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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 11:59pm On Feb 24, 2022 |
Kikikikikikiki Russia ah nat likey war Buti when ya Isa have diktato ruler, ya Isa nat get da choice
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:14am On Feb 25, 2022 |
China ended Hong Kong's autonomy during Trump Presidency and he didn't breathe a word. And Trumpanzees think Russia or China will call off their strategic goals based on the name of the US President? Maybe having a mad man in power who could escalate any situation into nuclear war is the "deterrent" they believe that Putin would fear, while Biden is predictable like most US Presidents who would step back from the brink of a nuclear crisis with Russia. Trump that cancelled planned visit to Denmark because he made an offer to buy Greenland on Twitter and Denmark premiere laughed it off jokingly. Putin's move to act now is based on Ukraine parliament voting to seek NATO membership in 2020. While Zendi points out it's an existential threat, is Russia sponsoring and organising a seperatist war in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 not an existential threat to Ukraine which prompted it to vote to seek NATO membership? I believe nuclear powers should be allowed to breathe. International bodies should step in and seek a referendum in the Donbas and Donetsk regions and NATO should take Ukraine membership off the table. The world can't go to war over Western Ukraines wishes like in those days where they start World war over Poland and Czechoslovakia. Western Ukraine should be advised to let the Eastern part go if they vote for independence, but be bribed with open access to EU markets. Money solves all problems. As for Taiwan, it belongs to China. The Chinese ruling party ran there taking China's federal reserve with them during Chairman Mao's revolution and declared an independent state. The West can bully and provoke but what's just is just, and eventually Taiwan must return to China. USA won't like it's ruling class running to Alaska with it's Federal Reserve and declaring a new country. China will not risk taking Taiwan now when it's growth is based on open trade though. That will be cutting your nose to spite your face. China will take Taiwan with no shots fired, when it holds enough economic leverage on enough countries in the world that they agree and recognise Chinese Taipei as a region of China. Of course, with the threat of a strong military acting as insurance. Students of history will know that European countries have been holding conferences to delineate and merge their lands from Berlin conference to earlier conferences, whether it's splitting Prussia into parts that fell into Germany, Poland, Latvia and Lithuania, delineating Austria-Hungary, splitting Poland-Luthuania, or to the splitting of the Balkans in the 1990s or Montenegro and Kosovo in the 2000s, Europeans have been open to discussing borders. They should allow frank discussion with China and Taiwan in the same spirit, and also allow Africa to discuss its borders. Russia was always a winner in these historic discussions but lost it all at the break up of the Soviet Union. What Putin is doing is just trying to recover small grounds. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:56am On Feb 25, 2022 |
BasedUsername:And that is why LGBTs has used brains instead of brawn to achieve equality wherever it has achieved it, unless you want to show me LGBT doing aluta. I've always said the Biafra proclaimers will fail until they use their brains. Mere making the Biafra area the best and most secure and law abiding will invite investment but they unfortunately reason like you do and wouldn't surprise me if the resort to the might of bombings someday, unless things change of course. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:59am On Feb 25, 2022 |
BasedUsername:If China invades Taiwan they'd take all the technology they want before Biden wakes up in America. They don't need the infrastructure. They just need the knowhow. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:00am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Livelystone01:I'm expecting to hear, China invades Taiwan, anytime soon. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:01am On Feb 25, 2022 |
gambojimeta:Where, please? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:16am On Feb 25, 2022 |
tonididdy:This is not in the proper order nor is it all there is. If you help with either I'd appreciate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_on_Priority_Measures_for_European_Integration_of_Ukraine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 1:19am On Feb 25, 2022 |
budaatum:What know-how does Taiwan have that China doesn't? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 1:20am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Protest Ina 51 Russia cities Ofa 1400 Russian protestas arreste Russians ah kall Putin ah aggressor https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/2/24/ukraine-crisis-hundreds-detained-in-anti-war-protests-in-russia
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:23am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Ibime:I know o. Was responding to his "pretty much screwed", as if China hadn't screwed him already. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 1:26am On Feb 25, 2022 |
budaatum:No offence but this is very one-track thinking. I'm not talking about blowing up all your opponents and my example never insinuated anything like that. Power and might may come in the form physical strength, military, intelligence, money, social dexterity, beauty, etc. However it still holds true that at the root of most of this lies the implicit threat of violence. The LGBT community will gain power by influencing how people think through different media and winning more people over to their side. That's how it has always worked. One caveat though, that is also how immoral ideas spread. How did Christianity and Islam spread so far and wide? I don't know if you're familiar with the meme, but the answer is: "through Jihad". Now back to my original point. In countries where LGBT rights are recognized do you know what happens when you beat someone up for being gay? Well, they send a bunch of armed men to deny you of some of your rights. Are those countries bullying homophobia? No, but they need to employ the power of the police to protect these people |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 1:28am On Feb 25, 2022 |
budaatum:And most importantly, they need to take out the competition. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:40am On Feb 25, 2022 |
BasedUsername:But the end result of 'might is right' is always "about blowing up all your opponents". I mean, see us here. Immediately we identify an opponent we disengage brain and donkiefy and violently attack. War is after all just the same violence on a larger scale, no? BasedUsername:Perhaps stop learning from memes and study some history. You might find parents paying for their children to be taught in Islam and Christian schools too, which were superior to what preceded them. BasedUsername:Another thing you learned from a meme, based? In UK where LGBT rights are recognised, unarmed police will investigate and arrest you and if a case can be made against you will be brought before a judge and jury who will determine if you are guilty and must be fined or jailed or not guilty and set free, and if you got that wrong, well..... |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 1:58am On Feb 25, 2022 |
gambojimeta:---When the powerful oligarchs start to lose their financial resources---they will soon turn on Putin---Schalke 04 a german football club have since removed all Grazprom logo from their football shirts--- |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 2:39am On Feb 25, 2022 |
gambojimeta:---Russians protesting against the war---
---and in Paris---Trump's poster--- https://twitter.com/i/status/1496901236326473760
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 2:45am On Feb 25, 2022 |
---One of Russian's mole in the U.S.---Mike Flynn statement--- Flynn spoke to Russia’s ambassador about a UN vote and sanctions against Russia, and Flynn lied to the FBI about the conversations. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/explaining-michael-flynn-controversy-timeline-n826216
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 3:03am On Feb 25, 2022 |
---Can Trump do anything right?---
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 3:08am On Feb 25, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:00am On Feb 25, 2022 |
BasedUsername:Even though Trump was not an establishment guy, he was very predictable. Everyone one knows Trump hate wars, he will never involve US in any new war. He was bent on getting the US out of all the wars he inherited. Remember he avoided military draft 5 times, he barred any of his family from joining the military. Trump that was asking about why US soldiers were stationed in Japan and Germany. Even when Iran was harassing ships in the straits of Hormuz including US ships, he refused bombing Iran directly because of "casualties". Russia would not have needed to invade ukraine if Trump was still in office. Trump didn't really like or believe in NATO. He never got along with the other NATO leaders. He would never have agreed to let Ukraine and Georgia join NATO. Trump would have told Zelensky straight to go and negotiate with Putin instead of relying on US to come to his rescue. Now let's look at the hand Biden is working with. The American population is shell-shocked from all the pointless wars of the past, China is salivating at the chance to take Taiwan once America is weakened or distracted, the EU has grown fat and useless among others. Not to mention, American media and academia have been deeply influenced by the unholy combination of corpo and foreign commie money, leaving the people fractured, unpatriotic, fat, and angry at each other. Hell, the military seems to be more focused on diversity and inclusion—which isn't a bad thing in itself but becomes a problem when it's done at the expense of strength.That's the koko of the issue, the US public would never support starting a new war on foreign soil unless the US was directly affected. So Biden should not have been making noise when Putin was massing troops on Ukraine's borders. He should not also have allowed that comedian (Zelensky) to be making mouth anyhow. Now that it had dawn on him that US would do zilch, he is now asking to talk to Putin when it's too late. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 5:49am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Never too late to join NATO - Zelensky should stop playing softball. Hope he doesn't pack his stuff, family and leave the country. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:20am On Feb 25, 2022*. Modified: 6:50am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Ibime:First of all, Trump would have been called a racist by you and your types if he mentioned the word china. second, Hong kong has always been china. it's one country with two systems, it is not the same as what is going on in Ukraine. but it will not end with Ukraine. This whole thing started with the Obama admin in 2014 coup, it has happened in 2008 as well. At the end of the day, the west forced russia to do this but it will not go un-noticed he is bold because of the animal in the white house. with ISIS and separatist in the middle east, they don't need to fight their enemies directly, why didnt they bless Ukraine with lethal weapons to fight back? Taiwan does not belong to china, only Taiwan can decide if they want to be part of china.as it stands, they don't want and its not because europe is not allowing them to discuss. europeans are spineless idiots taking advantage of the united states. especially germany, the richest european country |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Banchotmods: 7:19am On Feb 25, 2022 |
armyofone:never ah late to ah be ina tha kitchen ah cook for men to ah eat. ya isa donkey who isa talk for ah talk |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 8:14am On Feb 25, 2022 |
budaatum:I generally just match the energy of the person I'm debating. I usually start off respectful but if the person acts an idiot, then it's chimpanzee time! I don't take myself too seriously and I'm not above doing a little trolling. However, I'm never the one to start beef. budaatum:Thanks Buda, very smug. Christianity was just a niche hipster religion until Emperor Constantine became a believer thereby causing it to spread further along with the Roman Empire. Same with Mohammed and later the Ottoman Empire with Islam. Compare what we know about Persian culture through history and modern-day Iran. What could have caused this change? Jihad. budaatum:Where's the lie here? Police coming to arrest you is an implicit threat of violence. What happens when you resist arrest? At the very least, you get strong-armed into that cop car. What happens when you don't show up in court? That's contempt and now they want to arrest you even harder. What happens when you don't pay the fine? They garnish your income. What happens when you just try to leave prison? Well, they drag you back in. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 8:19am On Feb 25, 2022 |
budaatum:The worst reaction was Obama last night. Predictably, last night, Obama, the man who led the invasion and destruction of economic powerhouse and successful country, Libya, tweeted to advice world powers and ask Russia to act with "decency, respect, and international laws". Obama invaded and ruined Libya even after Russia, China and neutral countries begged him not to, but he's lecturing others. It's like Babaginda tweeting about free and fair elections, and coups. The height of hypocrisy! Anytime you read of Boko Haram and ISWAP killings, just know Obama and Hillary Clinton, via arming Libyan militants, caused us this pain. Goodluck and Buhari only mismanaged the fallout, but both were never the cause. Same Obama who confessed years later in 2016 before leaving office that "invading and destroying Libya" was the worst mistake he ever did: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/barack-obama-says-libya-was-worst-mistake-of-his-presidency. There were no such terror groups as ISIS and ISWAP before Obama became POTUS in 2008. Yet he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Even the Nobel Secretary admitted awarding Obama was a mistake: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960 . Why is Obama still treated like a hero? Why do the media still worship him? Because he's an establishment puppet with the gift of the gab? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:57am On Feb 25, 2022 |
benalvino3:I'm sure they've done so. I'm sure you remember that Trump was first impeached for denying Ukraine weapons unless Zelensky give up info he about Hunter Biden so he can use for smear politics. Playing petty attack politics with a war situation.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:42am On Feb 25, 2022 |
Ibime:I am sure you are basking on leftwing propaganda. Trump was also the first to collude with Russia and Russia hack the election. You still believe the democrats lies. Obama at 2014 was sending blankets to Ukraine... Trump sent lethal weapons to the country. Asking the country to fight corruption is the right thing to do. Hong Kong, your type like LeBron James asked a coach to educate himself because he complain of China clamp down on protesters. John Cena speak Chinese. You yourself attacked trump for using the right term to label the virus, Chinese virus. But you and others still want to say trump didn't do anything. He tried to put sanctions to weaken Chinese economy, yall call. Him racist, he tries to be friendly to deescalate tension, yall call him puppet. Obama started this, the messed up syria, Yemen, Libya and Ukraine. You are not talking towards that aspect... Trump seem to give you sleepless nights. These did not happen under his watch. China and Russia, North Korea and others are only loud because the man in power seem to care more about the first transgender general than actually winner wars. As for Europe, remember why they all hated trump? Cause he was speaking the truth. They don't want to spend, they don't want to do anything. Everything is on the shoulders of the US. UK stand up in WW2 but the spine they once have is not longer... They have woke fools from left to right. UK, Germany, France and Italy are all a disgrace, even Belgium. Hypocrites and spineless fools. How they continue to depend on the enemy is beyond me. Greed. If they are not patronizing Russia, this won't be happening. They have time to look for alternatives, because they are greedy and stingy, they don't want to bare the cost. Look at Germany, trump stop pipeline he is a maniac, Biden stopped pipeline in his country and allow the enemy to have theirs now he is stopping it again. What for? Fools. China never start... It will be funny to watch how two eastern countries brings NATO to its knees because of stupid politicians. Ibime love it or hate it, trump is better than the fools you have in Europe and the US right now. I am now thinking twice about traveling to these western countries as my planned trips in the coming months and years. Putin. Might nuke them at any time and get away with it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:56am On Feb 25, 2022 |
benalvino3:You are rambling on what is in your head that nobody asked you. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 10:33am On Feb 25, 2022 |
benalvino3:Forced Russia? You are kidding right? What military moves did the West make in Ukraine that required a military response from Russia? Putin's stated goal of demilitarising Ukraine was brought about by which of the West's actions? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 10:39am On Feb 25, 2022 |
DissTroy:You sure about that? ISIL originated in 1999, pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda, and participated in the Iraqi insurgency following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by a multi-national coalition led by the United States. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 10:52am On Feb 25, 2022 |
LordReed:Selective amnesia? Boko Haram was never a terror group until 2010 after Yusuf was killed. It existed for years for then but wasn't a terror group. extremists? Yes. The indirect actions of Obama bolstered it with the Libyan arms which trickled down south. Interestingly, you avoided all evidence which nailed your Lord Obama to pick at straws? See how predictable you lots are? You even avoided evidence of Obama admitting Libya was a mistake or the Nobel Secretary regretting awarding Obama the Peace Prize. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 11:21am On Feb 25, 2022 |
DissTroy:I addressed the ISIS component of your statement. Also what did Boko Haram becoming a terror group after Yusuf's death got to do with Obama? Was it Obama that ordered the killing of Yusuf? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:49am On Feb 25, 2022 |
LordReed:2014, the US arranged a coup that made the pro Russia president of Ukraine resigned and install their puppet which destabilize the country as pro Russian citizens starts to clash with Ukraine. Obama and minions did that promising Ukraine a path to become a NATO member. Putin does not want Nato around his border... The same thing happened in Georgia in 2008 which forced Russia to invade the country. This is no different from what happened. Putin was forced to do this because it has happened before. US destabilize the region by meddling in the country in 2014. You dont really understand what's going on. Look into the crisis In 2014 to understand what Obama and Hillary did to send Ukraine into this path. |
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