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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:11pm On Feb 21, 2022
olugabbie:


I have nothing against democracy. I believe Russia will do the same thing that the US is doing right now if she is the sole dominant power in the world. Like China. They may even be worse. So i am strictly against unipolarism. The world is too big to have one master. The world needs masters. These masters will checkmates themselves and the world will be a better place.

The world doesn't have one master, the world as it is today with so much information and evolution is too big to have one master.

I may be wrong sha but it is how I see it

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by 27Pushing30: 11:11pm On Feb 21, 2022
Mooh247:
That is what happens when a former KGB , MI6 or CIA agent becomes a President .. unlike US voting the likes of Joe Biden and Buffon Trump

Putin would never invade under a Trump presidency

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by olugabbie(m): 11:12pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:


Thank you and no hard feelings. I am always open to different intellectual thoughts because life is beautiful because we don't always think alike and I respect that.
I can never know it all and I will always take corrections and learn where necessary.

Thank you and have a blessed week ahead.

I love constructive argue and that is what you gave me. I argue to learn and i have learnt few things today from you. Do have a great night!

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Slimjim6969(m): 11:14pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this
it's obvious you don't know international politics

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:15pm On Feb 21, 2022
Slimjim6969:
it's obvious you don't know international politics

I know it more than you do dude undecided

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by useni1: 11:15pm On Feb 21, 2022
sanpipita:


Lol all this energy still won't make you consider Russia over USA, go and live under Putin if you love him so much
You are too brain damage to see the world is moving away from vagabond america. Welcome to China's century

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Mooh247: 11:16pm On Feb 21, 2022
27Pushing30:


Putin would never invade under a Trump presidency

Because he had Trump under control as his stooge and elected puppet... Or have you forgotten Russian hackers influence on Trump's victory

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by sanpipita(m): 11:17pm On Feb 21, 2022
useni1:
You are too brain damage to see the world is moving away from vagabond america. Welcome to China's century

Lol is it now China you prefer? best of luck

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Slimjim6969(m): 11:17pm On Feb 21, 2022
All Putin want is to ensure Ukraine Neva part of NATO.the guy smart sha
olugabbie:
Russia's President Vladimir Putin is to recognise breakaway regions of Ukraine, the Kremlin says
He told the French and German leaders of his plans in a phone call, saying he would sign a decree.
The Russian President has ignored the warning of sanctions by the West and will recognise the independence of two self-declared breakaway regions this evening.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by sanpipita(m): 11:19pm On Feb 21, 2022
EgusiShankly:
NATO and the U.S were deceived.

Ukraine and other former Soviet territories was the target

I don't want to believe they were deceived, all this was clear as daylight, Russia are on expansionisy move, they won't stop till they take chokehold of Ukraine and other parts of eastern Europe
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by ManirBK: 11:20pm On Feb 21, 2022
Hanibbal:


As in that Putin knows the game well well. He is very smart. Always outsmarting the West. He used the threat of invasion to distract them meanwhile those region trying to break away is what he had plans for. Sai Putin grin
ya abin yake ne?
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by foleskay(m): 11:22pm On Feb 21, 2022
useni1:
Coward America is playing with fire and fire will burn America
Shatap.you don't knw politics.which fire want burn d mighty usa.bfore any fire could consume d usa..more than half of world'spopulation would hv been consumed by fire. Ask russia wetin hitler do them. undecided

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Appleyard(m): 11:22pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:

Declaring Luhansk and Donetsk a territory under Ukraine is already an invasion don't be naive.
It is going to be a world war crisis because he will go after other USSR former territories he needs to be stopped now.If the west sanctions Russian oligarchs that use money for war and not her economy Russia will lose.
You are the one sounding a bit naive here cool. By your insinuations, you mean that assuming Nigeria or Brazil decided for one or two political reasons to recognized the breakaway Luhansk and Donetsk regions, they have invaded the Ukraine. cool You sound real funny.

Yes, it is going to be a world war crisis if NATO don't stop its expansionism into East of Europe, which Russia consider as its sphere of influence. Yes, by right, these countries should be free to chose whom they want to align with, and such right of association shouldn't be limited by anyone. But that can only work in saner climes. In the reality of the world we live in where competing great powers are involved, some nations can't just make certain decisions notwithstanding its for their own interest. If the USA won't and did not tolerate Soviet missiles in Cuba (the Cuban missiles crisis that almost led to a nuclear world war), what makes you think that Russia would sit idly and tolerate nations like Ukraine that borders it to become NATO members and host NATO missiles (a military bloc that sees Russia as its primary enemy)? This is what is called 'realpolitiks'. As long as Russia and NATO is involved, countries like Ukraine, Georgia etc, can never be allowed to join NATO. That's the sad reality of some nations sharing borders with competing great powers.

The US/NATO are not handicapped they just don't want to be interventionist anymore so they are trying to be diplomatic.
What! The US and NATO trying not to be interventionist anymore but diplomatic? This shows you're just being emotionally ignorant of the realities on ground. The US is the chief architect of the turmoil that Ukraine is experiencing today. Lmao. This is an open secret; from the 2014 coup that overthrow Yanukovich to the US grand plot to establish a nuclear first-strike/advantage over Russia with Ukraine as the missing puzzle for actualizing that plan, vis-a-vis Russia declaring Ukraine as a RED LINE means the country will forever be an unfortunate swinging wedge between the two great powers. Actually, the US is handicapped here because aside from sanctions, which has lost that bearing with reality, there is nothing it can do if Russia invade or recognize the breakaway regions. BTW, you really make me laugh saying the US and NATO are no longer interventionists....that is exactly what they specialized in for the past two decades. cool

Please stop talking out of point Putin wants the USSR stop sympathizing with the cause of a dictator if Putin wants respect he should respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and embrace the fact that the USSR is dead.
How many times must you repeat this childish narrative of Putin wanting the USSR back? Yes, Putin, like many other analysts regretted the collapse of the Soviet Union because in spite of its shortcomings, the existence of the USSR ensures that there is a checkmate of excesses and a balance of power between the great powers. Imagine if the USSR was around, it's possible that your crazy US government under Bush wouldn't have been so courageous in fabricating lies that Iraq has weapons of mass destructions, which they never did, but for which they invaded the country and torn it to shreds till this day. Ask yourself, how many dictators in the world have done half of what the US did to countless nations like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Nicaragua, Panama, Vietnam, Laos, Sudan, Serbia, and many more? All done with sheer disregard for UN resolution forbidden such atrocious interventions and invasions. Don't you think the US led NATO disregarding UN resolutions to invade countries fits this your dictatorship description too? cool

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by yungmill(m): 11:31pm On Feb 21, 2022
useni1:
all propaganda. Communism is the last hope for humanity. May communism never be denied us


Tell us one country in this world that marxism has worked? Ignorance is truly bliss.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Appleyard(m): 11:31pm On Feb 21, 2022
sanpipita:


He did mention legacy of the Soviet Union being squandered, and all these posturing you people do here, you will still pick USA and Canada before considering living in Russia
Anybody that reason this way as you do now isn't worth any consideration in matters of international analytical disputes. That I condemn Israeli armed forces for killing unarmed Palestinians teens and forcefully ejecting Palestinians from their homes and replaced them with Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank doesn't mean I love to live in Palestine. It's only kids and irrational thinkers that reason as such. We stand for what is right and condemn what is wrong. If living the American life means supporting murders, coups, and calling black white and white black, then that is yours to live; not mine.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by JOemmy(m): 11:33pm On Feb 21, 2022
seunny4lif:

Tell me another story


This pictures are really very strange is it a coincidence or what?
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by tamdun: 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:

You are just a clown.Stick to the issue at hand if you so much love Russia go there the west and it's allies are not the ones threatening the peace of the world so explain to me how Putin drumming the beats of war is the fault of the west?
The guy posted the list of countries us have invaded and u ignored the fact but want us to believe that Russia are the bad guys?

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by anonymous1759(m): 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
dermmy:


What's wrong with Communism and Socialism as modes of production?

You think Communism/Socialism has connection with dictatorship? As if Capitalism is not evil. I know you don't have enough info that's why you reason this way.

You haven't read that democratic Communist regimes have existed in the past but they were truncated by the instrumentality of the America's CIA because uncle SAM saw them as threat to it own Capitalist sphere of influence.

Have you read about Salvadore Allende the democratically elected Communist president of Chile? That was toppled by the CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator known as Augusto Rusto Pinochet? CIA helped Pinochet to surpress dissent and he killed hundreds of thousands in that country.

What of Jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala. He was a true democrat but was toppled by CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator. That CIA coup in Guatemala led to a chain of events that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in that country.

Those were capitalist regimes that U.S. installed so please what is wrong with Communism? As if capitalism has not had its own share of dictatorship and evil.

Fidel Castro started well in Cuba he was a free and nice gentleman but when U.S. started invading Cuba and using Cubans to plot assasinations against his life he had to change his ways and became dictatorial so as to instill fear into the people even at that the U.S. did not stop CIA tried his life over 600 times and failed.

During the cold war years those communist countries were on their own jejely while U.S. was using CIA to forment trouble in them. Unseating the weak ones who choosed to be democratic.


Educate those brainwashed Zombies I don’t have strength to explain anything to anyone. I’m just here to read sensible comments.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by addictiv(m): 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
1. Democracy and Capitalism are Interdependent
2. Nobody has the right to tell any country the type of system its citizens should be practicing.
3. The west is no saint, they have committed worse atrocities and nobody is holding them accountable. I would say over 60% of the problems we have today were caused by them.
4. Russia doesn't care about western opinion only Russian interest.
5. If and when Putin invades Ukraine, the west would only complain but won't take any decisive action against Russia.
6. There cant be only one big dog, we need several big dogs to have a balanced society.
7. Russia is better off opening up and adopting a commonwealth-like system and creating new allies instead of trying to resurrect an old USSR and have them all called Russia, They need fresh blood. Africa and Asia can be a good start, they should take a page from the playbook from the Chinese.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by pansophist(m): 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
I don't blame Putin. Ukraine allowed themselves to be a pun in the geopolitical game between the west and Russia. And instead of Russia to accept defeat, they shall sacrifice Ukraine for it.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by sanpipita(m): 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
Appleyard:
Anybody that reason this way as you do now isn't worth any consideration in matters of international analytical disputes. That I condemn Israeli armed forces for killing unarmed Palestinians teens and forcefully ejecting Palestinians from their homes and replaced them with Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank doesn't mean I love to live in Palestine. It's only kids and irrational thinkers that reason as such. We stand for what is right and condemn what is wrong. If living the American life means supporting murders, coups, and calling black white and white black, then that is yours to live; not mine.

I didn't ask you to tell me what you condemn or not, and since you believe Trudeau and co are dictators, why are you not condemning Putin and his bullying of Ukraine

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by 11doubledee: 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:


I am not into your silly propaganda if you so much love Russia or do not value democracy you can be on your next flight to Russia and worship the Stalins and Lenins of this world.
Some of them just hate America's guts, that's all.
The freedom and opportunities the US offers is far more than Russia and China combined.
How I wish the US can just sit back and fold their arms for some people to learn the hard way. But I trust them, they won't.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Swissgoldtrader(f): 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:


Go and listen to Putin's speech.
Stop sympathising with dictator Putin, Ukraine is an independent state to decide what it wants Putin is loathing why the USSR broke and does not believe in their rights to independence it is not about NATO he wants the soviet union.

If Russia was so good and kept to the part of their agreement former USSR states will not want to align with the west or NATO.


His been denied US visa too many times ... he hatred for US defies logic so no need to banter with him. You aren’t the VO responsible for his manic depression Abeg!!!

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:37pm On Feb 21, 2022
tamdun:

The guy posted the list of countries us have invaded and u ignored the fact but want us to believe that Russia are the bad guys?
Did I defend the US?is the topic about US invasion or Russian invasion that is currently threatening world peace and you don't need to believe it it is not important and yes Russia are the bad guys in this case regardless of what you believe

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by sanpipita(m): 11:37pm On Feb 21, 2022
tamdun:

The guy posted the list of countries us have invaded and u ignored the fact but want us to believe that Russia are the bad guys?

Russia are the bad guys here, thought they said they have no plans to invade Ukraine? what's happening now?

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by pansophist(m): 11:40pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:


He is not smart you people should wake up it was never about NATO.

Putin wants the soviet union back and if he gets Ukraine he is coming for other former states of the USSR.

If the US and its allies don't respond swiftly and stop deceiving themselves about diplomacy Putin is going to invade sovereign nations because he does not believe in their right to exist that is dictatorship nobody should laud this

Only western media parade this nonsense that Putin wants the ussr back. Its a lie. All was good before February 2014 when the democratically elected president was overthrown by the CIA backed coup, installing a puppet leader that is answerable to Washington.

No matter how much you spin and spread the return of soviet Union lie, you can't point to any proof of Russian aggression before Feb 2014. Listen to broad news network not just western media.

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Masterito(m): 11:40pm On Feb 21, 2022
You obviously like to talk rubbish.
useni1:
Coward America is playing with fire and fire will burn America
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:40pm On Feb 21, 2022
11doubledee:

Some of them just hate America's guts, that's all.
The freedom and opportunities the US offers is far more than Russia and China combined.
How I wish the US can just sit back and fold their arms for some people to learn the hard way. But I trust them, they won't.
I agree that America is no saint and some disagree with their power and they call them imperialist and what have you but I will prefer the west, democracy the so-called imperialism over that of Russia and China even when I say this they will say that I am swallowing propaganda like as if there is anything to admire about the leaders of Russia, China and North Korea

Swissgoldtrader:



His been denied US visa too many times ... he hatred for US defies logic so no need to banter with him. You aren’t the VO responsible for his manic depression Abeg!!!
Lol grin grin

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Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Masterito(m): 11:41pm On Feb 21, 2022
Did you read the concerns and request Putin forward to US and NATO? If no, go and read before saying trash.
pansophist:


Only western media parade this nonsense that Putin wants the ussr back. Its a lie. All was good before February 2014 when the democratically elected president was overthrown by the CIA backed coup, installing a puppet leader that is answerable to Washington.

No matter how much you spin and spread the return of soviet Union lie, you can't point to ant proof of Russian aggression before Feb 2014. Listen to broad news network not just western media.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by yungmill(m): 11:41pm On Feb 21, 2022
dermmy:


What's wrong with Communism and Socialism as modes of production?

You think Communism/Socialism has connection with dictatorship? As if Capitalism is not evil. I know you don't have enough info that's why you reason this way.

You haven't read that democratic Communist regimes have existed in the past but they were truncated by the instrumentality of the America's CIA because uncle SAM saw them as threat to it own Capitalist sphere of influence.

Have you read about Salvadore Allende the democratically elected Communist president of Chile? That was toppled by the CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator known as Augusto Rusto Pinochet? CIA helped Pinochet to surpress dissent and he killed hundreds of thousands in that country.

What of Jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala. He was a true democrat but was toppled by CIA and replaced with a ruthless Capitalist dictator. That CIA coup in Guatemala led to a chain of events that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives in that country.

Those were capitalist regimes that U.S. installed so please what is wrong with Communism? As if capitalism has not had its own share of dictatorship and evil.

Fidel Castro started well in Cuba he was a free and nice gentleman but when U.S. started invading Cuba and using Cubans to plot assasinations against his life he had to change his ways and became dictatorial so as to instill fear into the people even at that the U.S. did not stop CIA tried his life over 600 times and failed.

During the cold war years those communist countries were on their own jejely while U.S. was using CIA to forment trouble in them. Unseating the weak ones who choosed to be democratic.


All these neo marxists, seems its only propaganda you read! No Marxist ideology has ever worked and all were facist so study more before you speak.
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by OMYKROIN: 11:42pm On Feb 21, 2022
seunny4lif:

You know nothing
You want me to believe Russia is the problem right?
Tell that to those countries the USA have destroyed.

If you are not a head slammer, my left yash...
Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by Masterito(m): 11:42pm On Feb 21, 2022
Putin is certainly doesn't want a fight, no one wants it.
seunny4lif:
Now, if Ukraine try to use military force, they will face the same thing that Georgia military faced in 2008.
Putin calls Ukrainian territories as “a gift from the Bolsheviks”
Lenin created the mess but Putin will fix it now

The battle of Helm's Deep is over; the battle for Middle Earth is about to begin."

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