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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 3:56pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
It actually was Europe that was meddling long before Obama and in response to splits in Ukraine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_relations
There wasn't even any meddling, a people's revolution is what these guys are calling western manipulation, if Obama was meddling in Ukraine he would have moved in once Putin seized Crimea
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:59pm On Feb 25, 2022
raumdeuter:
Personally, I want America to ignore and focus on itself. For example Ukraine, let EU take care of themselves. All these NATO members when they ask them to contribute 2% of their GDP they will refuse but anytime Putin shakara them they will be asking America to come to their aid

Anyone that cannot contribute their 2% should defend itself
That's precisely what drumpthfp said, so I find it amusing some think he would have shipped forces to Ukraine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:01pm On Feb 25, 2022
sanpipita:
There wasn't even any meddling, a people's revolution is what these guys are calling western manipulation, if Obama was meddling in Ukraine he would have moved in once Putin seized Crimea
The removal of the elected president seemed like meddling. I'm not blaming Obama though.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:04pm On Feb 25, 2022
The earlier people see this as a fight between democracy and autocracy the better for them this is beyond NATO
sanpipita:
Putin has never mentioned NATO yet people keep talking about NATO, should Putin control Ukraine he will have borders with NATO nations so what's the point? people are not thinking
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
The removal of the elected president seemed like meddling. I'm not blaming Obama though.
A removal by people who elected him? if end sars lead to removal of buhari, will you say its meddling?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:13pm On Feb 25, 2022
Lindsey Graham has no shame he voted to confirm Judge Jackson months ago.

What changed cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 4:14pm On Feb 25, 2022
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 4:15pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
They can't stop, but in this case they are actually encouraging, which is equally not wrong unless you are Russia.

Just flip it round. Think Russia base in Hawai.
And you think what Russia is doing right now is not enough reason to justify Ukraine's membership of NATO?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 4:17pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
And you think what Russia is doing right now is not enough reason to justify Ukraine's membership of NATO?
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:19pm On Feb 25, 2022
sanpipita:
There wasn't even any meddling, a people's revolution is what these guys are calling western manipulation, if Obama was meddling in Ukraine he would have moved in once Putin seized Crimea
You think the video I present here of Victoria nuland discussing who to install as the leading of Ukraine is not meddling?

No one supports Russia but Nato has been overdoing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 4:21pm On Feb 25, 2022
LordReed:
I addressed the ISIS component of your statement. Also what did Boko Haram becoming a terror group after Yusuf's death got to do with Obama? Was it Obama that ordered the killing of Yusuf?
You are a child if you don't see the correlation between Obama and Boko Haram.

When Yusuf was killed in 2009, Boko Haram wasn't a terror group.

During the Arab Spring, when Obama invaded and destroyed Libya, and armed militant groups to cause mayhem, stockpiled arms from Benghazi and US arms moved down south into Northern Nigeria.

This was late 2010 to 2011. That was when Boko Haram became a notable terror group.

There are thousands of articles and thinkpieces detailing how that action of Obama militarized West Africa, and gave rise to ISWAP (and armed Boko Haram). I have posted some over the months and a few today here, but LordReed from Nairaland is hell-bent of rewriting history to suit his skewed narrative.

So bad, even Nobel regretted awarding Obama the Peace Prize.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:22pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
The earlier people see this as a fight between democracy and autocracy the better for them this is beyond NATO
They won't they are high on Russian propaganda even after Putin said Ukraine was a mistake by Lenin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by zendi: 4:31pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
I'm expecting to hear, China invades Taiwan, anytime soon.
Xee may not have Vlad's balls of steel. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:32pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
It actually was Europe that was meddling long before Obama and in response to splits in Ukraine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_relations
Lordreed
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:32pm On Feb 25, 2022
benalvino3:
You think the video I present here of Victoria nuland discussing who to install as the leading of Ukraine is not meddling?

No one supports Russia but Nato has been overdoing
NATO is over doing what? do you realize Ukraine proposal to join NATO has been rejected, France and Germany oppose it even USA are not committed to it, as things stand Ukraine can't join NATO, Putin knows this but he has his eyes on something else
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta:
DissTroy:
The worst reaction was Obama last night. Predictably, last night, Obama, the man who led the invasion and destruction of economic powerhouse and successful country, Libya, tweeted to advice world powers and ask Russia to act with "decency, respect, and international laws".

Obama invaded and ruined Libya even after Russia, China and neutral countries begged him not to, but he's lecturing others. It's like Babaginda tweeting about free and fair elections, and coups. The height of hypocrisy!

Anytime you read of Boko Haram and ISWAP killings, just know Obama and Hillary Clinton, via arming Libyan militants, caused us this pain. Goodluck and Buhari only mismanaged the fallout, but both were never the cause.


Same Obama who confessed years later in 2016 before leaving office that "invading and destroying Libya" was the worst mistake he ever did: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/barack-obama-says-libya-was-worst-mistake-of-his-presidency.

There were no such terror groups as ISIS and ISWAP before Obama became POTUS in 2008. Yet he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Even the Nobel Secretary admitted awarding Obama was a mistake: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960 .

Why is Obama still treated like a hero? Why do the media still worship him? Because he's an establishment puppet with the gift of the gab?
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:41pm On Feb 25, 2022
benalvino3:
Taiwan does not belong to china, only Taiwan can decide if they want to be part of china.as it stands, they don't want and its not because europe is not allowing them to discuss.
I love it when Taiwan trolls China by calling them West Taiwan
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:48pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Lindsey Graham has no shame he voted to confirm Judge Jackson months ago.

What changed cheesy
One of reasons I like American politics is some comments you will read and you will start laughing, I just saw replies to his tweet
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:49pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Lindsey Graham has no shame he voted to confirm Judge Jackson months ago.

What changed cheesy
Graham prefers Michelle Childs for the SCOTUS and he publicly campaigned for her
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:57pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
And you think what Russia is doing right now is not enough reason to justify Ukraine's membership of NATO?
I think it does justify Ukraine seeking membership of NATO, though not "reason", since
Ukraine's membership of NATO is justification for what Russia is doing, according to them.

It's chicken or egg, to me, Amazon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 5:01pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Thank to Trump and his friends for emboldening the far right and poisoning America with Trumpism.
Holy crap, you know you're doing the same thing, right? The division America has been brewing since the Occupy Wall Street protests. Do you seriously believe that people are more racist now than 15 years ago?

People weren't dropping their friends and disowning their families based on political alignment before. So no, its not one side that's causing the division, it's both sides.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:06pm On Feb 25, 2022
sanpipita:
A removal by people who elected him? if end sars lead to removal of buhari, will you say its meddling?
Not if there were no external meddlers I wouldn't. And if only because end sars was a stupid ignorant typical disorganised Nigerian aluta uprising, I doubt there was external meddling.

Damn! Do they teach this stupid ideology in our universities or something, that might is right?

Fact is, external meddling goes on in Ukraine, by Russia and by Europe and by USA, as we all can see. And we are a democracy! We should not remove our president by storming the capital like some ignorant Americans tried to!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:11pm On Feb 25, 2022
raumdeuter:
Graham prefers Michelle Childs for the SCOTUS and he publicly campaigned for her
Yes because she is a corporatist.

Thank God that Biden did not pick her
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:16pm On Feb 25, 2022
sanpipita:
There wasn't even any meddling, a people's revolution is what these guys are calling western manipulation, if Obama was meddling in Ukraine he would have moved in once Putin seized Crimea
America does not need to move in to meddle. We already know Biden's involvement in Ukraine through his son. That is very high level access to influence if not meddling and manipulating to your advantage as opposed to that of another.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 5:33pm On Feb 25, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:41pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
America does not need to move in to meddle. We already know Biden's involvement in Ukraine through his son. That is very high level access to influence if not meddling and manipulating to your advantage as opposed to that of another.
Till now there's no evidence Biden tried meddling in Ukraine for his son, hows it this still a thing? and right here we are talking about meddling to overthrow a govt.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:44pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
Not if there were no external meddlers I wouldn't. And if only because end sars was a stupid ignorant typical disorganised Nigerian aluta uprising, I doubt there was external meddling.

Damn! Do they teach this stupid ideology in our universities or something, that might is right?

Fact is, external meddling goes on in Ukraine, by Russia and by Europe and by USA, as we all can see. And we are a democracy! We should not remove our president by storming the capital like some ignorant Americans tried to!
Global community will always give their opinions and solidarity to issues around the world, still had end sars resulted to overthrow of government will it still be meddling because they talked about? reducing 2014 Ukrainian revolution to meddling is an insult to people of Ukraine
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 5:45pm On Feb 25, 2022
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-supreme-court-nominee-ketanji-brown-jackson

President Biden is nominating Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court, making good on a campaign promise to pick the first Black woman for the nation's highest court. 

Brown Jackson, 51, is a judge for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:45pm On Feb 25, 2022
budaatum:
I think it does justify Ukraine seeking membership of NATO, though not "reason", since
Ukraine's membership of NATO is justification for what Russia is doing, according to them.

It's chicken or egg, to me, Amazon.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:50pm On Feb 25, 2022
sanpipita:
Till now there's no evidence Biden tried meddling in Ukraine for his son, hows it this still a thing? and right here we are talking about meddling to overthrow a govt.
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:52pm On Feb 25, 2022
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:52pm On Feb 25, 2022
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