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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:41am On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
Neither did I ever think I will live to see far right supposed lovers of free speech and small governments cancel a mega corporation for having an opinion.

After attempting to obfuscate you will come and face the real issue
Mega corporation tried to cancel a government even though the had nothing to do with Disney.

Disney is trouble maker in the education bill, they lied about it and pledged to work to repeal it.

the bill had nothing to do with Disney at all.
nothing to do with its product,
its business model
or its employees.

Disney got into its stance based on pressure from a woke segment of its employees and from progressives on the outside.

Their case against the bill relied on the smear that the legislation somehow threatened gay or trans people.
The same lie you sanpipita was exposed by raumdeuter for spreading.
In fact, the law merely seeks to exclude inappropriate material from being taught to young children in the classroom an objective that once would have been considered utterly banal.

Classroom instruction,” the law says, “by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.
Disney went to the mattresses, all they did was not to serve its shareholders,
enhance its profitability,
protect its intellectual property
or align itself with its vast and politically diverse customer base.

The family brand of the world opening saying they want to make everything gay, making itself into a free-floating weapon of woke cultural politics in response to the social and political influence of a small number of vocal libtards who flee their states because of their own policies to red states.

Like many other companies before, they calculated the risk/reward of gratuitously taking up a left-wing political and cultural fight and considered it all reward, no risk. The Florida legislature decided to convince it that it was wrong.

We know how you people was cheering companies in Georgia for boycotting the laws of the land. You want to use the companies to punish people, you didn't care about people suffering then when they lose job because the company wants to leave... Now you are complaining about people suffering. You are anti Florida, since when did you care about the people there?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:44am On Apr 30, 2022
Elder0001:
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Since musk was a bad racist pedophile and the left was quiet till he became vocal about their values he did not like.

This is how they did with trump. The same pattern. Musk is the new trump. He should run for president as a republican. In fact, independent let the would see that who these leftist really are.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:00am On Apr 30, 2022
saxywale1:
The bolded is spot on. When they get censored on twitter or Reddit, they jump on to the Social Media (SM) 1 site offering them the chance to spread hate till it becomes too much for the moderators of SM1, SM1 kicks em' out and they move on to SM2, SM2 starts moderating and kicks them out as well, they move on to SM3, they get kicked out too and the cycle continues.

As per the tweet by Dr. Johnson, Parler and Gab had no choice than to moderate/ban.

Aside the darkweb, Gab is pretty full of far right extremists content; yet, it had to censor/moderate still. I remember Chris Cantwell got kicked off Gab. There is only so much that these SM sites can allow.

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-site-gab-bans-crying-nazi-killing-leftists-1367679

Christopher Cantwell also known as the Crying Nazi, is an American white supremacist, neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist and convicted felon.

Same with Parler, and Truth Social which even went as far as moderating users for making fun of it's CEO and moderating Trump's buddy (Roger Stone).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-truth-social-developing-content-moderation-practices-to-ensure-family-friendly-community
Some form of moderation is needed in any public forum including here.
Big tech unfortunately has become the DNC favourite ground to censor crimes that Dems commit.
They have banned so many conservatives over correct assertions. For instance Twitter suspended New York Post for reporting the contents of Hunter Bidens laptop from hell.
Which Daily Mail and NYT later confirmed the contents as authentic.
Big tech also suspended Babylon Bee for writing that the Assistant Secretary of Health is a man.( He transgendered at 53 years). In effect this was what really made a furious Elon Musk buy off Twitter.


The noises from the left are really about them not being able to silence dissenting voices.

Biden has created a new department Ministry of Truth. Headed by a virulent leftist.

The left wants to control what you think, what you read/hear and what you say.This makes y'all zombies absorbing leftist policies .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 10:06am On Apr 30, 2022
saxywale1:
The bolded is spot on. When they get censored on twitter or Reddit, they jump on to the Social Media (SM) 1 site offering them the chance to spread hate till it becomes too much for the moderators of SM1, SM1 kicks em' out and they move on to SM2, SM2 starts moderating and kicks them out as well, they move on to SM3, they get kicked out too and the cycle continues.

As per the tweet by Dr. Johnson, Parler and Gab had no choice than to moderate/ban.

Aside the darkweb, Gab is pretty full of far right extremists content; yet, it had to censor/moderate still. I remember Chris Cantwell got kicked off Gab. There is only so much that these SM sites can allow.

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-site-gab-bans-crying-nazi-killing-leftists-1367679

Christopher Cantwell also known as the Crying Nazi, is an American white supremacist, neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist and convicted felon.

Same with Parler, and Truth Social which even went as far as moderating users for making fun of it's CEO and moderating Trump's buddy (Roger Stone).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-truth-social-developing-content-moderation-practices-to-ensure-family-friendly-community
We all know they want to be able to express bigotry freely, to them that's only free speech they understand, Elon Musk wants to pander to this people either to disappoint them or to destroy Twitter, most of these extreme apps never go big and mainstream because nobody will invest their money there, even some end up dying.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:14am On Apr 30, 2022
basilico:
Some form of moderation is needed in any public forum including here.
Big tech unfortunately has become the DNC favourite ground to censor crimes that Dems commit.
They have banned so many conservatives over correct assertions. For instance Twitter suspended New York Post for reporting the contents of Hunter Bidens laptop from hell.
Which Daily Mail and NYT later confirmed the contents as authentic.
Big tech also suspended Babylon Bee for writing that the Assistant Secretary of Health is a man.( He transgendered at 53 years). In effect this was what really made a furious Elon Musk buy off Twitter.


The noises from the left are really about them not being able to silence dissenting voices.

Biden has created a new department Ministry of Truth. Headed by a virulent leftist.

The left wants to control what you think, what you read/hear and what you say.This makes y'all zombies absorbing leftist policies .
Exactly, the moderators also need moderation
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:28am On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
We all know they want to be able to express bigotry freely, to them that's only free speech they understand, Elon Musk wants to pander to this people either to disappoint them or to destroy Twitter, most of these extreme apps never go big and mainstream because nobody will invest their money there, even some end up dying.
You are lying about having free speech. You claim that it's to spread bigotry. Is reporting that Hunter Biden received cash from China and Ukraine spreading bigotry?
That is a big lie that the left puts out. There are obviously extreme far right racists , they exist that we can agree on. What's the worst they can do? Kill of other races like Hitler did? Or just rant as keyboard warriors?
We also have far left. They are closer to Marxist and communism. They want power and have no scruples in their pursuit of it. They lie and forment trouble, calling any dissenting voice as racist plus homophobic, islamophobic etc.
They tar and feather those opposing voices.

The left has a grip on media which they use to silence everyone else.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:46am On Apr 30, 2022
Magnoliaa:
AmazonTopaz, is this still that Dapshit dude or somebody else?
My dear I don't even know and I don't care.

The thing doesn't exist to me so I don't even notice it.

shocked shocked shocked
When did you become a man!!! grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:47am On Apr 30, 2022
saxywale1:
The bolded is spot on. When they get censored on twitter or Reddit, they jump on to the Social Media (SM) 1 site offering them the chance to spread hate till it becomes too much for the moderators of SM1, SM1 kicks em' out and they move on to SM2, SM2 starts moderating and kicks them out as well, they move on to SM3, they get kicked out too and the cycle continues.

As per the tweet by Dr. Johnson, Parler and Gab had no choice than to moderate/ban.

Aside the darkweb, Gab is pretty full of far right extremists content; yet, it had to censor/moderate still. I remember Chris Cantwell got kicked off Gab. There is only so much that these SM sites can allow.

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-site-gab-bans-crying-nazi-killing-leftists-1367679

Christopher Cantwell also known as the Crying Nazi, is an American white supremacist, neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist and convicted felon.

Same with Parler, and Truth Social which even went as far as moderating users for making fun of it's CEO and moderating Trump's buddy (Roger Stone).

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-truth-social-developing-content-moderation-practices-to-ensure-family-friendly-community
Those people are terrible.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Magnoliaa(f): 11:13am On Apr 30, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
shocked shocked shocked
When did you become a man!!! grin grin
I've been one for a while now. It's the best thing ever. smiley smiley Just living truthfully and happily with my true identity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:19am On Apr 30, 2022
Ibime:
I'm glad you stated this as non-political matter so why do your favourite politicians make this a central campaign? In my country, this is a matter for sports commentators, not politicians. I don't support trans in sports, but this is not an important political matter.
Are you a slow poke or just being civil
I removed you from political comments and downgraded you to topics involving erotica.
Where I'm sure you can thrive best, not here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 11:53am On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
Neither did I ever think I will live to see far right supposed lovers of free speech and small governments cancel a mega corporation for having an opinion.

After attempting to obfuscate you will come and face the real issue
Imagine carrying water for crony-capitalism...

Disney isn't getting canceled, their agreement is coming to end and Disney will receive a billion dollar payout. Their rights aren't being breached here, they will be fine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 11:57am On Apr 30, 2022
Magnoliaa:
I've been one for a while now. It's the best thing ever. smiley smiley Just living truthfully and happily with my true identity.
Transgender shocked cool
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 12:10pm On Apr 30, 2022
BasedUsername:
Imagine carrying water for crony-capitalism...

Disney isn't getting canceled, their agreement is coming to end and Disney will receive a billion dollar payout. Their rights aren't being breached here, they will be fine.
Who said I was carrying water for corny capitalism, Republicans had no problems with same corny capitalism till Disney decided to have an opinion.

Call out cancel culture for what it is and stop tip toeing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 12:14pm On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
Who said I was carrying water for corny capitalism, Republicans had no problems with same corny capitalism till Disney decided to have an opinion.

Call out cancel culture for what it is and stop tip toeing
Learn the difference between opinion and intimidation.

And also, they should do thorough research before having an opinion and pledging to fight a government.

They were quiet and rightly so, but they caved to a non pressure from the woke left. The make their own bed, they will lie on it.

No one is canceling them. They are just taking all the things they benefit from what they want to fight.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by BasedUsername: 12:18pm On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
Who said I was carrying water for corny capitalism, Republicans had no problems with same corny capitalism till Disney decided to have an opinion.

Call out cancel culture for what it is and stop tip toeing
This deal was struck before Florida even had a constitution. For whatever reason, Disney decided to piss off the other party and the deal ended. It's not like Disney hasn't threatened to stop doing business with Georgia in the past over some piece of legislation, now the same is being done to them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:22pm On Apr 30, 2022
sanpipita:
Who said I was carrying water for corny capitalism, Republicans had no problems with same corny capitalism till Disney decided to have an opinion.

Call out cancel culture for what it is and stop tip toeing
Your opinions never earn my respect and I think the feeling is mutual.

Disney caved in to some very vocal leftists within their ranks with the help of media and big tech.
Disney Won't go broke and shutter any time soon.
Why is the left insisting on acceptance of some ideals involving sexualizing young kids.Disney still has a number of paedophiles who have been indicted so far.
How would you feel if a school is teaching your below ten year old tomboy kids that they are trapped in the wrong bodies. Your own kids .
Just an example.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:15pm On Apr 30, 2022
Malcolm x telling you how dangerous liberals are with their problem solving mentality

https://twitter.com/KasaSaaz/status/1520054263107387393?t=dRF85ixFeEguMZqfn2L3TQ&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:23pm On Apr 30, 2022
Disney's dilemma and the future of an unwoked Twitter.

It's hard to find the Centre when it's being pulled Left and Right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764945/Disney-RESTORES-lesbian-kiss-Pixars-Lightyear.html

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:49pm On Apr 30, 2022
The issue is not Trump the person or what he might do to the country while in office. (Though these are important concerns.) The issue is what the success of his campaign reveals about the country.

It is of course true that not everyone who voted for Trump did so for identical reasons; indeed, many voters voted not for Trump but against Hillary, and there is ample reason to dread her ascendancy to the presidency.

But it is wrong to whitewash the campaign as Jenkins does in his article, calling Trump’s performance “the upbeat, improvisational show” most of his fan base “were waiting for.”

It is also wrong to think that the campaign’s success stems mainly from supporters’ reasonable responses to real grievances, among the most significant of which are the country’s ever-increasing economic controls, the conformist demands for political correctness and the failure honestly to confront Islamic totalitarianism.

https://ari.aynrand.org/issues/government-and-business/individual-rights/one-small-step-for-dictatorship-the-significance-of-donald-trumps-election/
The irony is the source, and the when.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:54pm On Apr 30, 2022
BasedUsername:
This deal was struck before Florida even had a constitution. For whatever reason, Disney decided to piss off the other party and the deal ended. It's not like Disney hasn't threatened to stop doing business with Georgia in the past over some piece of legislation, now the same is being done to them.
Disney is so pissed at Florida law against teaching children about sexuality without parental consent, when will this same Disney actually ban China where being gay can land you a death sentence


What concerns Disney with politics in the state of Florida but If Disney choose to become a political actor they should expect political blowback

If you don't want it, stay out of politics
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:07pm On Apr 30, 2022
The status of the embryo in the first trimester is the basic issue that cannot be sidestepped. The embryo is clearly pre-human; only the mystical notions of religious dogma treat this clump of cells as constituting a person.

We must not confuse potentiality with actuality. An embryo is a potential human being. It can, granted the woman’s choice, develop into an infant. But what it actually is during the first trimester is a mass of relatively undifferentiated cells that exist as a part of a woman’s body. If we consider what it is rather than what it might become, we must acknowledge that the embryo under three months is something far more primitive than a frog or a fish. To compare it to an infant is ludicrous.

If we are to accept the equation of the potential with the actual and call the embryo an “unborn child,” we could, with equal logic, call any adult an “undead corpse” and bury him alive or vivisect him for the instruction of medical students.

That tiny growth, that mass of protoplasm, exists as a part of a woman’s body. It is not an independently existing, biologically formed organism, let alone a person. That which lives within the body of another can claim no right against its host. Rights belong only to individuals, not to collectives or to parts of an individual. (“Independent” does not mean self-supporting — a child who depends on its parents for food, shelter, and clothing, has rights because it is an actual, separate human being.)

“Rights,” in Ayn Rand’s words, “do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born.”

It is only on this base that we can support the woman’s political right to do what she chooses in this issue. No other person — not even her husband — has the right to dictate what she may do with her own body. That is a fundamental principle of freedom.
https://ari.aynrand.org/issues/government-and-business/individual-rights/abortion-rights-are-pro-life/
grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:24pm On Apr 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
Disney is so pissed at Florida law against teaching children about sexuality without parental consent, when will this same Disney actually ban China where being gay can land you a death sentence


What concerns Disney with politics in the state of Florida but If Disney choose to become a political actor they should expect political blowback

If you don't want it, stay out of politics
If you lie about the small things you're more likely just lying! Can you not see that Disney was woked?

Disney is concerned with its gate takings and streaming into the homes of as many Rights and Lefts and Centres as they can. But unfortunately for Disney, it has become a useful tool, just like Twitter.

Would someone make an offer, I wonder.

https://amp.scmp.com/lifestyle/family-relationships/article/3114633/lgbtq-people-china-picture-mixed-global-report-finds

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:35pm On Apr 30, 2022
budaatum:
If you lie about the small things you're more likely just lying! Can you not see that Disney was woked?

Disney is concerned with its gate takings and streaming into the homes of as many Rights and Lefts and Centres as they can. But unfortunately for Disney, it has become a useful tool, just like Twitter.

Would someone make an offer, I wonder.

https://amp.scmp.com/lifestyle/family-relationships/article/3114633/lgbtq-people-china-picture-mixed-global-report-finds
In your image it shows China offers no protection nor recognition for same sex couple,, the same protection that Florida has

Yet Disney is not pulling out of China for it not recognizing same sex couples
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 3:39pm On Apr 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
[s]In your image it shows China offers no protection nor recognition for same sex couple,, the same protection that Florida has

Yet Disney is not pulling out of China for it not recognizing same sex couples[/s]
raumdeuter:
Disney is so pissed at Florida law against teaching children about sexuality without parental consent, when will this same Disney actually ban China Nigeria where being gay can land you a death sentence


What concerns Disney with politics in the state of Florida but If Disney choose to become a political actor they should expect political blowback

If you don't want it, stay out of politics
Ya ah means Nigeria fob niqqa

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:29pm On Apr 30, 2022
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by gambojimeta: 5:31pm On Apr 30, 2022
basilico:
[s]Your opinions never earn my respect and I think the feeling is mutual.

Disney caved in to some very vocal leftists within their ranks with the help of media and big tech.
Disney Won't go broke and shutter any time soon.
Why is the left insisting on acceptance of some ideals involving sexualizing young kids.Disney still has a number of paedophiles who have been indicted so far.
How would you feel if a school is teaching your below ten year old tomboy kids that they are trapped in the wrong bodies. Your own kids .
Just an example.[/s]

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:18pm On Apr 30, 2022
raumdeuter:
In your image it shows China offers no protection nor recognition for same sex couple,, the same protection that Florida has

Yet Disney is not pulling out of China for it not recognizing same sex couples
"Not recognising", is not the same as "can land you a death sentence", unless you'd want me to have to constantly compensate for you exaggerating, though I'd wonder why you'd require I do any such needless work.

Disney's hypocrisy is obvious in the fact that they edit gayism in or out depending on the market. They edit a lot of racism when it no more sold, and would always do what sells wherever.
https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a27244220/disney-plus-streaming-service-cuts-racist-scenes-dumbo-song-of-the-south/

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:39pm On Apr 30, 2022
budaatum:
"Not recognising", is not the same as "can land you a death sentence", unless you'd want me to have to constantly compensate for you exaggerating, though I'd wonder why you'd require I do any such needless work.

Disney's hypocrisy is obvious in the fact that they edit gayism in or out depending on the market. They edit a lot of racism when it no more sold, and would always do what sells wherever.
https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a27244220/disney-plus-streaming-service-cuts-racist-scenes-dumbo-song-of-the-south/
Point is same sex couples are better off in Florida than in China. Yet Disney is throwing tantrums in Florida and not in China shows their hypocrisy.

If Disney want to be a political actor then get ready for political blowbacks
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:01pm On Apr 30, 2022
Ibime:
A foolish comparison for stupid people. If Covid arrived in US in March 2020 starting from an exponential base of one infected person, and Trump left in Jan 2021, how many supposed to have died in comparison to a 14 month period starting from an exponential base of millions?
You are a Real One.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:08pm On Apr 30, 2022
gambojimeta:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Fagggot homosexuals GQPs

Da hypocrisy

https://twitter.com/AlizaCortes1/status/1519807277213134851?t=h5Y3vTTPjGxpQi8SRVda-A&s=19[/quote]If we open the files of republiqan hyprocrites still in the closet and the number of paedophiles and sexual abusers, they will rename this thread to America Politics Thread - Republican Sexual Abusers and Pedophiles History.
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