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In the old testament we saw thateven though God appeared to previous messengers and prophets one thing he never did was to show his face.

In Christianity you see the image of Christ everywhere in churches people dream seeing Christ in their dream but question is this God or an impersonator.

Deuteronomy 4
12 And the Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the voice of the words, but saw no form; there was only a voice.

Deuteronomy 4
15 Therefore take good heed to yourselves, since you saw no form of Him on the day the Lord spoke to you on Horeb out of the midst of the fire,

16 Beware lest you become corrupt by making for yourselves [to worship] a graven image in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

image of a male actor as been circulating everywhere in Christianity which is being regarded as the image of God.

To say Christ image of the invisible God is an idolatory word is idolatory.

1 John 4
No man has at any time [yet] seen God. But if we love one another, God abides (lives and remains) in us and His love (that love which is essentially His) is brought to completion (to its full maturity, runs its full course, is perfected) in us!


Jesus had been seen but not God.

haekymbahd:
In the old testament we saw thateven though God appeared to previous messengers and prophets one thing he never did was to show his face.

In Christianity you see the image of Christ everywhere in churches people dream seeing Christ in their dream but question is this God or an impersonator.

Deuteronomy 4
12 And the Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the voice of the words, but saw no form; there was only a voice.

Deuteronomy 4
15 Therefore take good heed to yourselves, since you saw no form of Him on the day the Lord spoke to you on Horeb out of the midst of the fire,

16 Beware lest you become corrupt by making for yourselves [to worship] a graven image in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

image of a male actor as been circulating everywhere in Christianity which is being regarded as the image of God.

To say Christ image of the invisible God is an idolatory word is idolatory.

1 John 4
No man has at any time [yet] seen God. But if we love one another, God abides (lives and remains) in us and His love (that love which is essentially His) is brought to completion (to its full maturity, runs its full course, is perfected) in us!

Jesus had been seen but not God.

Moses was seen and he WAS God! Exodus 7:1

So a balance view of what you're reading in the Bible is that the Almighty God can't be seen but as for all other Gods yes you can see them! Psalms 82:1,6 compare to 1Corinthians 8:5

MaxInDHouse:
Moses was seen and he WAS God! Exodus 7:1

So a balance view of what you're reading in the Bible is that the Almighty God can't be seen but as for all other Gods yes you can see them! Psalms 82:1,6 compare to 1Corinthians 8:5

Rubbish why not worship Moses then. If you can see anyone it automatically shows such being is not God including Moses and Jesus.

Isaiah 43
10 You are My witnesses, says the Lord, and My servant whom I have chosen, that you may know Me, believe Me and remain steadfast to Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.

haekymbahd:
Rubbish why not worship Moses then. If you can see anyone it automatically shows such being is not God including Moses and Jesus.

Isaiah 43
10 You are My witnesses, says the Lord, and My servant whom I have chosen, that you may know Me, believe Me and remain steadfast to Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.

Your problem is the Arabs because what they want you to believe is exactly what you want to impose on others!

The title GOD can be used in many ways but when it comes to worship faithful servants of God worship only the Almighty God.
Moses and Jesus are both Gods but since they both worship someone else then it means the person they worshiped is the one who deserves our worship!

MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is the Arabs because what they want you to believe is exactly what you want to impose on others!

The title GOD can be used in many ways but when it comes to worship faithful servants of God worship only the Almighty God.
Moses and Jesus are both Gods but since they both worship someone else then it means the person they worshiped is the one who deserves our worship!

Isaiah 43
10 You are My witnesses, says the Lord, and My servant whom I have chosen, that you may know Me, believe Me and remain steadfast to Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.

Mark 10
18 And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.


The problem is your bible, when was Moses and Jesus formed?

MaxInDHouse:
Moses was seen and he WAS God! Exodus 7:1

So a balance view of what you're reading in the Bible is that the Almighty God can't be seen but as for all other Gods yes you can see them! Psalms 82:1,6 compare to 1Corinthians 8:5

So you have many Gods in your Bible yet you still worship one God.

How many gods do you have in the Bible?

How many Gods do you have in the Bible?

What are the differences between them?

You still keep quoting all this Elohim verses your Bible translates as "gods" yet you call them Gods.

Moses was made a god for Pharaoh! If he was made a God, then maybe Moses exists in trinity in Jehovah witness theory.

haekymbahd:
Isaiah 43
10 You are My witnesses, says the Lord, and My servant whom I have chosen, that you may know Me, believe Me and remain steadfast to Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.

Mark 10
18 And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.

The problem is your bible, when was Moses and Jesus formed?

This is what God's word says about Moses:

And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. Exodus 7:1 RSV

This is what Isaiah wrote about the Messiah:

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given;
and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called “Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6 RSV

So when the same Isaiah now wrote what is found @ Isaiah 43:10 a comprehensive understanding of the concept should be that both Moses and Jesus were authoritized to act as Gods but all glory, honor and worship belongs to the One who authorized these two persons! Revelations 4:11

You don't have to kill yourself with HBP over what misinformed Churchgoers are saying, it's written in the Bible that Moses and Jesus were Gods but their type of God is not to be worshiped!

You can check the several definitions of that title "GOD" in any dictionary, it is not a name but title that could be bestowed on something or someone. But it's like the Arabs you're following don't have any idea about the title that's why they want to impose what they feel about the title on everyone!

Oxford dictionary meaning of the title GOD
A deity or supreme being; a supernatural, typically immortal, being with superior powers, to which personhood is attributed.
Synonyms: Thesaurus:god
The most frequently used name for the Islamic god is Allah.
alternative case form of God.
An idol.
Leo Messi is my god!
A representation of a deity, especially a statue or statuette.
Something or someone particularly revered, worshipped, idealized, admired and/or followed. ▼ show
(metaphor, slang) A person who is exceptionally skilled in a particular activity.
He is the god of soccer!
(metaphor) A person in a high position of authority, importance or influence.
(metaphor) A powerful ruler or tyrant.
(colloquial) An exceedingly handsome man.
Lounging on the beach were several Greek gods.

AntiChristian:
So you have many Gods in your Bible yet you still worship one God.

How many gods do you have in the Bible?

How many Gods do you have in the Bible?

What are the differences between them?

You still keep quoting all this Elohim verses your Bible translates as "gods" yet you call them Gods.

Moses was made a god for Pharaoh! If he was made a God, then maybe Moses exists in trinity in Jehovah witness theory.

Guy we are speaking ENGLISH not Arabic so check the meaning of the title GOD in any English dictionary!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy we are speaking ENGLISH not Arabic so check the meaning of the title GOD in any English dictionary!

God or god?

If you claim it is "God" then you're a liar.

Cos hear O Israel the Lord our God is one!

So Jesus is mighty God.

Jehovah is another God.

Moses is another God.

One God fought Jacob and lost.

You are Gods.

Satan is God.

So how do we reconcile your lies with all these?

Gods or gods? God or god?

AntiChristian:
God or god?

If you claim it is "God" then you're a liar.

Cos hear O Israel the Lord our God is one!

So Jesus is mighty God.

Jehovah is another God.

Moses is another God.

One God fought Jacob and lost.

You are Gods.

Satan is God.

So how do we reconcile your lies with all these?

Gods or gods? God or god?

It's translators that differentiate using higher or lower case the pronunciation remains the same.
You can't pronounce any of these differently:
GOD, God, god can you Sir?

MaxInDHouse:
It's translators that differentiate using higher or lower case the pronunciation remains the same.
You can't pronounce any of these differently:
GOD, God, god can you Sir?

It sure doesn't have same meaning!

AntiChristian:
It sure doesn't have same meaning!

GOD, God or god has the same meaning just as PRESIDENT, President or president means the same!

MaxInDHouse:
GOD, God or god has the same meaning just as PRESIDENT, President or president means the same!

Are you kidding me?

God is on its own.

god, gods, goddess, goddesses.

I think you may be right as Jehovah witness Jehovah can take the form of anything. He can be Moses God for Pharaoh. He can be Satan God of the world. He can be You are Gods. He can be God that lost to Jacob in battle.

Allah is far from all these demeaning descriptions!

AntiChristian:
Are you kidding me?
God is on its own.
god, gods, goddess, goddesses.
I think you may be right as Jehovah witness Jehovah can take the form of anything. He can be Moses God for Pharaoh. He can be Satan God of the world. He can be You are Gods. He can be God that lost to Jacob in battle.
Allah is far from all these demeaning descriptions!

Present the fine WORKS of your God in the gathering of it's worshipers apart from the worship that you're rendering to it.

Jehovah has successfully gathered millions throughout the earth, used the Bible to unite them, make them submit to the same line of thought, erased politics and racism from their hearts, and as for military services they're saying goodbye! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

I know that your God has infused in your head so many theories about itself but what are the positive results of your God in your gathering? James 2:18-26

MaxInDHouse:
Present the fine WORKS of your God in the gathering of it's worshipers apart from the worship that you're rendering to it.

Jehovah has successfully gathered millions throughout the earth, used the Bible to unite them, make them submit to the same line of thought, erased politics and racism from their hearts, and as for military services they're saying goodbye! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

I know that your God has infused in your head so many theories about itself but what are the positive results of your God in your gathering? James 2:18-26

Jehovah had military in Moses time till David's time. Where did He cancel his military?

Na your preaching anthem be this when you don't have anything to say again?

Even the devil is more organized than you so should we follow him?

AntiChristian:
Jehovah had military in Moses time till David's time. Where did He cancel his military?

Moses and David do ask God before going to face their enemies in battle and those enemies aren't worshipers of the same God otherwise it won't make any sense praying to the same God so as to kill your fellow believers in God.
That's what your God failed to grasp.
So once two persons agree to become worshipers of the same God then it's the duty of that God to ensure that LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign between His/Her worshipers!

AntiChristian:
Na your preaching anthem be this when you don't have anything to say again?

YES o! That's the truth no worshiper of false Gods can deny. If your God can't make PEACE (SALAM) reign among it's worshipers then your God is either FAKE or DEAD.
Because if the whole world are Muslims Allah supposed to unite it's worshipers and make them brothers and sisters who will not carry weapons against one another anymore!

AntiChristian:
Even the devil is more organized than you so should we follow him?

Of course the devil is well organized in his own program but it's his worshipers that can never be organized because they can't come to terms regarding right and wrong so they have to fight and kill themselves while their God (Satan) either watch helplessly or perhaps rejoice watching his worshipers kill one another!