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Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by ArewaTech1(m): 9:04am On Mar 08, 2022
Faber:
Ok...that's the best thing to say. Russia have to be ready cos fighter jets from no where will enter Ukraine that's what this means.

With this statement, he cannot hold anyone responsible. American mercenaries are coming in. These guys wants to outsmart Putin. They know Poland shares borders with Belarus. So it will be dangerous for Poland, if Poland directly helps Ukraine, Putin will attack them from Belarus. Now they want to use Romania or Bulgaria who are NATO members.
The jets will enter from Bulgaria and fly through the Black sea into Ukraine or through Chisinau in Romania.

The jets will come in, but the question will be "who sent Ukraine the Jets?" grin grin

OGA YOU THINK SAY YOU SMART? NA WA O
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by buJu234: 9:11am On Mar 08, 2022
so why is the US & UK not sending their airplanes?

they are just pushing EU countries to just go and die yet keep their soldiers far away (only few hundred)..

dem nor try..

that is how the US & UK push for Russian gas shut-off,

yet they have an abundance of gas from Qatar etc; to keep their population warm yet EU has little or no cheaper option.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Quiny32323: 9:13am On Mar 08, 2022
oluwaahmed:


Vietnam, Afghanistan were patriots. They would rather die fighting than die running. Ukrainians are running away in their millions, so who's going to fight the guerilla war?

Did you hear about the 80k plus volunteers heading to Ukraine, better percentage of them are mercenaries payed by the west to keep the war raging and more are heading that way. It's either Russia pulls out or be trapped in the stupid war while it's economy is squeezed till the country implodes because Russia citizens are already frustrated.
https://www.ft.com/content/2a877400-50df-4878-8815-605405e92c68
The war is not what most of us thinks it's, for me it's a plot to weaken russia and putin foolishly took the hook.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Obiebanks007(m): 9:20am On Mar 08, 2022
phenase:
AMERICANS DONT KNOW THAT IF RUSSIA IS NUKED TODAY, THE HIDDEN MACHINES WILL AUTOMATICALLY TAKE OVER, THIS WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD. THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL WITH RUSSIA. THEY DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT RUSSIA CAPABILITIES. THEY HAVE MORE THAN WHAT THE EYES CAN SEE cool


I totally agree with you
You could see countries are scared helping Ukraine
You don't want start what you can't finish
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by millhouse: 9:21am On Mar 08, 2022
dfrost:
Let everyone be calming down.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki has shown everyone how deadly a nuclear weapon is.
our man here is anxiously waiting to press the button

Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by obailala(m): 9:27am On Mar 08, 2022
Jackanda1:
Russia started this whole crisis by taking over Crimea(Ukrainian territory).

Instead of finding peaceful ways to settle with ukraine, they gave arms to certain part of ukraine close to its border,(Donbas) leading to chaos and fighting inside ukraine.
Imagine Cameroon giving arms to IPOB. angry

The leaders of ukraine getting frustrated and afraid of what might come next, decide to ally with America and join NATO because of bullying from dictator Putin. Russia claim this is a threat to it security and decided to invade and kill ukranians.

It's the oppression, lies, land grabbing adventure and bullying from Russia that caused almost every country around Russia to want to join NATO, But russian trolls want you to think it's America's fault undecided
I'm guessing the reason the US is obsessed with winning over and placing deadly weapons in countries around Russia is purely to 'protect innocent countries from Russian invasion' right? The yanks are just benevolent messiahs who want to see everyone happy; thats why they've been obsessed with capturing countries around Russia.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by DeeMain(m): 9:43am On Mar 08, 2022
stagger:


You should stick to issues you are familiar with. I am guessing you were either not born in 1991 when the USSR collapsed, and so did not know what transpired between 1991 and 1994 when the Budapest Memorandum was signed. Maybe you were still a toddler wearing napkin or you were at best in primary school. So you do not know why Russia invaded Crimea.

Bro, he is right too. Budapest Memorandum says Ukraine should hand over all its nuclear weapons in exchange for a guarantee that they would not be invaded nor would their sovereignty be threatened by Russia. Guess who violated the agreement with impunity again and again? Yes, almighty imperial Russia.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by DMerciful(m): 9:50am On Mar 08, 2022
You know nothing how it started
Jackanda1:
Russia started this whole crisis by taking over Crimea(Ukrainian territory).

Instead of finding peaceful ways to settle with ukraine, they gave arms to certain part of ukraine close to its border,(Donbas) leading to chaos and fighting inside ukraine.
Imagine Cameroon giving arms to IPOB. angry

The leaders of ukraine getting frustrated and afraid of what might come next, decide to ally with America and join NATO because of bullying from dictator Putin. Russia claim this is a threat to it security and decided to invade and kill ukranians.

It's the oppression, lies, land grabbing adventure and bullying from Russia that caused almost every country around Russia to want to join NATO, But russian trolls want you to think it's America's fault undecided
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by dfrost: 9:55am On Mar 08, 2022
Quiny32323:


Leave Putin's rhetorics, he knows the meaning of MAD, meaning that all nuclear armed countries are free to test their nukes in Russia if he does that but he won't unless he is mad. The two countries are mad and foolish for falling into the trap set by the west. Ukraine is already obsolete but Russia will loose alot if they don't pull out because the war will soon turn to gorilla warfare which no country have ever won b4. America tried it with Vietnam and body tell them even Russia got their own dose from Afghanistan and they couldn't win but lost both material n men, the same is about to play out again and with the crazy sactions, it will take Russia years to be economically viable again.

True.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by aribisala0(m): 9:58am On Mar 08, 2022
Deejayprof:
God will take control of the situation and breathe Hos peace upon the world
So why did "God" create the problem in the first place
Is "God" doing Heavenwood movie for his angels??
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by dfrost: 9:58am On Mar 08, 2022
millhouse:
our man here is anxiously waiting to press the button

This one na noise maker.

Something his father didn't press, he wants to press.

The truth is no one wants to die. Hitler ran into a bunker and committed suicide. Same goes for Saddam, Gaddafi.

Even Putin na long table e dey use. cheesy
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by oluwaahmed: 9:59am On Mar 08, 2022
Quiny32323:


Did you hear about the 80k plus volunteers heading to Ukraine, better percentage of them are mercenaries payed by the west to keep the war raging and more are heading that way. It's either Russia pulls out or be trapped in the stupid war while it's economy is squeezed till the country implodes because Russia citizens are already frustrated.
https://www.ft.com/content/2a877400-50df-4878-8815-605405e92c68
The war is not what most of us thinks it's, for me it's a plot to weaken russia and putin foolishly took the hook.


Mercenaries are not loyal fighters. They are only loyal to their salary. You cannot compare them to vietkong fighters or the taliban. Also the Russian economy will not implode. Russia has $600BN as foreign reserves and many pol companies are still buying their oil and gas. Dont allow the Western media deceive you. Russia will take over Ukraine and nothing will happen.

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Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by farmfuseagros: 10:04am On Mar 08, 2022
samwillyco1:



cheesy grin grin grin
If America decide to nuke Russia today, there will first destroy all there nuclear arsenals with heavy bombardment and once it is done Russia will just came down. Russia is overrated and there greatest weapons are in submarine which USA will just contact Israel to take care of.
Is this a joke?
Abeg no talk am outside ooo
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Davemarine: 10:09am On Mar 08, 2022
Mynd44:
Oh well…..

I remember saying it days back that Poland will not send its jets to Ukraine because
1. They don't have enough for themselves in the first place
2. Sending the MIG-29s into Ukraine leaves a vacumn that cannot be immediately filled as America wont send them replacements immediately.

Some said Poland does not need the Jets immediately because if Russia attacks Poland NATO Will respond but how long before NATO responds? If Polish skies are left undefended until NATO responds, then there might not be a Poland at all if Russia decided to do the unthinkable and strike them

Oga, NATO is currently on high alert in the whole of that region.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by farmfuseagros: 10:11am On Mar 08, 2022
drlateef:




You are not a good student of history. The whole saga started when NATO refused Russia to join it. Then Russia decided to align with Asians including Chinese. And you remember the promise at end of Cold War that NATO must not expand eastward. America refused to obey the gentleman agreement. Then in 2014, CIA staged a coup in Ukraine so as to replace the pro-Russia government and installed a Jewish man who is pro-west as leader. This leader started mulling the idea of bringing NATO to Ikrsine and also oppressed the ethnic Russians in Creamia and other cities. That’s why Russia intervened to weaken Ukraine and protect the ethic Russians. And also to send warning signals to the pro-west leader that war was imminent. Despite that, and based on assurance from NATO, the leader accepted to have NATO advanced weapons in his territory. Putin could not take it anymore. America will never allow Russia in Mexico or any country near to them. I hope this balances your skewed account.
Your first sentence is misinformation
Russia never attempted to join NATO
Never!
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Quiny32323: 10:11am On Mar 08, 2022
oluwaahmed:


Mercenaries are not loyal fighters. They are only loyal to their salary. You cannot compare them to vietkong fighters or the taliban. Also the Russian economy will not implode. Russia has $600BN as foreign reserves and many pol companies are still buying their oil and gas. Dont allow the Western media deceive you. Russia will take over Ukraine and nothing will happen.

Well the west don't care about their loyalty, all they want is to destabilize that region and drive russia into economic frustration which they are achieving and iam happy you said the reserve is in dollars and what that means is that america is taking care of the 600 billion usd 4 them as well, it's a proxy war and a big tool in the hands of the west. Putin could have stayed at the Ukrainian border as long as they want and keep the west on their toes but he was foolish to invade Ukraine!!!
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by oluwaahmed: 10:25am On Mar 08, 2022
Quiny32323:


Well the west don't care about their loyalty, all they want is to destabilize that region and drive russia into economic frustration which they are achieving and iam happy you said the reserve is in dollars and what that means is that america is taking care of the 600 billion usd 4 them as well, it's a proxy war and a big tool in the hands of the west. Putin could have stayed at the Ukrainian border as long as they want and keep the west on their toes but he was foolish to invade Ukraine!!!

No bro, their reserves in dollars does not mean it is stored in the US. It only means that as the dollar appreciates, so will the value of their reserves. Also the numerous sanctions has made Russia a rogue state meaning that the US has basically increased the number of rogue states. Therefore Russia will trade with China, Vietnam, N.korea, Iran creating a parallel economy. Dont get me wrong, the Russian economy will suffer in the short-rin but will rebouncein the long-run especially as they are still trading with the 2nd largest economy in the world(China) while many African countries Ashill repay their interest loans and rely on the for military hardware.

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Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Naughtysex: 10:29am On Mar 08, 2022
Faber:
Ok...that's the best thing to say. Russia have to be ready cos fighter jets from no where will enter Ukraine that's what this means.

With this statement, he cannot hold anyone responsible. American mercenaries are coming in. These guys wants to outsmart Putin. They know Poland shares borders with Belarus. So it will be dangerous for Poland, if Poland directly helps Ukraine, Putin will attack them from Belarus. Now they want to use Romania or Bulgaria who are NATO members.
The jets will enter from Bulgaria and fly through the Black sea into Ukraine or through Chisinau in Romania.

The jets will come in, but the question will be "who sent Ukraine the Jets?" grin grin
Although i'm supporting Russia but you are smart with this thinking
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Danisaint112(m): 10:57am On Mar 08, 2022
Jackanda1:
Russia started this whole crisis by taking over Crimea(Ukrainian territory).

Instead of finding peaceful ways to settle with ukraine, they gave arms to certain part of ukraine close to its border,(Donbas) leading to chaos and fighting inside ukraine.
Imagine Cameroon giving arms to IPOB. angry

The leaders of ukraine getting frustrated and afraid of what might come next, decide to ally with America and join NATO because of bullying from dictator Putin. Russia claim this is a threat to it security and decided to invade and kill ukranians.

It's the oppression, lies, land grabbing adventure and bullying from Russia that caused almost every country around Russia to want to join NATO, But russian trolls want you to think it's America's fault undecided

Never you quote Ipob as an example in stuffs like this again. Don't you ever do that.

Go and read the story well. Donetsk and Lohansk aren't suffering one bit, there is no form of marginalization or whatsoever going on there, the people attested to that.

Putin just empowered rebels all in a bid to stop Ukraine (Zelenskyy) from joining NATO.

Mind you Ukraine has always wanted to join NATO even before Crimea was invaded in 2014.

They made the move in 2010 U.S.A agreed but request was turned down by France and Germany (the big boys in NATO) because Ukraine didn't meet up with their demand.

Which is having a conflict active region. Which was putin's doing all in a bid to stop them from joining NATO.

We Indegineous of Biafra aren't happy with Nigeria and her unending marginalization, dictatorship, constant torturing in form of policinng and opposing doesn't make us rebels.

Indegenes of the Donbas region loves Zelenskyy and also love UKraine.

The very few causing the trouble are just terrorists chAmpioned by dictator Putin.

Get that into your thick skull. sad
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Feelings79: 11:15am On Mar 08, 2022
Mynd44:
Oh well…..

I remember saying it days back that Poland will not send its jets to Ukraine because
1. They don't have enough for themselves in the first place
2. Sending the MIG-29s into Ukraine leaves a vacumn that cannot be immediately filled as America wont send them replacements immediately.

Some said Poland does not need the Jets immediately because if Russia attacks Poland NATO Will respond but how long before NATO responds? If Polish skies are left undefended until NATO responds, then there might not be a Poland at all if Russia decided to do the unthinkable and strike them
my problem with our Nigerian people is we are too intellectually lazy to properly analyse and understand things.You think NATO is some kind of civil service that it will take them that long to respond? recall that America have precise intelligence that Russia will be invading Ukraine on that same Wednesday it attacked, infact Zelenski was even accusing the US of hyping things.The point I'm making is the US has always had a higher level of intelligence over these things.On the one hand,may I let you know that NATO is always in a state of war and it doesn't have to take them anytime to deter attacks not to talk of responding.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Malawian(m): 11:17am On Mar 08, 2022
Jackanda1:
Russia started this whole crisis by taking over Crimea(Ukrainian territory).

Instead of finding peaceful ways to settle with ukraine, they gave arms to certain part of ukraine close to its border,(Donbas) leading to chaos and fighting inside ukraine.
Imagine Cameroon giving arms to IPOB. angry

The leaders of ukraine getting frustrated and afraid of what might come next, decide to ally with America and join NATO because of bullying from dictator Putin. Russia claim this is a threat to it security and decided to invade and kill ukranians.

It's the oppression, lies, land grabbing adventure and bullying from Russia that caused almost every country around Russia to want to join NATO, But russian trolls want you to think it's America's fault undecided
When you say "Ukrainian Territory" does it account for nothing that the inhabitants of Crimea are ethnic Russians?
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by shomutuski(m): 11:18am On Mar 08, 2022
Faber:
Ok...that's the best thing to say. Russia have to be ready cos fighter jets from no where will enter Ukraine that's what this means.

With this statement, he cannot hold anyone responsible. American mercenaries are coming in. These guys wants to outsmart Putin. They know Poland shares borders with Belarus. So it will be dangerous for Poland, if Poland directly helps Ukraine, Putin will attack them from Belarus. Now they want to use Romania or Bulgaria who are NATO members.
The jets will enter from Bulgaria and fly through the Black sea into Ukraine or through Chisinau in Romania.

The jets will come in, but the question will be "who sent Ukraine the Jets?" grin grin


Crap talk from your shithole using cheap data as usual
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Jackanda1(m): 11:19am On Mar 08, 2022
Danisaint112:


Never you quote Ipob as an example in stuffs like this again. Don't you ever do that.

Go and read the story well. Donetsk and Lohansk aren't suffering one bit, there is no form of marginalization or whatsoever going on there, the people attested to that.

Putin just empowered rebels all in a bid to stop Ukraine (Zelenskyy) from joining NATO.

Mind you Ukraine has always wanted to join NATO even before Crimea was invaded in 2014.

They made the move in 2010 U.S.A agreed but request was turned down by France and Germany (the big boys in NATO) because Ukraine didn't meet up with their demand.

Which is having a conflict active region. Which was putin's did to stop em frm joining nato.
We Indegineous of Biafra aren't happy with Nigeria and her unending marginalization, dictatorship, constant torturing in form of policinng and opposing doesn't make us rebels.
i didn't mean to insult ipob in anyway. I'm very sympathetic to ur course. Apologise

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Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Feelings79: 11:21am On Mar 08, 2022
ayindejimmy:

Certainly,
NATO hasn't been doing enough. These are things they ought to have anticipated if they really planned to assist Ukraine or even defend Poland
NATO can't do much in the present circumstances.meanwhile,may l let you know that the US is merely using Ukraine as a pawn to further strangulate Russia economically.That's how the US typically goes about this things.How many bullets did they fire to destroy USSR? Can't you see how they have managed to freeze the Russian economy following this invasion? eventually the heat will become too much for Putin in his country and the eventual collapse of his regime.Forget those guys bro
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Jackanda1(m): 11:27am On Mar 08, 2022
Sltp:
but does America have the moral right to shout foul?
Russia and china also condemns and intervene in American wars too. You don't require a moral right to criticize.
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Feelings79: 11:28am On Mar 08, 2022
oluwaahmed:


No bro, their reserves in dollars does not mean it is stored in the US. It only means that as the dollar appreciates, so will the value of their reserves. Also the numerous sanctions has made Russia a rogue state meaning that the US has basically increased the number of rogue states. Therefore Russia will trade with China, Vietnam, N.korea, Iran creating a parallel economy. Dont get me wrong, the Russian economy will suffer in the short-rin but will rebouncein the long-run especially as they are still trading with the 2nd largest economy in the world(China) while many African countries Ashill repay their interest loans and rely on the for military hardware.
so where are they stored that you call them dollars and foreign?why then is the ruble fast losing its value?it should have been gaining strength,at least for speculative reasons as is always the case with dollars if your analysis are right.You think the west don't know what they are saying by freezing their foreign assets?if these sanctions were meant to be a tea party for Russia,why is Putin calling them a declaration of war?as we speak,no flights are leaving or flying into Russia neither is shipping,how does that make the Russian economy even stronger?go and read the history of how the USSR was destroyed without firing a bullets and let's chat better
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Feelings79: 11:35am On Mar 08, 2022
stagger:


You should stick to issues you are familiar with. I am guessing you were either not born in 1991 when the USSR collapsed, and so did not know what transpired between 1991 and 1994 when the Budapest Memorandum was signed. Maybe you were still a toddler wearing napkin or you were at best in primary school. So you do not know why Russia invaded Crimea.
of course I was a kid then.But my question is why did the mighty USSR collapse that easily? what assurances do we now have that Russia is now so powerful enough to overcome NATO and an even bigger America as we have it today? meanwhile I have always seen Russia, North Korea, China and Russia parade deadlier weapons but I have never seen Americans so parade theirs, doesn't mean the Americans don't have? just willing to learn
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by ken6488(m): 11:37am On Mar 08, 2022
donforeign:
una can talk like mumu..
Na only Russia get nuclear weapon?
Na wa
seems you don't understand simple English when I mean nuclear waste land

It includes Russian, and Europe

Both will nuke their selves out of existence
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Jackanda1(m): 11:39am On Mar 08, 2022
oluwaahmed:

Russia was offering to give Ukraine $15bn out of the $18bn without economic conditions, just interest rate payments. Now say the truth, if you were the president of Ukraine which would you collect? That's why the sponsored insurrection in his country and removed him in 2012, electing the comedian in 2014. allowing EU to deploy long range IBM in Ukraine.
EU removed the Ukrainian president because he refused to collect their money. grin Thats a very childish assertion grin
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by ken6488(m): 11:39am On Mar 08, 2022
Jackanda1:
You claim the USA is forcing Ukraine to join NATO, if that was true, don't you think Ukraine would already be in NATO right now? Do you know the kind of vigorous membership requirement a country needs before it can join? Abi you think NATO is market women association were you join overnight? grin

Why would the USA want to start a war with a Nuclear power like Russia by placing nukes in ukraine knowing the consequences. grin

You need to agree that Putin miscalculated, he should have responded more assertively, using force leads to counter force. Good night
Actually things are going as planned for Putin if Ukraine falls to meet his demands this week he will roll in his bomber

.actually it is not the first time USA is destroying a country I am not surprised
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by Jackanda1(m): 11:48am On Mar 08, 2022
Malawian:

When you say "Ukrainian Territory" does it account for nothing that the inhabitants of Crimea are ethnic Russians?
We have alot of Fulani/Hausa people in Niger Republic,is it ok if Nigeria invade and annex Niger republic?
Re: Poland Won't Give Its Fighter Jets Or Allow Ukraine Use Its Airports - Polish PM by dalass(f): 11:54am On Mar 08, 2022
Jackanda1:
Russia started this whole crisis by taking over Crimea(Ukrainian territory).

Instead of finding peaceful ways to settle with ukraine, they gave arms to certain part of ukraine close to its border,(Donbas) leading to chaos and fighting inside ukraine.
Imagine Cameroon giving arms to IPOB. angry

The leaders of ukraine getting frustrated and afraid of what might come next, decide to ally with America and join NATO because of bullying from dictator Putin. Russia claim this is a threat to it security and decided to invade and kill ukranians.

It's the oppression, lies, land grabbing adventure and bullying from Russia that caused almost every country around Russia to want to join NATO, But russian trolls want you to think it's America's fault undecided

What is called America today is land grabbed from shore to shore. In short, Australia, Canda etc had their lands grabbed by the British from native inhabitants... It may be many years ago, but it still doesn't make it right angry

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