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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:38pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
Why do you need an ID t a bank when the Bank statement shows your name and account number. How will they debit the wrong account when they alredy have your name and account number from the bank statement
You need id at a bank because the bank does not want to give it's money to the wrong person or they would not remain in business for long.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
You need id at a bank because the bank does not want to give it's money to the wrong person or they would not remain in business for long.
Same way the govt official in charge of voting does not want to give your voting right to the wrong person
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:41pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
So using this logic, why should work ID be used to vote in govt election not workplace election
Your work id shows your right to be on the premises and your admission to valuable machinery or your safety that an employer might be protecting, which is not a consideration when you vote.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:42pm On Mar 10, 2022
Nastymods:
there are videos of they/them admitting they are teaching Gender and sex to children. they peddle misinformation here and most of it you would think is ignorance but no... they just have to align with what the media is radiating.
I know them very well, they will turn around with another lie to defend the first lie

They said GOP is against Trans, Yet the law was because they said you shouldnt transition a minor

They said GOP law is against GAY yet they cannot show where Gay is written on the official documents

The American people know that the Democrats are up to no good, they lie compulsively,
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:43pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
Your work id shows your right to be on the premises and your admission to valuable machinery or your safety that an employer might be protecting, which is not a consideration when you vote.
Your govt ID shows that you are who you are and you have a right to vote in this election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:44pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
Thats some countries. For example in Nigeria I didnt have any form of ID till I was over 20yrs. In Nigeria at the time I left, I dont think local flight even required ID In America its needed. We use govt issued IDs for many things here
You don't yet use govt issued IDs for voting in America, thank Gott, which is why some states are now trying to introduce it.

They are trying it here too, by the way, for Ben who always accuses me of introducing UK. We are resisting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:46pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
Your govt ID shows that you are who you are and you have a right to vote in this election.
You'd never get it, will you. Government should not require I show a right I already have, and should in fact be protecting my rights instead of attempting to be the one who permits me to have rights that are already my rights.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:50pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
You'd never get it, will you. Government should not require I show a right I already have, and should in fact be protecting my rights instead of attempting to be the one who permits me to have rights that are already my rights.
you say a lot of nonsense, sometimes I think you are joking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:51pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
Same way the govt official in charge of voting does not want to give your voting right to the wrong person
It's America, right? A country where you can easily hunt me down and throw me in jail if it is found I was impersonating someone else, so give yourself some credit, why don't you.

I'm not asking them to give my voting rights to the wrong person, which is why I have turned up with the letter you sent me showing I registered for the right I am now exercising plus any id I do have showing you my name with my photocard on it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:52pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
You'd never get it, will you. Government should not require I show a right I already have, and should in fact be protecting my rights instead of attempting to be the one who permits me to have rights that are already my rights.
You have a right to your money in the bank also, why is the bank asking you to show an ID to get your right?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 8:53pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
It's America, right? A country where you can easily hunt me down and throw me in jail if it is found I was impersonating someone else, so give yourself some credit, why don't you.

I'm not asking them to give my voting rights to the wrong person, which is why I have turned up with the letter you sent me showing I registered for the right I am now exercising plus any id I do have showing you my name with my photocard on it.
Is this photocard issued by govt?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:53pm On Mar 10, 2022
benalvino3:
you say a lot of nonsense, sometimes I think you are joking.
I expect you to say no different when it comes to that which is way beyond your level of comprehension, Ben.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:55pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
Is this photocard issued by govt?
I don't work for the govt so my work photocard id can not possibly have been issued by govt.

Why? Does my work photocard id not identify me enough for you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:56pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
You have a right to your money in the bank also, why is the bank asking you to show an ID to get your right?
the Question how do you know those who have rights and those who doesn't. I don't know how he could not get this simple thing for months now discussing this same issue.

Raum has the Right to Vote in the US, Buda does not... without ID how do you know who has the right to vote?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:59pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
I expect you to say no different when it comes to that which is way beyond your level of comprehension, Ben.
Like Government Issued ID is not ID?

it is my right to vote so I don't have to show ID to vote. lol very funny.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:00pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
You have a right to your money in the bank also, why is the bank asking you to show an ID to get your right?
You obviously do not understand the meaning of the word "rights", if this is how you use the word.

The bank and i contract to keep my money secure with them, so it's not a right but a contractual agreement that I have with my bank. And in order for my bank to provide me with the service of keeping my money safe, we agree that certain checks will be performed, like ascertaining I am the rightful holder of the account. After all, if they give my money to the wrong person, it is they and not I who would be liable and at a loss.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:02pm On Mar 10, 2022
benalvino3:
Like Government Issued ID is not ID?

it is my right to vote so I don't have to show ID to vote. lol very funny.
This is your argument, and not mine, Ben. I've repeatedly told you I will be turning up with the letter you sent me confirming I have registered to vote, along with my work place photocard identifying me.

Care explaining why that is insufficient id for you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:05pm On Mar 10, 2022
benalvino3:
the Question how do you know those who have rights and those who doesn't. I don't know how he could not get this simple thing for months now discussing this same issue.

Raum has the Right to Vote in the US, Buda does not... without ID how do you know who has the right to vote?
You would have determined Raum and buda's right to vote when we registered our right to vote, Ben, and if one of us has no right to vote they'd be informed, and you would not have sent them a letter saying they can vote, so turning up to vote without the right to vote is mute.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:07pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
This is your argument, and not mine, Ben. I've repeatedly told you I will be turning up with the letter you sent me confirming I have registered to vote, along with my work place photocard identifying me.

Care explaining why that is insufficient id for you?
The letter is not an ID.
Raum has told you that work ID is not their kind of ID. they don't know who you are, they cannot verify you because you are not in their system and your work database is not with them for quick verification.

it's Easier to get a Gov ID than a work ID.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:11pm On Mar 10, 2022
benalvino3:
The letter is not an ID.
Raum has told you that work ID is not their kind of ID. they don't know who you are, they cannot verify you because you are not in their system and your work database is not with them for quick verification.

it's Easier to get a Gov ID than a work ID.
Well, I already got a work id, so easier is mute.

And you can easily verify me because my name and address will be in your database system of voters (electoral role, where I live), which you can very easily check. After all, it is that same system and database that you'd check my Id against, no?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:13pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
You would have determined Raum and buda's right to vote when we registered our right to vote, Ben, and if one of us has no right to vote they'd be informed, and you would not have sent them a letter saying they can vote, so turning up to vote without the right to vote is mute.
What stops anyone from turning up to vote as you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:14pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
Well, I already got a work id, so easier is mute.

And you can easily verify me because my name and address will be in your database system of voters (electoral role, where I live), which you can very easily check. After all, it is that same system and database that you'd check my Id against, no?
Just like your bank statement will show yet the bank still requires you show a Photo ID to perform transactions and not depend on Bank letter with name and address alone
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:16pm On Mar 10, 2022
budaatum:
Well, I already got a work id, so easier is mute.

And you can easily verify me because my name and address will be in your database system of voters (electoral role, where I live), which you can very easily check. After all, it is that same system and database that you'd check my Id against, no?
the Polling station cannot verify you because they don't have access to your company database don't you get it? why not Use your GYM ID card to withdraw money. this is something that baffles me about you. You are for ID card but you are against using the right ID card. SMH
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 9:19pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
This is gross misinformation which the left have perfected with almost every issue

Show where in the Bill the word "Gay" was mentioned

This is a link from the Florida state website where the bill was discussed, Search the page and show where the word GAY is shown

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557



Read the above yourself and tell me why any normal parent shouldnt be in the know about what their 7yr olds are taught about sex
De Santis himself while trying to defend the bill highlighted instances kids are told they shouldn't worry about picking their gender yet, he made about LGBT yet you are blaming left.

I'm okay if we say let's not teach kids about sex and gender what I won't understand is being discriminatory.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:23pm On Mar 10, 2022
sanpipita:
De Santis himself while trying to defend the bill highlighted instances kids are told they shouldn't worry about picking their gender yet, he made about LGBT yet you are blaming left.

I'm okay if we say let's not teach kids about sex and gender what I won't understand is being discriminatory.
That is the Bill you are reading there, You claimed it was "Don't say GAY" yet you cannot point to where Gay was mentioned in the bill you are reading

The Bill simply called Parental rights in education, read it and tell me which part of it you have a problem with

Parental Rights in Education; Requires district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying student's parent of specified information; requires such procedures to reinforce fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing & control of their children; prohibits school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying parent about specified information or that encourage student to withhold from parent such information; prohibits school district personnel from discouraging or prohibiting parental notification & involvement in critical decisions affecting student's mental, emotional, or physical well-being; prohibits classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels; requires school districts to notify parents of healthcare services; authorizes parent to bring action against school district to obtain declaratory judgment; provides for additional award of injunctive relief, damages, & reasonable attorney fees & court costs to certain parents.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by zendi:
If you're a leftist, you cannot be an adult.
I'm too adult to be a leftist, or to debate on Voter Id.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:26pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
That is the Bill you are reading there, You claimed it was "Don't say GAY" yet you cannot point to where Gay was mentioned in the bill you are reading

The Bill simply called Parental rights in education, read it and tell me which part of it you have a problem with
they have to parrot what the establishment media is cooking. the help spread the propaganda. imagine people crying and complaining about a bill they did not read.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 9:30pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
That is the Bill you are reading there, You claimed it was "Don't say GAY" yet you cannot point to where Gay was mentioned in the bill you are reading

The Bill simply called Parental rights in education, read it and tell me which part of it you have a problem with
You can ask that to de Santis whose only way to defend the bill was to dog whistle towards the LGBT.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:35pm On Mar 10, 2022
sanpipita:
You can ask that to de Santis whose only way to defend the bill was to dog whistle towards the LGBT.
What did you read about this bill that you have a problem with?
You said it is called "Don't say Gay" we found that is a lie, Nowhere was the word Gay mentioned

Why do you lie so effortlessly? Not just you but the entire left
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:42pm On Mar 10, 2022
benalvino3:
the Polling station cannot verify you because they don't have access to your company database don't you get it? why not Use your GYM ID card to withdraw money. this is something that baffles me about you. You are for ID card but you are against using the right ID card. SMH
You don't need access to my company database to verify me, Ben. You sent me a letter saying I have registered my right to come and vote, and hopefully you invested in quality paper and letterheading to be able to identify a fake from the original I've brought with me along with photocard id showing my name and my face.

As for my bank, I would not put my money in a bank anyone can show up with gym ID and withdraw money from. That bank wouldn't even be in business, Ben, if for money laundering purposes alone!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 9:44pm On Mar 10, 2022
raumdeuter:
What did you read about this bill that you have a problem with?
You said it is called "Don't say Gay" we found that is a lie, Nowhere was the word Gay mentioned

Why do you lie so effortlessly? Not just you but the entire left
If not that you are looking for faults where there's none you would have noticed I have agreed kids shouldn't be taught about sex and gender orientation in school, just let it not be discriminatory.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On Mar 10, 2022
sanpipita:
If not that you are looking for faults where there's none you would have noticed I have agreed kids shouldn't be taught about sex and gender orientation in school, just let it not be discriminatory.
So where was the discriminations in the bill, I posted it so read and highlight where the discriminatory phrase is

You said its dont say Gay, we cannot find the word Gay in it, now you say its discriminatory, point to the sentence that is discriminatory
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