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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 10:03am On Apr 20, 2022
DUNKA:
I understand and it was Just a sarcastic reference to poster since poster is calling it "mob action" on calling out a record of misrepresentation and and deceit for more than 10 years by an identified building contractor (Bosun Davies Shoyeye) with loses of million gone down the drain.


NOTED

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 10:04am On Apr 20, 2022
FEGEITOK:


For anyone wondering if the actions described constitute online mobbing aka mob action, here is some reading for you and some questions as well:

1. What is a mob?

2. Is one person or mob or is a mob a collection of people?

3. What does a mob do?

4. Can mob action be offline only? If no

5. Can mob action be online?

6. What drives mob action?

7. Do mob actions necessarily follow established legal rules for problem resolutions? If no

8. Is it not true that mobs have a mind of their own and that in the pursuit of such objectives they may inadvertently cross legal red lines?

9. Can mob action result in good or bad?

10. Does the end always justify the means?

You will understand my position if and when someone successfully brings an action on harassment, that actions have consequences.

I will not repeat my position on the contractual dispute, it was stated previously and I have no reason to restate, that said, I just wanted to point it what is happening for what it is.

It is no different from what the local government thugs or motor park thugs do.

The only difference is that is online.
Distraction and Deflection that has been the trend and that is why were are here now.

In case you have forgotten below is the list of innocent victims of your favorite fraudulent builder on Nairaland:

1.Mavverick
2. Yincalley
3. babalose
4. Nairaner
5. qc1
6. Brag3
7. 3strikes
8. Vimo3
9. Neophytemason
10. Jaydacosair
11. Ahonahoi
12. Somehow

Pressure will continue to be applied. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 10:18am On Apr 20, 2022
FEGEITOK:


For anyone wondering if the actions described constitute online mobbing aka mob action, here is some reading for you and some questions as well:

1. What is a mob?

2. Is one person or mob or is a mob a collection of people?

3. What does a mob do?

4. Can mob action be offline only? If no

5. Can mob action be online?

6. What drives mob action?

7. Do mob actions necessarily follow established legal rules for problem resolutions? If no

8. Is it not true that mobs have a mind of their own and that in the pursuit of such objectives they may inadvertently cross legal red lines?

9. Can mob action result in good or bad?

10. Does the end always justify the means?

You will understand my position if and when someone successfully brings an action on harassment, that actions have consequences.

I will not repeat my position on the contractual dispute, it was stated previously and I have no reason to restate, that said, I just wanted to point it what is happening for what it is.

It is no different from what the local government thugs or motor park thugs do.

The only difference is that is online.


It is YOU that needs to do the reading...

You made a claim that posts are some sort of mob action, then flash mob, now online mobbing . Which is it?

Maybe you should do more research on the claims you make.

Again I ask how is posting caveat emptor and reviews from a fraudster builder mobbing or whatever new term you come up with?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:27am On Apr 20, 2022
KolaShangOne:


He's kinda right though.

Basic security will do for homes.


Of course he's right. Majority of homes have just BASIC internet security. The operational word is BASIC.

Perosnally, I do not do BASIC in my life where I can. For me, BASIC is never enough. FIT FOR PURPOSE approach has served better in life than BASIC approach. My home internet security include antivirus (malware) programme and a VPN.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:36am On Apr 20, 2022
Stopthecap:



It is YOU that needs to do the reading...

You made a claim that posts are some sort of mob action, then flash mob, now online mobbing . Which is it?

Maybe you should do more research on the claims you make.

Again I ask how is posting caveat emptor and reviews from a fraudster builder mobbing or whatever new term you come up with?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 10:42am On Apr 20, 2022
Big bros, plz how can I get this drone? What price re we looking at? What re the specifications ?


EgunMogaji2:


I paid N204K for 20 tons in Ibadan this month. I wonder what the net effect of this will be. Will people be building smaller structures or construction will become stagnant?

Prices are going up all across the board. My mason team grudgingly accepted N65/block instead of the N50/block that I paid pre Covid.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 10:56am On Apr 20, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


I think my roads played a part in the delivery cost as I'm way deep in side Elebu and on horrible roads for those decrepit Mack trucks.

Same lamentation yesterday at New Garage saw mill.

Just approved 155k for granite and 62k for sand today . Still getting good deals then

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 10:57am On Apr 20, 2022
[quote author=FEGEITOK post=112111062][/quote]

So it is cyber mobbing/cyber bullying now ..

For the third and final time, I ask .

How is posting "buyer beware" and client reviews of a fraudster builder mob action, flash mob, online mobbing and now cyber bullying

So can I also say that YOU accusing me of mob action, online mobbing , and flash mobbing is also cyber bulling ?

I can see that you are a knowledgeable and learned person.
Please get your facts straight.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:02am On Apr 20, 2022
Enyinne:
Pop guy that can do a job on 5bedroom bungalow . Screeding and pop . Final job will be given to best offer . House owner dey abroad oo na connect i wan connect .
Kindly indicate.

He doesn't post as much but Dominion is/was the go to guy. Bolu is related to TwinsKenny, I think, so one can infer that since Twins is legit so will be Bolu. I've never heard anything untoward about Bolu or Dominion.

Good luck to the abrodians project. It titilates me to see abroadians investing back home.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:04am On Apr 20, 2022
DUNKA:
Distraction and Deflection that has been the trend and that is why were are here now.

In case you have forgotten below is the list of innocent victims of your favorite fraudulent builder on Nairaland:

1.Mavverick
2. Yincalley
3. babalose
4. Nairaner
5. qc1
6. Brag3
7. 3strikes
8. Vimo3
9. Neophytemason
10. Jaydacosair
11. Ahonahoi
12. Somehow

Pressure will continue to be applied. grin

Which is why I've been silent because it'll turn into an EgunMogaji tun ti zeh thing. Anyways my thread is still up despite several high level attempts to remove it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:07am On Apr 20, 2022
rmx:


Just approved 155k for granite and 62k for sand today . Still getting good deals then

You're getting great deals as you should. Any supplier that sees the massive structure that you're planting will like to get in on it and offer rock bottom pricing to stay in your purchasing favour.

You're also on the major express with zero gullies (potholes) unlike most of us grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:13am On Apr 20, 2022
KIDfurniture:
Big bros, plz how can I get this drone? What price re we looking at? What re the specifications ?


It really is a must have for any serious project person, IMHO.

I purchased this from Costco but they are available on Jiji. Stick with DJI as a brand. Mine is a MINI2, I also had a Mavic Pro at some point. All DJI. The MINI2 is the least I would recommend but if you can swing the entry fee then a Mavic Pro2 is the pro one.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 11:20am On Apr 20, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


He doesn't post as much but Dominion is/was the go to guy. Bolu is related to TwinsKenny, I think, so one can infer that since Twins is legit so will be Bolu. I've never heard anything untoward about Bolu or Dominion.

Good luck to the abrodians project. It titilates me to see abroadians investing back home.

Thank you for the mention sir. Agba yin adale..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 11:22am On Apr 20, 2022
Enyinne:
Pop guy that can do a job on 5bedroom bungalow . Screeding and pop . Final job will be given to best offer . House owner dey abroad oo na connect i wan connect .
Kindly indicate.

https://www.nairaland.com/6564561/pop-design-tv-wall-installation/68#112112176

Madam check our thread above

Quality job with good pricing too.

Get in touch

07088534661 whatsapp

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 11:24am On Apr 20, 2022
The sound of ur drone even seeing ur up up the sky is fantastic . At first I tot the sounds were coming from Battalion of bees lol.. it was when I looked well I knew it could only be from you sir..I will check jiji….thanks.. you look more handsome with your full beard sir.


EgunMogaji2:


It really is a must have for any serious project person, IMHO.

I purchased this from Costco but they are available on Jiji. Stick with DJI as a brand. Mine is a MINI2, I also had a Mavic Pro at some point. All DJI. The MINI2 is the least I would recommend but if you can swing the entry fee then a Mavic Pro2 is the pro one.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 11:38am On Apr 20, 2022
It is not one person but the actions of all accounts who post immediately after the vendor who is owing a client that constitutes mob action.

I repeat the actions as a collective.

That includes the harassment and intimidation meted out to other vendors who those monikers are assumed to have a soft spot for the vendor in question.

Pray tell which law backed the action of hounding a vendor and forcing him to make comments in support of your cause, going to his page to make derisory comments.

What's the difference between that and the mob action by those who believe in homosexuality against anyone who believes the opposite.

A mob is a group not one person.

The actions of all those monikers in concert is the issue.

I don't care about your cause whether it is right or wrong.

All I care is to call it by its name.

That does not take away from the fact that there is a debt that should be paid.

Separate emotions from issues and you will appreciate my angle.

Whether it is mob action, online mob, or flash mob (afterall all those monikers come out in a flash as soon as the said vendor posts) , it all qualifies as cyber bullying by the said monikers.

That's why I provided examples in the pasted links and pictures extract the principles ignore the parties there is no difference.

It is extra legal aka jungle justice

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 11:52am On Apr 20, 2022
And at the end of it all, no meaningful explanation was made but just sweaty fingers and jumping from place to place.

Let's try not to use words we don't know the meaning.

Whether we can read to understand remains a 'mystery'.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BrickDevo: 12:12pm On Apr 20, 2022
Something for the boss, big bathroom interior design with bathtub and shower

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 12:14pm On Apr 20, 2022
FEGEITOK:
It is not one person but the actions of all accounts who post immediately after the vendor who is owing a client that constitutes mob action.

I repeat the actions as a collective.

That includes the harassment and intimidation meted out to other vendors who those monikers are assumed to have a soft spot for the vendor in question.

Pray tell which law backed the action of hounding a vendor and forcing him to make comments in support of your cause, going to his page to make derisory comments.

What's the difference between that and the mob action by those who believe in homosexuality against anyone who believes the opposite.

A mob is a group not one person.

The actions of all those monikers in concert is the issue.

I don't care about your cause whether it is right or wrong.

All I care is to call it by its name.

That does not take away from the fact that there is a debt that should be paid.

Separate emotions from issues and you will appreciate my angle.

Whether it is mob action, online mob, or flash mob (afterall all those monikers come out in a flash as soon as the said vendor posts) , it all qualifies as cyber bullying by the said monikers.

That's why I provided examples in the pasted links and pictures extract the principles ignore the parties there is no difference.


You keep twisting yourself with legal words and jargon you do not understand.

I have not harassed anyone on this platform. FACT
Posting the public record and client testimonials of a fake builder is not harassment or intimidation- FACT

I do not and have never coordinated my posts or been in PRIVATE communication with anyone on this forum- FACT.

Posting after or close to someone one is not harassment.

By your logic also. The folks that communicate with the fraudster builder by replying, supporting or lending him credibility can also be said to be in conspiracy with him to perpetuate his fraudulent scheme on this platform right?
I don't think so

Again posting buyer beware is not harassment

Finally I will take it that you do not fully understand the issues here as can be seen from your blaming the existing QS, pleadings for independent QS, and asking for independent arbitrator.

The contract is clear on what remedy the client has when the contract is breached by the contractor, and there is no dispute on who did not fulfill their end of the contract. see picture

The owner can complete the building and bill the contractor as appropriate.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 12:16pm On Apr 20, 2022
Screeded ceiling slate...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 12:23pm On Apr 20, 2022
FEGEITOK:
It is not one person but the actions of all accounts who post immediately after the vendor who is owing a client that constitutes mob action.

I repeat the actions as a collective.

That includes the harassment and intimidation meted out to other vendors who those monikers are assumed to have a soft spot for the vendor in question.

Pray tell which law backed the action of hounding a vendor and forcing him to make comments in support of your cause, going to his page to make derisory comments.

What's the difference between that and the mob action by those who believe in homosexuality against anyone who believes the opposite.

A mob is a group not one person.

The actions of all those monikers in concert is the issue.

I don't care about your cause whether it is right or wrong.

All I care is to call it by its name.

That does not take away from the fact that there is a debt that should be paid.

Separate emotions from issues and you will appreciate my angle.

Whether it is mob action, online mob, or flash mob (afterall all those monikers come out in a flash as soon as the said vendor posts) , it all qualifies as cyber bullying by the said monikers.

That's why I provided examples in the pasted links and pictures extract the principles ignore the parties there is no difference.

It is extra legal aka jungle justice

Vendors are the mob dude
Oh Boy use your head now na vendors gang up against other people here
n3xt or Bosu was sending me WhatsApp text regarding other vendor
n3xt or Bosu though I was the vendor client
What n3xt or Bosu did is what is called "harassment and intimidation"

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:30pm On Apr 20, 2022
bolu1986:
Screeded ceiling slate...

I love the simplicity of this ceiling.

I’ll never ever do designs on my ceilings again.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:31pm On Apr 20, 2022
The art of deflection.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 12:31pm On Apr 20, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Stopthecap: 12:32pm On Apr 20, 2022
GoodFaith:


Vendors are the mob dude
Oh Boy use your head now na vendors gang up against other people here
n3xt or Bosu was sending me WhatsApp text regarding other vendor
n3xt or Bosu though I was the vendor client
What n3xt or Bosu did is what is called "harassment and intimidation"

What?
If true

you see am now? shocked shocked shocked

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Carmal90(m): 12:34pm On Apr 20, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


I love the simplicity of this ceiling.

I’ll never ever do designs on my ceilings again.

Maybe I will finally choose a plain pop .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:37pm On Apr 20, 2022
KIDfurniture:
The sound of ur drone even seeing ur up up the sky is fantastic . At first I tot the sounds were coming from Battalion of bees lol.. it was when I looked well I knew it could only be from you sir..I will check jiji….thanks.. you look more handsome with your full beard sir.


I hope it’s not too disturbing.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 12:37pm On Apr 20, 2022
Stopthecap:


What?
If true

you see am now? shocked shocked shocked


Why do you think I will lie
This took place march 23, 2022
You can look back at the activities of March 23
The issue might have to do with "rajput4real93:"

Below was my posting March 23

Nairaland People
I got WhatsApp Msgs from n3xt or Bosun This Morning
I am not sure what he was trying to tell me my people
Please people read my past posting
All I have told him is to go fix his problem with his clients
I am not here to take side
If n3xt or Bosun was hoping for me to support him
He need to get wisdom as a young man
If he was playing kids game of trying to intimated me to align with him
I am not sure
But it look like child play

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:38pm On Apr 20, 2022
Carmal90:


Maybe I will finally choose a plain pop .

Try to watch this YouTube channel for inspiration.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSWldaT-AE

Personally, I dropped the ball by going along with the Nigerian nonsense.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 12:42pm On Apr 20, 2022
Yes , i hv contacted Bolu . Thanks sir
EgunMogaji2:


He doesn't post as much but Dominion is/was the go to guy. Bolu is related to TwinsKenny, I think, so one can infer that since Twins is legit so will be Bolu. I've never heard anything untoward about Bolu or Dominion.

Good luck to the abrodians project. It titilates me to see abroadians investing back home.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aduragbemi45(m): 12:42pm On Apr 20, 2022
At ADYEM INTERIOR CONCEPTS we are in the business of making your home a paradise..
Some of our ongoing artworks..

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 12:43pm On Apr 20, 2022
It is not always what is said it is also the implications of what is done.

If a third party sees a gang of motor park touts appear around a vehicle driven by a non-member of the park to force him away for stopping to pick a passenger in front of their park does it matter that there was no prearrangement?

Didn't they gather together to achieve the same purpose at the same time and the same place?

I never used mob action in the meaning under US law.

Mob action is when a group of people come together to enforce their own version of right over another.

If it happens online it can be called an online mob or cyber bullying.

Check cyber bullying under Nigerian Law.

*EDITED to fix typos

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