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MaxInDHouse:
Judaism is not what Moses established, if you want to learn humble yourself and learn!

Judaism came after Jews separated themselves from Samaritans and established another religion totally different from what Moses taught them that's why it's called Judaism (meaning the religion of Jews in Judea) that's why Samaritans disagreed with them.
For your information there are 12 tribes in Israel and only two (Judah and Benjamin) formed Judaism while the remaining ten tribes of Israel were referred to as Samaritans!

Jesus is not the God of Christianity so humble yourself and learn!

Where did I say Moses established Judaism? You said Moses created laws, those laws are called Torah and the first 5 book of the Bible, and they belong to Judaism.
Tell me again what’s the definition of the Torah?

Maynman:
Where did I say Moses established Judaism? You said Moses created laws, those laws are called Torah and the first 5 book of the Bible, and they belong to Judaism.
Tell me again what’s the definition of the Torah?

I never said Moses CREATED the Torah Sir!

I said it was the laws God gave the Israelites through his prophet Moses so the Israelites thought their God will continue to put up with their unbelief but after they discovered that He is no longer putting up with their faithlessness they divided against themselves each sect picking what soothes them.
Go and check the map then compare to what was written in the Bible you will find out that all their lands are gone the settlers living in Israel today claiming Jews are not the original Jews!

But all that is just aside what matters that after Jesus' coming and the nation as a whole rejected him their God disowned them and only Jesus' followers were accepted as worshipers of the God of Abraham.

The books of Moses was given to the Israelites as a guide until the coming of Christ note that their God never asked them to widen out not until Jesus came to establish the new covenant which allows for people from other nations to join in worshiping the God of Israel as officiating priests in the spiritual temple of the God of Israel!

MaxInDHouse:
I never said Moses CREATED the Torah Sir!

I said it was the laws God gave the Israelites through his prophet Moses so the Israelites thought their God will continue to put up with their unbelief but after they discovered that He is no longer putting up with their faithlessness they divided against themselves each sect picking what soothes them.
Go and check the map then compare to what was written in the Bible you will find out that all their lands are gone the settlers living in Israel today claiming Jews are not the original Jews!

But all that is just aside what matters that after Jesus' coming and the nation as a whole rejected him their God disowned them and only Jesus' followers were accepted as worshipers of the God of Abraham.

The books of Moses was given to the Israelites as a guide until the coming of Christ note that their God never asked them to widen out not until Jesus came to establish the new covenant which allows for people from other nations to join in worshiping the God of Israel as officiating priests in the spiritual temple of the God of Israel!

Bro you still haven’t mentioned the definition of Torah and who uses it? Is it that hard? Which god was given Moses those laws? Judaist god or Christian god?
The first 5 book where you are quoting all this BS is gotten from Judaism.. Bible literally means collection of books.

Maynman:
Bro you still haven’t mentioned the definition of Torah and who uses it? Is it that hard? Which god was given Moses those laws? Judaist god or Christian god?
The first 5 book where you are quoting all this BS is gotten from Judaism.. Bible literally means collection of books.

Torah simply means the books written by Moses, the ones the God of Abraham inspired Moses to pen down!

Today i call Him "God of Jehovah's Witnesses"

Remember that it's this same God that walked with Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob none of them practiced Judaism Sir?

So the laws God gave Moses was for a reason and after that has been accomplished it's no longer needed by worshipers of that same God. Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph all worshiped this same God without those laws given to Moses so know today that those laws were added for a purpose and after it's accomplishment it's no longer in use today among the worshipers of that same God!

MaxInDHouse:
Torah simply means the books written by Moses, the ones the God of Abraham inspired Moses to pen down!

Today i call Him "God of Jehovah's Witnesses"

Remember that it's this same God that walked with Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob none of them practiced Judaism Sir?

So the laws God gave Moses was for a reason and after that has been accomplished it's no longer needed by worshipers of that same God. Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph all worshiped this same God without those laws given to Moses so know today that those laws were added for a purpose and after it's accomplishment it's no longer in use today among the worshipers of that same God!

You are not been sincere with the definition of Torah and you know. Torah means the first 5 books of the Bible right? Bible means collection of books. Who uses the Torah?
Is The Judaist god is the same as the Christian god?

Maynman:
You are not been sincere with the definition of Torah and you know. Torah means the first 5 books of the Bible right? Bible means collection of books. Who uses the Torah? The Judaist god is the same as the Christian god?

Judaists have derailed from the path of pure worship!
It's a progressive development not static.
God never gave Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Joseph those laws and they were his beloved worshipers.
So how come you now think people must keep what is in those laws before they can worship that same God?
The TORAH was written not for worshiper of God to keep to time indefinite rather it was given to the nation of Israel as a guide until the arrival of the Christ, so it's the Christ that will come and establish what is permanent not the TORAH!

MaxInDHouse:
Judaists have derailed from the path of pure worship!
It's a progressive development not static.
God never gave Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or Joseph those laws and they were his beloved worshipers.
So how come you now think people must keep what is in those laws before they can worship that same God?
The TORAH was written not for worshiper of God to keep to time indefinite rather it was given to the nation of Israel as a guide until the arrival of the Christ, so it's the Christ that will come and establish what is permanent not the TORAH!

So you agree that the first 5 book of the Bible comes solely from Torah? Why then do you use it?
And you said god is progressive, for progress to happen there must be change. So your god do change? Say one thing today another tomorrow? Give them laws when it suits and changes it when it doesn’t suit, that’s not a perfect god. More like a trial and error god, I still prefer the Judaist god, he maintained his stance and didn’t change surely the New Testament is meant for Christians and has another god.

Maynman:
So you agree that the first 5 book of the Bible comes solely from Torah? Why then do you use it?
And you said god is progressive, for progress to happen there must be change. So your god do change? Say one thing today another tomorrow? Give them laws when it suits and changes it when it doesn’t suit, that’s not a perfect god. More like a trial and error god, I still prefer the Judaist god, he maintained his stance and didn’t change surely the New Testament is meant for Christians and has another god.

Did Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob and Joseph knew the Torah?

MaxInDHouse:
Did Abel Enoch Noah Abraham Isaac Jacob and Joseph knew the Torah?

All these people you mentioned are they Jews? What’s the Torah? Who is it meant for?

Maynman:
All these people you mentioned are they Jews? What’s the Torah? Who is it meant for?

Good!
Now you're learning!
They aren't Jews so our God called himself the "God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob" sorry the Jews came to meet the program so it's not their own rather they can only make it their own by subjecting themselves to the progressive development but if they refuse then the God of Abraham will go for people from all other nations and gather faithful people as children for His friend (Abraham)

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Now you're learning!
They aren't Jews so our God called himself the "God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob" sorry the Jews came to meet the program so it's not their own rather they can only make it their own by subjecting themselves to the progressive development but if they refuse then the God of Abraham will go for people from all other nations and gather faithful people as children for His friend (Abraham)

The first 5 book of the Bible is called torah, why did the Christian add it? And keep quoting verses in the Torah
Define Torah, and who is it meant for.

Maynman:
The first 5 book of the Bible is called torah, why did the Christian add it? And keep quoting verses in the Torah
Define Torah, and who is it meant for.

Anybody can call any part of our book the name they like!

MaxInDHouse:
Anybody can call any part of our book the name they like!

Your first 5 book was gotten from Torah, you copied it that’s why it’s called collection of books(Bible)

Maynman:
Your first 5 book was gotten from Torah, you copied it that’s why it’s called collection of books(Bible)

Whatever soothes you my friend, i believe you already see reasons why i believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Thanks for your time!

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever soothes you my friend, i believe you already see reasons why i believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Thanks for your time!

Yeah I see why you believe in one of the gods of the Jews.

cornelboy:
Yeah of course you didn't

God is the divine universal consciousness........I don't really know how to stress it..

MaxInDHouse:
Nobody is forcing anyone here it's either you BELIEVE what is WORKING out or keep waiting for uncertainty!

Are you calling God's promise "uncertainty "?

22jumpstreet:
Are you calling God's promise "uncertainty "?

Jesus is the fulfilment of all God's promises, once you miss Jesus then you're embracing uncertainty.
That's why you can't say anything about those working along with the promises of your god instead you're saying you have to wait, for what? UNCERTAINTY!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the fulfilment of all God's promises, once you miss Jesus then you're embracing uncertainty.
That's why you can't say anything about those working along with the promises of your god instead you're saying you have to wait, for what? UNCERTAINTY!

And again, are you calling God's promise uncertainty?
Yes or no..

22jumpstreet:
God is the divine universal consciousness........I don't really know how to stress it..

Alright na

MaxInDHouse:
Guy, that is not TORAH!
Torah simply means the laws Moses penned down and for your information ten Israelites tribes only believe it while they rejected all the other books written by other prophets that's why the Jews look down Samaritans.
It's Isaiah and Micah that penned down those words and only [s]Christ of Nazareth came to establish something of that nature that's why i believe in Jesus of Nazareth[/s]!

Muhammad of Arabia came to establish something of that nature that's why I believe in Muhammad of Arabia.

So what is the difference between your comment and my correction?

Bearing in mind they both "came"

sonmvayina:
Muhammad of Arabia came to establish something of that nature that's why I believe in Muhammad of Arabia.

So what is the difference between your comment and my correction?

Bearing in mind they both "came"

Exactly he is worshipping one of the gods in isreal , an inferior at that.

Reincarnation master!

sonmvayina:
Muhammad of Arabia came to establish something of that nature that's why I believe in Muhammad of Arabia.
So what is the difference between your comment and my correction?
Bearing in mind they both "came"

MaxInDHouse:
Reincarnation master!

Slave of 2 gods

Maynman:
Slave of 2 gods

Even if i worship 1,000,000,000 gods it's my own problem not yours!
So do whatever benefits you Mr Atheist!

MaxInDHouse:
Even if i worship 1,000,000,000 gods it's my own problem not yours!
So do whatever benefits you Mr Atheist!

You need to worship those millions gods correctly then pagan, Judaism and Christianity is different you can’t do both.

Maynman:
You need to worship those millions gods correctly then pagan, Judaism and Christianity is different you can’t do both.

Whatever soothes you Mr Atheist!

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever soothes you Mr Atheist!

Mr pagan, worshipper of 2 Israel gods, better add that Arab own too

MaxInDHouse:
Reincarnation master!

Lol..
It is not about coming, my dear

Nobody sent them. God gave the jews his laws to live by. The laws are forever as long as people live on earth. The purpose of the law was for humans to live in peace and put their animal instinct under check. It is forever. Anybody coming to stop or change it is basically "antiGod "

So if your Jesus or Paul actually lived, they are both antiGod and di not come from the creator...

sonmvayina:
Lol..
It is not about coming, my dear

Nobody sent them. God gave the jews his laws to live by. The laws are forever as long as people live on earth. The purpose of the law was for humans to live in peace and put their animal instinct under check. It is forever. Anybody coming to stop or change it is basically "antiGod "

So if your Jesus or Paul actually lived, they are both antiGod and di not come from the creator...

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
This has nothing to do with reincarnation Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
This has nothing to do with reincarnation Sir!

Lol...olodo.

We are Gods having a human experience...
There is no where that it says, we only have one experience...
We have several until we fulfil the Torah...

sonmvayina:
Lol...olodo.
We are Gods having a human experience...
There is no where that it says, we only have one experience...
We have several until we fulfil the Torah...

Don't worry yourself after all when it's time everyone will know what you know shey?