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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Sonoyom(m): 4:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:
Wike is nothing but a clown. Umahi is not the first governor to decamp and won’t be the last. He will remain in APC and complete his tenure without any problem.

The useless judgement that was given by PDP judge cannot stand any serious legal scrutiny. Appeal court will trash the judgement and the silly high court judge who seriously overreached himself will be punished in due course.
The useless Appeal court judgement will be given by an APC judge.
You called out Wike, and also the FHC Justice but you turned a blind eye to the statement of the foolish governor who insulted the judge, partisan politics has blinded you.
Well done!

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by garfield1: 4:11pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

The judgement clearly interprets the Constitution as it was intended and expected by the writers

It is a classical case of a progressive judgment well grounded in the concepts of idealism and purposivism

It will be a reference for future progressive adventurism in our jurisprudence

The Hon. Justice Ekwo just wrote his name in gold with this bold move

The judgment is good facially,morally and progressively but unfortunately,it is illegal and unconstitutional...what is clearly not provided in the constitution cannot be interpreted upon.if the drafters intended it so,they would have clearly added governors and presidents after all they dedicated two sections for lawmakers.why omit the executive? Probably because of immunity.several precedents abound of morally good judgments that were struck out for not being covered by our laws.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by bjtinz: 4:17pm On Mar 13, 2022
Wike should sit down and stop making excessive noise. Haba! Na only him waka come?

It's not PMB or Amaechi or Tinubu or Obaseki/Shuiabu. It's now Umahi.

And by the way, on a head to head basis especially considering the resources available to both states, Umahi will easily floor him in terms of performance.

Abeg he should focus on what his people voted him to do.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by seunmsg(m): 4:18pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

And I am telling you that you are lying.
Bring proof that Alen Spectre exists. I've googled it and what came up is a song.
Lieberman never crossed from Democrat to Republican. He simply ran as an Independent Democrat and caucused with the Democrats in the Senate.


Lol at the part in bold.

Arlen Spectre was a US Senator for about 30 years. He was elected a Republican and later defected to the Democratic Party in 2009.

Joe Lieberman lost his re-election bid in 2006 and left the Democratic Party to contest as the candidate of a third party called “Connecticut for Lieberman”.

Both of them were serving senators when they ditched their parties and never lost their seats.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 4:28pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:


Lol at the part in bold.

Arlen Spectre was a US Senator for about 30 years. He was elected a Republican and later defected to the Democratic Party in 2009.

Joe Lieberman lost his re-election bid in 2006 and left the Democratic Party to contest as the candidate of a third party called “Connecticut for Lieberman”.

Both of them were serving senators when they ditched their parties and never lost their seats.

Lieberman caucused as a Democrat all through his stay in the Senate. "Connecticut for Lieberman" na Republican Party to you abi?
Arlen Spectre you're talking about defected to run as a Democrat in a fresh election. Not that he defected after winning as a Republican. That is different.
So in this two cases, you're definitely wrong

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 4:30pm On Mar 13, 2022
garfield1:


The judgment is good facially,morally and progressively but unfortunately,it is illegal and unconstitutional...what is clearly not provided in the constitution cannot be interpreted upon.if the drafters intended it so,they would have clearly added governors and presidents after all they dedicated two sections for lawmakers.why omit the executive? Probably because of immunity.several precedents abound of morally good judgments that were struck out for not being covered by our laws.

There's nothing in the Constitution that says an oluwole copy of a non-existent result can make the fourth place candidate first in a governorship contest but the SC still found a way and you shouted Hallelujah not so?

Relax!!

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Jimalicoco(m): 4:30pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:
Wike is nothing but a clown. Umahi is not the first governor to decamp and won’t be the last. He will remain in APC and complete his tenure without any problem.

The useless judgement that was given by PDP judge cannot stand any serious legal scrutiny. Appeal court will trash the judgement and the silly high court judge who seriously overreached himself will be punished in due course.

Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Datikwerreboi(m): 4:40pm On Mar 13, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:
Umahi should return to PDP and let this matter rest

Umahi has done so well for his people, he's one of the most hard working governor currently and I've always wished him well

I want him to complete his term so he could complete all the good works he has started for the good people of Ebonyi state

I stand with Umahi to finish his term and complete all the ongoing projects he has started in Ebonyi state
You're a patriot .
Meanwhile Amaechi for president under APC and Anyim for president under PDP cool
Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by poiZon: 4:45pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:


Oga, I can’t be spoon feeding you. I’ve given you two names of US senators that defected from their original party to contest on the platform of another party. Do your own research and stop asking unnecessary questions.
Can't u see what u wrote here is stark opp of what we r arguing about?

Umahi defected after winning an election. Umahi's case is different from obaseki, samuel ortom et al..

Those ones defected during electioneering period cos they sensed their various parties wouldn't clear them or support them.
Umahi defected immediately he won reelection.
What stopped him from defecting before 2019 election to APC n contest?
I mostly thought u were intelligent but i now know u r just like ur principal.
Between u and malami and buhari, don't know who is more sensible...

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by garfield1: 5:08pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


There's nothing in the Constitution that says an oluwole copy of a non-existent result can
make the fourth place candidate first in a governorship contest but the SC still found a way and you shouted Hallelujah not so?

Relax!!

We once debated this and you concurred with me. There is nothing that stops a fourth place wl from winning a case.thee first runner up was disqualified.The second runner up based his case on electoral malpractices which is very difficult to prove and he failed.uzodinma based his case on wrongful collation which is easier to prove.he simply provided his party copies of results which tallied with the ones the police have.inec and PDP could not provide their own copy and failed to back up any of their allegations as demanded by the evidence and electoral act...he simply outsmarted them and the court had no choice than to declare him winner.what is so hard here to understand

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 5:37pm On Mar 13, 2022
garfield1:


We once debated this and you concurred with me. There is nothing that stops a fourth place wl from winning a case.thee first runner up was disqualified.The second runner up based his case on electoral malpractices which is very difficult to prove and he failed.uzodinma based his case on wrongful collation which is easier to prove.he simply provided his party copies of results which tallied with the ones the police have.inec and PDP could not provide their own copy and failed to back up any of their allegations as demanded by the evidence and electoral act...he simply outsmarted them and the court had no choice than to declare him winner.what is so hard here to understand

Exactly!! Now you get it. The erudite justice simply gave PDP back the votes it won in 2019 in Ebonyi. What is so hard here to understand?!!

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by garfield1: 5:45pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

Exactly!! Now you get it. The erudite justice simply gave PDP back the votes it won in 2019 in Ebonyi. What is so hard here to understand?!!


No sir.you cannot back it up with any law be it constitution,electoral act,evidence act or interpretation act.even judicial precedents like atiku vs obj 2007,inec vs acn 2012,nwanakwo vs inec 2019 supports umahi.you cannot build something on nothing....you cannot build legalities on moralities...in the recent case between states vs fg,the apex court agreed that order 10 is good and nice but inherently illegal except via nass amendment.better leave this matter

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by seunmsg(m): 5:50pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


Lieberman caucused as a Democrat all through his stay in the Senate. "Connecticut for Lieberman" na Republican Party to you abi?
Arlen Spectre you're talking about defected to run as a Democrat in a fresh election. Not that he defected after winning as a Republican. That is different.
So in this two cases, you're definitely wrong

Now, you really need to stop lying. Lieberman was an incumbent senator when he lost his re-election bid at the Democratic primary election. He resigned from the party and contested on the platform of another party without losing his seat. Whether the party is Connecticut for Lieberman or Republican Party doesn’t change the fact that he left the party that got him elected and joined another party.

Arlen Spectre was an incumbent Republican senator for 30 years. He was an incumbent senator elected on the platform of Republican Party when he defected to the Democratic Party in 2009. He did not lose his seat when he decamped.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 5:52pm On Mar 13, 2022
garfield1:



No sir.you cannot back it up with any law be it constitution,electoral act,evidence act or interpretation act.even judicial precedents like atiku vs obj 2007,inec vs acn 2012,nwanakwo vs inec 2019 supports umahi.you cannot build something on nothing....you cannot build legalities on moralities...in the recent case between states vs fg,the apex court agreed that order 10 is good and nice but inherently illegal except via nass amendment.better leave this matter
Are you more knowledgeable than Justice Ekwo on this matter? The good Daniel has come to judgement. The judgement stands until a superior court says otherwise. The valid votes belong to the party. Umahi's name was not on the ballot. It was PDP's umbrella that was there. He should return the seat to the rightful owners as the Constitution says.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 5:57pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:


Now, you really need to stop lying. Lieberman was an incumbent senator when he lost his re-election bid at the Democratic primary election. He resigned from the party and contested on the platform of another party without losing his seat. Whether the party is Connecticut for Lieberman or Republican Party doesn’t change the fact that he left the party that got him elected and joined another party.

Arlen Spectre was an incumbent Republican senator for 30 years. He was an incumbent senator elected on the platform of Republican Party when he defected to the Democratic Party in 2009. He did not lose his seat when he decamped.

Lieberman still caucused as a Democrat. Is that hard for you to understand. He basically ran as an Independent Democrat. Connecticut for Lieberman was never really a party.

As For Spectre. He resigned to run for another term as a democrat just as Ortom did. What I asked is a member of congress who crossed from Democratic to Republican not a democrat who ran as a Republican in the next election. You are basically getting things mixed up.
That's a pity

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by garfield1: 6:07pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

Are you more knowledgeable than Justice Ekwo on this matter? The good Daniel has come to judgement. The judgement stands until a superior court says otherwise. The valid votes belong to the party. Umahi's name was not on the ballot. It was PDP's umbrella that was there. He should return the seat to the rightful owners as the Constitution says.

Which part of the constitution? The constitution has provided ways in which a governor can be removed and defection is not there.ekwo does not know it all after all some of his decisions have been set aside.this will not fly sir

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:13pm On Mar 13, 2022
garfield1:


Which part of the constitution? The constitution has provided ways in which a governor can be removed and defection is not there.ekwo does not know it all after all some of his decisions have been set aside.this will not fly sir


The constitution did not envisage a governor will become a political prostitute. But the constitution clearly wants a party with the highest valid votes to rule a state and that the votes should count throughout the duration of the term

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by 24SEVEN: 6:14pm On Mar 13, 2022
bjtinz:
Wike should sit down and stop making excessive noise. Haba! Na only him waka come?

It's not PMB or Amaechi or Tinubu or Obaseki/Shuiabu. It's now Umahi.

And by the way, on a head to head basis especially considering the resources available to both states, Umahi will easily floor him in terms of performance.

Abeg he should focus on what his people voted him to do.

And whenever that head to head is conducted, it should take into cognizance the terrain and population of the two states.
Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by garfield1: 6:17pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


The constitution did not envisage a governor will become a political prostitute. But the constitution clearly wants a party with the highest valid votes to rule a state and that the votes should count throughout the duration of the term

You are funny.they didn't envisage governors who even have more powers but envisaged lawmakers defecting? Funny.you need to read atiku vs obj 2007 and it will clear your mind.it is a lost cause

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by seunmsg(m): 6:25pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


Lieberman still caucused as a Democrat. Is that hard for you to understand. He basically ran as an Independent Democrat. Connecticut for Lieberman was never really a party.

As For Spectre. He resigned to run for another term as a democrat just as Ortom did. What I asked is a member of congress who crossed from Democratic to Republican not a democrat who ran as a Republican in the next election. You are basically getting things mixed up.
That's a pity

Lol, you really think you can muddle things up with me, right ? Guy, stop playing around with words.

Defection is defection. There is no sugarcoating it. Spectre defected from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party in 2009 and HE DID NO LOSE HIS SENATE SEAT. He lost re-election in 2010 but remained a senator till 2011.

So, what’s there to argue blindly about? Elected politicians defect all over the world without losing their offices and I have given you very recent examples in the United States. Nigeria cannot be an exemption. Umahi will remain the governor of Ebonyi till 2023 and there absolutely nothing any of you PDP wailers can do about it.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by GalaxieseventsW(m): 6:51pm On Mar 13, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:
Umahi should return to PDP and let this matter rest

Umahi has done so well for his people, he's one of the most hard working governor currently and I've always wished him well

I want him to complete his term so he could complete all the good works he has started for the good people of Ebonyi state

I stand with Umahi to finish his term and complete all the ongoing projects he has started in Ebonyi state
. Go and Stand with him in court

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by olas24u(f): 6:52pm On Mar 13, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:
Umahi should return to PDP and let this matter rest

Umahi has done so well for his people, he's one of the most hard working governor currently and I've always wished him well

I want him to complete his term so he could complete all the good works he has started for the good people of Ebonyi state

I stand with Umahi to finish his term and complete all the ongoing projects he has started in Ebonyi state
Obey the court order first ,its a federal court.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by lati22: 6:53pm On Mar 13, 2022
amazing.

Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by FreeStuffsNG: 6:54pm On Mar 13, 2022
Hmmmm....HE Umahi seems to have underestimated the fall out that could arise from decamping.

HE Wike is just firing from all cylinders.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by BeardGangJnr1(m): 6:54pm On Mar 13, 2022
Wike dey lousy mouthed otondo grin
Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by Antidote77: 6:58pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

And I am telling you that you are lying.
Bring proof that Alen Spectre exists. I've googled it and what came up is a song.
Lieberman never crossed from Democrat to Republican. He simply ran as an Independent Democrat and caucused with the Democrats in the Senate.


It is Arlen not Alen. Now Google again

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by kachistone: 7:00pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:


The right to freedom of association is a constitutional right that can’t be denied. All over the world, elected politicians defect for various reasons. Nigeria is not an exception.

Again, the Supreme Court already ruled on this matter in Atiku’s case. The president, vp, governors and deputy governors cannot lose their office for simply changing parties.

Atiku's case was different. OBJ "sacked" Atiku when the latter defected to the then Action Congress. So Atiku went to court to challenge the sack. PDP didn't take Atiku to court. It was Atiku that went to court.

It is up to the lawyers to prove their mettle in the appeal. It is still open to both camps.
Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by ogkrakkid(m): 7:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
poiZon:

There is a clause to that effect.
U only defect if there is crisis at the national level of the party.

Umahi was elected under pdp, if he thinks he is so popular, resign ur post and contest election.

It's as simple as that.

This matter will not just benefit pdp if it comes to conclusion but the entire system.

Where in the world do people defect aimlessly like its been done in Nigeria?

Show me where even in africa.

Havent heard about defections in ghana or South Africa..
Jacob zuma even while being tried for corruption hasnt deem it neccessary to defect.

Thabo mbeki never defected, in kenya uhuru Kenyatta and his old rival raila odinga are still in the partt they got prominence..

In Nigeria people defect for no reason, the party now r fighting this, u r here talking rubbish.

Pls school that thot.
Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by desiredhome: 7:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


Give example of an elected Republican defecting to Democrat or Conservative defecting to Labour in US or UK
How do you people always compare yourself with foreigners when you act and behave exactly opposite them?

Why is wike always acting as if he knows more than all?.....is it because he had bribed all the judges in Rivers State?
Wike is nothing but a hypocrite and noise maker....

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by dfrost: 7:05pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:
Wike is nothing but a clown. Umahi is not the first governor to decamp and won’t be the last. He will remain in APC and complete his tenure without any problem.
.

He's not the first and won't be the last. Wike is simply saying: it needs to be checkmated. Enough of the madness by these bunch of jokers.

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by tegrianonigltd(m): 7:07pm On Mar 13, 2022
seunmsg:
Wike is nothing but a clown. Umahi is not the first governor to decamp and won’t be the last. He will remain in APC and complete his tenure without any problem.

The useless judgement that was given by PDP judge cannot stand any serious legal scrutiny. Appeal court will trash the judgement and the silly high court judge who seriously overreached himself will be punished in due course.

Read to understand, not to reply in jargons. Do that and thank me later

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Re: Wike Tells Umahi To Vacate His Seat As Ebonyi Governor by BeardGangJnr1(m): 7:08pm On Mar 13, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


Give example of an elected Republican defecting to Democrat or Conservative defecting to Labour in US or UK
Everything shouldn't revolve around US and UK undecided
U can make yo point without referencing those White racist colonizers....;!

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