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Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by tnerro1(m): 10:49am On Mar 17, 2022 |
See scence, the money we are meant to pay you is in the account that you have frozen, we give you the go ahead to take the money we owe you from the account you froze. Chai, I like these Russians, scence no go kill them |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by djon78(m): 10:50am On Mar 17, 2022 |
wisdomIspeace: You see the Chinese are so much smarter than we envisage them When I did some trip to Asia my world view completely changed Oh that Africa should learn from these folks. We have so much to learn. Facebook, Twitter and many social media are banned in China They have there own version and there founders are also big billionaires Look at how tiktok has entered the global social media. It's from China Wonder why Trump went after Huawei, they have become massive. See the black man is the worst hit and he needs to get Sense or else colonialism 2.0 will continue. While our intellectuals and ideologists are licking the butt of the West, no creativity, no outside the box thinking. Only buffoonery 6 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by 00FFT00(m): 10:51am On Mar 17, 2022 |
controlaltdeleat: When the dust settles, any agreement to rehabilitate Russia into the world economy must include using its seized assets to rebuild and restore the Ukrainian people. A post Putin government will readily acquiesce to that arrangement. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by mach7(m): 10:54am On Mar 17, 2022 |
ecolime:A country that has agreed to be a neutral state will not still be seeking for weapons, missiles and aircraft to continue prolonging the conflict. The Ukrainians say one thing today and then tomorrow, say something else. This means that they and their masters in Washington DC haven't really come to the realization that the operation will continue until all the stated goals are met, which is the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine. The goals will be achieved either militarily or around the negotiating table. BTW, on the debt payment, it isn't madness but commonsense. The knew that Russia had debt obligations to pay and yet they went to ahead to freeze the money to be used in repaying. Who is the defaulter here, Russia or the West? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by funshint(m): 10:55am On Mar 17, 2022 |
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Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by drmuchin: 10:58am On Mar 17, 2022 |
tonididdy: VERY STUPID |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Invitationn: 11:02am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Sanchez01:It's valid. The knowledge of their frozen assets is public. International nvestors can't pretend they don't know. Also, there's another plan to pay them in rouble if the foreign assets remain frozen. 4 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Invitationn: 11:04am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Kingpele:It's more complicated than that. Their currency but Russian assets right? Russian sweat. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by needanswer: 11:04am On Mar 17, 2022 |
MangekyoAlt: Majorly internal debt not external debt. The difference is very important in the stability of the dollar, if not the dollar will have to be devalued drastically. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Chukwudozzie(m): 11:07am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Brilliant move, these guys really thought this through. And if the order isn't obeyed, then payment will have to be made in rubees. Hmmm this is getting interesting. Mynd44: |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Sanchez01: 11:12am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Invitationn:The condition of their bond is to pay in USD. They chose that. They will automatically default if they move to pay in Ruble. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by BabaIbo: 11:13am On Mar 17, 2022 |
NGArmyTerrorist: I don't expect head slammers to reason properly, when they have slammed off their sense. You think those handling USA's is dumb as you? |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by GerogeI(m): 11:19am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Advision:You mean most western companies. You guys seem to be unable to wrap your heads around the fact that out of the 7billiion people on earth, western countries are just about 20%. Why you keep masking western intrest as international interest is rooted in colonial brainwashing. China, Iran, Turkey, India, all have investors. Even western investors will still lend to Russia irrespective after the war. They will only lend in Rubble. Lending to Russia is still less risky than lending to Nigeria because they truly have the money to pay. Post this conflict, you will see new trading platforms that are alternatives to western systems. Any country with responsible leaders will ensure their financial system is not solely dependent on swift fir international banking. The same will apply to other business the west are manipulating. More countries will begin to censor and restrict social media, since they can be manipulated by their home governments. Nobody is called "International". It is a term used to give the impression that we are collectively bigger than you. 6 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by dontai(m): 11:23am On Mar 17, 2022 |
GerogeI:.But Russia can tell a sovereign country who to associate with, abi? two can play the game sir. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by shogz89: 11:25am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Sanchez01:lol.. so why is inflation affecting America now? Look at the way you are justifying printing a whooping 3 trillion dollars just to drive down interest rate. You people criticized Nigeria for printing more money couple of years ago. Russia can print rubbles and pay in rubbles if their foreign reserve remain sanctioned and there is nothing any creditor can do about it. Otherwise they wont get a dime until the sanction is relaxed. 2 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Czarina21(f): 11:26am On Mar 17, 2022 |
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Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by shogz89: 11:29am On Mar 17, 2022 |
bizzibodi:Russia can print rubble and pay rubble if they don't have access to their reserve to pay their western creditors. Any western creditor that doesn't accept it will wait until the sanction is off. 1 Like |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by tradepunter: 11:32am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Hahahahahah.... A propaganda crap from Russian state media... Men useless thread.... Next |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by donbrowser(m): 11:36am On Mar 17, 2022 |
NGArmyTerrorist: Mumu of the century lol. You have 10 million naira in your account EFCC freeze your account. They took you to court and judge ask you to pay 2 million naira for bail. Will you tell the court to unfreeze your account first or look for another money? 2 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by donbrowser(m): 11:38am On Mar 17, 2022 |
shogz89: They will lose a lot of money paying through ruble. Imagine getting a debt at 400/$ and you're willing to pay it at 600/$ That's wassup with rubble now. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Sanchez01: 11:38am On Mar 17, 2022 |
shogz89:Justifying? Because I explained what they used the printed $3 trillion for? For the record more than 80% of the USD is outside the United States. You people criticized Nigeria for printing more money couple of years ago.I know where you are headed already but you are grossly mistaken. Printing more money isn't the problem. The question, is what would the monies be used for? The US printed to invest bonds and make businesses and business owners borrow more. Nigeria, on the other hand, printed to pay state governments and worse, WE SPENT N58.6b to print a meagre N2b! You don't print notes to circulate just because the economy is bad. Russia can print rubbles and pay in rubbles if their foreign reserve remain sanctioned and there is nothing any creditor can do about it. Otherwise they wont get a dime until the sanction is relaxed.ALL of you PUTIN BOYS have one thing in common and it is the fact that you don't understand what you argue or fight over but still fight anyways. Even if Putin prints Russian Rubles that can fill the whole of Russia, he can't pay with them because Russia's bond was denominated in Dollars. Attempting to pay in Ruble is automatic default. You're supposed to know this but no, you embody the classic PUTIN BOYS. All the best. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by GerogeI(m): 11:38am On Mar 17, 2022 |
danteg: I get your confusion, its because in Nigeria politicians have been telling us that foreign reserve is where they store our wealth. Foreign reserve is an emergency fund you hold of other countries currencies for emergencies. So if you had a natural disaster or war you can simply use your foreign currency to import what you need. Because the currency is in another governments, who are usually your major trading partners, it makes more sense to leave in with a bank in that country. So Russia does not hold just USD, they will hold Chinese Yuan, and Euros, etc. Some they will also keep as cash with the Russian central bank. They will also keep gold, silver, etc, in case they enter a situation where currencies fail. That's why we keep shouting about the idiots who keep stock piling USD at Nigerian CBN at the detriment of the economy. Once your reserve size can fund your imports for 3 to 5 years, in which time you would have recovered, you do not need more reserve. Rater you pump your wealth back into your economy to make it grow. One of the new ideas around this is sovereign wealth funds. Norway, an European country that is less than 20million or so, has become so rich from oil, that they want to save money for their children. So they go to other countries with bigger economies and keep their extra funds in fixed deposits as investments that their children can recoup. This is a risky way to store wealth, because the money can be lost easily. Nigeria, a very poor country is was trying to copy this under okonjo ideals. Smart countries like China store wealth by using the money to fund projects in other countries as loans for projects that will be executed by their own companies, like Amaechi's railway. They gain both ways by doing this, the money goes back to their economy, create jobs for them at their home, you owe them and you get the luxury of trains. 2 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by helpee(m): 11:39am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Sanchez01:Yes. It is very valid.. Who made america the efcc? Even if the Efcc freezes your account and you have debt obligations, just present evidence your account is frozen. No court in the world will penalize you for that. 2 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Sanchez01: 11:39am On Mar 17, 2022 |
shogz89:And you're still peddling this ignorance?! Dude! 1 Like |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Sanchez01: 11:40am On Mar 17, 2022 |
helpee:Can someone please help me explain to this gentleman man? I'm tired already. |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by Frankiss44(m): 11:41am On Mar 17, 2022 |
djon78: Don't blame anyone if you are sounding like novice.. If you think the dollar is only strong because it is used in doing business then you are not wise and I won't school you for free since you are a proud ignorant person .. You said the United state is the most in debited country that was why I brought in the dangote to show u in a lame man's term what debt is nothing if it can be serviced |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by helpee(m): 11:41am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Sanchez01:You have nothing to explain.. Just rambling. 1 Like |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by GerogeI(m): 11:45am On Mar 17, 2022 |
dontai: Yes, at the international level, there are truly no laws as there is no one to execute them. All those international laws your hear about are majorly bilateral and multi party agreement, which any one can pull out off. International Criminal Court is only a court for small African countries. UK, US, Russia do not recognise it. Infact, they UK went against its ruling in the Falkland wars with Argentina. They only mention the court when it suits their agenda. At the international level, everything is "might is right". If you cannot defeat Russia, then do not offend then. 2 Likes |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by helpee(m): 11:46am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Frankiss44:The dollar is actually backed by nothing. It is just speculatory . The Americans print dollars at will backed by nothing. If the world and when the world dumps the use of dollars as the world's currency, American dollar won't be among the first ten. 1 Like |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by helpee(m): 11:50am On Mar 17, 2022 |
dontai:What are you even saying? America told a sovereign nation as recently as three years they don't recognize the president. They only recognized the opposition and they sanctioned them.. Venezuela. America told a sovereign nation they can't develop nuclear weapons.... IRAQ, north Korea. America invaded a sovereign nation with NATO ... Libya. Infact, on October 25, 1983, AMERICA INVADED GRENADA BECAUSE THE GOVT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH RUSSIA AND CUBA AND THEY BELIEVED RUSSIA COULD USE GRENADA TO ATTACK THE WEST 1 Like |
Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by GerogeI(m): 11:51am On Mar 17, 2022 |
Sanchez01: Oga, Russia is a big country that cannot fit into the fist of the United States. Sanctions by who, a fellow similarly powerful country. These are all stunts to deceive gullible people of Ukraine and you. If US truly wants to engage Russia in an economic war, they know the only economic fight against Russia is to interfere with their oil exports. But they stay as far from this possible. Use your brain to see the world around you, stop relying on colonial education only, because they teach you only things they want you to believe. 4 Likes |
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