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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 8:56am On Mar 13, 2022 |
Fact
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 8:59am On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nastymods: 9:05am On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 9:07am On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:21am On Mar 13, 2022 |
raumdeuter:Even this unfunny guy thinks Biden is a joke and Trump cannot be disrespected like this
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 9:22am On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:04am On Mar 13, 2022 |
AmazonTopaz:Some of the vids and threads on reddit are cray. Farmers towing away Russian tanks Some people are going to have war stories for years to come. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 3:53pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
benalvino3:Trevor Noah should worry about his own country |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:23pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
Sorry ben, but I don't see the point of playing up who played down what In this case. Smollett committed a crime he will regret and be paying for all his life, and while I feel for his ruin, he brought it on himself. That however has no bearing on the thousands of racial incidents occuring regularly in America to people who did not bring it on themselves and that are not hoaxes, Ben. benalvino3:
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:46pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
benalvino3:Perhaps listen to buda when you are communicating with buda instead of making out celebrities and the media are buda's mouthpiece that buda must defend, Ben. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by stanech: 6:30pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
This is what happens when u have a toy in the white house.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:53pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:13pm On Mar 13, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 1:02am On Mar 14, 2022 |
I hope the nonsense and outright lies being peddled as propagandas are enough to stop the killings of men who were deceived that Russian armies were dying in the hands of civilians? Imagine a military base being destroyed by high precision missile strikes and lots of volunteers from other nations who were deceived by the media were destroyed. The worst is that Ukraine officials are downplaying the numbers just to gain faces. To them it doesn't matter, after all they came on their own even when they used the media to bait them. And those who think the Russians are failing or slow do not know that their game plan has been to encircle Kyiv and cut them off from military assistance. Imagine outposts of weapons being attacked and razed. Their plan is that when they are through with destroying those external help, both in weapons and personnel, the main onslaught will begin at the capital. And what are the so called fire throwers doing in this nonsensical killings and destructions going on? They are fanning the flames by lying much more through the media instead of either helping to stop the invasion through dialogue or war. If the US and her allies cannot enter into the war to help Ukraine whose amateur president couldn't read history to understand how international politics work, they should just help fast track the dialogue and allow Ukraine have peace and time to rebuild their country. The lies of avoiding world war 3 is as childish as it comes. If they truly want to avoid it, they wouldn't have escalated things to this extent. The got what they've always wanted, that's to crush the Russian economy, now Ukraine seems to be the guinea pig. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:17am On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:You saying Putin fuqed up by letting them crush the Russian economy? To understand the tragedy of this war, it is worth going back beyond the last few weeks and months, and even beyond Vladimir Putin https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/11/was-it-inevitable-a-short-history-of-russias-war-on-ukraine |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 1:04pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
budaatum:In my opinion, He's wrong for attacking Ukraine, but my focus is not that, it is the fact that Ukraine is being used to further their aims, both the US, West and Russia. Russia may be looking for a way to have confrontations with the West and the US, they got Ukraine to try their nonsense. The West and US on the other hand, played into it to get their aim which is to target the Russian economy. Both sides have made Ukraine to suffer and instead of them to find a way to deescalate issues, they are lying outrightly, thereby, luring innocent people to come into Ukraine to die. SMH |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:42pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:The idea Ukraine is being used to target Russia is terrible and not true, why do you people never see Ukraine as a sovereign nation that's also concerned about its own security, if you read back history you will see there's been decades of Russian hostilities against Ukraine, current war is just a continuation of the madness Russia has always orchestrated in Ukraine, Putin even described Ukraine as a fictional country, how do you reconcile all this and think Ukraine will put themselves up as a bait for west to target Russia |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:08pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
sanpipita:Ill jump in briefly. NATO at the breakup of the USRR promise Gorbavech they wont put a missile an inch nearer than at the breakup; James Baker promise. Do I support Russia, Yes in a bad way because media is feeding us a narrative and nonsense |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:41pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
basilico:Gorbachev said such agreement doesn't exist, why do you people keep repeating this, if USSR had any such agreement it will be documented not by hearsay. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2014/11/06/did-nato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/ |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:49pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
sanpipita:never bring brookings up. go find out who owns it. Leftwing nonsense. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:11pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:We'll, the article I posted gave some historical data that might make some focus different. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:13pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
sanpipita:One has to do the work and read some you see, instead of making things up in one's head which just happens to be easier. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:25pm On Mar 14, 2022*. Modified: 6:59pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:31pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 6:59pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
sanpipita:The truth is the truth, emotions notwithstanding. Ukraine was given advice by so called foreign powers on what to do and a promise of help which Zelensky has been begging for, why isn't it coming? And please don't add words to what i said by insinuating that we don't see Ukraine as a sovereign nation. If you can point that out in any of my comments so far please do. The Ukrainian leaders should have known that the West and US only think about themselves when it comes to international politics. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 7:11pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
budaatum:I don't just read because guardian of CNN or whatever news outlets out there brought in their analysis to say what they want, I have my head to see by myself, especially now that their lies became stupidly open to everyone looking from outside. My focal point in this discussion has been that Ukraine is being misled by the outright lies termed propaganda of the US and West allowed escalation up to this point and now innocents are dying due to it? When it comes to history on this topic, I will focus on that, but right now, please focus on the points I talked, because that is my own concern ay the moment. And I won't use CNN or Guardian and co as my only source, never! Not with what I've seen since this issue began. They are all liars, trying to condition people to think and reason like them, if not, they call them names. My questions has been, what are the US and West doing to help stop the war? They should either focus on helping diplomatically or engage Russian military in Ukraine since Zelensky called for help. After all Russia came into Syria when Asad called for help from Putin. Innocents are dying, properties and livelihood destroyed and still no help in diplomatic discussions or to come in and help them directly. Britain is the worst in this war season, they talk tough but nothing to show, only shouting if Russia attack NATO. They should just come as a nation to fight with Russia personally. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 7:21pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
budaatum:Read? Please what do you think has been happening for a while now through the media? Most of the echoes going on here are analysis of people's agenda. They say what they want, push it into the mainstream and force everyone to accept it or be labeled negatively. Know this, WE ARE ALL IMPRESSIONABLE. The basis of your decision making emanates from the things you see, hear or read, this is what has been happening. So don't pump in what some folks said on Guardian and force me to accept it thst way when I also have other materials with different opinions. I may tilt towards a political party, but I will never follow all they say or want because everyone is an extremist on certain issues. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:29pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:You said: Livelystone01:First, they haven't yet got what they wanted because Putin is not yet crushed not to talk of Russia. But why are you expecting anyone to help Ukraine before they finish getting what they want? My accusation is that you are not cynical enough, Lively. US and UK are there to crush Russia and not, to save Ukraine. If Ukraine's farm produce is off the market American farmers will rejoice, and if pipelines across Ukraine stop pumping Russian oil, pipes will flow from elsewhere. Canada oil is rejoicing at the moment. OTTAWA -- Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says it will be another week or two before Canada will know with certainty how much extra oil it can produce and ship to help offset bans on the use of fossil fuels from Russia.As for history, I'm reading The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Power by Daniel Yergin. The history makes one realise that money motivates than any love for Ukraine. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:44pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:And that is why we must investigate and research, ask and knock and seek with all our own hearts and souls and minds and beings, Lively. I hope the irony of my above does not elude you. The Guardian, and The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Power by Daniel Yergin, Lively, and that's not the beginning, as I must have seen, heard or read other books and things too to find those two. I'm impressing myself, you see. I'm seeing and hearing and reading all I can so my decision making is informed. And I'm not forcing you to accept anything! I'm merely bringing it to your attention because I feel it might interest you is all, because you showed you use your own mind to decide what you impress yourself with. My apology if you felt forced. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:55pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
I wish the world cared about Ukraine, but unfortunately Ukraine is more or less part of Russia, in the minds of many including Russia and lots of Europe, and then there's gas, or rather, energy, which Russia has been supplying western Europe since 1900 including non-stop all through the Cold War. 1 billion dollars is what sanctioned Russia, 144 million people, is being paid for gas a day. I'll take them seriously when it's closer to zero, though it's going to cost me. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:09pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
Livelystone01:He is very wrong, and we should blame and punish him, which is what the sanctions are meant to do. Unfortunately, punishing him too much will implode the fragile economies they have already built up. Just you imagine a $30T in debt United States in a recession. This is the beginning. Dormant pumps will replace oil but gas is a little bit harder to replace, hence electric, some say. Personally, I think the future is nuclear, but see how some don't want some to have light. I force you not though, mind. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:07pm On Mar 14, 2022 |
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