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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:45pm On Feb 24, 2022
wirinet:
So what do you suggest Biden do? Send troops to Ukraine or attack Russia?
How about an actual de-escalation that would have prevented all these. Weeks ago same Biden was pumping Ukraine and was issuing unnecessary treats to Russia. Now he's hiding in his basement. If it was Trump he would have either de-escalate the situation or be ready to go on a full scale war. That's how a leader acts. Biden is a pussy ass bitch
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:55pm On Feb 24, 2022
BasedUsername:
What would you rather have Biden do then? Send his own people to die? Trump's unpredictability worked in his favour and made countries less likely to get uppity the truth is that POTUS is in a very dicey position right now.

A full-scale war with Russia is a major gamble for the American populace, would it unite the people against a common opponent or would is irrevocably damage an already fractured nation? Furthermore, let's not forget about China, an even bigger looming threat that would pounce on any opportunity to take Taiwan and control the semiconductor market. With America distracted, who's going to stop them?

Sanctions and humanitarian aid are the most strategic options as it stands right now. Save warfare for when it's absolutely necessary, like in the case of Taiwan. The EU is hamstrung because of their energy dependence on Russia, but that's what you get for dealing with the devil.

I'm not the biggest fan of Biden but I really hope he succeeds and wish him the best in this matter.
So in other words the west will be issuing sanctions that doesn't even affect Russia while Ukraine is being run-over by Putin. Smh. And if you think this isn't a victory for Russia and china then you are not paying attention. Taiwan will be scared to death right now. Democrats are too weak very weak I remember how Iran captured American soldiers and was playing chicken with American military hardwares until trump came and put a stop to all that. We need Trump back in the white house. Mean tweets is better than this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 4:18pm On Feb 24, 2022
Well war or no war. Ukraine is gone forever
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 4:21pm On Feb 24, 2022
This was how this weak ass president did a disaster pullout from Afghanistan leaving weapons and Americans behind. He's a complete idiot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:26pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
So in other words the west will be issuing sanctions that doesn't even affect Russia while Ukraine is being run-over by Putin. Smh. And if you think this isn't a victory for Russia and china then you are not paying attention. Taiwan will be scared to death right now. Democrats are too weak very weak I remember how Iran captured American soldiers and was playing chicken with American military hardwares until trump came and put a stop to all that. We need Trump back in the white house. Mean tweets is better than this.
I agree that Trump is a stronger presence than Biden, mostly due to his bombastic personality. Most countries think twice before messing with him and it's no coincidence that Russia took break on their invasion of Ukraine while he was in office.

However, Trump is no longer in office and Putin knows he's dealing with an establishment guy. Establishment guys are more professional and 'presidential' but that makes them predictable. Russia knows what to expect from America now.

Now let's look at the hand Biden is working with. The American population is shell-shocked from all the pointless wars of the past, China is salivating at the chance to take Taiwan once America is weakened or distracted, the EU has grown fat and useless among others. Not to mention, American media and academia have been deeply influenced by the unholy combination of corpo and foreign commie money, leaving the people fractured, unpatriotic, fat, and angry at each other. Hell, the military seems to be more focused on diversity and inclusion—which isn't a bad thing in itself but becomes a problem when it's done at the expense of strength.

I think he's right to sit this one out for now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 4:28pm On Feb 24, 2022
What Russia and China saw during our Administration was American Strength, a commitment to defend our Nation, and a willingness to use force to prosecute our interests around the world.- Mike Pence
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 4:29pm On Feb 24, 2022
BasedUsername:
I agree that Trump is a stronger presence than Biden, mostly due to his bombastic personality. Most countries think twice before messing with him and it's no coincidence that Russia took break on their invasion of Ukraine while he was in office.

However, Trump is no longer in office and Putin knows he's dealing with an establishment guy. Establishment guys are more professional and 'presidential' but that makes them predictable. Russia knows what to expect from America now.

Now let's look at the hand Biden is working with. The American population is shell-shocked from all the pointless wars of the past, China is salivating at the chance to take Taiwan once America is weakened or distracted, the EU has grown fat and useless among others. Not to mention, American media and academia have been deeply influenced by the unholy combination of corpo and foreign commie money, leaving the people fractured, unpatriotic, fat, and angry at each other. Hell, the military seems to be more focused on diversity and inclusion—which isn't a bad thing in itself but becomes a problem when it's done at the expense of strength.

I think he's right to sit this one out for now.
Then why not try to sit it out from the beginning ? Why push Ukraine into the war. ?

Innocent people are now paying the price.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 4:31pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
What Russia and China saw during our Administration was American Strength, a commitment to defend our Nation, and a willingness to use force to prosecute our interests around the world.- Mike Pence
Yeah right

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:32pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
Then why not try to it it out from the beginning ? Why push Ukraine into the war. ?
It was inevitable
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta:
stanech:
So in other words the west will be issuing sanctions that doesn't even affect Russia while Ukraine is being run-over by Putin. Smh. And if you think this isn't a victory for Russia and china then you are not paying attention. Taiwan will be scared to death right now. Democrats are too weak very weak I remember how Iran captured American soldiers and was playing chicken with American military hardwares until trump came and put a stop to all that. We need Trump back in the white house. Mean tweets is better than this.
Dumbasssss post grin

Ah USA forma traitor president ah rave andi excited abut how smart andi savvy ah Russian diktator is fa invadings da ukrainia andi killings andi terrorize da innocet peoples ofu Ukrainia

Wheni da sanction ah start, wage Ina Russia ah go down ta $75 per month

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:08pm On Feb 24, 2022
War ah nat gooods. Disi solders ah prefer ta be homes Ina Russia insted ofu fight oligarch war fa Putin andi buddies

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 5:17pm On Feb 24, 2022
gambojimeta:
Dumbasssss post grin

Ah USA forma traitor president ah rave andi excited abut how smart andi savvy ah Russian diktator is fa invadings da ukrainia andi killings andi terrorize da innocet peoples ofu Ukrainia

Wheni da sanction ah start, wage Ina Russia ah go down ta $75 per month

Kikikikikikiki
how about u shut the hell up.. Your guy is being served in Ukraine u are here spewing rubbish as usual...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 5:50pm On Feb 24, 2022
---Putin wants to go nuclear as it is reported Russian troops are trying to seize the Chenobyl nuclear waste site---

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-ukraine-us-allies-sanctions
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:53pm On Feb 24, 2022
Anybody in his or her right senses who is believing that fallacy that if Trump had been in office the situation would have been different should shut up
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:58pm On Feb 24, 2022
Trump threatened to withhold funding for Ukraine threatened to pull out of NATO idolised dictators and threw American intelligence agencies to the mud all in an effort to pick Russia over Ukraine and some dumbos are here telling us about something that Trump would have never done.

One thing is certain had Trump been in office allies would not have been together in this if Trump had been in office Russia would have already been in Ukraine before now because Trump has been doing Putin's job for him.
Stop deceiving yourselves Trump praised and called Putin a genius and in your dumb mind that fraud would fight against Russia or even de-escalate.

LMAO

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:59pm On Feb 24, 2022
Just because you are pained that Trump lost does not give you the right to manufacture lies
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Banchotmods: 6:02pm On Feb 24, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Anybody in his or her right senses who is believing that fallacy that if Trump had been in office the situation would have been different should shut up
Any prostitute in her right mind will ah know she isa irrelevant. Go hide ya self ya donkey
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Banchotmods: 6:03pm On Feb 24, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
[s]Trump threatened to withhold funding for Ukraine threatened to pull out of NATO idolised dictators and threw American intelligence agencies to the mud all in an effort to pick Russia over Ukraine and some dumbos are here telling us about something that Trump would have never done.

One thing is certain had Trump been in office allies would not have been together in this if Trump had been in office Russia would have already been in Ukraine before now because Trump has been doing Putin's job for him.
Stop deceiving yourselves Trump praised and called Putin a genius and in your dumb mind that fraud would fight against Russia or even de-escalate.

LMAO[/s]
explain ah it in prostitute ah term ya will ah talk ah sense grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 6:28pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
how about u shut the hell up.. Your guy is being served in Ukraine u are here spewing rubbish as usual...
Isa Europeans war nat ah Amelika problems . Ya donkey ah pray fa da US ta enta war.
Kikikikikikiki

Trumpolini ah nat ah comes back agains becos he ah vely foolish man who ah suck da Putin dick.

Goan kill yaself witi da sniper ya keying donkey grin

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 6:32pm On Feb 24, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Trump threatened to withhold funding for Ukraine threatened to pull out of NATO idolised dictators and threw American intelligence agencies to the mud all in an effort to pick Russia over Ukraine and some dumbos are here telling us about something that Trump would have never done.

One thing is certain had Trump been in office allies would not have been together in this if Trump had been in office Russia would have already been in Ukraine before now because Trump has been doing Putin's job for him.
Stop deceiving yourselves Trump praised and called Putin a genius and in your dumb mind that fraud would fight against Russia or even de-escalate.

LMAO
Trumpolini woulda send da Putin ah congratulations messages fa invading da ukrainia


grin grin grin grin grin

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 6:53pm On Feb 24, 2022
gambojimeta:
Isa Europeans war nat ah Amelika problems . Ya donkey ah pray fa da US ta enta war.
Kikikikikikiki

Trumpolini ah nat ah comes back agains becos he ah vely foolish man who ah suck da Putin dick.

Goan kill yaself witi da sniper ya keying donkey grin



Kikikikikikiki
European war but ur guy was running mouth like watery shit. Mumu
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 6:57pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
European war but ur guy was running mouth like watery shit. Mumu
Who Isa ya guy ya stooopid donkey

Tinubu Isa ma guy

All world leaders ah run mouth Fram Australia ta Canada ta Africa

Doesn't make it ah less ofu ah European fight ya dumbolini donkey

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 6:58pm On Feb 24, 2022
Truth be told this would not have happened under Trump. He would have declared war or de-escalate the whole situation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 7:17pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
how about u shut the hell up.. Your guy is being served in Ukraine u are here spewing rubbish as usual...
Being served how? What is the US strategic interest in Ukraine?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 7:19pm On Feb 24, 2022
stanech:
Truth be told this would not have happened under Trump. He would have declared war or de-escalate the whole situation.
De-escalated it how? Can you outline how that would have worked?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:30pm On Feb 24, 2022
grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 7:47pm On Feb 24, 2022
https://fb.watch/bnz4wZ3lli/


He was right though. These guys can't attack Russia Ukraine is all alone.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 7:50pm On Feb 24, 2022
LordReed:
De-escalated it how? Can you outline how that would have worked?
I don't know but Putin was talking as if he can bring down Russia under 30 mins. grin. Now he's hiding under his basement.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 7:51pm On Feb 24, 2022
LordReed:
Being served how? What is the US strategic interest in Ukraine?
They have no strategy it was all to push Ukraine to it's death.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 7:56pm On Feb 24, 2022
grin grin grin grin

Russia money ah becom toilet paper soon but I ah sorry fa peoples Ina Russia

Kikikikikikikikikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 8:02pm On Feb 24, 2022
Putin's trump card is China and to an extent, Iran and North Korea.

I condemn his actions but there is a bigger game underneath the surface here.

Trump may have tried to curry favour with Putin by negotiating before it got to this stage, but at this stage, there's nothing he would have been able to do than to sanction Russia, which to me is speculative because he seemed cool with Putin.

There's a nation most of us are not focused on in this game of thrones, Turkey. Turkey is a NATO member but acts like an enemy from within. Erdogan may be having grudges against America due to sone attempted stuffs in the past, which makes it dicey for NATO.

I think Russia is just the face of some disgruntled people who are targeting uncle Sam. If America is not careful, there will be a real challenge when China decides to go against Taiwan.
It will be difficult to fight on two fronts if China decides to go berserk at this stage.


A time will come when sanctions won't do the right damage to intruders like Putin. China had to focus on their people alone to grow speedily before spreading their tentacles across the nations and continents.

I think we are moving into another era in history where we need these fightings to restart a new era of world peace (my opinion).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 8:03pm On Feb 24, 2022
Jack Isa very big trumpolini Onu twitter.

Tucker Isa big trumpolini toos


Jack: attack Putin witi da sanction.

Tucker: Putin Isa gooods man

Trumpolinis ah konfused grin grin grin grin

Kikikikikikiki

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