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God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 4:20pm On Mar 14, 2022
Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:

"Yes, but God never condoned polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, but He was against polygamy."
"Polygamy was only man's idea, not God's".
"Yes, but God never approved of polygamy."

The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

Also, at the point in time of this situation, David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

But, in this verse 12 (above), God was not condemning David for all his wives! In fact, this verse 12 shows God Himself actually saying that HE was the One Who had GIVEN David His wives.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.


Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

This is, of course, confirmed by 1_Corinthians 7:17.

"But as God hath distributed to every man,
as the Lord hath called every one,
so let him walk.
And so ordain I in all churches."
1 Corinthians 7:17.


Be it
NO wife,
ONE wife, or
MORE THAN ONE wife,
it is only has God calls and gives.


As such, it is clear that the Bible does, in fact, explicitly show

"Yes, God did condone polygamy."
"Yes, God allowed it, and He was not against polygamy."
"Polygamy is not a man's idea, but God's".
"Yes, God did approve of polygamy."
In 2 Samuel 12:8, He Himself said so!

Biblical Polygamy
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/exegesis/god-said-he-gave-wives/

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 4:45pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
Sometimes, people are indeed honest enough to admit that the Bible really does not prohibit polygamy (polygyny). However, as a hedge against that admission, such ones may then resort to saying one of the following assertions:
The Bible also doesn't prohibit polyandry, so what is your point? undecided

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 4:47pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
The Bible also doesn't prohibit polyandry, so what is your point? undecided

So who did practiced it in the Bible with God's support like Polygamy? cry

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 4:51pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
So who did practiced it in the Bible with God's support like Polygamy? cry
Why? You only believe what the Bible God says only if someone is recorded to have done what He said in scripture? undecided
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 5:06pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
Why? You only believe what the Bible God says only if someone is recorded to have done what He said in scripture? undecided
Not really!
God approves something directly!

God approves something but not stopping people from it when they do it.
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 5:12pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:

Not really!
God approves something directly!

God approves something but not stopping people from it when they do it.
I don't follow! undecided

Is it that you think where the Bible God is concerned, so long as He does not stop an act, He approves of it? undecided
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by MrBrownJay1(m): 5:25pm On Mar 14, 2022
ABRAHAM did it
KING SOLOMON did it
KING DAVID did it


...and they were never seen as sinners (its only when one of them fukcED a "married" woman that he was viewed as a sinner)

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 5:49pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
I don't follow! undecided

Is it that you think where the Bible God is concerned, so long as He does not stop an act, He approves of it? undecided

As far as polygamy is concerned God permitted it by supporting it and never forbidding it anywhere in the Bible.

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 6:26pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
As far as polygamy is concerned God permitted it by supporting it and never forbidding it anywhere in the Bible.
That isn't what I asked though. Pay attention! undecided

The Christian God permits a lot of things that are not written down in His Law... but your claim got me wondering what you mean. undecided

Is it that you think where the Bible God is concerned, so long as He does not stop an act, He approves of it? undecided
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 7:15pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
That isn't what I asked though. Pay attention! undecided

The Christian God permits a lot of things that are not written down in His Law... but your claim got me wondering what you mean. undecided

Is it that you think where the Bible God is concerned, so long as He does not stop an act, He approves of it? undecided

Yes! Where there's no law there's no sin!

Adam's sons and daughters will have to marry themselves. This was permitted then but later became incest.

What God forbid will have to be stated. Adultery, murder, covetousness, etc were expressly forbidden.

God does not tolerate sins.

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 7:21pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
Yes! Where there's no law there's no sin!

1. Adam's sons and daughters will have to marry themselves. This was permitted then but later became incest.

2. What God forbid will have to be stated. Adultery, murder, covetousness, etc were expressly forbidden.
Interesting! undecided

1. So where in God's Law do you find incest as a sin for all of mankind?, undecided

2. Ok, so why did you ask me earlier for an example for polyandry when I told you it was also allowed? undecided
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 7:24pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
...The passage involving 2 Samuel 12:8 rather clearly reveals otherwise.
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

The context of the verse is that of God, speaking through a prophet (Nathan), calling out David for David's sin of taking another man's wife (Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite), which is adultery indeed, and for setting up the death of Uriah the Hittite to try to hide David's sin.

An evil will always bend things in evil.way to justify evil.

THIS IS THE TRUE INTERPRETATION.

" I have exalted you high, even higher than your former master and his household and all Isreal Judah, SUCH THAT YOU COULD DO NO WRONG THING! (BECAUSE OF COURSE, THOU KNOWETH NOT TO DO ANY WRONG THING)

THEREFORE, WHY? WHY HATH THOU DONE THIS EVIL, KNOWING I HATE EVIL? EVEN UP TO MURDERING A HUSBAND BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE?, ATOP ALL THE OTHER THINGS THOU HATH DONE, YET I KEPT SILENT?"

That is the accurate Interpretation of that passage.

God did not give him wives! He gave him a Nation to Rule, to implement God's Laws on them.

But, here we see the King, being as a criminal, breaking The Same Law he promised to implement.

And we see, God Greatly Punished him

So as usual, you speak Lies and Filth.

O Lord, surely, it is time to Judge the world! That all evils be permanently cast into The Fire no man can quench.

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 7:30pm On Mar 14, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
Interesting! undecided

1. So where in God's Law do you find incest as a sin for all of mankind?, undecided

Leviticus 18:7–18 and 20:11–21, and also in Deuteronomy.


2. Ok, so why did you ask me earlier for an example for polyandry when I told you it was also allowed? undecided

The discussion is on polygamy which God permitted and even gave more wives to David. How is that similar to polyandry?

Stay on the context please!

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 7:43pm On Mar 14, 2022
AntiChristian:
1. Leviticus 18:7–18 and 20:11–21, and also in Deuteronomy.

2. The discussion is on polygamy which God permitted and even gave more wives to David. How is that similar to polyandry?

Stay on the context please!
1. In Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, God explicitly makes it known to all men that the Law and agreement in question He makes only with those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins. The God of the Bible intended that Law for the Jews and only the Jews and Moses made this fact known all throughout the book of the Law. undecided

So why do you assume the same Law applies as far as the Gentiles - non- Jews- are concerned? undecided

2. The same Law that permits polygamy also permits polyandry. And as you said yourself,
AntiChristian:
What God forbid will have to be stated. Adultery, murder, covetousness, etc were expressly forbidden.
undecided
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 10:32am On Mar 15, 2022
Kobojunkiee:
1. In Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20, God explicitly makes it known to all men that the Law and agreement in question He makes only with those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins. The God of the Bible intended that Law for the Jews and only the Jews and Moses made this fact known all throughout the book of the Law. undecided

So why do you assume the same Law applies as far as the Gentiles - non- Jews- are concerned? undecided

I don't know the God of the Bible is discriminatory to people as Jews or Gentiles. Na you sabi that one. But how is all this related to the context here where God gave wives and not a wife....?

2. The same Law that permits polygamy also permits polyandry. And as you said yourself, undecided

Polygamy was practiced by notable men like Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon, etc and the Lord did give David more wives!
Who practiced polyandry in the Bible that the Lord supported and even encouraged?

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 10:42am On Mar 15, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


An evil will always bend things in evil.way to justify evil.

THIS IS THE TRUE INTERPRETATION.

" I have exalted you high, even higher than your former master and his household and all Isreal Judah, SUCH THAT YOU COULD DO NO WRONG THING! (BECAUSE OF COURSE, THOU KNOWETH NOT TO DO ANY WRONG THING)

THEREFORE, WHY? WHY HATH THOU DONE THIS EVIL, KNOWING I HATE EVIL? EVEN UP TO MURDERING A HUSBAND BECAUSE OF HIS WIFE?, ATOP ALL THE OTHER THINGS THOU HATH DONE, YET I KEPT SILENT?"

That is the accurate Interpretation of that passage.

God did not give him wives! He gave him a Nation to Rule, to implement God's Laws on them.

But, here we see the King, being as a criminal, breaking The Same Law he promised to implement.

And we see, God Greatly Punished him

So as usual, you speak Lies and Filth.

O Lord, surely, it is time to Judge the world! That all evils be permanently cast into The Fire no man can quench.

If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.

But the LORD did not stop there. That verse 12 shows that the Lord took it even one step further than that! The LORD God even went on further to say that if David had wanted more wives, the Lord Himself said that He would have given David even more!

It was only because David had sinned, in committing adultery by taking another man's wife, and then causing that man's death to try to hide David's sin, that the Lord was calling him out through the prophet Nathan. There was no sin in the polygamy at all.

This is later confirmed that this was the only matter by 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:

"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.


Two verses before that, in 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

Very clearly, therefore, what all this shows is that God is the One Who gives wives, even when more than one wife.

Stop telling lies and using emotions/curses to deceive us here!
The truth is clear from the above.

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 1:42pm On Mar 15, 2022
AntiChristian:

[If God was against David's polygamy, He certainly would not have said that He had GIVEN David his wives.[/b]

NO WHERE, THERE DID GOD TAKE SAUL'S WIVES TO BE YOUR WIVES!

I HAVE EXPLAINED WHAT THAT PASSAGE MEANS AND YOU CAN NOT COUNTER IT.

SO, REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE, IS ONLY PROVING THAT YOU CAN NOT COUNTER IT.

SO, SHUT UP! YOU HAVE NO THING VALID TO SAY.

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Kobojunkiee: 1:55pm On Mar 15, 2022
AntiChristian:
1
I don't know the God of the Bible is discriminatory to people as Jews or Gentiles. Na you sabi that one. But how is all this related to the context here where God gave wives and not a wife....?

2. Polygamy was practiced by notable men like Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon, etc and the Lord did give David more wives!
Who practiced polyandry in the Bible that the Lord supported and even encouraged?
1. You pretend to understand that book have no knowledge of this basic fact or scripture? I suggest you start over with your education as far as scripture is concerned to understand that the world was divided by the God of the Bible Himself into Jews and Non Jews(Gentiles). undecided

2. Obedience to God's Laws and commandments is because God gave His Law for this purpose. It is in God we trust, not your notable men and women. In fact, those who put their trust in men, and their ways, are cursed by God. So it is against God to do as men do instead of as God has decreed. undecided

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by cornelboy(f): 8:44am On Mar 16, 2022
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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 9:21am On Mar 16, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


NO WHERE, THERE DID GOD TAKE SAUL'S WIVES TO BE YOUR WIVES!

I HAVE EXPLAINED WHAT THAT PASSAGE MEANS AND YOU CAN NOT COUNTER IT.

SO, REPEATING WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE, IS ONLY PROVING THAT YOU CAN NOT COUNTER IT.

SO, SHUT UP! YOU HAVE NO THING VALID TO SAY.


Your explanation is faulty and baseless of course!

In 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

But the exception to his perfection was mentioned in 1 Kings 15:5, which says the following:
"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "1 Kings 15:5.

Bases on the verses above:
1.Why didn't the LORD mention that his Polygamous nature was part of David's imperfection?
2. The only cause of David's imperfection was only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite not in his marriage to many ladies.

Polygamy is Biblically supported!

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 4:05pm On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:

Your explanation is faulty and baseless of course!

Too Late! You should have put in your opposition at the relevant time AND NOT REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE.

SO, THIS YOUR ANSWER BELOW IS JUST PURE-AFTER THOUGHT AS YOU HAD NOTHING TO SAY, WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR YOU TO SAY.

SO, INVALID!

AntiChristian:

In 1 Kings 15:3, the Bible says that David's heart was perfect with the LORD God.

2. The only cause of David's imperfection was only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite not in his marriage to many ladies.

Looking into your "AFTER THOUGHT", YOU STILL FAIL!

"David was perfect"

"David was imperfect"!

In the same breath, and you say you are sane?

YOU HAVE NOTHING VALID TO SAY!
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 4:16pm On Mar 16, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Too Late! You should have put in your opposition at the relevant time AND NOT REPEAT WHAT YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE.

SO, THIS YOUR ANSWER BELOW IS JUST PURE-AFTER THOUGHT AS YOU HAD NOTHING TO SAY, WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR YOU TO SAY.

SO, INVALID!
I have to return it for you cos it seems you see but lack insight.



Looking into your "AFTER THOUGHT", YOU STILL FAIL!

"David was perfect"

"David was imperfect"!

In the same breath, and you say you are sane?

YOU HAVE NOTHING VALID TO SAY!

Na your Bible say it like that o!
Look up the Bible for yourself!

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 4:30pm On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
I have to return it for you cos it seems you see but lack insight.

Trying to explain your disgrace only made it worse. IT IS ALREADY CLEAR YOU COULD NOT ANSWER. SO SHUT UP AND KEEP QUIET!

AntiChristian:

Na your Bible say it like that o!
Look up the Bible for yourself!

As I said, when an Ass looks into the Bible, it would still be an Ass when it looks up to bray!

YOU HAVE NO THING VALID TO SAY!
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 4:32pm On Mar 16, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Trying to explain your disgrace only made it worse. IT IS ALREADY CLEAR YOU COULD NOT ANSWER. SO SHUT UP AND KEEP QUIET!



As I said, when an Ass looks into the Bible, it would still be an Ass when it looks up to bray!

YOU HAVE NO THING VALID TO SAY!

Just change your name to Dliespeaker please!

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 4:34pm On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:


Just change your name to Dliespeaker please!

Fool! The Records are up there for every one to see.

Today must be "Fool Day"!
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 4:38pm On Mar 16, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Fool! The Records are up there for every one to see.

Today must be "Fool Day"!


But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell. Matt 5:22

I guess i don't qualify as your Brother sha! grin

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 7:25pm On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:

I guess i don't qualify as your Brother sha! grin

Who is my brother?
"Mark 3:35 KJV: For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

And hear again,

Leviticus 24:16 ... He who blasphemes the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. AS WELL AS THE STRANGER and he that is born in the Land, when he blasphemeth the Name of The Lord, shall be put to death."

This is me, stoning you because, ye thought to pervert the Words of The Living God, of The Lord of Hosts, Our God; Committing adultery, walking in Lies and strengthening the hands of evil doers!

Thou Shalt surely die, and thy sin never forgiven!
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 8:36am On Mar 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Who is my brother?
"Mark 3:35 KJV: For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

And hear again,

Leviticus 24:16 ... He who blasphemes the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him. AS WELL AS THE STRANGER and he that is born in the Land, when he blasphemeth the Name of The Lord, shall be put to death."

This is me, stoning you because, ye thought to pervert the Words of The Living God, of The Lord of Hosts, Our God; Committing adultery, walking in Lies and strengthening the hands of evil doers!

Thou Shalt surely die, and thy sin never forgiven!

But your Jesus refused to stone the adulterer woman saying "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” John 8:7

You are antichrist more like pro-devil!

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Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 9:38pm On Mar 17, 2022
AntiChristian:

But your Jesus refused to stone the adulterer woman saying "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” John 8:7
You are antichrist more like pro-devil!

He is The Judge! And a Judge Gives Commands and a Command has been given.
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by AntiChristian: 9:11am On Mar 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


He is The Judge! And a Judge Gives Commands and a Command has been given.

A Judge that tell lies is not a just judge! I have not come to abolish the law so why did he abolished it and not fulfil it?
Re: God Said He GAVE Wives (not A Wife) by Dtruthspeaker: 2:20pm On Mar 18, 2022
AntiChristian:
A Judge that tell lies is not a just judge! I have not come to abolish the law so why did he abolished it and not fulfil it?

Change of Post! The issue is, The Judge gave a Command.

AND NOT A CASE OF ABOLISH/NOT FULFILL THE LAW!

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