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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Jeferious: 10:05am On Feb 27, 2022
NGpatriot:



Ukraine is a sovereign Nation and free to associate with any Nation including any military alliance. Security fears and concerns don't mean you have to wipe your neighbors and sovereign nations off the map.

Why not go to the other NATO member nations along his border like Ukraine? The coward can not because he's scared of NATO's article Number 5.

Individual countries determine their future, their friendships and associations, not some neighborhood bully or whatever 24 million people he lost decades ago.



if Soviet's 24 million corpses mean nothing to you, why should Ukraine's 44 million matter? This your statement is more than enough to make Putin launch his nukes sef. But I fear that the man is not as radical as I once thought he is. He's more of a calculating snake than a mad man. Hitler and Stalin would have done things that would make your ears tingle when you hear them by now if they had Putin's resources.

Forget beef, forget beef....na your type go sell your papa land to im sworn enemies

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by huptin(m): 10:16am On Feb 27, 2022
Jeferious:
if Soviet's 24 million corpses mean nothing to you, why should Ukraine's 44 million matter? This your statement is more than enough to make Putin launch his nukes sef. But I fear that the man is not as radical as I once thought he is. He's more of a calculating snake than a mad man. Hitler and Stalin would have done things that would make your ears tingle when you hear them by now if they had Putin's resources.

Forget beef, forget beef....na your type go sell your papa land to im sworn enemies

Russia is not the only country with nukes and in terms of precision Russia's nukes do not compare well with the US. He tries it? Himself and everything Russian goes with it!
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by lionphil(m): 10:23am On Feb 27, 2022
Gainman:
your mumu don do. It is safer for United States to be in possession of nuclear weapons than Russia and other terrorist countries to be in control of these deadly weapons

You've listened too much to the media... why did the US refuse to stick to the agreement of 1991? The US is the aggressor.

DYOR
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by lionphil(m): 10:25am On Feb 27, 2022
huptin:


Russia is not the only country with nukes and in terms of precision Russia's nukes do not compare well with the US. He tries it? Himself and everything Russian goes with it!

You watch too many movies... even the US knows it can't attack Russia because the repercussion will be epic. The Russia needs only one successful Nuke to make the whole of US to cower and they have thousands of it.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by iLoveYouToo(m): 10:31am On Feb 27, 2022
princeeze1:

That you choose to believe a lie to feel good is not my fault. What I wrote are facts not epistles. My news sources? CNN,BBC, China television, Rt, press tv. I watch all of them and their propaganda. E.g, did you know the battle was paused for some hours while BBC kept telling you Russians advance slowed down due to Ukrainian resistance?


I’m aware sir and it’s same western media you and I got the update from.


I hope you’ll proudly pick a Russian citizenship over a ‘western’ visa.

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Lindodo20: 10:50am On Feb 27, 2022
iLoveYouToo:



I’m aware sir and it’s same western media you and I got the update from.


I hope you’ll proudly pick a Russian citizenship over a ‘western’ visa.

Don't mind them, they keep supporting virulent racists who don't even see their black asses as human to begin with. With what Russia is doing in CAR at the moment, and China all over the African continent pillaging resources and ruining national economies via fake debt, any African who supports a Russia-China alliance is a self-destructive fool.

If Russia-China had their way, the black race would be extinct. Yes USA is racist but with them the black man stands a fighting chance. The Chinese are going to wipe out the entire Africa at the rate they are going. Ditto Russia. But the curse of the black man is to always work against his own interest/progress

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Gainman: 11:20am On Feb 27, 2022
lionphil:


You've listened too much to the media... why did the US refuse to stick to the agreement of 1991? The US is the aggressor.

DYOR
so is all about US. No longer Ukraine? U support what d Russia is doing against Ukraine just because u hate US.
U smiling while d innocent are dying because u hate US. You are out of your mind.
U called US aggressor despite never shot a bullet. Russia is d innocent one to u.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Connected1: 11:26am On Feb 27, 2022
seanwilliam:
and we’ve not received any aids from west ? How much have You benefited from Russia compared to west?
We have.

Go through history, do your research and you will understand the damages of their aids.

No be me go lecture you about history.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Connected1: 11:29am On Feb 27, 2022
iLoveYouToo:



I appreciate your propagandist reply but you clearly don’t understand what NATO is.
You have nothing to say.

You can't tell me you want to know that NATO means North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by fkj950ax(m): 11:29am On Feb 27, 2022
Jeferious:
The best form of defense is attack.

It's easy for you to type whatever you like because you've not been a part of a project that lost its influence and glory overtime because of external sabotage and manipulations. And the enemy is not even stopping till this project is completely pulverized. I have been in such situation, and I tell you this, in all honesty Putin has been soft with the Ukrainians. If I were in Putin's position.....maybe Ukraine would have been a wasteland by now. In fact as at Friday last week there should not be any country named Ukraine on world map.

So far Putin has been "reasonably and passively aggressive" with his peacemaking mission. His approach is very commendable. But if by tonight he doesn't take Kyiv, he should increase his intensity. What didn't happen tonight should happen by tomorrow evening.

This thing sef dey vex me. Why can't US and her allies stay in their lane?

Did you really type this?
What project joins Ruaaia and Ukraine.
You all are just going off from a place of ignorance.
Glory and influence? WTF is that?
You want Ukrainians to live in a wasteland?
Guy, you need help or more education
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by huptin(m): 11:38am On Feb 27, 2022
lionphil:


You watch too many movies... even the US knows it can't attack Russia because the repercussion will be epic. The Russia needs only one successful Nuke to make the whole of US to cower and they have thousands of it.

You should stop over hyping Russia, Russia in the extreme case can only hit NATO allies in eurpoe his precision guided missiles can still not hit the US, you can confirm that! But the US has the nukes and the precision guided missiles to destroy Russia at a whim!

Russia knows this, that is why it has refused to attack NATO allies like Poland who have defied Russia's threat by openly supporting Ukraine with millitary equipment and intelligence. Or were you thinking Ukraine is actually able to face Russia on her own?

The game NATO is playing is simple: support Ukraine make it look as if it is Ukraine giving Russia a bloody nose to humiliate Russia, if this fails, NATO will get involved and there will be no winners but Russia will feel it, Russia will surely feel it sooo bad, Putin will be removed forcefully and the west will use that as an excuse to penetrate and actually control Russia' nuclear threat!
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Czario: 11:42am On Feb 27, 2022
Goodmarlian:
Look at this map and tell me the America and NATO doesnt have alterior motives,every body cannot be foolish like Nigerian leaders that doesn't care about the security of the country, you want your NATO to plant her missiles in Ukraine so that if there is war tommorow Russia wouldn't be able defend herself because the missiles are too close to Moscow, an ICMBM launched from America mainland takes 25 minutes to reach anywhere in the world,imagine if that kind of missile is placed in ukraine which time will Moscow have to intercept it ? It will take seconds to reach Russia and wreck havoc .

hypocrite Nigerians that never condemns the killings in kaduna and benue no go let us hear word ndi uchu.

OP with this map an ICBM Would only be a waste of energy. A simple rocket launcher with nuclear warhead would do havoc on Russia
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by seanwilliam(m): 11:50am On Feb 27, 2022
Connected1:
We have.

Go through history, do your research and you will understand the damages of their aids.

No be me go lecture you about history.
Oga you cant just be dishing out half info on public fora like this. Nigeria has benefited more from USA compared to any other country on earth .
The little freedom you enjoy today is made possible by the west .

The internet , the social apps , the os and most of technology and innovations that make your life easier are all product of the west. You bloody ingrate!
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Nobody: 11:57am On Feb 27, 2022
iLoveYouToo:



I’m aware sir and it’s same western media you and I got the update from.


I hope you’ll proudly pick a Russian citizenship over a ‘western’ visa.
You clearly have nothing to say. No superior argument. Instead of bringing facts, you are talking about visa and citizenship. Is the war about visa and citizenship? The war is about geopolitical security, stick to it. If the war is about racial inequality, I know where to pitch my tenth. Talk facts not emotions.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by angelfallz(m): 11:57am On Feb 27, 2022
Well said
Goodmarlian:
Look at this map and tell me the America and NATO doesnt have alterior motives,every body cannot be foolish like Nigerian leaders that doesn't care about the security of the country, you want your NATO to plant her missiles in Ukraine so that if there is war tommorow Russia wouldn't be able defend herself because the missiles are too close to Moscow, an ICMBM launched from America mainland takes 25 minutes to reach anywhere in the world,imagine if that kind of missile is placed in ukraine which time will Moscow have to intercept it ? It will take seconds to reach Russia and wreck havoc .

hypocrite Nigerians that never condemns the killings in kaduna and benue no go let us hear word ndi uchu.

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by angelfallz(m): 11:58am On Feb 27, 2022
The security and sovereignty of a country is worth war sir.

venabili:
Its crazy and definitely looks like encroachment. But nothing is worth war. Too many innocents suffer
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by seanwilliam(m): 12:03pm On Feb 27, 2022
huptin:


You should stop over hyping Russia, Russia in the extreme case can only hit NATO allies in eurpoe his precision guided missiles can still not hit the US, you can confirm that! But the US has the nukes and the precision guided missiles to destroy Russia at a whim!

Russia knows this, that is why it has refused to attack NATO allies like Poland who have defied Russia's threat by openly supporting Ukraine with millitary equipment and intelligence. Or were you thinking Ukraine is actually able to face Russia on her own?

The game NATO is playing is simple: support Ukraine make it look as if it is Ukraine giving Russia a bloody nose to humiliate Russia, if this fails, NATO will get involved and there will be no winners but Russia will feel it, Russia will surely feel it sooo bad, Putin will be removed forcefully and the west will use that as an excuse to penetrate and actually control Russia' nuclear threat!

leave them ..do you actually know what I hate most? It’s their chest beating, blind support for Putin and overestimation of Russia’s weapon. They’ll talk about nukes as if usa /nato doesn’t possess badass nukes too..


Who could imagine that as at 1945, USA possessed atomic bomb o, baba, come imagine 77 years later, what do you think will be in the US arsenal ??..

Do they know ground breaking achievement usa have had both in science and technology in the past 50 years ?? And it’s very possible that all those icbm and deadly weapons Russia has made us to be believe that she possess, are eastern propaganda ..


Going by history , I don’t think any country is comparable to the USA,

A philosopher said, You can only predict the future by going through the history and check correlation with the present,. In that case usa ticks the box , and she’s still capable of rulling the world for the next 4 decades..

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Nobody: 12:30pm On Feb 27, 2022
huptin:


You should stop over hyping Russia, Russia in the extreme case can only hit NATO allies in eurpoe his precision guided missiles can still not hit the US, you can confirm that! But the US has the nukes and the precision guided missiles to destroy Russia at a whim!

Russia knows this, that is why it has refused to attack NATO allies like Poland who have defied Russia's threat by openly supporting Ukraine with millitary equipment and intelligence. Or were you thinking Ukraine is actually able to face Russia on her own?

The game NATO is playing is simple: support Ukraine make it look as if it is Ukraine giving Russia a bloody nose to humiliate Russia, if this fails, NATO will get involved and there will be no winners but Russia will feel it, Russia will surely feel it sooo bad, Putin will be removed forcefully and the west will use that as an excuse to penetrate and actually control Russia' nuclear threat!

Don’t deceive yourself, nato would never get involved, if you need a precedent, ask Georgia 2008. Also while admittedly the United States is the worlds only super power, if it were easy for it to invade Russia, it would have found an excuse to do so. Do you think war is all about weapons? You consider geography also, allies, defense, resilience. And who told you Russian missiles can’t hit the US mainland. What does ICBM stand for? Who is the current leader in the race while fielding hypersonic weapons? We all clearly don’t want a nuclear war, a nuclear war head does not need precision, even if you were able to intercept it above your airspace, everyone would still die there. I also hope you realize hypersonic gliders currently have no defense. So a nuclear war head mounted on a glider would surely get to its destination unhindered. Food for thought, if it was Pakistan that attacked Ukraine, so you believe nato would have stayed out of the conflict. They would have since imposed a no fly zone over Pakistan and used humanitarian issues as a pretext to invade. Madness get levels.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Malawian(m): 12:34pm On Feb 27, 2022
Just tell them that NATO is fulani herdsmen and Ukraine is Benue state and Russia is Igboland/ Biafra.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by venabili: 12:55pm On Feb 27, 2022
angelfallz:
The security and sovereignty of a country is worth war sir.


Oh, i actually meant Russia shouldn't have invaded because they feel encircled. I do understand that they feel NATO is getting too close to them, and frankly USA will never allow such within their sphere of influence, the fact remains that as long as the Russian Nuclear triad remain effective and up to date, NATO will never be able to put boots on Russian soil no matter how close they get.

Sovereignty is subject to your ability to defend it. Same as human rights. When i approach a military checkpoint, i ensure my phone is out of sight. There is no law preventing me from using my phone, but the men in khaki have superior firepower and can overide my rights should dey desire. I dont try to quote laws when facing the business end of a Kalashnikov held by a nigerian soldier.

NATO launched a campaign against the sovereign nation of Serbia when Kosovo tried to break away. They did not mention sovereignty then. World powers basically do or say what suits them.

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by venabili: 1:03pm On Feb 27, 2022
seanwilliam:
leave them ..do you actually know what I hate most? It’s their chest beating, blind support for Putin and overestimation of Russia’s weapon. They’ll talk about nukes as if usa /nato doesn’t possess badass nukes too..


Who could imagine that as at 1945, USA possessed atomic bomb o, baba, come imagine 77 years later, what do you think will be in the US arsenal ??..

Do they know ground breaking achievement usa have had both in science and technology in the past 50 years ?? And it’s very possible that all those icbm and deadly weapons Russia has made us to be believe that she possess, are eastern propaganda ..


Going by history , I don’t think any country is comparable to the USA,

A philosopher said, You can only predict the future by going through the history and check correlation with the present,. In that case usa ticks the box , and she’s still capable of rulling the world for the next 4 decades..

America is the greatest military power on earth right now. That however doesnt mean they cant be defeated by a few adversaries. When nuclear weapons, especially those delivered via ICBMs or SLBMs are involved, deaths and destruction prevails. I dont think Americans will take consolation in the fact that they can utterly destroy Russia, when such an action will all but guarantee the eradication of their homeland. And by the way, no real defense exist for ICBMs and SLBMs yet, especially in quantities possesed by Russia. I have no doubt America will intercept and destroy any plane/air launched nukes, but the others nukes simply travel too fast and has so may warheads and penetration aids.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Adjovi: 1:04pm On Feb 27, 2022
Gainman:
your mumu don do. It is safer for United States to be in possession of nuclear weapons than Russia and other terrorist countries to be in control of these deadly weapons


How is Russia a terrorist nation please explain?
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by ayindejimmy(m): 1:05pm On Feb 27, 2022
OneCorner:
So hypocritical that no one cared when US invaded Iraq, Vietnam and evening Libya
You people should stop talking about what you know little of.
The US only attacked the Govt of Libya and Iraq after the Lockerbie bombing and 9/11.

And the US never invade to annexe. They only go to catch terrorists
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Adjovi: 1:08pm On Feb 27, 2022
ayindejimmy:

You people should stop talking about what you know little of.
The US only attacked the Govt of Libya and Iraq after the Lockerbie bombing and 9/11.

And the US never invade to annexe. They only go to catch terrorists


And how was Libya involved in 9/11
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by BluntTheApostle(m): 1:11pm On Feb 27, 2022
Something the United States can never take.

This is the same as boxing Russia in.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by OneCorner: 1:15pm On Feb 27, 2022
ayindejimmy:

You people should stop talking about what you know little of.
The US only attacked the Govt of Libya and Iraq after the Lockerbie bombing and 9/11.

And the US never invade to annexe. They only go to catch terrorists
After 20yrs of killing and maiming, did they now fulfill their reason to invade?
Russia, US, NATO are all the same
Russia didn’t say they want to annex Ukraine too, they said they want to liberate the country
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by BluntTheApostle(m): 1:28pm On Feb 27, 2022
ayindejimmy:

You people should stop talking about what you know little of.
The US only attacked the Govt of Libya and Iraq after the Lockerbie bombing and 9/11.

And the US never invade to annexe. They only go to catch terrorists

Is annexation worse than illegal bombings and unauthorized invasions which the United States have carried out in the past?

Illegal invasions from Vietnam to Iraq to Yugoslavia etceteras.

The West is damn hypocritical, and that is what annoys Putin.

The Cuban Missiles crisis is very similar to what is happening now.

Castro wanted very much to join the Warsaw Pact, but the Americans were against foreign presence in the Americas.

Now, they want Putin to look the other way, as NATO covers up the whole East, while baiting Ukraine with their nonsense open-door policy.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Connected1: 1:28pm On Feb 27, 2022
seanwilliam:

Oga you cant just be dishing out half info on public fora like this. Nigeria has benefited more from USA compared to any other country on earth .
The little freedom you enjoy today is made possible by the west .

The internet , the social apps , the os and most of technology and innovations that make your life easier are all product of the west. You bloody ingrate!
I didn't want to waste my time lecturing you that's why I gave half informations.

You are foolish to talk about freedom, you sure know nothing about Nigerian History, our freedom was ensured by our past leaders, the likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo, Ahmadu Bello and others. Moreover it's imperative you know that the West and Arabs invaded Africa and Enslaved them with the English Men invading Nigeria, Ethiopia was the only country that wasn't enslaved because they fought ruthlessly.

The social media and many other modern technologies never made our lives completely easier, rather it made them complicated and difficult, brought about increased jealousy. Tell me the advantages of the modern nuclear weapons and other weapons.

Our Fathers lived easier lives, their women were contented and knew nothing about being a feminist, prostitution was very minimal/non existent and so was other crimes.

The West spoilt Nigeria, sit with elders and they will tell you the real truth about our history.

I believe you know something now.

You should watch and learn from more experienced persons instead of saying dumb things.

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Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Connected1: 1:33pm On Feb 27, 2022
venabili:


Oh, i actually meant Russia shouldn't have invaded because they feel encircled. I do understand that they feel NATO is getting too close to them, and frankly USA will never allow such within their sphere of influence, the fact remains that as long as the Russian Nuclear triad remain effective and up to date, NATO will never be able to put boots on Russian soil no matter how close they get.

Sovereignty is subject to your ability to defend it. Same as human rights. When i approach a military checkpoint, i ensure my phone is out of sight. There is no law preventing me from using my phone, but the men in khaki have superior firepower and can overide my rights should dey desire. I dont try to quote laws when facing the business end of a Kalashnikov held by a nigerian soldier.

NATO launched a campaign against the sovereign nation of Serbia when Kosovo tried to break away. They did not mention sovereignty then. World powers basically do or say what suits them.
Hmm

It seems you can live around your enemies.

That's not a smart idea because you may die easily.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Herbephe1(m): 1:35pm On Feb 27, 2022
full of intelligent people
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by venabili: 1:43pm On Feb 27, 2022
Connected1:

Hmm

It seems you can live around your enemies.

That's not a smart idea because you may die easily.
Well as long as my enemies are assured that both they and their families wont survive my retribution should i be assaulted, we should have a common understanding. Its called Mutually Assured Destruction.
Re: Take A Look At This Map And Tell Me Why You Wouldnt Invade Ukraine. by Goodmarlian: 1:45pm On Feb 27, 2022
Malawian:
Just tell them that NATO is fulani herdsmen and Ukraine is Benue state and Russia is Igboland/ Biafra.


Your brain no know pass Ipob/biafra/Igbo you go still go mental na so e dey start.

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