Good evening everybody!
I started learning Python a couple of months back, and I have made good progress. I started learning because I have an idea for a web app for my department, and I would like to launch it for them before we graduate.
After I had finished the Python basics and started studying Flask, someone told me that to make a web app, I would need HTML, CSS and Javascript, so I went to brush up myself in HTML and CSS since I took courses on them a few years ago.
Now, I'm about to start Javascript, but I'm wondering if it is necessary since it is a scripting language, and Python can do same. Should I just continue studying Flask, or should I take a break and complete my Javascript course?

I do not think it is possible to run python in the browser at this time.

mrfizy:
I do not think it is possible to run python in the browser at this time.

very possible.

ThatWriterBoy:
Good evening everybody!
I started learning Python a couple of months back, and I have made good progress. I started learning because I have an idea for a web app for my department, and I would like to launch it for them before we graduate.
After I had finished the Python basics and started studying Flask, someone told me that to make a web app, I would need HTML, CSS and Javascript, so I went to brush up myself in HTML and CSS since I took courses on them a few years ago.
Now, I'm about to start Javascript, but I'm wondering if it is necessary since it is a scripting language, and Python can do same. Should I just continue studying Flask, or should I take a break and complete my Javascript course?

Python does it better.

February30:


very possible.

Not on the server but in manipulating the DOM?

February30:



Python does it better.

Oh. Ok. Thank you

ThatWriterBoy:


Oh. Ok. Thank you

don't listen to that dude mehn...if you want to build full stack web app you have to learn JavaScript

BlaqFaze:
don't listen to that dude mehn...if you want to build full stack web app you have to learn JavaScript

Now I'm confused �

From my own experience, I think if you learn python as a first language, you will have JavaScript.


But I believe you need too learn JavaScript for web design if you are using html css. I believe django will do if you use python.

ThatWriterBoy:

Oh. Ok. Thank you

but you need php for backend.

JavaScript still remains the language of the Web

Php was built for the sole purpose of the web

If u really want to focus on the web I'll recommend Php

There’s nothing you can do on the browser without JavaScript bro. The app you plan to build is what’s known as a full stack app. Python (flask) would be used to handle the app logic(backend) whereas the client(frontend) is JavaScripts domain.
How will you receive and validate input from users?
How do you plan to display dynamic data depending on user action? That kinda stuff can only be handled by JavaScript.

mrfizy:
I do not think it is possible to run python in the browser at this time.

Incorrect

airsaylongcome:


Incorrect

I guess I was technologically outdated.Python can run and manipulate the Dom just like JavaScript.
Thanks.
https://realpython.com/brython-python-in-browser/

TLDR:
- Stop learning Python for now; put all your effort into JS.
- You're new to programming; it's foolish to think you can become productive in two languages for now.
- More often than not, JS (front-end) jobs are easier to get;

Python, like PHP, Ruby, and C (not C++) has slowly gone into the "dark matter" part of programming. The Python community is not accommodating to greenhorns like the old days. See Scott Hanselman's article "Dark Matter Developer" for a general explanation why this is so.
You will need a good mentor or must have good study habits to grow into a decent Python programmer. Python is used to solve and manage varying computing challenges. However, the frontend also referred to as the presentation layer is not Python's forte.

Javascript, on the other hand, will get you quite far. The job title "full stack developer" has its origin in the JS ecosystem. A full stack developer can build and manage solutions in the front and backend. JS for the frontend, and NodeJS for the backend. Learning JS will allow you to work in the frontend, or the backend, or both as a full stack developer. The JS community is large, popular, and filled with young restless developers, so you will feel right at home. So, I encourage you to learn JS - starting with the frontend skills. Start with CodeAcademy and FreeCodeCamp, then move to frontendmasters.com or Max Scharwtz on Udemy.

Lots of misinformation on single thread asking a very simple question.

The Op didn't ask for fanboys to come defending their favourite languages.

@Op, Its not a waste to time learning JS. In fact in the course of your career you would learn many languages depending on your needs. Languages are just tools and the knowledge is always transferable. In fact, you would probably learn you 4th language in just a single day.

You need JS for the web. Modern web apps which you're trying to build are build with mostly Javascript, the days of templates and stuff are over.

Your web app still needs a backend server which is where your python skill(Flask, Django, Fastapi) comes in. You can build your server in any of those, and even with more languages than you can count, including Javascript, Java, C#, Ruby, Php.... it's a long list.
What you choose to build your server with is totally your choice, these battles about best or not is rubbish. Unless you're looking to learn market trending frameworks to get employed, then I propose you ignore the fanboyism and build with whatever you find most pleasant.

Anyway, go ahead and learn JS for your frontend application. Then decide on your backend and eventually get your app done!.

DrLevi:
Lots of misinformation on single thread asking a very simple question.

The Op didn't ask for fanboys to come defending their favourite languages.

@Op, Its not a waste to time learning JS. In fact in the course of your career you would learn many languages depending on your needs. Languages are just tools and the knowledge is always transferable. In fact, you would probably learn you 4th language in just a single day.

You need JS for the web. Modern web apps which you're trying to build are build with mostly Javascript, the days of templates and stuff are over.

Your web app still needs a backend server which is where your python skill(Flask, Django, Fastapi) comes in. You can build your server in any of those, and even with more languages than you can count, including Javascript, Java, C#, Ruby, Php.... it's a long list.
What you choose to build your server with is totally your choice, these battles about best or not is rubbish. Unless you're looking to learn market trending frameworks to get employed, then I propose you ignore the fanboyism and build with whatever you find most pleasant.

Anyway, go ahead and learn JS for your frontend application. Then decide on your backend and eventually get your app done!.

Thank you. This was very helpful.

ThatWriterBoy:
Good evening everybody!
I started learning Python a couple of months back, and I have made good progress. I started learning because I have an idea for a web app for my department, and I would like to launch it for them before we graduate.
After I had finished the Python basics and started studying Flask, someone told me that to make a web app, I would need HTML, CSS and Javascript, so I went to brush up myself in HTML and CSS since I took courses on them a few years ago.
Now, I'm about to start Javascript, but I'm wondering if it is necessary since it is a scripting language, and Python can do same. Should I just continue studying Flask, or should I take a break and complete my Javascript course?

Very necessary to make page interactive and for user experience. Don't joke with it.

If anyone tells you otherwise, don't listen to them because you will definitely find yourself learning JS at the end no matter how hard you try to skip it. You cannot escape not using JS in your web apps even if it's not advance.

I used to think JavaScript is not needed as long as you can code same frontend logic in the backend.

But trust me, JavaScript will save you lots of time and prevent users from stressing the server and database.

Although you don't have to learn it to advance stage except you want to use it as your stack.

If you just want to springle it around your web app, then Just learn it enough to be able to use it and master Dom manupulations.

Flask is cool but also I will advice you learn Django instead. It has lots of features with an already made admin panel.

No it is not. Depends on use

mrfizy:
I do not think it is possible to run python in the browser at this time.

You can use any programming language. All you need is a transpiller that will convert that language to JavaScript.

But it is advisable to learn javascript .

This is still the best response i've seen on this thread.

DrLevi:
Lots of misinformation on single thread asking a very simple question.

The Op didn't ask for fanboys to come defending their favourite languages.

@Op, Its not a waste to time learning JS. In fact in the course of your career you would learn many languages depending on your needs. Languages are just tools and the knowledge is always transferable. In fact, you would probably learn you 4th language in just a single day.

You need JS for the web. Modern web apps which you're trying to build are build with mostly Javascript, the days of templates and stuff are over.

Your web app still needs a backend server which is where your python skill(Flask, Django, Fastapi) comes in. You can build your server in any of those, and even with more languages than you can count, including Javascript, Java, C#, Ruby, Php.... it's a long list.
What you choose to build your server with is totally your choice, these battles about best or not is rubbish. Unless you're looking to learn market trending frameworks to get employed, then I propose you ignore the fanboyism and build with whatever you find most pleasant.

Anyway, go ahead and learn JS for your frontend application. Then decide on your backend and eventually get your app done!.

February30:



but you need php for backend.


JavaScript still remains the language of the Web

You're just a confused fellow

ThatWriterBoy:
Good evening everybody!
I started learning Python a couple of months back, and I have made good progress. I started learning because I have an idea for a web app for my department, and I would like to launch it for them before we graduate.
After I had finished the Python basics and started studying Flask, someone told me that to make a web app, I would need HTML, CSS and Javascript, so I went to brush up myself in HTML and CSS since I took courses on them a few years ago.
Now, I'm about to start Javascript, but I'm wondering if it is necessary since it is a scripting language, and Python can do same. Should I just continue studying Flask, or should I take a break and complete my Javascript course?

You can run python in your browser using Brython. But then learning JavaScript won't take you time since it's not your first programming language.

if you want to be a full stack developer you need javascript for the frontend ....javascript has made it easy with frameworks like react..etc...you can use python for the backend(django or flask)...i think django is in demand more....nobody will employ u to make a frontend website design with python...

Luzebox:
if you want to be a full stack developer you need javascript for the frontend ....javascript has made it easy with frameworks like react..etc...you can use python for the backend(django or flask)...i think django is in demand more....nobody will employ u to make a frontend website design with python...

If you are serious about being a full stack developer, then you cannot escape javascript, you can even run both frontend and backend with javascript these days.