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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 6:01pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
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Morata movement and goal.

True description of what Osimhen should learn and master.
It's laughable you using this to judge Oshimen's movement. Google all Oshimen goals this season and stop this ridiculous analysis to prove a point that does not exist. It's easy to critique him when all the forward players hung on to the ball. Even the coach and some players complained about it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RichardKajola(m): 6:03pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


There is a high chance of the Lazio defenders dealing with a cross to Osimhen.

I am not saying he can not attack from there but the ideal and modern way to play is to attack space. Try to stay off the defenders to prevent being marked. Staying in that position means defenders marking you.

Osimhen should learn to work with spaces and also be part of the play with his movements.

Finito.

In this case, he did the right thing. Coming towards the ball would have futher choked up the space and made it easier for the defenders to defend.
But I agree with you he should learn to be more involved in the build up play. It's one major quality that makes you a modern striker
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On Feb 28, 2022
fabyom:
It's laughable you using this to judge Oshimen's movement. Google all Oshimen goals this season and stop this ridiculous analysis to prove a point that does not exist. It's easy to critique him when all the forward players hung on to the ball. Even the coach and some players complained about it.

I am talking of improvements Osimhen could make after watching him for 90 minutes. There is room for him to become even more potent and deadlier. His teammates will hug the ball if he does not attack spaces. If he is in space, the passes will come. If he is tight with defenders, passing will prove hard to come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:15pm On Feb 28, 2022
RichardKajola:


In this case, he did the right thing. Coming towards the ball would have futher choked up the space and made it easier for the defenders to defend.
But I agree with you he should learn to be more involved in the build up play. It's one major quality that makes you a modern striker

Space, space, space. That is the modern idea. (from my understanding and personal philosophy).

As long as the space is there, you attack it. That is how you disrupt the opposition defensive line.

In that case, the space was there and he did not attack it. It happened repeatedly. If Osimhen starts attacking spaces and helping in build-up play, I can bet, he will be phenomenal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:20pm On Feb 28, 2022
fabyom:
You could see that all the players were facing the goal including Oshimen and the player the player that passed the ball. If it's that easy to turn around at that pace the player who passed the ball should have been the one attacking that space. What I am saying is: There is no way it is humanly possible for Oshimen at that pace to turn around and attack that space in a moment. Picture is different from real life event.

I do not understand. Osimhen can not run towards the direction of the arrow, to make him get into space for the pass. How is that impossible?

I watched that game and the camera was from Osimhen's angle. It was clear and I was like, ATTACK THE GAP. He did not attack it. He should start attacking gaps.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:31pm On Feb 28, 2022
fabyom:
You could see that all the players were facing the goal including Oshimen and the player the player that passed the ball. If it's that easy to turn around at that pace the player who passed the ball should have been the one attacking that space. What I am saying is: There is no way it is humanly possible for Oshimen at that pace to turn around and attack that space in a moment. Picture is different from real life event.

Serie A has posted the highlight. Let me show you from the view I saw. Look at the picture below. It is almost humanly impossible to get that ball to Osimhen. So he should think of exploiting that wide gap. Which makes him visible and part of the play. It was what Fabian Ruiz saw that made him attack the gap.

All I am saying is that Osimhen should stop thinking of his teammates getting the ball to him but make it easier for them to make easy/simple passes to him.

FINITO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:34pm On Feb 28, 2022
Either way, Spaletti should ensure that Elmas starts often for Napoli. He made the team gel more in the middle. Liked his play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:48pm On Feb 28, 2022
The death of the center forward

"It may be that the current dearth is a freak, and that over the next five years a vast numbers of gifted goalscorers will emerge, but this feels like a result of the way the game has evolved. Goalpoachers have all but vanished from the game at the highest level as strikers these days need to be multifaceted. They can’t simply hang around the box, or drift off the shoulder of the last defender, or dart across the near post to finish off chances others have crafted for them. They must now also be capable of creating their own opportunities and, perhaps even more significantly, of linking the play."

https://www.worldsoccer.com/features/the-death-of-the-centre-forward-366598

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:53pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Space, space, space. That is the modern idea. (from my understanding and personal philosophy).

As long as the space is there, you attack it. That is how you disrupt the opposition defensive line.

In that case, the space was there and he did not attack it. It happened repeatedly. If Osimhen starts attacking spaces and helping in build-up play, I can bet, he will be phenomenal.
You are tiring. Sometimes I think you purposely switch off your mind when you want to argue so you can... win? The argument

In this particular match, I reiterate, "attacking such space" as you want would have been an unnecessary move that may have not produced any goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:55pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Serie A has posted the highlight. Let me show you from the view I saw. Look at the picture below. It is almost humanly impossible to get that ball to Osimhen. So he should think of exploiting that wide gap. Which makes him visible and part of the play. It was what Fabian Ruiz saw that made him attack the gap.

All I am saying is that Osimhen should stop thinking of his teammates getting the ball to him but make it easier for them to make easy/simple passes to him.

FINITO.
What will Osimhen do in that "space"? Shoot with his left? Lay up for who?

But nawa o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:57pm On Feb 28, 2022
Russian national team and club sides removed from FIFA and UEFA organized competition. Hmmm sey Ejuke won't explore options on how to leave CSKA like this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/60560567?at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom4=54D8FA10-98BE-11EC-AF90-431016F31EAE&at_medium=custom7

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:58pm On Feb 28, 2022
Odunayaw:
What will Osimhen do in that "space"? Shoot with his left? Lay up for who?

But nawa o

What did Fabian Ruiz do in that space? He scored from range.

Not saying Osimhen must score from range but he can also attract defenders to him and free space for his teammates to attack.

It's better than staying irrelevant.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:00pm On Feb 28, 2022
Odunayaw:
You are tiring. Sometimes I think you purposely switch off your mind when you want to argue so you can... win? The argument

In this particular match, I reiterate, "attacking such space" as you want would have been an unnecessary move that may have not produced any goal

How can it be unnecessary? It is the best solution. You must attack gaps. Than staying in tight spaces where your teammates can not pass to you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:01pm On Feb 28, 2022
I also noticed that Osimhen gets clattered a lot by the opposition because he plays in tight areas. Playing aggressively in such tight spaces leads him to get hit by the opposition. If he plays utilizing more pockets of space around him, he will get fewer hard knocks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:13pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Serie A has posted the highlight. Let me show you from the view I saw. Look at the picture below. It is almost humanly impossible to get that ball to Osimhen. So he should think of exploiting that wide gap. Which makes him visible and part of the play. It was what Fabian Ruiz saw that made him attack the gap.

All I am saying is that Osimhen should stop thinking of his teammates getting the ball to him but make it easier for them to make easy/simple passes to him.

FINITO.
This clearly shows Oshimen did the right thing by attacking the far post and Ruiz did the right thing by attacking the 18 as the attacking midfielder. Simple. The fear of Insigne locating Oshimen at the far post opened up that space for Ruiz. All of them did their job there's nothing here to critique Oshimen for.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:17pm On Feb 28, 2022
True he needs to be smarter on how to utilize space better not everything jam body. Napoli's style is also slightly too slow to match Osimhen's pace but I think that's a general issue of the Italian league not so much Napoli. I don't have the exact numbers but I think the Serie A is the slowest in terms of miles run by the top 5 leagues.

TheGoodJoe:
I also noticed that Osimhen gets clattered a lot by the opposition because he plays in tight areas. Playing aggressively in such tight spaces leads him to get hit by the opposition. If he plays utilizing more pockets of space around him, he will get fewer hard knocks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 7:27pm On Feb 28, 2022
Odunayaw:
What will Osimhen do in that "space"? Shoot with his left? Lay up for who?

But nawa o
I have just been thinking the same. If it were to be Nacho, fine and good. Osi cannot get a curler with the left. It's his weaker foot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:42pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
The death of the center forward

"It may be that the current dearth is a freak, and that over the next five years a vast numbers of gifted goalscorers will emerge, but this feels like a result of the way the game has evolved. Goalpoachers have all but vanished from the game at the highest level as strikers these days need to be multifaceted. They can’t simply hang around the box, or drift off the shoulder of the last defender, or dart across the near post to finish off chances others have crafted for them. They must now also be capable of creating their own opportunities and, perhaps even more significantly, of linking the play."

https://www.worldsoccer.com/features/the-death-of-the-centre-forward-366598

Yesterday, Liverpool and Chelsea played one of the best final in recent years, with both teams starting with no real number 9....
Indeed, the future of the game is switching away gradually from the traditional 18 yard box strikers...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:45pm On Feb 28, 2022
chrisooblog:
True he needs to be smarter on how to utilize space better not everything jam body. Napoli's style is also slightly too slow to match Osimhen's pace but I think that's a general issue of the Italian league not so much Napoli. I don't have the exact numbers but I think the Serie A is the slowest in terms of miles run by the top 5 leagues.

I agree too. Napoli seems like a team that likes the slow play. And, Osimhen is more suited for the direct attack game. If you notice, he regularly beckons on his teammates to high press to win the ball. What I even find impressive is how long Osimhen can continue pressing.

However, I think he can maintain his intensity of play but change his direction of play when his team is with the ball. If he drops deep with intensity, he can give the team more offensive options.

While still maintaining his pressing style when the team loses the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:46pm On Feb 28, 2022
Danielnino00:


Yesterday, Liverpool and Chelsea played one of the best final in recent years, with both teams starting with no real number 9....
Indeed, the future of the game is switching away gradually from the traditional 18 yard box strikers...

Wow. You are right with Havertz and Mane playing the roles. Did not think of that actually until now. Havertz was indeed brilliant yesterday. Liked his play a lot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:48pm On Feb 28, 2022
fabyom:
This clearly shows Oshimen did the right thing by attacking the far post and Ruiz did the right thing by attacking the 18 as the attacking midfielder. Simple. The fear of Insigne locating Oshimen at the far post opened up that space for Ruiz. All of them did their job there's nothing here to critique Oshimen for.

There is no fear of Osimhen. He was locked and out of the equation. The person that gets into the equation is the person that attacks space.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 8:03pm On Feb 28, 2022
comodo:

I have just been thinking the same. If it were to be Nacho, fine and good. Osi cannot get a curler with the left. It's his weaker foot.
You are very correct sir. Only a midfieder can be at that spot at the time and of course, must be with sweet left foot. Osimhen being there? No way!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero47: 8:03pm On Feb 28, 2022
Russia is canceled grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:09pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


What did Fabian Ruiz do in that space? He scored from range.

Not saying Osimhen must score from range but he can also attract defenders to him and free space for his teammates to attack.

It's better than staying irrelevant.
So what was Osimhen doing? he wasn't attracting defenders? Is it not his position that left Ruiz unchallenged for his curler
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 8:09pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


There is no fear of Osimhen. He was locked and out of the equation. The person that gets into the equation is the person that attacks space.
Pictorial analysis is not real life football. Strikers are meant to attack the far post while goalkeepers are to cover their near post. It's a simple coaching terminology.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:11pm On Feb 28, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


How can it be unnecessary? It is the best solution. You must attack gaps. Than staying in tight spaces where your teammates can not pass to you.
Na oversabi be this. For that goal, that was the right thing that was done. Whatever went through Napoli players head resulted in a goal. What you're saying in hindsight doesn't count
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 8:13pm On Feb 28, 2022
Danielnino00:


Yesterday, Liverpool and Chelsea played one of the best final in recent years, with both teams starting with no real number 9....
Indeed, the future of the game is switching away gradually from the traditional 18 yard box strikers...
No wonder none of them got a goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:22pm On Feb 28, 2022
Fifa suspending Russia is just so stupid of them ,I wonder if Russia footballers are at fault or supporting what’s happening

Same fifa that couldn’t suspend USA ,ISREAL

This is unfair to the players and coaching staff

Fifa uefa are so stupid and useless

After they will open their dirty mouths and say they don’t mix sport with politics

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 8:24pm On Feb 28, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Fifa suspending Russia is just so stupid of them ,I wonder if Russia footballers are at fault or supporting what’s happening

Same fifa that couldn’t suspend USA ,ISREAL

This is unfair to the players and coaching staff

Fifa uefa are so stupid and useless

After they will open their dirty mouths and say they don’t mix sport with politics
The west control the world

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:25pm On Feb 28, 2022
fabyom:
No wonder none of them got a goal.

It’s a well composed game from both teams

Salah is more clinical than many strikers

Put world class lewandowski there and he might not still get a goal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:34pm On Feb 28, 2022
zuchyblink:
The west control the world

Best line you ever dropped here. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 8:54pm On Feb 28, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Fifa suspending Russia is just so stupid of them ,I wonder if Russia footballers are at fault or supporting what’s happening

Same fifa that couldn’t suspend USA ,ISREAL

This is unfair to the players and coaching staff

Fifa uefa are so stupid and useless

After they will open their dirty mouths and say they don’t mix sport with politics
Neither USA nor Israel has in recent times invaded any country that minded its business and neither oppressed it's citizens nor sponsored terrorist attacks in another man's country.

Russia should be banned from every thing possible. I'm loving this. Kudos to FIFA, brave decision.

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