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Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by PastorOluT(m): 8:05pm On Apr 11, 2022
Uprightness100:
GOD Hates Divorce. And as people of GOD, we don't do what our Father hates. That does not mean you should remain in silence if your life is threatened.

If your life is threatened in your home, dont keep quiet. get Godly counsel, get out of the place.

Mathew 5:31-32

31 AMP:It has also been said, Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.

32 AMP:But I tell you, Whoever dismisses and repudiates and divorces his wife, except on the grounds of unfaithfulness (sexual immorality), causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a woman who has been divorced commits adultery.

1Corinthians 7:10-11

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AMP:But to the married people I give charge—not I but the Lord—that the wife is not to separate from her husband.

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AMP:But if she does [separate from and divorce him], let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband. And [I charge] the husband [also] that he should not put away or divorce his wife.



God hates divorce but it is an option as seen here, there are conditions that permits separation but the person should be willing to stay single or return back to the spouse.

NB We should stop keeping people in bondage with religious dogmatism. Separation is an option with condition.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by greygoblings(m): 8:05pm On Apr 11, 2022
Uprightness100:
Christianity is not your problem.
Your problem is being wise in your own eyes.
You Problem is not seeking GOD Face or HIS Choice before you take decisions.

Olodo
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Mom007(f): 8:06pm On Apr 11, 2022
Uprightness100:
Christianity is not your problem.
Your problem is being wise in your own eyes.
You Problem is not seeking GOD Face or HIS Choice before you take decisions.


Not just before the marriage but during as well. A lot of people have never sought Gods guidance in their marriage yet they blame him when things go wrong.

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Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by informatica(m): 8:08pm On Apr 11, 2022
The verse "God hates divorce" (Malachi 2:16) did not appear in the Bible before 1611 when the King James Bible was published. Many Bible scholars consider the translation erroneous or an interpolation. That is why many versions of the Bible do not have the sentence.

Christian Standard Bible (CSB) translates the same verse thus: “If he hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord God of Israel, “he covers his garment with injustice,” says the Lord of Armies. Therefore, watch yourselves carefully, and do not act treacherously.

English Standard Version (ESV) translates the same verse as “For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the LORD, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the LORD of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.”

New International Version 2011 (NIV) translates it as “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,” says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.

It is important to understand that the books that make up the Bible were originally written in ancient languages such as Hebrew and Greek. The meanings of some of the words have changed. The books were translated into Latin and later into English. It is not far-fetched that some of the translators erred. Human beings are not infallible. Some of them may have had ulterior motive in translating some verses of the Bible.

It is important to pay attention to the context under which some biblical laws or statements were made. A thorough reading of Malachi 2 will show that the verse is about God's rebuke of Jewish men who divorced their wives without cause in order to marry foreign women after the exile. The book of Malachi was written 500 years before Christ. Some laws in the Bible were given to address a particular situation in ancient times.

May the soul of Ms Osinachi Nwachukwu rest in peace.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by wirinet(m): 8:11pm On Apr 11, 2022
This man is speaking from both sides of his mouth. Divorce is not allowed under any circumstances, but instead of killing them return them back to their father if you can't love them.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by harmargedon: 8:13pm On Apr 11, 2022
Nauttyprof:


The Bible verse you quoted does not support whatever he preached. The Pastor only spoke what the Bible says and didn't just say this on his own. He also spoke against a killer marriage.

Now, on the subject matter divorce. The Bible is absolutely clear that God hates divorce. So, it's best getting it right from the beginning. The question now is if one made the wrong choice, what happens? This is where separation comes in and not Divorce. The man or woman can be separated from the wife or husband till the opposite partner is restored or certain traits addressed through therapy and the likes.

So, the summary of everything still stands God hates divorce but there can be separation especially in life threatening circumstances till the opposite partner is restored to the norm in a marriage.
How can God hate something he never designed. Marriage wasn't designed by God, it was man's idea of bringing order to the world. Know this and know peace.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Tonyblessed(m): 8:27pm On Apr 11, 2022
Uprightness100:
GOD Hates Divorce. And as people of GOD, we don't do what our Father hates. That does not mean you should remain in silence if your life is threatened.

If your life is threatened in your home, dont keep quiet. get Godly counsel, get out of the place.


Yes, God hates it but it is also permitted in case of adultery.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Prettygirl200(f): 8:28pm On Apr 11, 2022
The day any useless man born of a woman raise his filthy hands to hit me be in any relationship or marriage, that will be the end. I don't and can never tolerate such in any so called marriage or relationship, the family of this woman tried to pull her from that chimpanzee she calls a husband several times but the ignorant woman keeps saying God will change him, God will change him now see the results she don enter grave she forgot that she has one life she has died and left her four children. I will always tell women and girls the day any man hit u be it or marriage or relationship call it a quit. Na from clap dey take dey enter dance. Marriage is not by force!!!!

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Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Nauttyprof(m): 8:34pm On Apr 11, 2022
harmargedon:
How can God hate something he never designed. Marriage wasn't designed by God, it was man's idea of bringing order to the world. Know this and know peace.

Well, this came from your thought process.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by harmargedon: 8:41pm On Apr 11, 2022
Nauttyprof:


Well, this came from your thought process.
nope, it came from the bible.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Nauttyprof(m): 8:43pm On Apr 11, 2022
harmargedon:
nope, it came from the bible.

And your thoughts in interpretation
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by MossLuv: 8:46pm On Apr 11, 2022
Uprightness100:
Christianity is not your problem.
Your problem is being wise in your own eyes.
You Problem is not seeking GOD Face or HIS Choice before you take decisions.

Even God Himself separated with one of His angel (Lucifer). Jesus seperated with Judas. How can we say one should not seperated when his/her life is in danger? There's no place in the Bible that is outrightly against divorce .
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by harmargedon: 8:52pm On Apr 11, 2022
Nauttyprof:


And your thoughts in interpretation

Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by rollywise(m): 9:03pm On Apr 11, 2022
damola1:
cheesy cheesy

Is he contradicting himself?

I quote:

Divorce is NOT allowed UNDER ANY condition.

then he said:

this is what he believes:

It is better to be alive: and there is no marriage, than for you to die because of marriage:

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Oga stay 1 place. you are saying you will choose common sense over scriptural instructions of Divorce is NOT allowed UNDER ANY condition.

Are you saying your belief is no longer in line with scriptural doctrines






Try get sense. He's trying to say separate from such spouse. Separation is not divorce. Na from him mouth you wan hear say yansh dey back??
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Justmesagi: 9:03pm On Apr 11, 2022
Na so
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Opolopoopolonio: 9:23pm On Apr 11, 2022
Where life is under threat in a marriage, SEPARATION is allowed.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by damosky12(m): 9:46pm On Apr 11, 2022
thinkmoney:

He admittedly said an abused victim should leave. But he took the style of paul Enenche. They both made it look like there isn't provision for it. Paul Enenche made that suggestion like it was just him suggesting it.
We should not do pass God. It's the same God that said he hates divorce that through Jesus and other apostles revealed the conditions under which it is permitted. God knows "we are humans" and we abuse a lot if beautiful things. God is all wise. He definitely must have known that dangerous situations will arise in some marriages.
I didn't castigate Paul Eneche and this brother here based on my own logic, I have castigated them from bible logic. Its dangerous to try to help God by ones own sentiments. Anybody, no matter how placed that tries to muddle up the bible or makes salvation harder than it should be like the then pharisees used to do, is not more than castigating. Paul Rebuked Peter openly for his hypocrisy. Who are these men that I can't point them out!?
God rather be found true and everybody else a liar.

Lol. It's how you assumed you have "Bible logic"and they don't. It's how you think you are the Paul and they are Peter.

Don't be too confident you aren't the one who needs to understand better.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by thinkmoney(m): 9:49pm On Apr 11, 2022
damosky12:


Lol. It's how you assumed you have "Bible logic"and they don't. It's how you think you are the Paul and they are Peter.

Don't be too confident you aren't the one who needs to understand better.
Haven't I shown where bible show my logic? The bible is there to measure with.
Do you find loopholes in my claims from the bible?
The bible is one..with on message...

You may help show my foolishness out by the bible...that's if u can?
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by damosky12(m): 9:53pm On Apr 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
It doesn't matter what God's original plan is or was.. what matters is that God allows for Divorce, and marriage in and of itself is not holy this since Jesus Christ made it clear that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 undecided

Romans 12:2 speaks about good will, acceptable will, and perfect will. That something is acceptable or "allowed" doesn't mean God loves it. He merely permits it. God hates divorce. It's not His plan.

Marriage is earthly. But it mirrors the realities of heaven. This is why Paul, by God's Spirit, writes husbands to love their wives "...as Christ loved the Church" (Eph 5:25). Hence, in marriage, we have to mirror God's plan.

This is why Jesus, in Matt 19:6, speaks about the husband and the wife becoming ONE. God's plan is that the two become one. No separation amongst them. This is God's perfect will.

Yes, He "allows" separation when there is a threat to life. But just like pastor Enenche and others have said, God hates divorce. It's however allowed when there is a danger or threat to life or peace. It's clear.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by damosky12(m): 9:56pm On Apr 11, 2022
thinkmoney:

Haven't I shown where bible show my logic? The bible is there to measure with.
Do you find loopholes in my claims from the bible?
The bible is one..with on message...

You may help show my foolishness out by the bible...that's if u can?

Read the next post after yours. My response to that person show your errors.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Nobody: 9:59pm On Apr 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
God's initial plan? Interesting! undecided

Are you referring to the same God who cursed marriage after the fall of man in Genesis 3 vs 16 guaranteeing that every marriage submitted to the curse will be subject to the same rules as all else in life?. undecided

If you are married to an unbeliever, and you divorce such a one on just that ground, you are guilty of adultery. I dont know where you folks get off inserting your own laws into God's mouth. undecided

There is no curse on you for marrying an unbeliever. Such claims are lies. God's curse is on marriage itself so whether you claim to be a believer or not, once you are married according to God's curse, your marriage marriage cursed by God Himself from the beginning. undecided

I didn't say divorce the unbeliever, I said if the unbeliever departs the marriage.


1 Corinthians 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.


Read verse 15 well
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by thinkmoney(m): 10:01pm On Apr 11, 2022
damosky12:


Read the next post after yours. My response to that person show your errors.
Well, I have tried looking for it but didnt find it. Can u be kind and copy and paste it here. I am always willing to learn
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by Kobojunkie: 10:02pm On Apr 11, 2022
Ficient:
I didn't say divorce the unbeliever, I said if the unbeliever departs the marriage.
I am a follower of Jesus Christ, the one who God Himself commanded that we Obey and according to Jesus Christ,and God, it matters not the belief of the one you are or were married to. The same rules and divorce and remarriage apply. undecided

So in the case an unbelieving partner abandons for any reason other than sexual immorality, adultery laws as stated by Jesus Christ still apply. undecided
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by damola1: 10:07pm On Apr 11, 2022
rollywise:






Try get sense. He's trying to say separate from such spouse. Separation is not divorce. Na from him mouth you wan hear say yansh dey back??


Rolly wise. The sensible wise rolly. I don’t know how a whole pastor cannot talk straight. Oga stand or sit. I here to follow instructions. Not become an interpreter
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by marhez43(f): 10:30pm On Apr 11, 2022
Yes oo.
@men are evil that is hw they do we women.
Beta shine u eyes ladies dis is 2022 new year.i beg no die 4 man.
RIP
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by GreyLaw(m): 10:52pm On Apr 11, 2022
Nauttyprof:


The Bible verse you quoted does not support whatever he preached. The Pastor only spoke what the Bible says and didn't just say this on his own. He also spoke against a killer marriage.

Now, on the subject matter divorce. The Bible is absolutely clear that God hates divorce. So, it's best getting it right from the beginning. The question now is if one made the wrong choice, what happens? This is where separation comes in and not Divorce. The man or woman can be separated from the wife or husband till the opposite partner is restored or certain traits addressed through therapy and the likes.

So, the summary of everything still stands God hates divorce but there can be separation especially in life threatening circumstances till the opposite partner is restored to the norm in a marriage.

Read your Bible again. Jesus clearly gave the conditions for divorce. He said someone can divorce only on the ground of fornication. Check the original Greek Bible and the original word is "porneia" which means adultery, harlotry and incest. On these grounds people can safely divorce.

It is there in your Bible. And I don't even want to go deeper into this. Jesus was speaking to the Jews. He wasn't talking to you Gentile believer. Everything Jesus preached before his death was only to the "lost sheep of Israel", and this is why he initially refused to heal the daughter of the Canaanite woman whom he figuratively called a dog.

Fast forward to Paul the apostle (the apostle to the gentiles) and he made it clear that issue of divorce and the laws surrounding it were for those "who knew the law". Hence it was for those under the law. See Romans 7: 1 That whole chapter he talked about divorce, remarriage, etc... and he said "for I speak to them that know the law." That's to the Jewish Christians.

You never had the law, were never under the law, never knew the law, and so those laws never applied to you in the first place. You are a gentile believer who was engrafted by God's mercy and providence when the Jews rejected Christ. The real letter to the gentile Church are Paul's epistles to the Romans, Chorinthians, Ephesians, Galatians, and Thesalonians. Here as a Christian who is not of the stock of earthly Israel, God has given you his blueprint.

During the Jerusalem Council what did the apostles conclude? (Acts 15:1-35) Three things: that the gentile believer should 1. Abstain from food offered to idols. 2. Abstain from fornication. 3. Abstain from strangled meet and blood. Every other thing is just people trying to put themselves under heavy yokes.

Most people mix things from the old testament and then add Peter's instructions to the Jewish Christians and all sorts of things and get confused, making hard laws for people to follow.

A better study of the scriptures will make everything abundantly clear by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by harmony75: 10:55pm On Apr 11, 2022
This msg was for her madam osinachi maybe after the pst have had her experience. Do you know pastors use what they hear from their members to preach the word of God?! Ignorance killed this woman, how can you be in pain and kept enduring it!?, she's just sacrificed heirself to her enemy.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by wirinet(m): 10:57pm On Apr 11, 2022
rollywise:






Try get sense. He's trying to say separate from such spouse. Separation is not divorce. Na from him mouth you wan hear say yansh dey back??
Me I no know English o! What is separation, what is divorce?
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by GreyLaw(m): 10:57pm On Apr 11, 2022
wirinet:

Me I no know English o! What is separation, what is divorce?

According to the Bible, separation and divorce are two different things.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by seunayantokun(m): 11:10pm On Apr 11, 2022
I think it is the fault of everybody who doesn't give regard to the Word of God. Jesus said, 'Ye err because ye know not the Scriptures'.

Some people have spoken about ensuring you get God's choice so that your marriage will be peaceful. Well, I don't know how that can be understood and handled by those who have not yet accepted Jesus Christ as the Master of their lives.

Plus, there is a need to understand that God is good to all - just like He makes His rain to fall and bless everyone and gives everyone His sunshine, so He blesses people, whether sinners or saints, with His own choice of husbands or wives, without them embarking on any spiritual exercise as preached among the Christian community. But a Christian stands a better chance of getting it right and more blessed if they walk in the light they have, which is not always the case.

It is sad that many Christians have a sour marriage to endure while many who are not Christians are enjoying theirs. Is God to blame here? Far be it! God has no fault. We are rather in the position to re-examine ourselves and what we tend to believe and practice. There are many things to point out here but I have to time to discuss them.

Let me just state that it is time to go back to the Word of God that will open our eyes to fundamental truths and help us to move into a world of God's kind of reality. We want to hear God speak in a dream, vision, etc. Fine but we might be wrong there. I'm a believer in supernatural ways and manifestations of God but I also believe the settled Word is better as God doesn't always use those things for all people. The Bible, remains superior to all those stuffs. When,
for instance, God through the prophet asks in Amos 3 :3, ' Can two walk together, except they be agreed?', aren't we supposed to understand that and rightly apply it instead of being tossed about by uncertain winds of emotions? We should fast and pray to know the Word of God rather trying to be more spiritual than the Holy Spirit.

Also, I'd like to note that we should try to strike a balance and emphasise that both men and women have been victims of bad marriages rather women alone.
Re: A Killer Marriage Is A Nonsense Marriage - Paul Enenche (Throwback Video) by writeprof(m): 11:13pm On Apr 11, 2022
GOD hates divorce and not divorcees because the souls of divorcees are precious to Him.

God hates SIN and not the sinner because JESUS CHRIST died for the redemption of sinners.

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