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Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:02pm On Mar 15, 2022
MindHacker9009:
The true GOD of the Old Testament is a GOD of War:
Numbers 31
1 The LORD said to Moses,
2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."
3 So Moses said to the people, "Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and to carry out the LORD's vengeance on them.
4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel."
5 So twelve thousand men armed for battle, a thousand from each tribe, were supplied from the clans of Israel.

Psalm 144:1
A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my Rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle—
This is commendable!
So you know that God's people in ancient times do go to war against the enemies of God.

So my question for you today is this:

Who are God's enemies and where are they stationed today?

Remember that there was no worshiper of God in the places God empowered David to kill people. So do you know of any place where there are no worshipers of God? smiley

Please humble yourself and learn from God's modern day worshipers because we know the purpose of war back then and we can confidently tell you that there's no sense in the wars that's going on in the world today! smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 1:37pm On Mar 15, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
[s]This is commendable!
So you know that God's people in ancient times do go to war against the enemies of God.

So my question for you today is this:

Who are God's enemies and where are they stationed today?

Remember that there was no worshiper of God in the places God empowered David to kill people. So do you know of any place where there are no worshipers of God? smiley

Please humble yourself and learn from God's modern day worshipers because we know the purpose of war back then and we can confidently tell you that there's no sense in the wars that's going on in the world today![/s] smiley
You want others to learn from you and cannot use your data to watch youtude videos with documentary evidence on Biblical historical events you have no clue about except many of the children stories you have been reading in your Bible GOD did not write. The truth is that you are a BIG JOKER.

MaxInDHouse:
Explain what you have i'm not used to wasting my precious Data! wink
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:07pm On Mar 15, 2022
MindHacker9009:
You want others to learn from you and cannot use your data to watch youtude videos with documentary evidence on Biblical historical events you have no clue about except many of the children stories you have been reading in your Bible GOD did not write. The truth is that you are a BIG JOKER.
My God made peace reign among all his worshipers throughout the earth so i'm OK with that Sir! smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by Ajmoziz(m): 6:52pm On Mar 15, 2022
Well maybe because the bet shops have their better black magic,do you know what it means to challenge the whole.world saying "if you get mind,come and take my money ,all you have to do is predict correct score"
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:26pm On Mar 15, 2022
Ajmoziz:
Well maybe because the bet shops have their better black magic,do you know what it means to challenge the whole.world saying "if you get mind,come and take my money ,all you have to do is predict correct score"
It's not about "maybe" mammon is the god of goodluck so bet owners knows the spirit behind their business! smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 1:07am On Mar 16, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
My God made peace reign among all his worshipers throughout the earth so i'm OK with that Sir! smiley
You kind of PISS where the gullible ones are being brainwashed and the ones doing the brainwashing are making millions financially is not the kind of PEACE GOD wants for his true worshipers .
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31am On Mar 16, 2022
MindHacker9009:
You kind of PISS where the gullible ones are being brainwashed and the ones doing the brainwashing are making millions financially is not the kind of PEACE GOD wants for his true worshipers .
Good!
My own God promised that He will make all His worshipers think alike so that they will not have to carry weapons against one another in settling disputes! Psalms 46:9; Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3; Zephaniah 3:9

He also foretold how He will do it by making people reason together on the purpose of His holy name {Malachi 3:16-18} then He sent Jesus who taught us to preach and teach in all our neighbourhood in order to gather the friends of PEACE {Matthew 10:11-13} so that we are able to have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} and can become his Witnesses as in Witnesses of the fact that the Prince of Peace has commissioned the PEACE arrangement! Act 1:8

And today Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth have settled all their racial disparities using God's word to make peace reign among ourselves so that while you people carry weapons against one another our own God has made peace reign in our midst!


So let's see the kind of PEACE your God is able to provide as you present the worshipers of your own God and the kind of peace you people have! wink
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 1:57pm On Mar 16, 2022
@MaxInDHouse

Witnesses of Jehovah (Complete Official) - Jeremiah Films

Transcript
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what is happening here may be unique in
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American history
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the marches you see are not protesting
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unfair labor practices or advocating a
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political cause they are here to
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challenge the conscience of the wealthy
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and powerful watchtower society better
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known to the public as Jehovah's
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Witnesses Jehovah's Witnesses have a
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massive international organization with
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millions of members and hundreds of
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millions of dollars if the human base
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but this deeply committed group is not
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likely to be intimidated they have an
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urgent message to deliver you can't see
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the hurt that we feel but we have we
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have so much pain because so many of us
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are separated from our families because
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of the of the watched our organization's
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rules unfair unkind unloving unchristian
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rules the organization sets itself up in
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the place of Christ and that's something
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that the bible does not teach the reason
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we are here today is to attract
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attention
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to a genuine false prophet a genuine
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false prophet that jesus warned us about
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they have lied to us they have deceived
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us and we have the documented evidence
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the world we live in it can be a dark
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and frightening place a breeding place
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for greed heartbreak evil and nightmare
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far removed from mankind's greatest
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dream paradise surely all of us are
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thrilled at the prospect of surviving
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the end of this wicked world and living
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on into God's righteous new order
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what a grand future awaits us this
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confidence statement brimming with hope
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is from the watchtower society's
02:50
publication you can live forever in
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paradise on earth
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it is this promise that attracts the new
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convert to become a Jehovah's Witness
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the thing that attracted me to the
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watchtower society was that they taught
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that Armageddon was so close that those
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who were living now would never have to
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die but that they could live forever I
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think one of the greatest things that
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appeals to the people is that we are
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taught that we were taught that we can
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live forever here on the earth and there
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would be peace perfect peace among men
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and animals the little children could
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play with the animals and there would be
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no harm and no hurt in all of the earth
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Jehovah's Witnesses came along with a
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positive message I thought from the
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Bible God had a plan and purpose for
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Martin Merriman and that is what I
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wanted to please God Martin Merriman was
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not alone on the jehovah's witness road
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statistics show that in the 22-year
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period between 1963 and 1985 the
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Jehovah's Witness organization grew from
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1 million members to 3 million Jehovah's
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Witness spokesman Eugene Mortensen they
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increase the travas Witnesses are
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experiencing right now is phenomenal
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last year for example worldwide we had a
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six point eight percent increase it all
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began in Pennsylvania in the late
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18-hundreds when Charles taze Russell
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came under the influence of a second
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Adventist preacher Russell initiated his
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own Bible study class a small group that
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would ultimately grow to become the
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Watchtower Bible and tract Society
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borrowing directly from the prophetic
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speculations of Nelson barber a New York
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second Adventist Russell claimed that in
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1799 the world had entered the time of
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the end that in 1874 Jesus Christ had
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returned invisibly and that the world
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would come to an end in the year 1914 in
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1879 Russell then 27 years of age was so
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passionately convinced these prophetic
05:08
dates were given by God that he sold his
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prosperous clothing business and struck
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up in a new direction with very little
05:16
education or theological background he
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began printing the magazine Zions
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Watchtower and Herald of Christ's
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presence known today as the watchtower
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this publication which has grown from an
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initial printing of 6000 to well over
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288 million copies annually dictates all
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major doctrines to jehovah's witnesses
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during his lifetime Russell authored a
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vast amount of literature including a
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series of volumes entitled studies in
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the scriptures according to Russell no
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one could understand the Bible without
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these books and reading the Bible alone
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would lead only to spiritual darkness
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one of Russell's teachings was that
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Egypt's Great Pyramid was designed and
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placed there by God as his second
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witness next to the Bible it would be an
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instrument to reveal his great plan of
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the ages for mankind
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this measurement indicates the length of
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the year the weight of the earth
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the distance to the Sun etc Russell
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believed his dates and chronology were
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confirmed by the measurements of the
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interior passageways of the Great
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Pyramid according to Russell the
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passageways verified 1914 as the year
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the world would end finally 1914 came
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and went
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Russell and his followers were not
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raptured from the earth and the end had
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not come john knight who was 15 years
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old at the time remembers what came next
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well in 1914 came of course we had to
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change our views just like we had to
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change views later the date was pushed
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forward to 1915 then 1918 certainly
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Armageddon was just around the corner
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but in 1916 Charles taze Russell died
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sick weary and disappointed a massive
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stone pyramid stands today at his
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gravesite as an embarrassing reminder of
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his false prophecies through hard fisted
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inside political manipulation Joseph
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Franklin Rutherford a Missouri lawyer
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who had given himself the title of judge
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became the second president of the
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Watchtower Bible and tract Society in
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1917 in 1918 judge Rutherford's lecture
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entitled millions now living will never
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die was the beginning of a worldwide
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recruiting effort called the millions
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campaign
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not too surprisingly it proclaimed the
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coming destruction of the existing world
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it would happen soon
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in 1925 based upon the promises have
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both in the Divine Word we must reach
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the positive and indisputable conclusion
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it pains now living well never die in
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1920 the millions book was published in
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it Rutherford claimed the Bible proved
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that in 1925 Abraham Isaac Jacob and
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other faithful men of old were to be
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resurrected to rule henceforth as
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princes on the new paradise earth fully
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convinced the Rutherfords prophecy was
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true many witnesses sold their homes and
09:02
businesses and took to the road living
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in cars and trucks like itinerant
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peddlers they spread the warning as
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19:25 drew closer some farmers even
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refused to plant crops because they
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believed the end was at hand
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finally 1925 Higgs and as in 1914
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nothing happened
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once again the watchtower societies
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prophecy had proven false
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as Russell had done Rutherford doggedly
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held to the story that the end was just
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around the corner in 1929 the judge had
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this palatial mansion constructed it was
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deeded to Abraham Isaac and Jacob so
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they and other ancient worthies would
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have a place to live when they were
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resurrected located in an exclusive
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district of San Diego it was given the
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name Beth serene Hebrew for house of the
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princes
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the world entered the Great Depression
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but Rutherford lived like a millionaire
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spending the winter months at best
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serene summering in Europe
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as Americans suffered through poverty
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and deprivation Rutherford enjoyed the
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use of two 16-cylinder Cadillacs
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under Rutherford the Watchtower Bible
10:45
and tract society became a well-oiled
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corporation new books literature and
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tracts poured forth in a flood to be
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sold door-to-door by faithful witnesses
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he drove his followers to labor hard for
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the Lord he advised young couples not to
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marry but to put all their energies into
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proclaiming the kingdom even portable
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photographs were utilized at the
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doorstep cause the people have been
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induced to believe that Christianity and
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religion
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are the same thing around the world
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zealous witnesses paraded in front of
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churches on Sunday mornings bearing
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placards with the slogan religion is a
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snare and a racket keeping up with the
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times the society constructed its own
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radio station and by 1933 there were
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four hundred three stations nationwide
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broadcasting Rutherford's abusive
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railings against the clergy politicians
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and what he referred to as the greedy
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commercial us on the radio and in print
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he continually stressed that the end of
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the world
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was just months away the end finally
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came but only for Rutherford in 1942 he
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died at Beth serene the house he had
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built as a luxurious testimony to God's
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name in retrospect perhaps the only
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testimony this lovely mansion ever gave
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was to the cash value of false prophecy
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in 1948 the society quietly sold the
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property covering up an embarrassing
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chapter in its history today most modern
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Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware that
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Beth Sarim ever existed
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quit Rutherford's pastor too flamboyant
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era of charismatic personalities past as
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well
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today fueled by the anxieties of a
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nuclear age the watchtower society is a
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multinational corporate giant spreading
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its new message of doom to every corner
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of the globe
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standing between God and the millions of
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jehovah's witnesses his an autocratic
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ruling council called the governing body
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because Jehovah's Witnesses believe the
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Word of God is channeled to humanity
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through this elite committee alone
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these men rule with unchallenged
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authority every witness is subject to
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their dictatorship from the cradle to
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the grave Raymond Franz author of the
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book crisis of conscience was a member
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of the watchtower society's governing
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body for nine of his 60 years as a
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jehovah's witness his account of their
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secret sessions is revealing I must say
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that it was one of the most
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disillusioning experiences my life it
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came as a a rude awakening to me to see
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what actually went on I envisioned the
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governing body as the body of men to
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whom the Bible God's Word was the
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controlling force and every one of their
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decisions who really dug into the
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scriptures to make sure that everything
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that they did was soundly based upon the
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Bible and when I got into the governing
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body I found that the Bible was rarely
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appealed to was rarely used that mainly
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was a matter of discussing an
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organizational policy and how to apply
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this organizational policy and I found
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that again and again when issues came up
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even those scriptures might be presented
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if there was an organizational policy
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that policy would take precedence over
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Scripture and I couldn't help but think
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of Jesus words in Matthew 23 that they
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have made the Word of God null and void
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because of their tradition while the
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organization may not always consult
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scripture in determining policy they
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never hesitate to cite scripture as
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proof of their authority the watchtower
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society claims that it is the faithful
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and wise servant or as Jehovah's
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Witnesses have translated it the
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faithful and discreet slave spoken of in
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Matthew 24 Leonard and Marjorie credi
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and our authors of the book
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witnesses of Jehova for 22 years they
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were loyal Jehovah's Witnesses Leonard
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had risen to the position of Elder and
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presiding overseer the original belief
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was that Charles taze Russell was the
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chosen slave the watchtower society
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taught that the stewardship of the
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things of God had been taken away from
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the Christian churches and given to
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Russell
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when Russell died they had to adjust
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their belief to fit a new set of facts
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now they claim that in 1919 having
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invisibly come into power over the earth
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Christ needed an organization to
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announce his kingdom and administer his
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affairs here so the story goes he
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carefully examined all the Christian
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religions and rejected them in favor of
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the watchtower society
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Peter Gregerson was a member of the
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watchtower society for nearly 50 years
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he was a highly respected elder and
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served in a number of responsible
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positions and as a result I started to
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do some very serious thinking about
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things that were going on inside the
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organization it seemed to me though that
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everything always came back to the
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question is the watchtower society and
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its leadership
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are they the faithful slave I really
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wanted to prove to myself that the
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watchtower society was right Gregerson
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decided to examine the same teachings
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that Christ would have examined in 1919
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when he was supposedly evaluating the
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world's religious organizations the
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watchtowers latest teachings at that
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time were published in a book called the
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finished mystery what I found absolutely
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destroyed my confidence in the
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watchtower they had said that the end of
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the world would come in 1914 and in this
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book that was just hot off the presses
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for Christ to investigate we're saying
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that by the spring of 1918 millions of
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people would be dying in the streets
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throughout the world it wasn't happening
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in 1918 Christ was supposedly examining
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this written material to see whether the
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watchtower society should be put in
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charge of all of God's interests on the
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earth and they were guilty of the worst
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kind of false prophecy in addition to
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false prophecy
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the Finnish mystery contained a number
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of other pretty ludicrous
17:26
interpretations of Scripture according
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to them revelation 12 clearly shows that
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Michael and his angels are the Pope of
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Rome and his bishops revelation 14
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mentions a distance of sixteen hundred
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furlongs which this fascinating book
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explains as the distance from Scranton
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Pennsylvania to Watchtower headquarters
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in Brooklyn provided you go by way of
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the Hoboken Ferry and the Lackawanna
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Railroad the Bible speaks of the great
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sea monster Leviathan you may want to
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know what the Leviathan really looked
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like the finished mystery told jehovah's
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witnesses that leviathan was a steam
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locomotive and this little coupling link
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was its tongue this book the watchtowers
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main teaching book of the time included
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a prediction that in 1918 demons would
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invade the minds of the Christian Church
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which they refer to as the swine class
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we wish every Jehovah's Witness today
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could read the finished mystery for
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themselves they would probably reach the
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same conclusion Peter Gregerson did I
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spent a lot of time praying a lot of
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time thinking came to the conclusion
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there was no possible way that Christ
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Jesus as a judge could have looked at
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this information and have given the
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authority that was claimed by the
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watchtower society
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still Jehovah's Witnesses maintain that
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theirs is the only true religion all of
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those constitute the worldwide Empire of
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false religion the [ __ ] of Babylon
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spoken of in the book of Revelation the
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watchtower says these religions are
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guilty of spiritual fornication with the
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political and commercial rulers of the
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world and will all be slaughtered by God
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at Armageddon only the true Christians
19:11
Jehovah's Witnesses will survive fm
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guide a watchtower spokesman and member
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of the headquarters staff explains what
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we feel Jehovah's Witnesses are the only
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true religion otherwise we would be
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teaching something else but the reason
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is because we follow the Bible
19:29
completely to support its beliefs the
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watchtower organization has published
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its own version of the Bible called the
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New World Translation to lend credence
19:37
to this translation the watchtower
19:39
society has deliberately misquoted a
19:41
number of well-known Greek scholars dr.
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Jo Monti an eminent Greek scholar was
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one of the authorities quoted out of
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context the watchtower society has
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implied that he supports their new world
19:52
translation dr. Mann t disagrees I've
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never found any so-called translation
19:59
that goes so far away from what the
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scripture actually teaches as these
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books published by two overs witnesses
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they are so far away from us there is
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and the original Hebrew and the original
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Greek dr. Mattie called the Jehovah's
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Witness Bible a shocking mistranslation
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obsolete and incorrect you can't follow
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theirs because it's a biased and it's
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deceptive because they deliberately
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changed words in a passage of Scripture
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to make it fit into their doctrine they
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distorted the scripture and many passage
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scores and scores of passages in New
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Testament dealing with the deity of
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Christ especially
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to find additional support for their
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altered scriptures the watchtower has
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even turned to the occult the New
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Testament a Bible translation by
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Johannes Gruber has been used as an
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authority in many of their publications
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Johannes Gruber was a spiritualist
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heavily involved with the occult his
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translation was completed under the
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direction of spirit messengers with the
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aid of his wife who was a self-professed
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spirit medium the willingness of the
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watchtower to accept any authority is
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reflected in the words of Charles taze
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Russell in the July 1879 issue of Zions
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watchtower where he stated a truth
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presented by Satan himself his just as
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true as a truth stated by God accept
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truth wherever you find it no matter
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what it contradicts this philosophy is
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reflected in the New World Translation
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of Jehovah's Witnesses when early
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Watchtower teachings that the world
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entered the so called time of the end in
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1799 that Jesus returned invisibly in
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1874 and that the world would end in
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1914 were proven false doctrine was
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conveniently readjusted in the new
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version 1914 became the date of both
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Christ's invisible return and the
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beginning of the time of the end this
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date was put forth not as theory or
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interpretation but as hard indisputable
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fact
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watchtower society official Eugene
22:39
Mortensen all those witnesses from the
22:41
study of the Bible have firm belief in
22:44
the fact that since the fall of 1914
22:46
Jesus has come into Kingdom power and as
22:49
he prophesied in the 24th chapter of
22:51
Matthew the generation saw the beginning
22:53
of this time would not pass away until
22:56
all things would be accomplished yet
22:58
that means also the end of this wicked
23:00
system thing the watchtower society is
23:07
very concerned that time is running out
23:09
for the so called generation of 1914 a
23:11
few who are still living are quite
23:13
elderly and should they all pass away
23:15
before Armageddon Jehovah's Witnesses
23:17
will be faced with another false
23:18
prophecy to explain anticipating this
23:21
future embarrassment the chairman's
23:23
committee of the governing body actually
23:25
prepared a document suggesting the date
23:27
be changed from 1914 to 1957 Bremen
23:31
Franz was a member of the governing body
23:32
when this recommendation was considered
23:35
now in this document they suggests and
23:41
advances a an idea that the generation
23:47
that would see the time of the end of
23:50
all things should not be counted from
23:52
1914 they fix on Jesus statement that
23:56
there would be signs in the heavens and
23:59
so they suggest here that the date
24:03
should be moved up to 1957 when the
24:06
Sputnik was sent into space by the
24:08
Russians and they say now this is the
24:12
celestial phenomena that would indicate
24:14
the generation that would see the final
24:18
wind up the Sputnik idea was ultimately
24:21
rejected by the governing body but for
24:23
the generation of 1914 time is running
24:26
out
24:28
how did the watchtower arrive at 1914 as
24:31
an all-important date their chronology
24:34
is based on the year 607 BC which they
24:37
claim is the year Jerusalem fell to the
24:40
Babylonians carl olaf johnson swedish
24:44
author of the book the Gentile times
24:46
reconsidered is a former Jehovah's
24:48
Witness elder and pioneer minister i
24:51
didn't question this chronology in the
24:54
beginning because i thought the Bible
24:55
supported it I knew of course that the
24:59
historians dated the desolation of
25:01
Jerusalem not in 607 but in 587 there
25:05
were 586 but in 1968 I conducted a Bible
25:10
study with a man who wanted to know why
25:13
historians they prefer to date 20 years
25:16
later and so I started to investigate
25:20
the matter and I soon discovered that
25:23
the historians had very strong evidence
25:26
in this fort then Raymond Johnson
25:28
compiled his research and send it to
25:30
Watchtower headquarters but the
25:32
Society's leaders were determined to
25:34
keep their doctrinal system intact I got
25:38
the letter with a warning
25:39
I was warned that I shall not say my
25:42
findings with other witnesses to conceal
25:47
the facts and suppress his seven years
25:49
of research the watchtower society
25:52
excommunicated Carl Olaf Johnson our
25:57
teaching on Jesus Christ is that Jesus
25:59
is the Son of God he was the first thing
26:02
that Jehovah created and through him
26:05
other creative works were then now some
26:08
religions teach that God and Jesus are
26:10
one the same but the bible does not
26:12
teach that and therefore neither do
26:14
jehovah's witnesses we believe that the
26:17
Bible teaches that Jesus carries out a
26:19
number of functions or Java God the most
26:22
time for example in the Hebrew
26:25
Scriptures he is referred to as Michael
26:27
Michael literally translated into
26:30
English means me who is like God
26:32
Witnesses believe that Jesus Christ is a
26:35
spirit creature a super angel the first
26:39
creation of Jehovah God who prior to
26:42
coming to earth as a man existed in
26:45
heaven has Michael the Archangel Jesus
26:49
started out originally as the locals for
26:56
Michael the Archangel
27:04
who then came to earth as the virgin
27:07
born son of Mary he was a perfect
27:12
sinless man but he was only a man devoid
27:19
of all divinity Jesus walked the earth
27:22
as a man becoming the Christ only when
27:26
he was baptized Jehovah's Witnesses hold
27:30
the cross in contempt feeling that it is
27:33
nothing more than a pagan symbol used by
27:35
apostate christened 'm instead they
27:38
teach that at the completion of his
27:40
ministry Jesus died not on the cross but
27:44
on an upright stake
27:48
Christ's body was then laid in a tomb
27:50
where it was disintegrated by God
27:53
totally destroyed forever
27:57
Jesus was then recreated by the father
28:01
before going to heaven he materialized
28:05
in different bodies on different
28:07
occasions to convince his disciples and
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others that he had really been
28:11
resurrected Jesus returned to his father
28:16
in heaven where once again he became
28:21
Michael the Archangel he will never
28:25
again be seen on the earth in visible
28:27
form but instead rules invisibly from
28:31
the heavens when he executes judgment
28:36
over the world at Armageddon he will
28:38
destroy all but the faithful Jehovah's
28:40
Witnesses
29:13
Jesus alias Michael will always remain
29:16
invisible to those on earth and can be
29:20
seen only by the 144,000 select
29:23
Jehovah's Witnesses who rule with him
29:26
from heaven if you should choose to
29:32
accept the watchtowers current prophecy
29:35
of Armageddon whatever that may be and
29:36
decide you protect yourself by becoming
29:39
a jehovah's witness you will find
29:41
yourself in a unique to class religion
29:43
only the upper class the 144,000 spoken
29:48
of in Revelation are guaranteed a place
29:51
in heaven and they are known as the
29:53
anointed the watchtower society teaches
29:56
that the vast majority of Jehovah's
29:58
Witnesses constitute a secondary group
30:00
referred to as the other sheep they have
30:03
no heavenly hope but must remain on
30:06
earth for all eternity once a year on
30:11
the anniversary of the Last Supper
30:13
Jehovah's Witnesses and invited persons
30:15
gather for this communion like ceremony
30:18
only members of the anointed class who
30:21
are alive today about 9,000 worldwide
30:24
partake of the bread and wine the
30:26
millions of other sheep will not take
30:29
communion the other sheep are not in the
30:32
New Covenant and therefore have no
30:34
personal relationship with Jesus Christ
30:37
how then do they hope to attain
30:39
salvation the jehovah's witness is told
30:42
he may not look to Jesus alone for
30:44
everlasting life as one of the other
30:47
sheep he must also depend on a
30:49
watchtower organization for his passage
30:51
to paradise in turn the organization
30:55
says he's required to earn his salvation
30:57
largely by calling door-to-door it's
31:01
strange but their's they seem able to
31:03
teach two different things opposite
31:05
things simultaneously they agree that
31:09
the Bible teaches that we are saved by
31:11
grace are as they put it God's
31:13
undeserved kindness and not by works and
31:16
yet the average Witness believes he
31:19
hasn't the slightest doubt that unless
31:21
he performs the works that are laid out
31:24
for him by the watchtower society
31:26
the witnessing activity going
31:29
door-to-door regular meeting attendance
31:33
and other things that are brought out
31:34
that he will never gain everlasting life
31:38
once in the organization witnesses
31:42
attend five hours of meetings a week in
31:45
addition they are expected to devote
31:47
many hours a month going door to door
31:50
selling literature and gaining converts
31:53
striving always to prove themselves
31:55
worthy of escaping God's wrath at
31:58
Armageddon even though we believed that
32:01
God was love we were always afraid that
32:04
he was going to zap us at some time
32:06
Armageddon my head and we might not make
32:08
it
32:09
even if even if we didn't go out from
32:12
the door-to-door ministry on a weekend
32:13
and took our family out up to the lake
32:16
or something we didn't go out the door
32:18
go we felt guilty all the time
32:28
in order to keep a close check on the
32:30
activities of each member the
32:32
organization requires them to turn in a
32:35
monthly time report if they want to be
32:37
retained on the roles as active
32:39
Jehovah's Witnesses we don't keep any
32:41
membership records per se but the only
32:44
record we have is those who actually go
32:46
door-to-door preaching
32:59
today when the new Jehovah's Witnesses
33:02
baptize rather than using the biblical
33:05
format of baptizing in the name of the
33:07
Father the Son and the Holy Spirit the
33:10
witness is baptized in the name of the
33:13
Father the Son and the Spirit directed
33:15
organization this is a dedication to
33:21
them that is without any reservation
33:23
they are now going to set their entire
33:25
life aside to do their creator's will
33:28
thus baptize that Jehovah's Witness is
33:31
now committed to slave for the
33:33
organization until the world comes to an
33:37
end Jehovah's Witnesses exist in a rigid
33:43
structure thou shalt not environment
33:45
they are forbidden to vote or hold
33:47
elective office celebrate holidays
33:50
belong to the YMCA or YWCA salute the
33:54
flag sing the national anthem or
33:57
participate in other patriotic
33:58
activities they can't serve in the
34:01
military or work for a military
34:02
organization they may not accept blood
34:05
transfusions read anything critical of
34:07
the watchtower society or associate with
34:09
former Jehovah's Witnesses they are
34:11
forbidden to even attend church if life
34:15
is narrow for the adult witness the
34:18
problem is greatly intensified for their
34:20
school-aged children the watchtower
34:22
society has published a book entitled
34:24
school and Jehovah's Witnesses it
34:27
defines for schools what activities
34:30
witness children are forbidden to
34:32
participate in things like birthdays
34:35
Russians Christmas and Easter sports
34:39
mother's or Father's Day Valentine's Day
34:43
or Thanksgiving saluting the flag or
34:46
school dances singing the national
34:49
anthem or saying the Pledge of
34:52
Allegiance to the United States of
34:59
America
35:04
children are real victims in this
35:07
Jehovah's Witness children cannot
35:09
participate in many of the normal school
35:11
activities and as a result are often
35:14
mocked by their classmates they are
35:16
really torn because on one hand they
35:18
want to please their parents and on the
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other hand they want to be accepted by
35:22
their teachers and classmates there is
35:24
no way they can win they are literally
35:27
torn apart emotionally I know this
35:31
firsthand because my own daughter cried
35:35
nearly every day in school from the
35:39
first time she entered until an
35:41
extremely loving teacher made her feel
35:44
at ease in the fourth grade the life of
35:48
a witness child is very isolated because
35:51
playing with non witness schoolmates and
35:54
neighborhood children is considered bad
35:56
Association the watchtower society
35:59
presents Jehovah's Witnesses as clean
36:02
happy and unquestionably moral the Bible
36:07
has a lot to say about family life and
36:09
the reason Jehovah's Witnesses have such
36:10
happy families is because we try to
36:12
apply the principles that are found in
36:14
the Bible this protects them from any of
36:16
the pressures the problems that affect a
36:19
family life today
36:20
for example Jonah's witness is well not
36:22
immune to the pressures and problems are
36:24
able to cope with the difficulties that
36:26
husbands and wives face the children are
36:29
confronted with every day and so we have
36:31
a very low incidence our family
36:34
dissolving or juvenile delinquency drug
36:37
abuse and alcoholism that shows the
36:39
benefit in the profit following God's
36:42
Word mostly former Jehovah's Witnesses
36:45
disagree growing up as a child within
36:48
Jehovah's Witnesses
36:49
I always thought that this was God's
36:50
clean organization but when I got older
36:53
I found out that there were divorces
36:56
there was gross immorality within the
36:58
congregation's
36:59
and that we were actually no different
37:02
than the ones we were condemning as an
37:05
elder I saw the seedy side of the
37:06
congregation members would come to me
37:09
with their problems and I found out that
37:11
even elders were involved sometimes in
37:13
crooked business practices and an
37:14
immorality and I began to discover that
37:17
we were really no better than the people
37:18
on the outside of the organization but I
37:21
left Bethel it was hard for me to even
37:23
share with my mother and father what was
37:25
going on up there that the drunken
37:27
parties that went on and the
37:29
homosexuality and things like this
37:31
finally the watchtower had to admit that
37:34
immorality had spread to the highest
37:36
levels of the organization saying
37:38
shocking as it is even some who have
37:41
been prominent in Jehovah's organization
37:43
has succumbed to immoral practices
37:46
including homosexuality wife-swapping
37:48
and child molesting
37:54
alcoholism depression and mental
37:57
disorders among Jehovah's Witnesses have
38:00
come to the attention of psychiatric
38:02
professionals dr. Jerry Bergman is a
38:05
former Jehovah's Witness and a trained
38:08
psychologist in my experience in working
38:11
for a number of psychiatric clinics as a
38:13
therapist I've worked with many many
38:15
Jehovah's Witnesses and I find that many
38:18
of them suffer from severe emotional
38:20
problems from schizophrenia from severe
38:23
depression alcoholism and other problems
38:25
I've also consulted the scientific
38:28
literature on this question and I found
38:30
that it clearly confirms that the mental
38:32
illness rate among the witnesses is
38:34
clearly above average one of the most
38:38
intimidating devices used by the
38:40
watchtower society is the threat of
38:43
appearing before a Judicial Committee of
38:45
elders public censure even
38:49
disfellowshipping can be the sentence of
38:51
this powerful Court the inflexibility of
38:55
watchtower policies has led to thousands
38:57
of instances of mental distress even
39:01
suicide
39:03
dottie hikes family experienced the cold
39:06
steel of watchtower doctrine when her
39:09
sixteen-year-old son billy became
39:11
romantically involved with a marriage
39:13
ava's witness woman conscience-stricken
39:16
billy turned to his parents he was a
39:20
very upset
39:21
extremely distraught and he just didn't
39:25
know what to do and he was making
39:27
statements like I just can't go on I
39:29
just can't face this and he was
39:33
threatening to commit suicide my husband
39:36
I talked with him for hours and did
39:39
everything and said everything we knew
39:40
to do to try to get him to realize that
39:42
there's no situation too bad that you
39:44
can't face but things just were not
39:48
getting any better so as witnesses
39:51
you're taught not to seek the
39:53
professional help of anyone so we felt
39:57
our hands were so tied we didn't know
39:58
what to do the family turned to an elder
40:01
of the congregation for help the elder
40:04
called Billy outside and his parents
40:07
felt a solution was near but their hopes
40:10
were short-lived we felt the elder would
40:13
really have some kind of words of
40:15
consolation for him even though no one
40:17
condoned what he had done this boy was
40:20
reaching out for help and he did need
40:23
someone to console him and he felt so
40:27
guilty and sought a loss and instead the
40:32
elder just said the committee will deal
40:34
with you tomorrow
40:36
he went to my husband's truck where he
40:39
kept a small amount of paraquat in a
40:41
container and Billy took the paraquad
40:44
and he took one swallow of it wait a min
40:48
the hospital within 20 minutes
40:51
exactly three weeks later he died
41:02
did the witness congregation respond
41:04
with compassion to this tragedy Billy's
41:08
sister Rhonda when he died it really
41:10
devastated me at his memorial service
41:13
none of his friends that he had known
41:15
all of his life were able to attend and
41:17
that really hurt me the Jehovah's
41:20
Witnesses claim to bring the families
41:22
together through them my brother killed
41:25
himself my mother tried to kill herself
41:28
my two sisters and my brother will not
41:31
speak to me my grandmother will not
41:34
speak to me she wouldn't let me see my
41:36
grandfather before he passed away they
41:39
didn't bring our family close together
41:41
they nearly totally destroyed it while
41:45
the members of the governing body may
41:47
escape blame for the death of one
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desperate boy they can hardly escape
41:53
responsibility for their policies in the
41:55
African country of Malawi policies have
41:58
left thousands of witnesses raped
42:00
homeless or dead in the mid-1960s in the
42:05
African country of Malawi all citizens
42:08
were ordered by the government to
42:09
purchase a 25-cent party identification
42:11
card jehovah's witnesses were forbidden
42:14
by the watched our society's branch
42:15
office from complying with that law as a
42:18
result jehovah's witnesses suffered a
42:20
terrible persecution
42:22
homes and crops were burned thousands of
42:26
women were raped and some 20,000
42:28
witnesses were forced to flee Malawi in
42:30
two neighboring countries to live in
42:32
refugee camps their lives scarred
42:34
forever now Jehovah's Witnesses are
42:38
taught that it's a sin to be involved in
42:42
any way with politics they're also
42:45
taught that it's just as greatest sin to
42:47
have anything to do with the military
42:49
but we have two situations one in a
42:52
country in Africa Malawi and another in
42:56
Mexico where two opposite rulings were
43:02
allowed to stay in effect at the same
43:03
time and it's almost unbelievable the
43:06
results of this when Jehovah's Witnesses
43:09
living in Mexico heard that their
43:12
brothers had suffered this terrible
43:14
persecution over a 25-cent party card
43:16
they were conscience-stricken because in
43:19
Mexico every young man is expected to
43:22
fulfill one year of military service he
43:25
receives what's called a Katia
43:27
certificate the witnesses customarily
43:32
and regularly would bribe a military
43:36
official to fill out this card stating
43:40
that they completed their military
43:41
instruction and that they were now in
43:44
the first reserves of the army why were
43:47
they doing this they gave me copies of
43:51
letters from the watchtower society's
43:53
headquarters in New York stating that
43:56
this was purely a matter for individual
43:58
conscience and that if the person felt
44:01
he could do this pay a bribe to a
44:03
military official get this card saying
44:06
he had completed his military training
44:08
was now remember the first reserves this
44:11
was up to him Jehovah's Witnesses
44:13
believe the men who make up the
44:14
governing body are chosen and directed
44:16
by God yet out of apparent indifference
44:18
or ignorance or worse the governing body
44:21
allowed witnesses to illegally bribe
44:23
officials while at the same time holding
44:25
others to a policy that resulted in our
44:27
wholesale rape and slaughter it's
44:29
difficult for me to believe these
44:31
actions were inspired by God
44:37
the control chemicals of the governing
44:39
body extend even into the life and death
44:41
world of medical treatment
44:46
in the 17th chapter of Leviticus and the
44:48
10th verse it states that one should not
44:51
eat blood of any sort this means that
44:54
God does not want us to sustain our life
44:56
off of the life of some other creature
44:58
and that's without reason because God
45:01
has forbidden it we abstain from taking
45:03
look the blood issue in the back of our
45:05
minds was bothering us because as
45:07
Jehovah's Witnesses if we freely gave a
45:09
blood transfusion to our daughter we'd
45:11
be excommunicated we'd be this
45:13
fellowship well the doctors finally came
45:15
to our room and they just it was just
45:17
like an ultimatum they said listen we
45:19
know from our records that you're
45:20
Jehovah's Witness we know that you don't
45:22
take blood transfusions and the doctor
45:24
looked me straight in the eye said
45:25
mister mrs. Blizzard you have to make a
45:27
decision yes or no whether your child
45:29
lives or dies
45:30
I remember going over to the bed and she
45:32
had these cords and wires keeping her
45:34
alive life-support systems
45:35
and holding this lift child it was our
45:38
only daughter and just going over to the
45:41
window and looking out watching the
45:42
clouds in the sky and just started to
45:44
weep and I said Oh God Jehovah and I
45:47
prayed to Jehovah we just had a real
45:49
distinct impression that we were
45:51
supposed to obey God's law and go by
45:54
what we had always been taught and that
45:56
we were to let our daughter die and so
46:00
we just called the doctors back in and
46:02
told them that we had just had to let
46:05
her die that we had to obey God's law
46:06
about a half an hour later a Sheriff
46:09
Deputy came to our room and gave my wife
46:11
and I both citations and they turned us
46:13
that a court order has already been
46:15
issued your daughter is going to get the
46:18
blood and they also warned the staff of
46:21
the hospital not to allow us to take
46:23
Jennie out of the hospital and we were
46:25
charged with child neglect and abuse the
46:28
witnesses there was matter to them that
46:31
came up to the room just swarmed the
46:33
room tried to give them a given us
46:35
watched our articles about artificial
46:37
blood and you just can't let your child
46:41
take that blood and just putting this
46:43
heavy guilt trip on us the others were
46:45
relieved to find out that there was
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still time to get Jenny out of the
46:48
hospital they would they would come up
46:50
to me and say hey I've got a plan we can
46:52
get her we can hire a helicopter we can
46:54
sneak her out of this hospital just
46:55
unhook the tubes and we're gone I said
46:58
a minute you can't do that it's against
47:00
it's against the law be charged with
47:02
murder they said that's a chance you're
47:04
going to have to take and I just told
47:07
him look I just can't let my child die
47:09
in that way and elders were just so
47:11
upset they left in a huff they were mad
47:14
and one of the elders said on the way
47:16
out he looked me in the eye and said you
47:18
know what I hope your daughter gets
47:20
hepatitis from that blood and that was
47:23
just the straw that broke the camel's
47:24
back
47:25
I was just broken here my own people
47:28
God's organization turning against me
47:31
cursing me because I just wanted to see
47:33
my child live and so they left and we're
47:38
all alone even my own Parris didn't come
47:40
see us I think many times Jehovah's
47:43
Witnesses have really never thought the
47:45
blood thing through it's either right or
47:48
it's wrong if it's wrong the watchtower
47:51
society is guilty of causing the deaths
47:54
of thousands of people that's wrong it's
47:57
evil
47:58
I think the evil needs to be seen for
48:00
what it is it's this concept this
48:04
organizational concept that the
48:05
organization is everything you see mmm
48:09
Jehovah's Witnesses believe that this
48:11
organization is God's one channel that
48:15
all of God's direction for people on the
48:18
earth comes through this channel and the
48:22
men on the governing body believe it I
48:24
believed it that's the reason I was
48:26
party to some things in the past that
48:28
today I I feel shame to think that I
48:31
even had part in them if the governing
48:34
body of the watchtower society wholes
48:36
and enjoys the power then they must also
48:38
bear the responsibility the truth is
48:41
they don't nothing better illustrates
48:43
this than their false prophecy
48:45
concerning 1975 when their society
48:49
brought out the date 1975 I felt right
48:52
away that this is going to be the date
48:53
when the thing has to happen because
48:55
there was no other date beyond 1975 that
48:58
anybody could point to so I grabbed
49:02
right a hold of it is this it was a
49:04
thing to do and I put all my hopes in it
49:09
by the mid 60
49:10
the watchtower society had all but
49:12
guaranteed that the world would come to
49:14
an end in 1975 it was a prophecy that
49:17
would bring in a flood of new members
49:18
and the organization prospered but it
49:22
would have other effects on the ordinary
49:24
Jehovah's Witness we thought Armageddon
49:26
was coming in 1975 so I did not have a
49:31
career I didn't go to college because
49:33
the end was so close there was no need
49:35
the new world would be here I was a
49:38
senior in high school and the circuit
49:39
overseer which is a traveling minister
49:41
advised me that it's best for you to
49:43
quit school and go on the full-time
49:45
pioneer work because the world is going
49:47
to end in 1975 we felt so strongly about
49:50
the eminent approach of 1975 met this
49:53
whole system was coming to an end
49:55
we sold our home in Lower Michigan move
49:57
north build a Kingdom Hall and there we
50:00
intended to live out those few remaining
50:01
years have you saved just enough money
50:04
to go a few years beyond 1975 so it was
50:07
a great disappointment and distress when
50:10
this event that the watch star had
50:12
prophesied did not materialize I wanted
50:16
to get married I wanted to have children
50:18
but because the end was so close when
50:21
Fred and I got married we decided that
50:23
we would postpone having children so I
50:26
believe we sacrificed a lot within the
50:28
organization well when the end of the
50:31
world didn't come in 1975 and that
50:34
prophecy of the watchtower failed I
50:36
began to wonder if they were wrong on
50:38
this how many others are they wrong on
50:41
and once again watched our fact was
50:45
revealed as nothing more than contrived
50:47
fantasy Jehovah's Witnesses tried to get
50:51
an explanation but were unsuccessful
50:53
apparently for the governing body
50:56
nothing is so invisible as an unpleasant
50:59
truth today they are quick to deny their
51:02
prophecies for the end of the world we
51:05
do not nor have we attempted predict a
51:08
day or a time for it the history and
51:12
prophecies of the watchtower society are
51:14
easily revealed as fabrications and
51:17
distortions by simply reading the
51:20
material they've published from the
51:22
beginning
51:23
their greatest enemy is their own
51:25
literature which clearly shows the
51:27
man-made nature of their theology
51:28
Jehovah's Witness leaders have
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 2:02pm On Mar 16, 2022
51:30
continually covered up and rewritten
51:32
their ever-changing doctrines each time
51:35
presenting them as new light the one
51:38
thing the watchtower society cannot
51:39
tolerate in the organization is critical
51:41
thinking
51:42
that's why they forbid their followers
51:44
to read any material which might expose
51:46
their deceptions really shocked me to my
51:49
core was this and every other Jehovah's
51:51
Witness listening to this is that we
51:53
were so convinced that the leadership
51:56
the governing body would never tell one
51:58
lie they would always speak the truth no
52:01
matter what the truth was that is a
52:04
fabrication it is a lie they have lied
52:07
to us they have deceived us and we have
52:11
the documented evidence and because
52:13
we've spoken about it we were silenced
52:15
or threatened to be silenced and that's
52:17
what will happen to any Jehovah's
52:19
Witness listening to this program and he
52:21
knows it in his heart he knows it in his
52:23
heart I saw on the body that most of our
52:26
time was spent discussing the formation
52:30
of new rulings all designed to keep the
52:33
witnesses in and to keep bad people out
52:36
to act as that kind of offense and again
52:40
and again the decisions had absolutely
52:42
no basis in the Bible the witness who
52:45
breaks these executive Commandments is
52:47
subject to dispell Oh shipping the
52:48
watchtowers word for excommunication job
52:51
as witnesses practice removing those who
52:54
refuse to conform the right principles
52:57
from among themselves the Bible refers
53:00
to this and supports this practice as
53:03
preventing leaven or false thinking or
53:06
teaching from entering into the
53:07
congregation thereby maintaining its
53:10
purity or its cleanliness I went to a
53:13
Christian Church with my husband and
53:15
they dispell assured me for that they
53:18
believed that when you when you become
53:20
when you leave the organization you go
53:23
to the devil anyway but if you ever join
53:25
a church this is the ultimate sin they
53:28
believe that it's committing spiritual
53:30
fornication with the devil in my job
53:33
assignment at the Brooklyn Bethel
53:35
headquarters I would often
53:36
disfellowshipping x' which came in from
53:39
all the various congregations in the
53:40
united states and they literally
53:43
amounted to hundreds that would come in
53:45
every week it just shows the the
53:47
magnitude of the number of people that
53:49
are disfellowship by the organization
53:51
and of course careful records are kept
53:54
on all this including all the the
53:57
intimate details of what the individual
54:00
did what kind of offense it was mainly
54:02
there are sex offenses but there are
54:04
other offenses too like smoking perhaps
54:08
celebrating the holidays things like
54:11
that that people also got this
54:12
fellowship for if one actually becomes a
54:16
descender to the point of becoming
54:18
apostate then we follow the Bible
54:20
Council and we never invite him into our
54:23
house or was they agreeing to him if a
54:26
person resigns they are treated exactly
54:28
the same as a person who is
54:29
disfellowshipped when my husband and I
54:32
resigned by sending in a letter of
54:34
disassociation we were not merely
54:36
dropped from membership we were actually
54:39
shunned as being evil even today if a
54:42
Jehovah's Witness is caught associating
54:45
with us they are subject to being
54:46
discover ship themselves there is no
54:48
honorable way out of this religion
54:50
because of the way that they had treated
54:53
my family i disassociated myself from
54:56
the watchtower society never dreaming
54:59
that my children would refuse to have
55:02
anything to do with me in fact I have a
55:05
little two-year-old grandson that I've
55:07
never even seen my two children and my
55:10
five grandchildren are forbidden to see
55:12
me their grandmother because of the
55:15
watchtower what kind of organization
55:17
going under the heading of Christian
55:19
would disallow the children and
55:22
grandchildren to see their mother and
55:24
grandmother every person will recognize
55:27
the watchtowers practice of shunning as
55:29
a cold unloving evil thing the lives of
55:34
the disfellowshipped are filled with the
55:37
chill and loneliness the never-ending
55:39
sadness of separation from family
55:41
members
55:43
to find something to believe in to trust
55:46
him it's very hard since I believe that
55:50
they were the only channel to God I
55:53
couldn't bring myself to come to any
55:55
other Church to search for God in any
55:57
other way
55:58
normally Jehovah's Witnesses are taught
56:00
that when they leave the organization
56:02
there's nowhere to go but my wife and I
56:04
through Bible reading found out that we
56:06
could go to Christ and that's what we
56:08
have done after I'd ran across some
56:10
literature that exposed their false
56:12
prophecies and they're deceitful ways of
56:14
covering them up I then was able to
56:18
realize that they weren't God's
56:19
organization and I was able to search
56:21
for God and I found Jesus Christ and he
56:24
is my personal Savior and he's changed
56:27
my life just a hundred percent we just
56:31
prayed and gave our heart to Jesus and
56:34
it seemed like such it was such a simple
56:37
answer but that was that was what we've
56:40
been searching for all our life and it
56:41
wasn't an organization it was Jesus it
56:44
was a personal relationship with Jesus
56:46
that we didn't have before
56:50
we knew at that very moment that our
56:53
needs were written in the Lamb's Book of
56:55
Life it was it was a free gift eternal
56:58
life just given to us and all those
57:00
works that we did all the thousands of
57:02
hours that we that we put in for an
57:05
organization all the hard striving was
57:08
finished and just grace just grace saved
57:12
us through faith just a simple act of
57:14
obedience in prayer and asking the Lord
57:17
to take over just filled us with joy and
57:20
peace and joy that we never had never
57:22
had as a witness
57:29
barger and i spent many years working
57:31
for the watchtower society but it was
57:34
not till we left the organization that
57:36
we discovered the real meaning of God's
57:37
love our experience says to us that
57:40
there's another ministry out there for
57:42
Christians a ministry that will come
57:44
knocking on their door the Jehovah's
57:47
Witness who comes to your door is a
57:49
person who's lost his way if you're
57:52
prepared you can reach out and show him
57:56
what true Christian Fellowship is it's
57:59
been a long journey for us but we don't
58:01
think it's been wasted the remainder of
58:03
our years are going to be all the more
58:05
precious to us because now we have a
58:08
personal relationship with Jesus Christ
58:16
we finally came to realize that eternal
58:19
life is a free gift God's grace was all
58:24
we needed just grace
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:46pm On Mar 16, 2022
MindHacker9009:
51:30
continually covered up and rewritten
51:32
their ever-changing doctrines each time
51:35
presenting them as new light the one
51:38
thing the watchtower society cannot
51:39
tolerate in the organization is critical
51:41
thinking
51:42
that's why they forbid their followers
51:44
to read any material which might expose
51:46
their deceptions really shocked me to my
51:49
core was this and every other Jehovah's
51:51
Witness listening to this is that we
51:53
were so convinced that the leadership
51:56
the governing body would never tell one
51:58
lie they would always speak the truth no
52:01
matter what the truth was that is a
52:04
fabrication it is a lie they have lied
52:07
to us they have deceived us and we have
52:11
the documented evidence and because
52:13
we've spoken about it we were silenced
52:15
or threatened to be silenced and that's
52:17
what will happen to any Jehovah's
52:19
Witness listening to this program and he
52:21
knows it in his heart he knows it in his
52:23
heart I saw on the body that most of our
52:26
time was spent discussing the formation
52:30
of new rulings all designed to keep the
52:33
witnesses in and to keep bad people out
52:36
to act as that kind of offense and again
52:40
and again the decisions had absolutely
52:42
no basis in the Bible the witness who
52:45
breaks these executive Commandments is
52:47
subject to dispell Oh shipping the
52:48
watchtowers word for excommunication job
52:51
as witnesses practice removing those who
52:54
refuse to conform the right principles
52:57
from among themselves the Bible refers
53:00
to this and supports this practice as
53:03
preventing leaven or false thinking or
53:06
teaching from entering into the
53:07
congregation thereby maintaining its
53:10
purity or its cleanliness I went to a
53:13
Christian Church with my husband and
53:15
they dispell assured me for that they
53:18
believed that when you when you become
53:20
when you leave the organization you go
53:23
to the devil anyway but if you ever join
53:25
a church this is the ultimate sin they
53:28
believe that it's committing spiritual
53:30
fornication with the devil in my job
53:33
assignment at the Brooklyn Bethel
53:35
headquarters I would often
53:36
disfellowshipping x' which came in from
53:39
all the various congregations in the
53:40
united states and they literally
53:43
amounted to hundreds that would come in
53:45
every week it just shows the the
53:47
magnitude of the number of people that
53:49
are disfellowship by the organization
53:51
and of course careful records are kept
53:54
on all this including all the the
53:57
intimate details of what the individual
54:00
did what kind of offense it was mainly
54:02
there are sex offenses but there are
54:04
other offenses too like smoking perhaps
54:08
celebrating the holidays things like
54:11
that that people also got this
54:12
fellowship for if one actually becomes a
54:16
descender to the point of becoming
54:18
apostate then we follow the Bible
54:20
Council and we never invite him into our
54:23
house or was they agreeing to him if a
54:26
person resigns they are treated exactly
54:28
the same as a person who is
54:29
disfellowshipped when my husband and I
54:32
resigned by sending in a letter of
54:34
disassociation we were not merely
54:36
dropped from membership we were actually
54:39
shunned as being evil even today if a
54:42
Jehovah's Witness is caught associating
54:45
with us they are subject to being
54:46
discover ship themselves there is no
54:48
honorable way out of this religion
54:50
because of the way that they had treated
54:53
my family i disassociated myself from
54:56
the watchtower society never dreaming
54:59
that my children would refuse to have
55:02
anything to do with me in fact I have a
55:05
little two-year-old grandson that I've
55:07
never even seen my two children and my
55:10
five grandchildren are forbidden to see
55:12
me their grandmother because of the
55:15
watchtower what kind of organization
55:17
going under the heading of Christian
55:19
would disallow the children and
55:22
grandchildren to see their mother and
55:24
grandmother every person will recognize
55:27
the watchtowers practice of shunning as
55:29
a cold unloving evil thing the lives of
55:34
the disfellowshipped are filled with the
55:37
chill and loneliness the never-ending
55:39
sadness of separation from family
55:41
members
55:43
to find something to believe in to trust
55:46
him it's very hard since I believe that
55:50
they were the only channel to God I
55:53
couldn't bring myself to come to any
55:55
other Church to search for God in any
55:57
other way
55:58
normally Jehovah's Witnesses are taught
56:00
that when they leave the organization
56:02
there's nowhere to go but my wife and I
56:04
through Bible reading found out that we
56:06
could go to Christ and that's what we
56:08
have done after I'd ran across some
56:10
literature that exposed their false
56:12
prophecies and they're deceitful ways of
56:14
covering them up I then was able to
56:18
realize that they weren't God's
56:19
organization and I was able to search
56:21
for God and I found Jesus Christ and he
56:24
is my personal Savior and he's changed
56:27
my life just a hundred percent we just
56:31
prayed and gave our heart to Jesus and
56:34
it seemed like such it was such a simple
56:37
answer but that was that was what we've
56:40
been searching for all our life and it
56:41
wasn't an organization it was Jesus it
56:44
was a personal relationship with Jesus
56:46
that we didn't have before
56:50
we knew at that very moment that our
56:53
needs were written in the Lamb's Book of
56:55
Life it was it was a free gift eternal
56:58
life just given to us and all those
57:00
works that we did all the thousands of
57:02
hours that we that we put in for an
57:05
organization all the hard striving was
57:08
finished and just grace just grace saved
57:12
us through faith just a simple act of
57:14
obedience in prayer and asking the Lord
57:17
to take over just filled us with joy and
57:20
peace and joy that we never had never
57:22
had as a witness
57:29
barger and i spent many years working
57:31
for the watchtower society but it was
57:34
not till we left the organization that
57:36
we discovered the real meaning of God's
57:37
love our experience says to us that
57:40
there's another ministry out there for
57:42
Christians a ministry that will come
57:44
knocking on their door the Jehovah's
57:47
Witness who comes to your door is a
57:49
person who's lost his way if you're
57:52
prepared you can reach out and show him
57:56
what true Christian Fellowship is it's
57:59
been a long journey for us but we don't
58:01
think it's been wasted the remainder of
58:03
our years are going to be all the more
58:05
precious to us because now we have a
58:08
personal relationship with Jesus Christ
58:16
we finally came to realize that eternal
58:19
life is a free gift God's grace was all
58:24
we needed just grace
Is this how your god is providing Peace? cheesy
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op):
MaxInDHouse:
Is this how your god is providing Peace? cheesy
If you have peace you want be jumping from pillar to post trying to promote that your FAKE peace when you believe blackmagic can stop bullets, give correct football scores and that a character created by the Romans over 2000 years ago is coming back.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:28pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
If you have peace you want be jumping from pillar to post trying to promote that your FAKE peace when you believe blackmagic can stop bullets, give correct football scores and that a character created by the Romans over 2000 years ago is coming back.
PEACE is when people agreed to live and settle all their disparities without raising weapons to kill fathers, mothers and children due to unresolved disputes! wink
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 12:51pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
PEACE
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:00pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.
PEACE is when people agreed to live and settle all their disparities without raising weapons to kill fathers, mothers and children due to unresolved disputes!
smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 1:09pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
PEACE
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by kingxsamz(m): 2:12pm On Mar 17, 2022
Cus it's not real.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:33pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.
May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 2:46pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
PEACE
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.

If you have peace you want be jumping from pillar to post trying to promote that your FAKE peace when you believe blackmagic can stop bullets, give correct football scores and that a character created by the Romans over 2000 years ago is coming back.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
If you think you have PEACE then you don't know what you are practicing. Go back and read the full transcript of the video I posted above as you cannot use your data to watch it.

If you have peace you want be jumping from pillar to post trying to promote that your FAKE peace when you believe blackmagic can stop bullets, give correct football scores and that a character created by the Romans over 2000 years ago is coming back.
If everyone is peaceful we won't have issues with bullet neither will we be talking about football scores! smiley
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 4:00pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
If everyone is peaceful we won't have issues with bullet neither will we be talking about football scores! smiley
Then read the whole transcript I posted above to find out if the people have peace, who you are teaching your peace to, that truly believe in your teachings of peace.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:16pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
Then read the whole transcript I posted above to find out if the people have peace, who you are teaching your peace to, that truly believe in your teachings of peace.
Peace is a thing of the heart only friends of PEACE welcomes it not everyone we preach it to! wink
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 4:29pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Peace is a thing of the heart only friends of PEACE welcomes it not everyone we preach it to! wink
Your kind of peace has left the people in the transcript in pieces, so please keep that kind of your peace to yourself.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:38pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
Your kind of peace has left the people in the transcript in pieces, so please keep that kind of your peace to yourself.
PEACE is a quality of God's Holy Spirit not of imperfect humans so a friend of PEACE needs to continue nurturing this fine quality otherwise it will leave you! wink
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 5:30pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
PEACE
Your kind of peace is not the one GOD gives, your kind of peace has given the people in the transcript pieces and not peace, so please keep this your peace that gives pieces to yourself.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
Your kind of peace is not the one GOD gives, your kind of peace has given the people in the transcript pieces and not peace, so please keep this your peace that gives pieces to yourself.
Don't go and find work or learn a trade in time before you become completely hopeless, keep searching for magic to get rich quickly.
Lazy Nigerian youth! cheesy
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MindHacker9009(op): 6:30pm On Mar 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
[s]Don't go and find work or learn a trade in time before you become completely hopeless, keep searching for magic to get rich quickly.
Lazy Nigerian youth[/s]! cheesy
What work do you do than to brainwash those who are gullible with your FAKE peace to part with their hard earned income while they get pieces in return.

You are the one that believes that blackmagic can give correct football scores and can stop bullets. This thread is to show that blackmagic cannot make someone rich, but because you are a LAZY youth you believe it does.
Re: Why Can Black Magic Not Give Correct Football Scores by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:40pm On Mar 17, 2022
MindHacker9009:
What work do you do than to brainwash those who are gullible with your FAKE peace to part with their hard earned income while they get pieces in return.
Olè, Ọ̀lẹ, Atọ̀ọ́lé!
Thief, Lazy, Bed wetter!
You think JWs rely on tithes and offerings shey?
Well for your information all of us are hardworking men and women so nobody donates to enrich anyone in our midst! wink
MindHacker9009:
You are the one that believes that blackmagic can give correct football scores and can stop bullets. This thread is to show that blackmagic cannot make someone rich, but because you are a LAZY youth you believe it does.
OK, it's Maximus that's been all over Nairaland asking for black magic to solve problems shey? cheesy
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