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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:10pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
This post shows the gibberish of your mind.

Clean it up some and I might respond to it.
What part of what I said is wrong?
John Durham finding proves Obama and Biden were briefed about the fake Russia collusion Hillary was cooking.

Which of what I said can you refute?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:13pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
Cohen is a lawyer. He knows the difference between a crime and a "non crime", and was smart enough to hire a lawyer who worked in his own interest. After all, if Cohen lied it would cost him.

But of course, your kraken excuse will be more valid to you than the truth.
Of course he is a lawyer. But they have to implicate trump some how so let me get a lawyer that works for my boss enemy to defend me. grin pleaded guilty to a non crime and point his finger at trump.

Also avinatti is or was a lawyer... He is in prison but he knows the difference between a crime and a non crime too
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:13pm On Mar 05, 2022
And this has to do with pleading guilty to sedition on Jan 6, how?

benalvino3:
What part of what I said is wrong?
John Durham finding proves Obama and Biden were briefed by the fake Russia collusion Hillary was cooking.

Which of what I said can you refute?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:16pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Of course he is a lawyer. But they have to implicate trump some how so let me get a lawyer that works for my boss enemy to defend me. grin pleaded guilty to a non crime and point his finger at trump.
Ben! First, they got a lawyer who worked for you for years to accuse you of a crime!

What does that say about you?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:18pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
And this has to do with pleading guilty to sedition on Jan 6, how?
It. Has to do
A plot to kidnap a governor... Someone rushed to plead guilty, he must have gotten a good deal but as it stance... The fbi is more guilty in entrapment.

So all the examples of guilty plea that are phony will make you wonder if the FBI are making crap up again. So till they indict others with hard evidence for seditious conspiracy... This is another BS to change the talking point or mockery people give them for no indictment of sedition.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:20pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
Ben! First, they got a lawyer who worked for you for years to accuse you of a crime!

What does that say about you?
It says Cohen is a full who goes around recording conversations of his friends to use to blackmail them. He tried with trump but there was nothing. He tried with Cuomo as well.

Maybe they promise him... He will be the hero who took down trump. He was too stupid to fall for it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:24pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
It. Has to do
A plot to kidnap a governor... Someone rushed to plead guilty, he must have gotten a good deal but as it stance... The fbi is more guilty in entrapment.

So all the examples of guilty plea that are phony will make you wonder if the FBI are making crap up again. So till they indict others with hard evidence for seditious conspiracy... This is another BS to change the talking point or mockery people give them for no indictment of sedition.
Somehow, I feel that if you are charged with a crime you did not commit, pleading guilty will be the last thing on your mind regardless of the cost of defending yourself, but please inform me how wrong I am about you so I can conclude that most people are not weaklings like you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:31pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
Somehow, I feel that if you are charged with a crime you did not commit, pleading guilty will be the last thing on your mind regardless of the cost of defending yourself, but please inform me how wrong I am about you so I can conclude that most people are not weaklings like you.
Hmmm.

I don't think you understand. There are people who are alive today because they pleaded guilty for a crime they did not commit.

A man charged with murder pleaded guilty for the crime and 20 years later, new evidence and DNA tech proved he was innocent.

Some wey no plead guilty don die go.

So sometimes there are some situation one will find himself, his lawyer will advise him to take the guilty plea.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:52pm On Mar 05, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
Oh my goodness when will you learn to stop conflating issues in the name of whataboutism, who was arguing about Clinton with you did you see me defending him like you are making excuses for RepubliQans by bringing in exaggerating things will you take several seats and stop defending the indefensible by saying oh they did it first so it is okay if I did it, that is not a defence anywhere

If your party even cared about issues of sexual misconduct which they impeached Clinton for Trump would not have been the nominee if RepubliQans had an ounce of shame the same ones like Lindsey Graham who voted to impeach Clinton would not have cowered to Trump and supported him when he became the nominee and all other offences agent orange committed.It only just exposes republiQan hypocrisy.

Do better
A party whose ex president is seen frolicking with minors should not be the one pointing at others for sexual misconduct
Graham voted to impeach Clinton for perjury which is lying under oath. everyone know this
Despite being impeached despite the hundreds of women who accused Clinton, He still will go after underaged girls

Democrats if they have any shame shouldnt talk about sexual crimes of any other party
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:52pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Hmmm.

I don't think you understand. There are people who are alive today because they pleaded guilty for a crime they did not commit.
For a lesser crime than the one they committed or might be found guilty of, usually.

If you commit first degree murder and feel the evidence is against you, I'm sure even you'd be smart enough to plead guilty to second degree, in Texas.

benalvino3:
A man charged with murder pleaded guilty for the crime and 20 years later, new evidence and DNA tech proved he was innocent.
And it does happen a lot, but still a tiny percentage of convicts, and it's disingenuous to claim that is the case with the guilty Jan 6 insurrectionist!

benalvino3:
So sometimes there are some situation one will find himself, his lawyer will advise him to take the guilty plea.
Sometimes, Ben, but likely not for Jan 6..His lawyer will have advised him to take the guilty plea only because of the compelling evidence presented against him when charged or they'd have left his faith to a jury!

Or perhaps you don't reckon the lawyer has a reputation to uphold. I bet you wouldn't hire a lawyer who tells his clients to plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit. Or would you not check client reviews before choosing your lawyer, Ben?

Too much special interest rests on it for that, and if money was his problem I'm certain Marjorie and Gops would have gladly chipped in and crowd funded for him, though I'm certain drumptghf wouldn't so as not to implicate himself by association.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:55pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
So sometimes there are some situation one will find himself, his lawyer will advise him to take the guilty plea.
Simple question, ben. Would you plead guilty to a crime you did not commit just because the lawyer you hired and pay advised you to?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f):
raumdeuter:
A party whose ex president is seen frolicking with minors should not be the one pointing at others for sexual misconduct
Graham voted to impeach Clinton for perjury which is lying under oath. everyone know this
Despite being impeached despite the hundreds of women who accused Clinton, He still will go after underaged girls

Democrats if they have any shame shouldnt talk about sexual crimes of any other party
Lol, party of family values your hypocrisy is glaring and learn to stop the whataboutism nobody was talking about Bill Clinton just to cover up for Trump, Gaetz, Van Taylor, Don Shooter, Brandon Hixon,Nick Sauer and oh Tim Murphy the one who was sponsoring an anti-abortion bill but was caught telling his mistress to get an abortion the hypocrisy of the party of family values.
Stop making excuses nobody is fighting you here or defending Clinton you are just being paranoid, these are disgusting acts done by these men and you should call it out and not take sides nobody on this thread did whataboutism to defend Cuomo pivoting to republicans do it and get away with it so why shouldn't democrats the way you usually do in order to defend republiQans Cuomo and Al-Franken resigned but Trump and Gaetz are part of the open big tent of the GQP just look at the way you are drinking panadol to defend the GQP and it's sexual offenders what a shame.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:09pm On Mar 05, 2022
budaatum:
Simple question, ben. Would you plead guilty to a crime you did not commit just because the lawyer you hired and pay advised you to?
Like I said, sometimes you will find yourself in a situation where pleading guilty is the only reasonable thing to do.

Have you seen someone who was set up before? With incriminating evidence planted on the scene despite him being innocent. Michael Flynn finds himself in that situation.

So depending on the situation, I will plead guilty for a crime I did not commit as long as it gives me hope.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 10:14pm On Mar 05, 2022
Banchotmods:
Ya ma pussy and tha AmazonTopaz pussy which one isa smell like PrideofLincoln1 ex ah pussy grin
Basilico, Ramdeuter andi benaldino ah ya pussies.

Ya Isa lick dere arsehole ta shine

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 10:16pm On Mar 05, 2022
basilico:
you seem to be talking to a stone. Orange man bad. The rest of leftist scum can do no wrong.
Ya ah fery dense

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:18pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Like I said, sometimes you will find yourself in a situation where pleading guilty is the only reasonable thing to do.
And as I said, sometimes. But assuming a Jan 6 insurrectionist pled guilty to an insurrection they did not commit is what a brainless person would claim because it just isn't the only reasonable thing to do.

You yourself have repeatedly claimed here that Jan 6 was not an insurrection, and I'd expect you to defend that thought till the day you die, but if you ever decide to change your mind and plead guilty to insurrecting on Jan 6, please do mention me so I don't miss it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta:
benalvino3:
Michael Cohen pleaded Guilty to a non crime of paying hush money to stormy. Guess who made him plea guilty to that... Clinton lawyer so he can implicate trump.

So budaatum saying getting a lawyer is mute. Some cant afford it... Some lawyers will work against you. Expecially when it's government related
stooopid lies Fram da jabulani donkey

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 10:21pm On Mar 05, 2022
raumdeuter:
A party whose ex president is seen frolicking with minors should not be the one pointing at others for sexual misconduct
Graham voted to impeach Clinton for perjury which is lying under oath. everyone know this
Despite being impeached despite the hundreds of women who accused Clinton, He still will go after underaged girls

Democrats if they have any shame shouldnt talk about sexual crimes of any other party
Kikikikikikiki

Disi FOB niqqa andi ah stooopid whatabutism eferytimes

Ya ah nefa get da tired ofu compare apples witi agbalumos efery gardem times

Democrat ah nefa claims ta be party ofu family values..

Geti dat inta ya thick skull


Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:24pm On Mar 05, 2022
benalvino3:
So depending on the situation, I will plead guilty for a crime I did not commit as long as it gives me hope.
As for this, I just have to shake my head at you because I can not see what hope you'd get from pleading guilty to a crime you did not commit.

Perhaps if we name the crimes you'd reconsider.

First on the list is rape of a minor. Let me know what hope you get from pleading guilty to raping a minor you never raped. Then consider pleading guilty to a murder you never committed and let me know the hope you receive.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:35pm On Mar 05, 2022
---Ex-president ‘responsible’ for Jan 6 says Bill Barr---

Former Attorney General Bill Barr told NBC News he does think former President Donald Trump was “responsible” for the January 6 Capitol riot.

In an interview with anchor Lester Holt, Mr Barr said: “I do think he was responsible in the broad sense of that word.”

“It appears that part of the plan was to send this group up to the Hill,” with the former president’s goal to “intimidate Congress”.

This week, a court filing from the Capitol riot House investigation alleges Mr Trump and a lawyer who assisted with his re-election campaign were part of a “criminal conspiracy” to overturn the 2020 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-news-live-ex-president-responsible-for-jan-6-says-bill-barr/ar-AAUAfSi?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
These two conspiracy drinkers Basilico and Benalvino wrote a lot of trash without highlighting the difference between the Oathkeeper guys case and others on Jan 6th who got let off with trespassing charges, some with just a slap on the wrist and many without even a custodial sentence. Escaping a heavy custodial sentence from Jan 6th is one of the easiest and light court cases you can fight due to the sheer volume of people prosecutors are dealing with. Cases of mass disorder usually see offenders go scott free or with light punishments.

The key difference with the Oathkeeper was the premeditated planning and handing out of a cache of ammunitions, and detailed plans for engaging in an armed confrontation with the National guard. Therein lies the step-up from trespassing to seditious conspiracy.

Most of the time, the varying niche and off-brand topics that these two coons discuss in detailed agreement with each other will have you shaking your head at the web of alternate reality programming that they have enmeshed themselves in. It is from these two coons I get to learn the hot-topics programmed into cultists by the alternate reality thought-formers on the darkest parts of the internet.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:45pm On Mar 05, 2022
Ibime:
These two conspiracy drinkers Basilico and Benalvino wrote a lot of trash without highlighting the difference between the Oathkeeper guys case and others on Jan 6th who got let off with trespassing charges, some with just a slap on the wrist and many without even a custodial sentence. Escaping a heavy custodial sentence from Jan 6th I one of the easiest and light court cases you can fight due to the sheer volume of people prosecutors are dealing with. Cases of mass disorder usually see offenders go scott free or with light slaps of the wrist.

The key difference was the premeditated planning and handing out a cache of ammunitions, and plans for engaging in a armed confrontation with the National guard. Therein lies the step-up from trespassing to seditious conspiracy.

Most of the time, the varying niche and off-brand topics that these two coons discuss in detailed agreement with each other will have you shaking your head at the web of alternate reality programming that they have enmeshed themselves in. It is from these two coons I get to learn the hot-topics programmed into cultists by the alternate reality thought-formers on the darkest parts of the internet.
I knew someone will eventually come and burst the bubble of ignorance they love dwelling in.

grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
budaatum:
As for this, I just have to shake my head at you because I can not see what hope you'd get from pleading guilty to a crime you did not commit.

Perhaps if we name the crimes you'd reconsider.

First on the list is rape of a minor. Let me know what hope you get from pleading guilty to raping a minor you never raped. Then consider pleading guilty to a murder you never committed and let me know the hope you receive.
Whats wrong with you.

A plea bargain (also plea agreement or plea deal) is an agreement in criminal law proceedings, whereby the prosecutor provides a concession to the defendant in exchange for a plea of guilt or nolo contendere

If you are indicted on four counts, the prosecutor might decided it's a waste of time proving the other three, so you plead to one.

Ditto you can accept to plead guilty when innocent if it's going to drain you.

You want a court to detain your passport when you are about to travel?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 3:47am On Mar 06, 2022
basilico:
Whats wroing with you.

A plea bargain (also plea agreement or plea deal) is an agreement in criminal law proceedings, whereby the prosecutor provides a concession to the defendant in exchange for a plea of guilt or nolo contendere

If you are indicted on four count's, the prosecutor night decided it's a waste of time provinng the other three, so you plead to one.

Ditto you can accept to plead guilty when innocent when it's going to drain you.

You want a court to detain your passport when you are about to travel?
grin

Kikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:55am On Mar 06, 2022
Swallowed left wing trashy media till you can not see all these cases are about the left dividing people by race,color, gender and sexuality.
The two cases are the left seeking anything to tag someone a white supremacist.
Wake me up when the Ray Epps is indicted .
Brandon Straka did enter the capitol yet they sentenced him to probation though.
Most of these people are being sentenced by Obama appointed judges I must add. You too blind to see that .

Ibime:
These two conspiracy drinkers Basilico and Benalvino wrote a lot of trash without highlighting the difference between the Oathkeeper guys case and others on Jan 6th who got let off with trespassing charges, some with just a slap on the wrist and many without even a custodial sentence. Escaping a heavy custodial sentence from Jan 6th is one of the easiest and light court cases you can fight due to the sheer volume of people prosecutors are dealing with. Cases of mass disorder usually see offenders go scott free or with light punishments.

The key difference with the Oathkeeper was the premeditated planning and handing out of a cache of ammunitions, and detailed plans for engaging in an armed confrontation with the National guard. Therein lies the step-up from trespassing to seditious conspiracy.

Most of the time, the varying niche and off-brand topics that these two coons discuss in detailed agreement with each other will have you shaking your head at the web of alternate reality programming that they have enmeshed themselves in. It is from these two coons I get to learn the hot-topics programmed into cultists by the alternate reality thought-formers on the darkest parts of the internet.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:18am On Mar 06, 2022
Ibime:
These two conspiracy drinkers Basilico and Benalvino wrote a lot of trash without highlighting the difference between the Oathkeeper guys case and others on Jan 6th who got let off with trespassing charges, some with just a slap on the wrist and many without even a custodial sentence. Escaping a heavy custodial sentence from Jan 6th is one of the easiest and light court cases you can fight due to the sheer volume of people prosecutors are dealing with. Cases of mass disorder usually see offenders go scott free or with light punishments.

The key difference with the Oathkeeper was the premeditated planning and handing out of a cache of ammunitions, and detailed plans for engaging in an armed confrontation with the National guard. Therein lies the step-up from trespassing to seditious conspiracy.

Most of the time, the varying niche and off-brand topics that these two coons discuss in detailed agreement with each other will have you shaking your head at the web of alternate reality programming that they have enmeshed themselves in. It is from these two coons I get to learn the hot-topics programmed into cultists by the alternate reality thought-formers on the darkest parts of the internet.
Locking people up in solitary confinement for weeks is not slap on the wrist. Trespassing is not supposed to drag people up and down mud.

What we are saying is this maybe another case of the FBI cooking up bullshit for fanatics like yourself to masturbate on and we are waiting to see others charged for the same crime with evidence before we can believe the FBI. It's not the first time they have pulled out crap from their arse.

So all the stuff you typed above is irrelevant. Another one of your I too Sabi in play.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:23am On Mar 06, 2022
budaatum:
As for this, I just have to shake my head at you because I can not see what hope you'd get from pleading guilty to a crime you did not commit.

Perhaps if we name the crimes you'd reconsider.

First on the list is rape of a minor. Let me know what hope you get from pleading guilty to raping a minor you never raped. Then consider pleading guilty to a murder you never committed and let me know the hope you receive.
I have already gave u instances of people who plead guilty, escape death penalty only to be acquitted 10 years or more after tech advancement brought out new evidence. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Lawyers encourage their clients to plead guilty all the times even for crimes they did not commit. You should know this if not you should watch ID Channel for a bit.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:18am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
I have already gave u instances of people who plead guilty, escape death penalty only to be acquitted 10 years or more after tech advancement brought out new evidence. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Lawyers encourage their clients to plead guilty all the times even for crimes they did not commit. You should know this if not you should watch ID Channel for a bit.
They don't understand how you are online forever and not in the west for once. Jealousy. Remember your 'broken' dash board lights.
They think being in the UK makes them more knowledgeable.
When it comes to rape of a minor which judge will let you walk? Paedo crimes are not the only ones in the court roster. Buda is just being mischievous and looking for an exit like he always does when cornered bringing up other nonsense. Like you put up a list of guilty plea with a child minor charge. I'm honestly thoroughly pis.sed of by Budaatum.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:27am On Mar 06, 2022
basilico:
They don't understand how you are online forever and not in the west for once. Jealousy. Remember your 'broken' dash board lights.
They think being in the UK makes them more knowledgeable.
When it comes to rape of a minor which judge will let you walk? Paedo crimes are not the only ones in the court roster. Buda is just being mischievous and looking for an exit like he always does when cornered bringing up other nonsense. Like you put up a list of guilty plea with a child minor charge. I'm honestly thoroughly pis.sed of by Budaatum.
It has always been like that sadly. I don't know if they have a trophy to win by arguing even when facts hit them.

Ibime is here with his coon talk like anything he says addresses what I initially said about seditious conspiracy and guilty plea deal.

After he will say Nigerians are dying of kidney disease like it is not worse in the UK. Trying to make someone feel as if they are in heaven and you are in hell. They just can't understand how we are not troubled by naija wahala.

It's not as if the FBI was not a big part of the Russia collusion lie handed to them by Hillary Clinton
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:39am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
It has always been like that sadly. I don't know if they have a trophy to win by arguing even when facts hit them.

Ibime is here with his coon talk like anything he says addresses what I initially said about seditious conspiracy and guilty plea deal.

After he will say Nigerians are dying of kidney disease like it is not worse in the UK. Trying to make someone feel as if they are in heaven and you are in hell. They just can't understand how we are not troubled by naija wahala.
Like a teacher dismissing your homework because you missed a comma, that's how they behave, Instead of substance in your writing they look for a missing comma to dismiss the whole report.
Very slow people. What we discuss here is not about prose, verbs or adjectives correctly used. That's figuratively what Budaa will do when he loses the gist of the story.
I'm so pissed off.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:10am On Mar 06, 2022
benalvino3:
They have found a someone who will take a deal. He has to plead guilty for a crime that does not exist. Since he pleaded guilty for seditious conspiracy... There has to be others in the oath keepers who will be indicted with that crime else it is a hogwash grin

People pleade guilty for crimes they did not commit all the time.
Banana republic.
Really.Wull get worse
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