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Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by HeavenVGate: 11:39am On Apr 04, 2022
adenigga:
Source: https:///NIN-SIM-Linkage-FG-Directs-Telcos-To-Bar-Outgoing-Calls-On-Unlinked-Lines
Good move. I wonder what excuse one could have to have yet to link his/her link till now. Both outgoing and incoming calls should be blocked
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by GreyLaw(m): 11:45am On Apr 04, 2022
Gireiboy:
How do you suggest we get it right?
First thing is that the government isn't telling the truth. Thr first and most important step is to reveal the identity of those sponsoring Boko Haram (bandits, Fulani herdsmen are all BH) and bring them to justice. This shockingly includes governors, senators, etc. Bring them and their collaborators in the military to justice and let fear grip all of them.

After this we can talk. They know what to do but don't want to do it. The common man believes in Nigeria than those thieving murderous politicians. The president knows to the very last dot, all the people involved in this; the DSD gives him secret updates that he alone has access to.

They are not serious. When they are serious we will know.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by okunwaye(m): 11:47am On Apr 04, 2022
LeoDeKing:
I thought the deadline for this NIN-SIM linkage thingy has elapsed. huh

What is this I'm reading here again?

So Nigerians have not finished linking their SIM with their NIN all these while? What does it even take to get this done? Is it not just a text message? That's just what I did, or is there something else in addition? huh
All this one na dust,i done submit nin for MTN reach 10 times,them still they disturb me.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Electrochemistry(m): 11:48am On Apr 04, 2022
inoki247:
lol unless say na olodo dey kidnap u can easily cross to Neighboring country nd buy dere sim wen u enta here the sim will roam him sef nd u recharge it u might be charged heavily buh na u know wetin u wan use am du.....


So the Nin linkage will jus mak people to use anoda Avenue e no fit stop anything....


Naturally ordinary sim registration is enough to get a culprit buh if sim registration no work I don't think Nin gt any role to play people will use anoda method....


And u people don forget say every kidnapped victim gt phone so dey can use dere phone number directly to contact derr family.....


Nin won't solve 1 percent of kidnapping so u guys should rest....
I just wonder why this is so hard for Pantami to understand.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by moodyguy: 12:40pm On Apr 04, 2022
SenecaTheYonger:
Thanks. I just downloaded the app and it shows my sim has been linked long ago
uwc
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Gireiboy(m): 12:48pm On Apr 04, 2022
GreyLaw:
First thing is that the government isn't telling the truth. Thr first and most important step is to reveal the identity of those sponsoring Boko Haram (bandits, Fulani herdsmen are all BH) and bring them to justice. This shockingly includes governors, senators, etc. Bring them and their collaborators in the military to justice and let fear grip all of them.

After this we can talk. They know what to do but don't want to do it. The common man believes in Nigeria than those thieving murderous politicians. The president knows to the very last dot, all the people involved in this; the DSD gives him secret updates that he alone has access to.

They are not serious. When they are serious we will know.
Every sensible Nigerian knows these now, bro.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Caseywilliams(m): 1:10pm On Apr 04, 2022
adenigga:
Source: https:///NIN-SIM-Linkage-FG-Directs-Telcos-To-Bar-Outgoing-Calls-On-Unlinked-Lines
They never bar notorious bandits calls requesting for ransom finish
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Kazeem47(m): 1:47pm On Apr 04, 2022
Quodseverismete:
This na 100million questions

My neighbor a retired Director of DSS was kidnapped on December 27th 2021. What surprised me was a ransom of ten million naira was paid into an account number that doesn't have BVN.and I asked what happened to deadline given for Bvn linkage, then I know say Nigeria na scam
just imagine.naija na scam o.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Kazeem47(m): 2:13pm On Apr 04, 2022
Astoria:
Pantami isn't targeting bandits, he's targeting Nigerians. Bandits/Kidnappers ordinarily put calls through to victims families via victim's phone to avoid traces, it is an open secret. What's most obtainable in Nigeria is phone and not sim tracking. Reason why the Nigerian security services can easy track a stolen/compromised phone by the amount of sim cards placed in the sim tray but not vice-versa, i.e. the amount of phones a sim card has been inserted on. Even your mobile service provider will always ask you the make and type of device you use whenever you complain of a service short coming because they damn don't know!

Long story cut short: Glo doesn't know the device your sim card is placed on but Samsung, iPhone and any other phone that is smart knows you are using a Glo sim. While some will outrightly display your details (phone number) on-screen, others are more discreet. Pantami is taking the bull by the tail.
this country na was o.I thought the police and DSS have device for tracking phones.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Bigchristo: 2:34pm On Apr 04, 2022
adenigga:
Source: https:///NIN-SIM-Linkage-FG-Directs-Telcos-To-Bar-Outgoing-Calls-On-Unlinked-Lines
Failed government always find an excuse to blame others, how is NIN linkage of sim can help track down kidnappings? Don’t go and give order to the whole security agencies to do joint operation to crack down on bandits via air ground assault even involves the NAVY , you didn’t need NIN linkage to find IPOB and ESN, make we stop to Dey deceive ourselves even if the whole Nigerians decided to link their sim kidnapping and banditry will still be going on
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by MASCOTECH: 2:44pm On Apr 04, 2022
Do they know that the kidnappers use their victims's lines to ask for ransom?.
That defeats the purpose of tracking down the terrorists with their SIM/NIN
adenigga:
Source: https:///NIN-SIM-Linkage-FG-Directs-Telcos-To-Bar-Outgoing-Calls-On-Unlinked-Lines
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Heavensent01(m): 3:00pm On Apr 04, 2022
LeoDeKing:
I thought the deadline for this NIN-SIM linkage thingy has elapsed. huh

What is this I'm reading here again?

So Nigerians have not finished linking their SIM with their NIN all these while? What does it even take to get this done? Is it not just a text message? That's just what I did, or is there something else in addition? huh
banning outgoing call, what's the fate of those that will be kidnapped in North, how are their people going to reach bandit or bandit don linked it?


jumping from one post to another post to write rubbish with confidence
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Heavensent01(m): 3:02pm On Apr 04, 2022
so no new sim after the banning or the people that will be buying phone afresh won't use sim, dumb minister of dislocation and his clown in chief




useless Terrorist
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by ChronicGp(m): 3:34pm On Apr 04, 2022
Who cares!
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by bigiyaro(m): 3:35pm On Apr 04, 2022
kingscare1:
It's a good thing in disguise.
That would stop using untraceable or unlinked or unrecognized numbers to do heinous crimes. To be frank with you, forget government incompetency, it's for a stronger national security and to stop crime.

When one does crime with a linked line, they security agency will catch the person through the recognised lines, if you escape, the catch your frequent calls or next of kin. Park well jare, calls between me n my boss in the space of 7 hours exceeds all calls I make to my family members in a month, my 2 year old daughter is my next of kin. Your thinking no follow..

For me, it's good.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by NaughtyBrainiac: 5:12pm On Apr 04, 2022
Theunbothered:
Okay assuming they link it how will the police know that particular individual is a criminal and find them?

NaughtyBrainiac it has been over two hours and you have not answered my question
Just seeing this.

When there is a crime case, phone numbers involved can be traced to check the NIN linked to them. There are several crimes that people commit and the knowledge that they could be identified through NIN would make a certain percentage not even perpetrate such crime in the first place
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by LilleG(m): 5:57pm On Apr 04, 2022
I hope they won't block mine grin
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Theunbothered: 6:24pm On Apr 04, 2022
NaughtyBrainiac:
Just seeing this.

When there is a crime case, phone numbers involved can be traced to check the NIN linked to them. There are several crimes that people commit and the knowledge that they could be identified through NIN would make a certain percentage not even perpetrate such crime in the first place
But the police can already track phone calls and locations without NIN in cooperation with the network providers, that is how they found Uduak the organ harvester.

That aside if you get kidnapped and the kidnapper uses your device to call, how will the police know the NIN of the kidnapper? Will the kidnapper tell everyone he sees his NIN?

Even in other cases how will they know someone has committed a crime using NIN unless they already had a suspect?

Do you think implementing these measures without improving the economy will have a practical effect on the crime rate?
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Aystarz: 6:54pm On Apr 04, 2022
LilleG:
I hope they won't block mine grin
I don't think they've blocked anyone. It's all bark and no bite.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by NaughtyBrainiac: 7:07pm On Apr 04, 2022
Theunbothered:
But the police can already track phone calls and locations without NIN in cooperation with the network providers, that is how they found Uduak the organ harvester.

That aside if you get kidnapped and the kidnapper uses your device to call, how will the police know the NIN of the kidnapper? Will the kidnapper tell everyone he sees his NIN?

Even in other cases how will they know someone has committed a crime using NIN unless they already had a suspect?

Do you think implementing these measures without improving the economy will have a practical effect on the crime rate?
Please note that there are several other crimes apart from Kidnapping. There are some people that just sit in their rooms, make calls and send text messages to unsuspecting Bank customers just to wipe their accounts.

People use phone numbers for crime and abandon the numbers after committing crime. People like that can now be identified using NIN.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Theunbothered: 7:38pm On Apr 04, 2022
NaughtyBrainiac:
Please note that there are several other crimes apart from Kidnapping. There are some people that just sit in their rooms, make calls and send text messages to unsuspecting Bank customers just to wipe their accounts.
This is a myth, I have never heard of anyone losing money from a simple phone call unless they told the scammers their bank details.

In any case you already have caller ID which displays information on these people.

Also shouldn't BVN have stopped all this from happening?

People use phone numbers for crime and abandon the numbers after committing crime. People like that can now be identified using NIN.
Crimes such as?

If you already have the physical phone or number why do they need NIN to track the person?
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by NaughtyBrainiac: 8:02pm On Apr 04, 2022
Theunbothered:
This is a myth, I have never heard of anyone losing money from a simple phone call unless they told the scammers their bank details.

In any case you already have caller ID which displays information on these people.

Also shouldn't BVN have stopped all this from happening?



Crimes such as?

If you already have the physical phone or number why do they need NIN to track the person?
That's the essence of the word "unsuspecting". They definitely divulge their card details. Whether they divulged or not. The perpetrators are still Criminals.

Caller ID doesn't display accurate info. I can manipulate caller ID to display whatever I want it to display. That's a discussion for another day.

BVN cannot stop Criminals from calling and defrauding unsuspecting Bank customers.

NIN can easily be used to declare someone wanted and also to track further in cases where the criminal has abandoned the SIM.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by youngking89(m): 8:25pm On Apr 04, 2022
Na only u go protest oo
Mysticwebb:
Na heavy protest una wan instigate so ooo.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Bbbw: 8:51pm On Apr 04, 2022
Jokers
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Gravity56: 8:54pm On Apr 04, 2022
Until they make registration free I won't go for NIN
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Theunbothered: 9:29pm On Apr 04, 2022
NaughtyBrainiac:
That's the essence of the word "unsuspecting". They definitely divulge their card details. Whether they divulged or not. The perpetrators are still Criminals.

Caller ID doesn't display accurate info. I can manipulate caller ID to display whatever I want it to display. That's a discussion for another day.
But more criminals have been caught using caller ID than NIN, which has yet to catch one criminal or victim.

BVN cannot stop Criminals from calling and defrauding unsuspecting Bank customers.
BVN was meant to track stolen funds and prevent users with multiple accounts from laundering money.

By the way how many fraudulent calls has the NIN Sim linkage prevented?

NIN can easily be used to declare someone wanted and also to track further in cases where the criminal has abandoned the SIM
You don't decleare unknown persons wanted, if you are declaring someone wanted you must have have basic information like their pictures, name, work or family background already linking them with the crime.

You can have everyone's data but if you don't have clear evidence linking people to crimes then it is a worthless endeavour.

Concerning the bolded you already are saying in plain English that you have already matched a crime to a specific suspect. Also how often do you see criminals abandon their SIMS at a crime scene? How would you know which sims are active or not unless you already had a suspect?

Altogether this makes me wonder, what new information does the NIN provide that those investigating don't already have?
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Aystarz:
Gravity56:
Until they make registration free I won't go for NIN
Just imagine the guts of these yeye ministers! You bring out a policy,; staff under the NIMC turn it into an exploitation exercise, the citizens complain, and your ministry does absolutely nothing about it in over a year! Despite glaring evidences against these thieves, not one staff was arrested and thrown in jail.
Yet, you have the temerity to accuse poor Nigerians of not parting with their 5k for a policy that adds nothing tangible to their lives. As I write, there are a good number who went through the stress, lost their money to the fraud called NIMC , tried linking their lines as instructed, but whose NIN still hasn't been verified or linked, simply because the bloody NIMC doesn't do its bloody job!

Make dem sha try block those ones' lines and see crazy. Shebi na lawsuits dem dey find?? Dem go get am laslas!

In saner climes, Pantami and the DG of NIMC would have been sacked for dereliction of duty and for putting Nigerians under untold hardship. But well, this is Nigeria, where anything goes - even daylight exploitation!

Brand new day, why dem never still block am? Fools running the nation exactly like fools do. God punish dem all..
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by Arielle: 8:17am On Apr 05, 2022
Likeandshare:
Like if you think Nigeria government are ignorant,share if you think they are taking this step for the betterment of Nigeria citizens.
Whoever clicked share, may your fingers bend.
Re: NIN-SIM Linkage: FG Directs Telcos To Bar Outgoing Calls On Unlinked Lines by NaughtyBrainiac: 8:48am On Apr 05, 2022
Theunbothered:
But more criminals have been caught using caller ID than NIN, which has yet to catch one criminal or victim.



BVN was meant to track stolen funds and prevent users with multiple accounts from laundering money.

By the way how many fraudulent calls has the NIN Sim linkage prevented?



You don't decleare unknown persons wanted, if you are declaring someone wanted you must have have basic information like their pictures, name, work or family background already linking them with the crime.

You can have everyone's data but if you don't have clear evidence linking people to crimes then it is a worthless endeavour.

Concerning the bolded you already are saying in plain English that you have already matched a crime to a specific suspect. Also how often do you see criminals abandon their SIMS at a crime scene? How would you know which sims are active or not unless you already had a suspect?

Altogether this makes me wonder, what new information does the NIN provide that those investigating don't already have?
Criminals are not caught using caller ID. Caller ID is even far from being a solid intelligence resource. Like I said earlier, caller ID can be manipulated to show whatever one wants it to show.

You mentioned that NIN has not caught criminals, why would it catch criminals when lines without NIN have been working effectively. Will a criminal rush to link NIN to a SIM he uses for crime when he knows that the deadline would eventually be extended?

Furthermore, when SIMs without NIN stop working, most criminals would not use SIMs that have their NIN linked for criminal activities. They will begin to find alternatives.

Crime cannot be completely eradicated but putting in place strategies that make crime very difficult is a very stupendous step towards crime reduction.

As to declaring someone wanted, there are several ways law enforcement go about it and there are several steps.

You seem to be looking at crime from just one angle. You mentioned that how often do criminals abandon their SIM at a crime scene. That's not what I meant when I said if a criminal abandons his SIM. You mentioned that a criminal can be tracked with his phone or SIM and I replied that with NIN, a criminal doesn't have to be with his SIM before getting his details.

Overall, We don't have a database in Nigeria and NIN will go a long way in helping us achieve a reasonable fit.
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