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The bat in face analogy showed you you can be provoked to fighting even when it's not your will. It's funnily pathetic that you took it literally. You'd fare better if you took God's Word more seriously. You kill cockroaches in your house why? Why not just leave them and let them be? Why so wicked and serious? Anyway, you already said that they threatened your existence. SMH.

How can you say I took it literally when I put metaphorically in brackets? You are the one using an analogy and when tasked to relate it to your god you become overwrought and start misbehaving. LoLz. We kill cockroaches because they can pose a serious health risk to us. What risk does the god face? How do humans threaten his wellbeing?

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But it has happened before and you also said it could be you, meaning that you can do same.

You can fabricate stories just to suit your lies but that doesn't change the fact that JWs are not involved in the crisis going on presently in Russia and Ukraine!

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How can you say I took it literally when I put metaphorically in brackets? You are the one using an analogy and when tasked to relate it to your god you become overwrought and start misbehaving. LoLz. We kill cockroaches because they can pose a serious health risk to us. What risk does the god face? How do humans threaten his wellbeing?

Oh you don't take it literally but you've been graphically referring to it since it was mentioned. The relationship was already done by me before your perceived task. You fight back even when you didn't will or plan to and you find nothing wrong there. In fact, you are seeking to prove that you must seriously fight with cockroaches. Sinners are a distortion of God's plan for Earth, they will be judged after these thousands of years of divine mercy.

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Oh you don't take it literally but you've been graphically referring to it since it was mentioned. The relationship was already done by me before your perceived task. You fight back even when you didn't will or plan to and you find nothing wrong there. In fact, you are seeking to prove that you must seriously fight with cockroaches. Sinners are a distortion of God's plan for Earth, they will be judged after these thousands of years of divine mercy.

You brought 2 different analogies and both of then present existential threats to a human being so if you don't think there is an existential threat to your god why are you using such analogies and getting frustrated that I am holding you to your words? I didn't force you to use those analogies, you provided them by yourself.

Sinners require war to eliminate?

LordReed:


You brought 2 different analogies and both of then present existential threats to a human being so if you don't think there is an existential threat to your god why are you using such analogies and getting frustrated that I am holding you to your words? I didn't force you to use those analogies, you provided them by yourself.

Sinners require war to eliminate?

It's in no way frustrating but weirdly funny that you think cockroaches are going to kill you and that is why you are at war with them in your house. i proved my simple point very well to satisfaction, you didn't want war but you are at war for your very life just like Zelensky but with roaches.

i didn't really get your last sentence but here it is from Revelation since you failed to read and are evidently handicapped by the ignorance.


19v 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

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20v 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Here is the summary in case you did not get the gist as probable. You know we have been telling you that Jesus is coming back. Well, when He comes back, unbelievers will gather an army to resist Him. It will be a "quickie". Fast and flawless victory, just word from His mouth, not all these wahala Russia and Ukraine are stressing out, or you and your landlord roaches. i will advice everyone just like i have been advicing you for years not to fight against your Maker.
After 1000years, man has hardly changed and they will still gather an army to surround and battle with the saints. Still same flogging that they will collect, swift quickie destruction. No time for rubbish.

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It's in no way frustrating but weirdly funny that you think cockroaches are going to kill you and that is why you are at war with them in your house. i proved my simple point very well to satisfaction, you didn't want war but you are at war for your very life just like Zelensky but with roaches.

i didn't really get your last sentence but here it is from Revelation since you failed to read and are evidently handicapped by the ignorance.


19v 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

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20v 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Here is the summary in case you did not get the gist as probable. You know we have been telling you that Jesus is coming back. Well, when He comes back, unbelievers will gather an army to resist Him. It will be a "quickie". Fast and flawless victory, just word from His mouth, not all these wahala Russia and Ukraine are stressing out, or you and your landlord roaches. i will advice everyone just like i have been advicing you for years not to fight against your Maker.
After 1000years, man has hardly changed and they will still gather an army to surround and battle with the saints. Still same flogging that they will collect, swift quickie destruction. No time for rubbish.

The very place you quoted says "gathered together to make war" and your talking as if I made it up. The question you have managed to rigmarole your way in to not answering all this while is why does the god use war if it is not his will. You can keep rigmarolling or you can answer choice is yours.

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The very place you quoted says "gathered together to make war" and your talking as if I made it up. The question you have managed to rigmarole your way in to not answering all this while is why does the god use war if it is not his will. You can keep rigmarolling or you can answer choice is yours.

Where have i ever said you made up war? From my OP i stated already that Jesus is said to be coming with an army. Your initial question was why God is warring if war is not His will. Stay focused man, there's no rigmarole, i am not you.
i said and proved already that you don't have to want or will war to go to war. You are a proof. You are at a self acclaimed existential war with roaches. i showed you verses showing humans prepared to battle.

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Where have i ever said you made up war? From my OP i stated already that Jesus is said to be coming with an army. Your initial question was why God is warring if war is not His will. Stay focused man, there's no rigmarole, i am not you.
i said and proved already that you don't have to want or will war to go to war. You are a proof. You are at a self acclaimed existential war with roaches. i showed you verses showing humans prepared to battle.

If all the ants in an anthill can be destroyed by one man, how would humans go to war against a god?

The power disparity between one man and all the ants in an anthill should be infinitesimal when compared with the power disparity between a god and humans.
Why are Jesus and his father warring against “ants”?

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If all the ants in an anthill can be destroyed by one man, how would humans go to war against a god?

The power disparity between one man and all the ants in an anthill should be infinitesimal when compared with the power disparity between a god and humans.
Why are Jesus and his father warring against “ants”?

Because it's a war from the ant's end. The Bible is primarily written for the "ant", not for God. Like you must have read, it was a very quickie war. Ask around how people battle with roaches, you will think the disparity was much but we're being told that it is a matter of life and death.

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Because it's a war from the ant's end. The Bible is primarily written for the "ant", not for God. Like you must have read, it was a very quickie war.

How is it a war from the ant’s end when the ant is absolutely powerless against the man?
How is it a war on the ant’s end when it is the man that’s coming with a team of exterminators and flame throwers? Meanwhile, the ants are minding their ant business.

It was a quickie war? Do you mean that the man has already destroyed the anthill?

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How is it a war from the ant’s end when the ant is absolutely powerless against the man?
How is it a war on the ant’s end when it is the man that’s coming with a team of exterminators and flame throwers? Meanwhile, the ants are minding their ant business.

It was a quickie war? Do you mean that the man has already destroyed the anthill?

Read up on the previous exchange, you should not be asking these questions if you have read a couple of prior posts.

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The will and plan of God is to establish righteousness and peace on God's Earth and that will be done when Jesus Christ comes again. It will be done whether the world likes it or not. Obviously, your colleagues don't seem to want it peacefully so far.

So the man will burn the anthill because it his the will of the man to burn the anthill then create a new anthill with special ants.

It will be done without regard to the wishes of the ants. So it’s not a situation where the ants don’t want it peacefully but a situation where the man wants to use his flamethrower regardless of the ants wishes.

The question still stand about the man’s insistence on warring with ants. Why are Jesus and his father insistent on burning the ants? How can you blame the ants for a war they are incapable of avoiding because it is the man’s will to war against them?
The man could relocate the anthill without setting it on fire.

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The bat in face analogy showed you you can be provoked to fighting even when it's not your will. It's funnily pathetic that you took it literally. You'd fare better if you took God's Word more seriously. You kill cockroaches in your house why? Why not just leave them and let them be? Why so wicked and serious? Anyway, you already said that they threatened your existence. SMH.

it's funny how they threaten his existence when he could just breed them or best relocate.

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How can you say I took it literally when I put metaphorically in brackets? You are the one using an analogy and when tasked to relate it to your god you become overwrought and start misbehaving. LoLz. We kill cockroaches because they can pose a serious health risk to us. What risk does the god face? How do humans threaten his wellbeing?

you could rear the cockroaches safely. Why don't you do this instead of killing them?

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The very place you quoted says "gathered together to make war" and your talking as if I made it up. The question you have managed to rigmarole your way in to not answering all this while is why does the god use war if it is not his will. You can keep rigmarolling or you can answer choice is yours.

You questions is really quite silly. It's like asking why we punish offenders or put people on death rows. What kind of answer do you expect?

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So the man will burn the anthill because it his the will of the man to burn the anthill then create a new anthill with special ants.

It will be done without regard to the wishes of the ants. So it’s not a situation where the ants don’t want it peacefully but a situation where the man wants to use his flamethrower regardless of the ants wishes.

The question still stand about the man’s insistence on warring with ants. Why are Jesus and his father insistent on burning the ants? How can you blame the ants for a war they are incapable of avoiding because it is the man’s will to war against them?
The man could relocate the anthill without setting it on fire.

Luckily humans (you) have the choice of avoiding war with God!

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Luckily humans (you) have the choice of avoiding war with God!

According to your cohort, it is the will of the man to war with the ant and the ant does not have a choice in the matter.

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You questions is really quite silly. It's like asking why we punish offenders or put people on death rows. What kind of answer do you expect?

The kind of answer that makes sense of an all powerful god making war against his will.

Anon4:
you could rear the cockroaches safely. Why don't you do this instead of killing them?

Go ahead and demonstrate how cockroaches loose and breeding rapidly in your home can be safely reared.

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The kind of answer that makes sense of an all powerful god making war against his will.

Your question suggests that God happily goes about 'making' war.
There are Divine laws. If we break them it God's job to punish or reward us for it. Whether it's his will or not.

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Go ahead and demonstrate how cockroaches loose and breeding rapidly in your home can be safely reared.

We breed even scorpions and snakes. So what's your point?

You can take care of the cockroaches instead of killing them. Why do you choose to kill? Have you no emphathy?

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it's funny how they threaten his existence when he could just breed them or best relocate.

Very weirdly funny to me too.

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So the man will burn the anthill because it his the will of the man to burn the anthill then create a new anthill with special ants.

It will be done without regard to the wishes of the ants. So it’s not a situation where the ants don’t want it peacefully but a situation where the man wants to use his flamethrower regardless of the ants wishes.

The question still stand about the man’s insistence on warring with ants. Why are Jesus and his father insistent on burning the ants? How can you blame the ants for a war they are incapable of avoiding because it is the man’s will to war against them?
The man could relocate the anthill without setting it on fire.

Duh, the Man created the ant and the anthill. You ants are capable of repenting and believing, you are capable of submission to your Maker instead of preparing to battle Him. Don't you see that the ants are already bent on setting the anthill on fire?

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Duh, the Man created the ant and the anthill. You ants are capable of repenting and believing, you are capable of submission to your Maker instead of preparing to battle Him. Don't you see that the ants are already bent on setting the anthill on fire?

If the man created the ant and the anthill, why are we blaming the ant for the will and actions of the man? The ants obviously aren’t setting the anthill of fire nor do they intend to, and they are actually incapable of setting the anthill on fire.

Why would a man need submission from an ant? If this man is capable of creating ant and anthill, why doesn’t the just create another ant that will yield to his every whim. Why burn the ant minding his own business?!!

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If the man created the ant and the anthill, why are we blaming the ant for the will and actions of the man? The ants obviously aren’t setting the anthill of fire nor do they intend to, and they are actually incapable of setting the anthill on fire.

Why would a man need submission from an ant? If this man is capable of creating ant and anthill, why doesn’t the just create another ant that will yield to his every whim. Why burn the ant minding his own business?!!

Lol, typical devil Adam. He has no fault, it is God's fault. Keep deceiving yourself. Your sins are the will and actions of God right? We can see how well you are doing with the world. Look at this height of ignorance, even a 5 year old knows that humans are capable of and already destroying the world. You would make a beautiful ostrich.

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Lol, typical devil Adam.

Is this supposed to be an insult? Why?!

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He has no fault, it is God's fault. Keep deceiving yourself. Your sins are the will and actions of God right?

I don’t have any sins because sin means nothing outside your religions and I am not an adherent.

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We can see how well you are doing with the world. Look at this height of ignorance, even a 5 year old knows that humans are capable of and already destroying the world. You would make a beautiful ostrich.

Humans are incapable of destroying the world. The world was here before you and it will be here after you. All humans can do is make it inhabitable for themselves through their own ignorance and madness but the earth will be.

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We breed even scorpions and snakes. So what's your point?

You can take care of the cockroaches instead of killing them. Why do you choose to kill? Have you no emphathy?

Read my question again.

Anon4:
Your question suggests that God happily goes about 'making' war.
There are Divine laws. If we break them it God's job to punish or reward us for it. Whether it's his will or not.

I think you make strawmen to argue with. Read and understand what I write before you respond or don't bother me.

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Is this supposed to be an insult? Why?!

No, it's a Bible fact. Like stating that a sick person is sick or a fat/short person is fat/short.

I don’t have any sins because sin means nothing outside your religions and I am not an adherent.

Lol, then you should not be here discussing God and anthills, you live in another world right?

Humans are incapable of destroying the world. The world was here before you and it will be here after you. All humans can do is make it inhabitable for themselves through their own ignorance and madness but the earth will be.

You're indeed a beautiful ostrich if you're so thick to think i was referring to the mantle and the inner core. We're using up all the resources and leaving next to nothing for generations to follow. We've polluted the waters, are destroying the atmosphere, the climate, the soil, other species and our very selves and can very soon cause serious droughts, storms and flooding. You think this is only about your little street? You need proper education, unfortunately i am not here to give you that. You may try Coursera or Edx or something. They offer some free courses.

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You think this is only about your little street? You need proper education, unfortunately i am not here to give you that. You may try Coursera or Edx or something. They offer some free courses.

“My little street”. Nice straw man there just so you can feel smart.

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“My little street”. Nice straw man there just so you can feel smart.

It's not a strawman, you are embarrassingly ignorant of the world around you. Smartness is not a feeling, it is a God given, biblically established fact. i am fearfully and wonderfully made. Do you goof more than you breathe?

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It's not a strawman, you are embarrassingly ignorant of the world around you. Smartness is not a feeling, it is a God given, biblically established fact. i am fearfully and wonderfully made. Do you goof more than you breathe?

Is it your god that made you to be so smug? LoLz.