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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 9:59am On Apr 08, 2022
Minemrys:
They should do a recast now and reshoot Ezra scenes with the actor. The guy is going through psychological issues, reshoots will be needed soon. What if he isn't around then?
They can't start reshooting Ezra's scenes...the movie is almost done so just use a double/lookalike and complete it first and then recast for future projects
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:01am On Apr 08, 2022
Minemrys:
They don't need to reshoot the whole film. Just reshoot the actor in Ezra Miller scenes. It's been done before. You just need a green screen. Snyder did it in army of the dead.
There's always reshoots for films, that's why test screenings are held in the first place. The primary shooting is done but the film isn't completed.
You can't reshoot every scene Ezra appears in by CGI, building sets require money, transportation and logistics require money, tax files and City permits all take time..Bypassing all these by using CGI kills the film's practical effects.
Again, film's don't do reshoots, when everything's done, the scenes that need to be cut are cut in Post production...
A director shoots everything that should be shot during filming, then reshoots happen if there are additional scenes to be added maybe due to different developments, reshoots mainly happen in CBM's too...
Flash wrapped since last year, reshoots are simply not possible...
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:06am On Apr 08, 2022
Xavier5:
Na una wey take the guy serious. Shebi, he was one of the People screaming Dune was going to bomb. But how far? That same movie went on to perform really well in streaming and BO (going with covid-19 and hybrid release standard). The fvcking film even had the highest Oscar wins this year.

I don't take people that predict doom for a movie before it's release seriously. Dude you're not a fvcking psychic, so why should I take your prophecy of doom serious. Such people are just looking for attention, just like some people that are screaming all over social media that the Flash is going to bomb.

#Xavier
#DCian
Dune didn't do well theatrically..
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Xavier5(m): 10:19am On Apr 08, 2022
AnfieldFan:
Dune didn't do well theatrically..
A movie that grossed over $400M despite covid-19 and hybrid HBO MAX release didn't do well commercially?

Going with covid-19 and HBO MAX hybrid release, Dune was a commercial success. Even the industry analyst acknowledge that. So I don't get what you're saying.

Below are it's streaming and PVOD stats, just for addition.


#Xavier
#DCian

Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:22am On Apr 08, 2022
Xavier5:
A movie that grossed over $400M despite covid-19 and hybrid HBO MAX release didn't do well commercially?

Going with covid-19 and HBO MAX hybrid release, Dune was a commercial success. Even the industry analyst acknowledge that. So I don't get what you're saying.

Below are it's streaming and PVOD stats, just for addition.


#Xavier
#DCian
Theatrically, not streaming. Better still, let me change it to ; Dune wasn't a success theatrically....
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:27am On Apr 08, 2022
Xavier5:
A movie that grossed over $400M despite covid-19 and hybrid HBO MAX release didn't do well commercially?

Going with covid-19 and HBO MAX hybrid release, Dune was a commercial success. Even the industry analyst acknowledge that. So I don't get what you're saying.

Below are it's streaming and PVOD stats, just for addition.


#Xavier
#DCian
And just to add something, 3.9 million in it's first 30 days is not outstanding...It would be decent, but not outstanding..
But I get your point...
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Xavier5(m): 10:48am On Apr 08, 2022
AnfieldFan:
Theatrically, not streaming. Better still, let me change it to ; Dune wasn't a success theatrically....
Some Dune industry analyst view below.

Before you make conclusions, consider covid-19 and HBO MAX factors first. How many films under that Circumstances will gross high.

They're a lot of analysis you have to consider before making conclusions about a movie performance. If Dune was exclusively released in theaters that would have been an entirely different thing but Dune was released both in theaters and on HBO MAX. Everybody knows that it's HBO MAX hybrid release will definitely affect it's BO just like GvK, MK, Conjuring 3, Matrix 4 and TSS. Not to talk of the piracy that such will ensure. It's very easy to pirate a streaming film thanks to screen recording technology.

So it's very comical when someone claims that with all this factors, Dune with a $400.7M gross is a failure. Even industry analyst don't think so, not after they've analyse the factors involve.

They're so many things you must put into consideration before making conclusions on the BO performance of a movie. Just dropping conclusions without considering the factors, to me isn't smart.

If you still think Dune is a theatrical failure, then so be it but always have it at the back of your mind that the Industry Analyst don't share that view and this guys understand the PRINCIPLES THAT GOVERNS THE SYSTEM

#Xavier
#DCian

Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys(op): 10:50am On Apr 08, 2022
AnfieldFan:
You can't reshoot every scene Ezra appears in by CGI, building sets require money, transportation and logistics require money, tax files and City permits all take time..Bypassing all these by using CGI kills the film's practical effects.
Again, film's don't do reshoots, when everything's done, the scenes that need to be cut are cut in Post production...
A director shoots everything that should be shot during filming, then reshoots happen if there are additional scenes to be added maybe due to different developments, reshoots mainly happen in CBM's too...
Flash wrapped since last year, reshoots are simply not possible...
I am not talking about CGI. Please do your findings well on actors reshooting another actor's scene. They do it a lot. A actor doesn't need to be present, you don't need to computer generate them, it's like cutting and pasting in Photoshop. They shoot the scene identically then fix the actor in the original scene. They did this in peace maker and army of the dead. If you have seen a lot of YouTube videos, you will know how possible it is.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys(op): 10:53am On Apr 08, 2022
pu7pl3:
They can't start reshooting Ezra's scenes...the movie is almost done so just use a double/lookalike and complete it first and then recast for future projects
It's actually possible to reshoot all of his scenes. Even without rebuilding the sets or having all actors present. Am surprised you all are seeing it strange or impossible when in fact Hollywood has done it for some time now.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Xavier5(m): 10:53am On Apr 08, 2022
AnfieldFan:
And just to add something, 3.9 million in it's first 30 days is not outstanding...It would be decent, but not outstanding..
But I get your point...
It's not outstanding but ZSJL with a 3.7M household views after 37 to 39 days of it's release on HBO MAX is applaudable. Great

Note, emphasis is on HBO MAX, so don't go about bringing up streaming stats from other platform because even Dune did well on other streaming and PVOD platforms as well. So stay on track, don't digress from the argument.

Also don't forget, Dune by march had 5.3M household views on HBO MAX despite it's exploits on other streaming and PVOD platforms.

#Xavier
#DCian
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:55am On Apr 08, 2022
Xavier5:
Some Dune industry analyst view below.

Before you make conclusions, consider covid-19 and HBO MAX factors first. How many films under that Circumstances will gross high.

They're a lot of analysis you have to consider before making conclusions about a movie performance. If Dune was exclusively released in theaters that would have been an entirely different thing but Dune was released both in theaters and on HBO MAX. Everybody knows that it's HBO MAX hybrid release will definitely affect it's BO just like GvK, MK, Conjuring 3, Matrix 4 and TSS. Not to talk of the piracy that such will ensure. It's very easy to pirate a streaming film thanks to screen recording technology.

So it's very comical when someone claims that with all this factors, Dune with a $400.7M gross is a failure. Even industry analyst don't think so, not after they've analyse the factors involve.

They're so many things you must put into consideration before making conclusions on the BO performance of a movie. Just dropping conclusions without considering the factors, to me isn't smart.

If you still think Dune is a theatrical failure, then so be it but always have it at the back of your mind that the Industry Analyst don't share that view and this guys understand the PRINCIPLES THAT GOVERNS THE SYSTEM

#Xavier
I'm not slating it, it's hybrid release obviously hurt it's B.O that's why I'm not saying it flopped or whatever...I'm just saying theatrical release wise, it wasn't a success...Kong Vs Zilla had the same circumstances and came out tops.. Obviously, Kong had a franchise backing it but I think I've passed my point...
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 10:59am On Apr 08, 2022
Xavier5:
It's not outstanding but ZSJL with a 3.7M household views after 37 to 39 days of it's release on HBO MAX is applaudable. Great

Note, emphasis is on HBO MAX, so don't go about bringing up streaming stats from other platform because even Dune did well on other streaming and PVOD platforms as well. So stay on track, don't digress from the argument.

Also don't forget, Dune by march had 5.3M household views on HBO MAX despite it's exploits on other streaming and PVOD platforms.

#Xavier
#DCian
You're the one calling ZSJL applaudable, it's been stated here many times that the streaming numbers didn't match the hype...

I'm not deviating, many movies performed better than Dune on PVOD...
Dune's numbers are decent...
You're trying to overstate them..
I'm not really trying to argue, it's tiring, so you don't need to tell me not to deviate. I no kukuma get strength....
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by AnfieldFan: 11:06am On Apr 08, 2022
Minemrys:
I am not talking about CGI. Please do your findings well on actors reshooting another actor's scene. They do it a lot. A actor doesn't need to be present, you don't need to computer generate them, it's like cutting and pasting in Photoshop. They shoot the scene identically then fix the actor in the original scene. They did this in peace maker and army of the dead. If you have seen a lot of YouTube videos, you will know how possible it is.
It's a whole movie, actors interact with their environment and their fellow actors... Replicating the things done by Ezra regarding his interaction with his co-stars and environment n the movie without creating the same environment would need more than copy and pasting... Doing what you're asking would require WB to cough out another 150-200 mill to do...Then go through the whole Post production process again... It's sunken cost, not feasible and not fiscally intelligent...Since the Flash is a multiverse movie, keep him away from promotion, recast him after, take the B.O hit and move on from there....
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Xavier5(m): 11:09am On Apr 08, 2022
AnfieldFan:
I'm not slating it, it's hybrid release obviously hurt it's B.O that's why I'm not saying it flopped or whatever...I'm just saying theatrical release wise, it wasn't a success...Kong Vs Zilla had the same circumstances and came out tops.. Obviously, Kong had a franchise backing it but I think I've passed my point...
Well, you're right because the movie didn't break even ( which is between $412.5M to $495M going with 2.5x to 3x multiplier of it's $165M budget). If it had grossed even, it would have been a success albeit a medium grosser.

But anyway, commercially in general, it was a success.

#Xavier
#DCian
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 12:35pm On Apr 08, 2022
Minemrys:
I am not talking about CGI. Please do your findings well on actors reshooting another actor's scene. They do it a lot. A actor doesn't need to be present, you don't need to computer generate them, it's like cutting and pasting in Photoshop. They shoot the scene identically then fix the actor in the original scene. They did this in peace maker and army of the dead. If you have seen a lot of YouTube videos, you will know how possible it is.
Dude what you're failing to understand and still argue is that this is a different scenario.
The Flash isn't a normal movie with the likes you comparing it to. Peacemaker did it yes, but Peacemaker fvvking didn't have CGI heavy scenes or even several million dollars set and production.

Also, the movie is almost wrapped up, not like it's still under principal photography. The tyoebif reshoots you talking about takes time, energy and serious money. Doing those will push up the budget with nothing less than $50-75mn.

The Batman that we were surprised to see that it's total budget ended up at $200mn was mainly because of production delays, stops and start due to Covid. Delays pushed the budget to an additional $100mn.
Flash is said to have over 2500 VFX shots. If Ezra has like 500 shots in that film, do you know the amount it will cost for reshoots. Also you can't vuse CGI for all scenes. Some needs practical sets.

Recasting after the movie is the best bet.
Also I think Ezra will be exempted from promotion, press tours and the likes just as WB sidelined him for Fantastic Beasts.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 12:51pm On Apr 08, 2022
Update.....

Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nickshrapnel: 6:11pm On Apr 08, 2022
Minemrys:
It's actually possible to reshoot all of his scenes. Even without rebuilding the sets or having all actors present. Am surprised you all are seeing it strange or impossible when in fact Hollywood has done it for some time now.
You keep bringing up AoTD as an example of a movie that was reshot, but you forgot that the role that was reshot was that of a supporting character that appeared in less than 50% of the movie and even at that, it cost a few million dollars to do it. Ezra is a main cast in a CGI intensive movie, reshoot will be very expensive.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 12:37pm On Apr 09, 2022
Man HBOMax is going all out and bringing absolute joy.


Hope this people remember earlier series. undecided embarassed

Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by SMUAG(m): 3:39pm On Apr 09, 2022
abduleez1:
Man HBOMax is going all out and bringing absolute joy.


Hope this people remember earlier series. undecided embarassed
Are they introducing Aqualad in the upcoming Aquaman movie?
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Barrywhyte1(m): 5:16pm On Apr 09, 2022
abduleez1:
Man HBOMax is going all out and bringing absolute joy.


Hope this people remember earlier series. undecided embarassed
This is more of a drama series than action tho
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 5:52pm On Apr 09, 2022
Barrywhyte1:
This is more of a drama series than action tho
What's the difference. Does being a drama lessens it's quality? undecided


I'm more concerned about its connection to the DCEU and care less for genre. I want different genre not the same old same old action. That's why Titans is shït. angry
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 5:52pm On Apr 09, 2022
SMUAG:
Are they introducing Aqualad in the upcoming Aquaman movie?
Don't know man. Fingers crossed.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by nani667: 9:27am On Apr 10, 2022
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by samistry(m): 5:33pm On Apr 10, 2022
Why did you leave out the best part of this report? grin
abduleez1:
Man HBOMax is going all out and bringing absolute joy.


Hope this people remember earlier series. undecided embarassed
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 6:24pm On Apr 10, 2022
samistry:
Why did you leave out the best part of this report? grin
Lol, and what is that PART I left out? grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 6:32pm On Apr 10, 2022
Just went through some DC content that's been lying idle on my watchlist....

Titans S3

This shït doesn't improve and seems to be getting even worse. Shitty story and bland acting. This show is getting tiring and I hope they end it by season 4 when other shows must have debuted. Only good thing going for it is the great costumes. Finally finished it. undecided 5/10 rating.

Stargirl S2
3 episodes in so far and it's pretty decent. Way better than Titans. 6/10 overall presently.

Harley Quinn S2
First 4 episodes hasn't really taken off as I expected. Seems not to be at the level of the first season. Decent enough 6/10.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by samistry(m): 6:50pm On Apr 10, 2022
The Lbgtq Community will be represented in the dceu
abduleez1:
Lol, and what is that PART I left out? grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 7:05pm On Apr 10, 2022
samistry:
The Lbgtq Community will be represented in the dceu
Yep. I know that's what you really want to say. But still being coy with it. Yes. Aqualad is gay. And anyone familiar with the character knows that already, I don't need to spell that.

The DCEU already has LGBT characters in Harley Quinn. grin
There's also a trans character in one of the upcoming movies. Blue Beetle I think. grin grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 7:53pm On Apr 10, 2022
Abduleez1 done use vex go binge grin grin grin grin
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 7:59pm On Apr 10, 2022
pu7pl3:
Abdulee..z1 done use vex go binge grin grin grin grin
Lol, why I no go vex.
The way all of Una dey laff me last week dey use me do case study touch my soul. grin
Even u my bro say I dey hopeless cry cry embarassed

I say never again.
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by abduleez1(m): 11:11pm On Apr 10, 2022
Zack updates....

Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by pu7pl3(m): 11:49pm On Apr 10, 2022
abduleez1:
Lol, why I no go vex.
The way all of Una dey laff me last week dey use me do case study touch my soul. grin
Even u my bro say I dey hopeless cry cry embarassed

I say never again.
Hehehehehe grin grin grin

Nice one bro...now you have motivated me, next weekend I'll binge too
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