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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 10:00pm On Feb 28, 2022
armyofone:
Ummm....maybe higher at mallam aboki mai kudi market?
Russia ruble ah try ta chill witi da Naijeriyan big bwoys


Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:44pm On Feb 28, 2022
gambojimeta:
Freefall
---This is serious freefall---the U.S. and the West have used economic sanctions to bring down the Russian currency and economy without firing one bullet or missile---'the pen is indeed mightier than the sword'---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 11:01pm On Feb 28, 2022
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:46pm On Feb 28, 2022
feedthenation:
---This is serious freefall---the U.S. and the West have used economic sanctions to bring down the Russian currency and economy without firing one bullet or missile---'the pen is indeed mightier than the sword'---
Beware of China, and Japan
https://wolfstreet.com/2021/05/17/who-bought-the-4-7-trillion-of-treasury-securities-added-since-march-2020-to-the-incredibly-spiking-us-national-debt/

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:00am On Mar 01, 2022
sanpipita:
Putin has invaded Ukraine before, he knows Ukraine has nothing backing them NATO or not, problem today is he underestimated resolve of Ukrainians and also support they are getting around the world, how do you get into four days fight with Ukraine and you are threatening nuclear war, USA and NATO are yet to fire one shot in Ukraine and Putin is losing his mind, he miscalculated and it will blow up in his face, before this week ends Ukraine are going to join EU, their membership is getting fast tracked
This not a war, more like a "Police Action" to effect regime change. In war, you don't see civilians blocking the way of tanks and tanks swerving to avoid killing them. This is simply a brothers quarrel. If it was real war, Russia will flatten Ukraine in 1 hour with all sorts of missiles and thermobaric bombs and turn the whole country to rubble. That's without even going nuclear.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:11am On Mar 01, 2022
benalvino3:
Russia has more nukes than any nation in the world and they have the most powerful and also they have the fastest missiles which is impossible or almost impossible to intercept.

They can launch via land, sea and air. Their sub can be anywhere and launch a ballistic missile to NATO nations.
Will Son of Star Wars not block most of these nukes?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:13am On Mar 01, 2022
budaatum:
They think it mutually assures their destruction, but do not avoid informing me how wrong I am if a nuke is ever used.

A nation that uses nukes on any nation would only not be nuked itself because of human mercy.

We will blame Putin, for instance if he uses them, and would find it hard to nuke Russians.
If Putin uses nuke and is not deposed within 12 hours, Russia will be flattened with nukes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 12:14am On Mar 01, 2022
feedthenation:
---This is serious freefall---the U.S. and the West have used economic sanctions to bring down the Russian currency and economy without firing one bullet or missile---'the pen is indeed mightier than the sword'---
100%

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 12:50am On Mar 01, 2022
---The biggest social distance meeting in the Kremlin---Putin always conducting meeting over long table---

---Putin meeting his Economic Advisors today---

---Putin meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov---

---Putin meeting with Macron---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:07am On Mar 01, 2022
Ibime:
If Putin uses nuke and is not deposed within 12 hours, Russia will be flattened with nukes
I think he'd be deposed immediately he gives the order. Those around him can not all be mad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:23am On Mar 01, 2022
Ibime:
This not a war, more like a "Police Action" to effect regime change. In war, you don't see civilians blocking the way of tanks and tanks swerving to avoid killing them. This is simply a brothers quarrel. If it was real war, Russia will flatten Ukraine in 1 hour with all sorts of missiles and thermobaric bombs and turn the whole country to rubble. That's without even going nuclear.
Putin is obviously taking things easy with Ukraine because he doesnt want to really destroy Ukraine
He simply wants to take away the current leader and put his own puppet there. He probably feels the west fueled the removal of his favourite Yanokovych some years ago

If Putin wants to really destroy Ukraine as in all out war it wont take him 24hours. He doesnt want to hand over a destroyed country to his own puppet. He just wants to surgically remove Zelensky for his own man to be president. His own puppet who will within 48hrs sign an agreement with Mother Russia to protect it or hand over its military to Russia

I wont be shocked if the proposals in Belarus by Russia involve Zelensky stepping down for a new election and somehow Yanukovych or some Russian stooge wins a "free and fair" election by 95% of votes
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:24am On Mar 01, 2022
Some people here were cheering at China taking a Jab at the socalled maga saying even China does not align with Russia and maga are wrong about good China.

Budaatum pointed a key information on the source the poster used...

Well, China is fully in support of Russia, in fact, they are ready to back Russia financially.

Russia’s Gazprom has announced a major gas deal with China with the construction of a new oil pipeline to supply 50 billion cubic meters a year to Beijing. They’re creating a separate economy.

The goal is to end American dominance of the petrodollar and establish a new standard that every one of their trading partners will get onboard with. They have been trying to do this since 2014 or even earlier. Brics... The B stands for Brazil and the S stands for South Africa

The west are pushing heavily on Climate change and funny enough, they will still rely heavily on China for batteries

Pretty soon, if they can pull this off, sanctions will not be very effective
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 11:05am On Mar 01, 2022
Ibime:
If Putin uses nuke and is not deposed within 12 hours, Russia will be flattened with nukes
If Putin even seriously plans to use nukes, I'm sure someone in the Russian government would try to take him out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:17am On Mar 01, 2022
BasedUsername:
If Putin even seriously plans to use nukes, I'm sure someone in the Russian government would try to take him out.
If Putin wants to use nukes, there are people in his chains of command that are willing to push the button.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 1:19pm On Mar 01, 2022
To be forewarnedhuh

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta:
seankafor:
To be forewarnedhuh
Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
benalvino3:
Some people here were cheering at China taking a Jab at the socalled maga saying even China does not align with Russia and maga are wrong about good China.

Budaatum pointed a key information on the source the poster used...

Well, China is fully in support of Russia, in fact, they are ready to back Russia financially.

Russia’s Gazprom has announced a major gas deal with China with the construction of a new oil pipeline to supply 50 billion cubic meters a year to Beijing. They’re creating a separate economy.

The goal is to end American dominance of the petrodollar and establish a new standard that every one of their trading partners will get onboard with. They have been trying to do this since 2014 or even earlier. Brics... The B stands for Brazil and the S stands for South Africa

The west are pushing heavily on Climate change and funny enough, they will still rely heavily on China for batteries

Pretty soon, if they can pull this off, sanctions will not be very effective
China that has not lifted either it's people nor North Korea out of poverty will lift Russia out?

Sanctions are effective. If you are not on good terms with the West, you go starve. Russia needs to join the West. They are no longer communists, the only problem is they refuse to embrace democracy. These are all Europeans. At the end of the day, Oyinbo will always let Oyinbo into the club as long as they behave themselves.

Putin even said he asked Bill Clinton if Russia can join NATO in 2000. I believe when they get rid of their KGB people and embrace democracy, they will find their European brothers again as it was in the days of the Tsars. The West will be smart to not allow Russia fall into China's hands. If conflict arises with China in the future, there is nothing better than having Russia on your side who not only have military capability but are on the border with China. Germany has been trying to bring Russia into the European fold for a while but Putin and this Ukraine issue keep dragging them to their past. I see no reason for Russia not to join the EU if they can embrace democracy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 2:43pm On Mar 01, 2022
feedthenation:
---The biggest social distance meeting in the Kremlin---Putin always conducting meeting over long table---

---Putin meeting his Economic Advisors today---

---Putin meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov---

---Putin meeting with Macron---
Paranoia

Man Isa afraid andi nat trust Efen Isa own shadow
grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 2:46pm On Mar 01, 2022
I gife up Onu Naijeriyans

Maybe dey ah married ta ukrianians like da dudes belows

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:07pm On Mar 01, 2022
gambojimeta:
I gife up Onu Naijeriyans

Maybe dey ah married ta ukrianians like da dudes belows
I can understand not wanting to leave your wife and kids behind.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:09pm On Mar 01, 2022
Ibime:
China that has not lifted either it's people nor North Korea out of poverty will lift Russia out?

Sanctions are effective. If you are not on good terms with the West, you go starve. Russia needs to join the West. They are no longer communists, the only problem is they refuse to embrace democracy. These are all Europeans. At the end of the day, Oyinbo will always let Oyinbo into the club as long as they behave themselves.

Putin even said he asked Bill Clinton if Russia can join NATO in 2000. I believe when they get rid of their KGB people and embrace democracy, they will find their European brothers again as it was in the days of the Tsars. The West will be smart to not allow Russia fall into China's hands. If conflict arises with China in the future, there is nothing better than having Russia on your side who not only have military capability but are on the border with China. Germany has been trying to bring Russia into the European fold for a while but Putin and this Ukraine issue keep dragging them to their past. I see no reason for Russia not to join the EU if they can embrace democracy
Who knows, maybe after Putin's death.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:15pm On Mar 01, 2022
BasedUsername:
Who knows, maybe after Putin's death.
The longer put's in, the more sanctions will squeeze Russians and make them desperate for change.

View in some corridors is another Around the World Spring. The world needs the reset.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 4:19pm On Mar 01, 2022
BasedUsername:
I can understand not wanting to leave your wife and kids behind.
True
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 4:21pm On Mar 01, 2022
Boris just said that if NATO is to ensure a no flight zone in Ukraine, it will involve shooting down Russian ariplanes and that is not in the plans of NATO..

So how exactly are they going to stop Russians ?

Sanctions?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 4:34pm On Mar 01, 2022
budaatum:
The longer put's in, the more sanctions will squeeze Russians and make them desperate for change.

View in some corridors is another Around the World Spring. The world needs the reset.
Or alienate and radicalize the general Russian population. Remember how the sanctions imposed on Germany after WWI helped set the stage that gave rise to Hitler.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:58pm On Mar 01, 2022
BasedUsername:
Or alienate and radicalize the general Russian population. Remember how the sanctions imposed on Germany after WWI helped set the stage that gave rise to Hitler.
More information available these days so Putin will find it harder to brainwash Russians.

I hope.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum:
seankafor:
Boris just said that if NATO is to ensure a no flight zone in Ukraine, it will involve shooting down Russian ariplanes and that is not in the plans of NATO..

So how exactly are they going to stop Russians ?

Sanctions?
They are powerful. Somewhat.

Russia in Financial Crisis (Again), Ruble Collapses (Again), Central Bank Does Mother of All Rate Hikes (Again), US Stocks Shrug (Again)
https://wolfstreet.com/2022/02/28/russia-in-financial-crisis-again-ruble-collapses-again-central-bank-does-mother-of-all-rate-hikes-again-us-stocks-shrug-again/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:11pm On Mar 01, 2022
I ah nat support disi proxy gueralla war again. I ah hope ita end quicks

Battleground Isa Ukraine . Unnessary lose of lifes

Ukraine Isa goin ta get destroyed becos ofu da ego of Putin, North Amelika and EU

Da winner: weapon manufacturers

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:27pm On Mar 01, 2022
China’s Share of Global Chip Sales Now Surpasses Taiwan’s, Closing in on Europe’s and Japan’s
https://www.semiconductors.org/chinas-share-of-global-chip-sales-now-surpasses-taiwan-closing-in-on-europe-and-japan/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:17pm On Mar 01, 2022
Ibime:
China that has not lifted either it's people nor North Korea out of poverty will lift Russia out?

Sanctions are effective. If you are not on good terms with the West, you go starve. Russia needs to join the West. They are no longer communists, the only problem is they refuse to embrace democracy. These are all Europeans. At the end of the day, Oyinbo will always let Oyinbo into the club as long as they behave themselves.

Putin even said he asked Bill Clinton if Russia can join NATO in 2000. I believe when they get rid of their KGB people and embrace democracy, they will find their European brothers again as it was in the days of the Tsars. The West will be smart to not allow Russia fall into China's hands. If conflict arises with China in the future, there is nothing better than having Russia on your side who not only have military capability but are on the border with China. Germany has been trying to bring Russia into the European fold for a while but Putin and this Ukraine issue keep dragging them to their past. I see no reason for Russia not to join the EU if they can embrace democracy
Sanctions are not effective as you may think. Putin is a dictator, he will be the president of Russia until 2036. Putin does not really care about his people as you already know about other dictators. Putin does not leave Russia, he is rich but he does not really see that as important.

North Korea has been. Surving despite all the sanctions. U know, the people at the top are not really affected by the sanctions... Only the people they subjugate are affected.

I don't think Russia or putin cares about this sanction and his alliance with China may help ease the effect.

Putin asking to join NATO is a joke because to counter NATO is the reason he is who he is today. Read about the guy.

Putin was elected, Russia is a democratic, federative, law-based state with a republican form of government. State power is divided among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches.

One would say Russia is like Canada and Justin's leadership where peaceful protesters are silenced, arrested and all their assets ceased. Russia is a dictatorship like Canada.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:25pm On Mar 01, 2022
---why is Belarusian president involve in Putin war against Ukraine---thought Putin is doing peacekeeping mission to destroy the neo-nazi in Ukraine---

Lukashenko asks Putin for missiles, claims Russia death toll ‘fake’
Alexander Lukashenko has asked his ally Vladimir Putin to deploy an additional S-400 missile complex west of Minsk.
This was reported by Russian news agency RIA, citing Belarusian state news agency Belta.
The complex is needed to defend the territory of Belarus, the Belarusian leader was quoted as saying.
Lukashenko, addressing his security council on the sixth day of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, pointed to a huge map of Ukraine during the meeting.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:28pm On Mar 01, 2022
feedthenation:
---why is Belarusian president involve in Putin war against Ukraine---thought Putin is doing peacekeeping mission to destroy the neo-nazi in Ukraine---

Lukashenko asks Putin for missiles, claims Russia death toll ‘fake’
Alexander Lukashenko has asked his ally Vladimir Putin to deploy an additional S-400 missile complex west of Minsk.
This was reported by Russian news agency RIA, citing Belarusian state news agency Belta.
The complex is needed to defend the territory of Belarus, the Belarusian leader was quoted as saying.
Lukashenko, addressing his security council on the sixth day of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, pointed to a huge map of Ukraine during the meeting.
Belarus is Russias puppet nation.

They may join Russia in invading Ukraine
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