction,+ so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.


But in the case of your publication you said DON'T go back there. You were agitating always going back to it.

You even added they are ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.


I no blame you na to call others and peddle NO GET SENSE on nairaland cause am grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 2:37pm On Feb 20, 2022
achorladey:
When the Bible they carry says Jesus is the way the truth and life. To Jehovah’s witnesses

The organization is the way, the truth and the life.

This is what many had been taught right from childhood up till adulthood all their life built around the organization. Imagine when 80 - 85 % of your business partners are members of this religious organization and you choose to leave the organisation. Your business will collapse immediately because they will all stop having to do business with you. Imagine the fear that will cause to a person who choose that path. grin grin grin

He will rather remain and keep mute or just nod his head in agreement to whatever they say and belief while dying inside everyday grin grin grin

That many leave and commit suicide should give you an hint of what it is to leave the organization. grin grin grin
You're right o. Chai... grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 2:39pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Hahahahahaha

Which Jesus?

So you really believe that Jesus is the one backing your CULT?

The same CULT that cannot teach one version of "TRUTH"?

Abi is TRUTH not supposed to be a constant?

Lol.


The same Jesus WHO allegedly investigated your organization/CULT in 1919?

The same Jesus who will not be able to recognize your organization/CULT today because what you taught in 1919 is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what you teach today?

Oga, go and research the history of your religion/CULT.

But FEAR will not allow you.
Oga, you don't know what truth is.

I challenge you provide evidence to this forum that Jesus Christ performed animal sacrifices his Father approved in the old testament.

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Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 2:42pm On Feb 20, 2022
achorladey:
Publications are your magazines, books e.t.c.

Animal sacrifices no be books, Bible is not animal sacrifices.

Now see what the Bible you carry states....

For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction,+ so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.


But in the case of your publication you said DON'T go back there. You were agitating always going back to it.

You even added they are ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.


I no blame you na to call others and peddle NO GET SENSE on nairaland. grin grin
Lol...this your koboko dey wicked o . Abeg take it easy with that guy (Janosky) , because he's already foaming at the mouth with anger and frustration grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 2:46pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
Oga, you don't know what truth is.

I challenge you provide evidence to this forum that Jesus Christ performed animal sacrifices his Father approved in the old testament
.
Lol.

Of course, my definition of truth is very different from yours.

Yours is bound to change under the guise of "new light".

Read your bible and find the answers for yourself.

Where did I mention that Jesus performed animal sacrifices?

It is in your teachings that Jesus in 1919, after inspecting all the religions in the world, found only yours to be the one true religion.

But it is a FACT that the doctrines your organization was teaching at 1919 - which was the doctrine He (Jesus) used to select your organization as the one true religion is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what you teach today.

So are you now calling Jesus confused?
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:48pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
Lol...this your koboko dey wicked o . Abeg take it easy with that guy (Janosky) , because he's already foaming at the mouth with anger and frustration grin

Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 2:49pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Lol.

Of course, my definition of truth is very different from yours.

Yours is bound to change under the guise of "new light".

Read your bible and find the answers for yourself.

Where did I mention that Jesus performed animal sacrifices?

It is in your teachings that Jesus in 1919, after inspecting all the religions in the world, found only yours to be the one true religion.

But it is a FACT that the doctrines your organization was teaching at 1919 - which was the doctrine He (Jesus) used to select your organization as the one true religion is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what you teach today.

So are you now calling Jesus confused?
The bolded nearly made my ribs start cracking with laughter . Wallahi ,the JW cult needs a serious overhauling . grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:49pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Lol.

Of course, my definition of truth is very different from yours.

Yours is bound to change under the guise of "new light".

Read your bible and find the answers for yourself.

Where did I mention that Jesus performed animal sacrifices?

It is in your teachings that Jesus in 1919, after inspecting all the religions in the world, found only yours to be the one true religion.

But it is a FACT that the doctrines your organization was teaching at 1919 - which was the doctrine He (Jesus) used to select your organization as the one true religion is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what you teach today.

So are you now calling Jesus confused?
He wants to DIVERT and corner the discussion into something else.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 2:51pm On Feb 20, 2022
achorladey:
Publications are your magazines, books e.t.c.

Animal sacrifices no be books, Bible is not animal sacrifices.

Now see what the Bible you carry states....

For all the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction,+ so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.


But in the case of your publication you said DON'T go back there. You were agitating always going back to it.

You even added they are ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.


I no blame you na to call others and peddle NO GET SENSE on nairaland cause am grin grin
Achorladey post:
For all the [b]things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction"


Achorladey, are you doing the instruction of animal sacrifices?
Is Achorladey obeying the instruction of Romans 15:4?


What a Deceptive man! grin cheesy
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 2:52pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
The bolded nearly made my ribs start cracking with laughter . Wallahi ,the JW cult needs a serious overhauling . grin grin grin
3 deities devotees DECEIVING himself.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 2:54pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
3 deities devotees DECEIVING himself.
That's what my bible said o. Unlike your cult that says Jesus is angel Michael in disguise. And he came in 1919 secretly to observe his church grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:54pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
The bolded nearly made my ribs start cracking with laughter . Wallahi ,the JW cult needs a serious overhauling . grin grin grin
You too see am like that. grin grin.

Now all those things that Jesus used to select them as the only religious organization on earth doing GOD'S WILL he himself said are

ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.

Is that not a case of saying his organization being the only religious organization on earth doing GOD'S WILL is irrelevant, archaic and to be mocked. grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 2:56pm On Feb 20, 2022
achorladey:
You too see am like that. grin grin.

Now all those things that Jesus used to select them as the only religious organization on earth doing GOD'S WILL he himself said are

ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.

Is that not a case of saying his organization being the only religious organization on earth doing GOD'S WILL is irrelevant, archaic and to be mocked. grin grin
You're right brother . More wisdom to you .grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 2:58pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
Achorladey post:
For all the [b]things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction"


Achorladey, are you doing the instruction of animal sacrifices?
Is Achorladey obeying the instruction of Romans 15:4?


What a Deceptive man! grin cheesy
They were instructions given to give hope to reader. In your meetings you still study those things as instructions of how God dealt with people in times past.


But you said we shouldn't go back to your previous publications cheesy grin grin

No dey bring animal sacrifice come here. The discussion was not about animal sacrifices.

And Jesus even added among all the laws and prophets is based on love God and neighbour. He wants to divert the discussion into something else. grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 3:02pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
The bolded nearly made my ribs start cracking with laughter . Wallahi ,the JW cult needs a serious overhauling . grin grin grin
Lol.

It is funny but very serious - This is their single most powerful argument for saying that they are the one true religion/God's organization.

MANY people have lived and died without knowing the true history of this organization/CULT

Even their Founder, Pastor Charles Taze Russell, if he were alive today would have been KICKED OUT of the organization/CULT because what they teach today is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what he was teaching many years ago.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 3:05pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Lol.

Of course, my definition of truth is very different from yours.

Yours is bound to change under the guise of "new light".

Read your bible and find the answers for yourself.

Where did I mention that Jesus performed animal sacrifices?
You made a claim of Truth is constant.
Is animal sacrifices the truth of the holy Scriptures?
Did Jesus Christ practice the constant truth of animal sacrifices?

oteneaaron:
It is in your teachings that Jesus in 1919, after inspecting all the religions in the world, found only yours to be the one true religion.

But it is a FACT that the doctrines your organization was teaching at 1919 - which was the doctrine He (Jesus) used to select your organization as the one true religion is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what you teach today.

So are you now calling Jesus confused?
4 questions for Oteneaaron and his crew of 3 deities devotees and atheists:
Did Jesus Christ teach & approved all the doctrines of the old testament?

Is animal sacrifices the truth of the holy Scriptures?
Did Jesus Christ practice such?
Is Jesus Christ confused he did not do it?

His Father approved of an eye for an eye.
John 7:16 & John 15:15,Did Jesus Christ learn the practice of an eye for an eye in the old testament from his Father?
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 3:06pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
That's what my bible said o. Unlike your cult that says Jesus is angel Michael in disguise. And he came in 1919 secretly to observe his church grin
The Jesus dey read in their Bible one of them said return [b]SPIRITUALLY in 1914[/b].

I laugh tire grin grin grin grin grin

When I asked them when Jesus said he will be with them in Matthew 28:19 - 20. Was it physically or spiritually? the person japa. He knew when someone had been with some spiritually all this while, it cannot be said the person returned spiritually to that person again. grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by ChocolateWine(f): 3:08pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Summarizing a video that you can simply watch by yourself is spoon feeding.

Why the insults?

E be like say the thing de pain you well well.

Lol.
I know say na attention wey you dey find. I have given you enough, that should last you for awhile until the urge comes again.....I dash you, enjoy
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 3:09pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Lol.

It is funny but very serious - This is their single most powerful argument for saying that they are the one true religion/God's organization.

MANY people have lived and died without knowing the true history of this organization/CULT

Even their Founder, Pastor Charles Taze Russell, if he were alive today would have been KICKED OUT of the organization/CULT because what they teach today is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what he was teaching many years ago.
No be lie.

Imagine the same Pastor Russell the seventh messenger of the gospel age that his books are as good as APOSTATE materials to be burned and destroyed.

He will change mouth now. grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 3:12pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
Lol.

It is funny but very serious - This is their single most powerful argument for saying that they are the one true religion/God's organization.

MANY people have lived and died without knowing the true history of this organization/CULT

Even their Founder, Pastor Charles Taze Russell, if he were alive today would have been KICKED OUT of the organization/CULT because what they teach today is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what he was teaching many years ago.
...but how sure are you he'd be kicked out today ? According to what I read , he was just a disgruntled member of a Presbyterian church who didn't sit well with the elders at the time . So in order to have a breakaway, he formed his own cult and made them believe in what was contrary to the bible and it's teachings . He even made some of his followers believe that Christ started reigning in heaven in 1874 . cheesy but his followers would later recanted that to mean 1919
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 3:14pm On Feb 20, 2022
ChocolateWine:
I know say na attention wey you dey find. I have given you enough, that should last you for awhile until the urge comes again.....I dash you, enjoy
Lol.

Which attention?

Kai this thing pain you well well.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Ammishaddai: 3:15pm On Feb 20, 2022
grin
achorladey:
The Jesus dey read in their Bible one of them said return [b]SPIRITUALLY in 1914[/b].

I laugh tire grin grin grin grin grin

When I asked them when Jesus said he will be with them in Matthew 28:19 - 20. Was it physically or spiritually? the person japa. He knew when someone had been with some spiritually all this while, it cannot be said the person returned spiritually to that person again. grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 3:15pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
3 deities devotees DECEIVING himself.
Those DEITIES you equally call DOGHEADS and those DOGHEADS you equally know them as Father, Son and the Holy spirit and argue with these same people you say are THREE DEITIES worshipers.

Jehovah will airpyou grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 3:19pm On Feb 20, 2022
Janosky:
You made a claim of Truth is constant.
Is animal sacrifices the truth of the holy Scriptures?
Did Jesus Christ practice the constant truth of animal sacrifices?


4 questions for Oteneaaron and his crew of 3 deities devotees and atheists:
Did Jesus Christ teach & approved all the doctrines of the old testament?

Is animal sacrifices the truth of the holy Scriptures?
Did Jesus Christ practice such?
Is Jesus Christ confused he did not do it?

His Father approved of an eye for an eye.
John 7:16 & John 15:15,Did Jesus Christ learn the practice of an eye for an eye in the old testament from his Father?
So what are you driving at?

Are you honestly trying to justify your 1919 doctrine?

This is interesting.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by oteneaaron(op): 3:21pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
...but how sure are you he'd be kicked out today ? According to what I read , he was just a disgruntled member of a Presbyterian church who didn't sit well with the elders at the time . So in order to have a breakaway, he formed his own cult and made them believe in what was contrary to the bible and it's teachings . He even made some of his followers believe that Christ started reigning in heaven in 1874 . cheesy but his followers would later recanted that to mean 1919
Well, you do have a point tho.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Feb 20, 2022
ChocolateWine:
I know say na attention wey you dey find. I have given you enough, that should last you for awhile until the urge comes again.....I dash you, enjoy
oteneaaron:
In this little write-up, these terms would have their meaning in Context as follows:

GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)



WHO CREATED GOD??

Its no wonder that when you ask he above question to any religious minded person and you're gonna get differing answers.

Ask any creationist : "What is the proof that Man was created ? " , "how do we know that life and all there is had a designer?"

And we receive this reply that -- Man and all there is are intelligent creatures ; the human brain, the universe in general attest to the fact that everything was created by a Supreme Being...

*Please note the argument - an intelligent creation must have an intelligent designer-

So here is the correlation, If you seriously believe that "nothing came from nothing" and there has to be an explanation for our "intelligence",
then GOD must have been created too!!!

WHY?

"GOD" exists and he is very ( if not too Intelligent---common, he's GOD!!).....so what is the explanation for his Intelligencehuhhuh??

If the world as we know it attests to fact of the existence of a creator, then that creator must have been created because HE(GOD) bears the same (proof of an Intelligent creator) Qualities.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we were perplexed as to how the universe was sparse and awe-inspiring, we had to give credit to -someone- so we invented GOD

When were Scared because we felt or experience disappointment, death, sickness..etc, we needed Solace and we created GOD to blame and to beg for assistance

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD


Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!
Jesus said:

Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ Matthew 10:5-7

We are in search of people who supposed to be part of the house of faith not unbelievers, that's why we shouldn't pay undue attention to faithless miscreants! Matthew 7:6 smiley
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 3:23pm On Feb 20, 2022
achorladey:
They were instructions given to give hope to reader. In your meetings you still study those things as instructions of how God dealt with people in times past.


But you said we shouldn't go back to your previous publications cheesy grin grin

No dey bring animal sacrifice come here. The discussion was not about animal sacrifices.

And Jesus even added among all the laws and prophets is based on love God and neighbour. He wants to divert the discussion into something else. grin grin grin
Oga,go back to animal sacrifices and continue the practice because animal sacrifices give you hope.
grin grin cheesy grin grin

You and your crew of atheists and 3 deities Polytheists brought up this discussion you label "old light and new light" to mock JWs.
Therefore, the reference to animal sacrifices is spot on & relevant!
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 3:23pm On Feb 20, 2022
Ammishaddai:
...but how sure are you he'd be kicked out today ? According to what I read , he was just a disgruntled member of a Presbyterian church who didn't sit well with the elders at the time . So in order to have a breakaway, he formed his own cult and made them believe in what was contrary to the bible and it's teachings . He even made some of his followers believe that Christ started reigning in heaven in 1874 . cheesy but his followers would later recanted that to mean 1919
Simple, anyone that goes against or fail to accept what the 8 religious men leading the organisation today states.......

Will be kicked out, it is in the policies and procedures used by the religious organization.

Rolf Furuli was one of the leading members who defend the chronology used in stating that Jesus returned in 1914.

The same Rolf Furuli had been kicked out of the organization when he published a book and sent a copy to the 8 religious men he had been defending all this while.
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by achorladey: 3:27pm On Feb 20, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:

Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’ Matthew 10:5-7

We are in search of people who supposed to be part of the house of faith not unbelievers, that's why we shouldn't pay undue attention to faithless miscreants! Matthew 7:6 smiley
Na to pick out HYPOCRITES you sabi and look others with suspicion....

We are in search of people who supposed to be part of the house of faith not unbelievers, that's why we shouldn't pay undue attention to faithless miscreants! Matthew 7:6
Here you are earlier....

Thanks OP for confirming that the JWs are the true believers in Christ Jesus!
What are you doing here?

A. Undue ATTENTION

B. Due ATTENTION

C. Validation of your religious organization based on words of hopeless and useless Apostates and ATHEISTS attention.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Witnesses Of Jehovah - A Documentary by Janosky: 3:32pm On Feb 20, 2022
oteneaaron:
So what are you driving at?

Are you honestly trying to justify your 1919 doctrine?

This is interesting.
John 15:15, did Jesus Christ learn animal sacrifices from his God and Father?
Because Jesus Christ did not practice animal sacrifices invalidate the truth of the doctrine?

Oga, how many teeth you get when you were born?

Is it a wrong you were born without teeth? grin grin



Oga, your answer to the 4 questions is relevant.
doctrines of the old testament?
Is animal sacrifices the truth of the holy Scriptures?
Did Jesus Christ practice such?
Is Jesus Christ confused he did not do it?

His Father approved of an eye for an eye.
John 7:16 & John 15:15,Did Jesus Christ learn the practice of an eye for an eye in the old testament from his Father?

Your motley crew of atheists and 3 deities Polytheists brought up what you termed "old light and new light".
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