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Jashub:
1. You ask very ridiculous questions. In the old and new Testament, Christians as well as Jews offered to God tithes and offering from their labors. This is honest work . And it was called "the first fruit offering ". Now I ask you a question: was this an abomination before God ? If yes, show me a passage to confirm this.

2. Jesus paid taxes . Why ? To set an example for His followers. So why should you not work to fulfill that same example?

3. Women indeed provided for Jesus from their resource(aka labors ) . You can check that out . And if it does not sit well with you, tear it out of your bible .

4. I believe in what Jesus says by reading the whole bible and getting the bigger picture of His message . I do not believe in reading one verse to understand a broader topic that goes beyond an actual Revelation

1. My question to you was , again, Where in scripture is this claim of yours that Honest work is pure/Holy before God lifted from please?

How could the Almighty God contradict His own self so, that I would like to know because He sent Jesus Christ to redeem mankind from the curse He placed on men in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22, curses that rendered the works of man's hand unholy before God.

God never gave to Christians instructions regarding first fruits etc., this since He gave that to the jews alone- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20

2. Jesus Christ never did so to set an example this since instead He said His followers are those who do as He says - those who obey His commandments- , not as He did - John 14 vs 15 & John 15 vs 14

Instead, the commandment which He gave to His followers regarding such things is this, " Give to Caesar what is Ceasar's, and to God what is God's". His followers obey His every commandments.

3. Again, where in Luke 8 vs 3 do you read that these women provided for Jesus Christ from their labors? They could have provided for Him from their former earnings and not from direct labors meaning as followers they, like His disciples, no longer labored for food that perishes. It isn't what is written that I contest here but your conclusion as regards what is written?

4. As I already shown through the discussion, my understanding of what Jesus Christ decreed in John 6 vs 25 - 33 is not drawn from a narrow angle either. So again, why do not believe what Jesus Christ commands to be the Truth of His Gospel? Why do you pretend He should not be taken at His Word?

Kobojunkie:
1. My question to you was , again, Where in scripture is this claim of yours that Honest work is pure/Holy before God lifted from please?

How could the Almighty God contradict His own self so, that I would like to know.

2. Jesus Christ never did so to set an example this since instead He said His followers are those who do as He says - those who obey His commandments- , not as He did - John 14 vs 15 & John 15 vs 14

Instead, the commandment which He gave to His followers regarding such things is this, " Give to Caesar what is Ceasar's, and to God what is God's". His followers obey His every commandments.

3. Again, where in Luke 8 vs 3 do you read that these women provided for Jesus Christ from their labors? They could have provided for Him from their former earnings and not from direct labors meaning as followers they, like His disciples, no longer labored for food that perishes. It isn't what is written that I contest here but your conclusion as regards what is written?

4. As I already shown through the discussion, my understanding of what Jesus Christ decreed in John 6 vs 25 - 33 is not drawn from a narrow angle either. So again, why do not believe what Jesus Christ commands to be the Truth of His Gospel? Why do you pretend He should not be taken at His Word?

I believe Jesus Christ. But you want me to believe your own twisted interpretation of what you are saying , and that is not going to work. Why? Because the bible is my authority. Every word written in it is the final authority by which I live my life. One verse alone is not enough to justify what you are saying...not even one letter, phrase or passage . What will justify your saying is the entire bible.

You denying the scriptures I quoted automatically means that you disagree with what Jesus did and with what His Apostles did . But that is your own headache.

Also, if I choose (from my heart ) to pay tithes or offerings, that is not illegal . Rather I am doing as a response to what my God has given me , it is not sin.

Secondly Jesus did pay taxes to set an example . His entire life was based on wide range of set-examples which we were instructed to follow till date . Which is why He gave commandments. It is impossible to give a command without setting an example.

Jashub:
i believe Jesus Christ. But you want me to believe what you are saying and that is not going to work. Why? Because the bible is my authority. Every word written in it is the final authority. Not one verse , not one letter, phrase or passage ,but the entire bible. You denying the scriptures I quote automatically means that you disagree with what Jesus did and with what His Apostles did . But that is your own headache .

You believe Jesus Christ but you don't believe me. That is actually excellent. So below is what Jesus Christ said.

25 The people found Jesus on the other side of the lake. They asked him, “Teacher, when did you come here?”
26 He answered, “Why are you looking for me? Is it because you saw miraculous signs? The truth is, you are looking for me because you ate the bread and were satisfied. 
27  But earthly food spoils and ruins. So don’t work to get that kind of food. But work to get the food that stays good and gives you eternal life. The Son of Man will give you that food. He is the only one qualified by God the Father to give it to you.”
28 The people asked Jesus, “What does God want us to do?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work God wants you to do is this: to believe in the one he sent.”
30 So the people asked, “What miraculous sign will you do for us? If we can see you do a miracle, then we will believe you. What will you do? 
31 Our ancestors were given manna to eat in the desert. As the Scriptures say, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. - John 6 vs 25 - 31

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

Kobojunkie:
You believe Jesus Christ but you don't believe me. That is actually excellent. So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

Kobo, throw your phone away this minute and follow what is clearly written there. Or else you are a hypocrite

The phone is your possession came as a result of labor . Which you claim is "cursed ". So do us all a favor and throw it away , since you choose to be so heavenly minded .


Also, do not eat food or go to the kitchen since you have "heavenly food " awaiting you . Start a starvation campaign and let's see how committed you are to having the "imperishable food "

Kobojunkie:
You believe Jesus Christ but you don't believe me. That is actually excellent. So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

I’ve told you before that you are an hypocrite.
You are preaching what you don’t practice.
Even with Jesus you claim you have, you are still bitter.

Jashub:
1. Kobo, throw your phone away this minute and follow what is clearly written there. Or else you are a hypocrite
The phone is your possession came as a result of labor . Which you claim is "cursed ". So do us all a favor and throw it away , since you choose to be so heavenly minded .

2. Also, do not eat food or go to the kitchen since you have "heavenly food " awaiting you . Start a starvation campaign and let's see how committed you are to having the "imperishable food "

1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

25 The people found Jesus on the other side of the lake. They asked him, “Teacher, when did you come here?”
26 He answered, “Why are you looking for me? Is it because you saw miraculous signs? The truth is, you are looking for me because you ate the bread and were satisfied. 
27  But earthly food spoils and ruins. So don’t work to get that kind of food. But work to get the food that stays good and gives you eternal life. The Son of Man will give you that food. He is the only one qualified by God the Father to give it to you.”
28 The people asked Jesus, “What does God want us to do?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work God wants you to do is this: to believe in the one he sent.”
30 So the people asked, “What miraculous sign will you do for us? If we can see you do a miracle, then we will believe you. What will you do? 
31 Our ancestors were given manna to eat in the desert. As the Scriptures say, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. - John 6 vs 25 - 31

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

Kobojunkie:
1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

The person that gave you the phone stole it? You are using someone’s else “cursed labor”, it’s even worse.
How do you subscribe for data? They give you too?

Givers shall never lack

You can eat perishable foods but you cannot work for it, oh my

Kobojunkie:
1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

But there’s no where Jesus said you should eat perishable foods. I mean it’s common sense.
If you can’t work for it because it’s not good, then why put it in your body(your god temple) won’t it corrupt it? .
How can you eat foods that spoils and ruins inside your body?
In that verse it states that son of man will give you food, That’s your only source of food.

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Kobojunkie:
1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

[/s] Kobo, tell the person who gave you that phone not to work . In fact, tell him to start doing what you are currently doing and see if his life would be worthy of being called Christ-like, talk more of being called worthy of anything .

Secondly, I am quoting you since you insisted on not working . So why the heck are you talking about emotions when it is obvious that you are confused and contradicting the very thing you claim to preach.


Lastly, I obey the bible. Not your interpretation of the bible . Get that clear

Maynman:
But there’s no where Jesus said you should eat perishable foods. I mean it’s common sense.
If you can’t work for it because it’s not good, then why put it in your body(your god temple) won’t it corrupt it?
In that verse it states that son of man will give you food, That’s your only source of food.

Lol...help me tell him o. The guy is super confused and contradictory

Jashub:
Lol...help me tell him o. The guy is super confused and contradictory

Bro, na woman oo.. bitter one at that.

Maynman:
Bro, na woman oo.. bitter one at that.

Lol...are you sure about that ?

Jashub:
Lol...are you sure about that ?

Of course.

Maynman:
Of course.

I doubt it sha. The chap has always been speaking like a man . But it does not matter

Jashub:
I doubt it sha. The chap has always been speaking like a man . But it does not matter

Maybe for religion section. Yeah right.

Jashub:
1Kobo, tell the person who gave you that phone not to work . In fact, tell him to start doing what you are currently doing and see if his life would be worthy of being called Christ-like, talk more of being called worthy of anything .

2. Secondly, I am quoting you since you insisted on not working . So why the heck are you talking about emotions when it is obvious that you are confused and contradicting the very thing you claim to preach.

3. Lastly, I obey the bible. Not your interpretation of the bible . Get that clear

Again ...1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

25 The people found Jesus on the other side of the lake. They asked him, “Teacher, when did you come here?”
26 He answered, “Why are you looking for me? Is it because you saw miraculous signs? The truth is, you are looking for me because you ate the bread and were satisfied. 
27  But earthly food spoils and ruins. So don’t work to get that kind of food. But work to get the food that stays good and gives you eternal life. The Son of Man will give you that food. He is the only one qualified by God the Father to give it to you.”
28 The people asked Jesus, “What does God want us to do?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work God wants you to do is this: to believe in the one he sent.”
30 So the people asked, “What miraculous sign will you do for us? If we can see you do a miracle, then we will believe you. What will you do? 
31 Our ancestors were given manna to eat in the desert. As the Scriptures say, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. - John 6 vs 25 - 31

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

3. You claim you Obey the Bible, but not a single place in scripture do you find Almighty God giving you such a commandment regarding what is your bible. However, God is written to have, from Heaven, spoken, commanding that you obey Jesus Christ - Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5 - the very one whose commandment you seem adamant to reject. So what reject God all together so you can cling instead to that which He never asked of you to begin with?

Why do you, in one breath, declare you believe Jesus Christ, yet in the other reject Him completely?

Kobojunkie:
Again ...1. But my phone did not come to me as a result of my labor - I didn't work for it. Someone gave it for me.

2. Pay attention please! Jesus Christ did not say that you shouldn't eat perishable food. Instead what He said is you no longer work for perishable food. So let's keep our emotions in check while we are on this please.

Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said.

Right there in verse 27, Jesus Christ tells you that you no longer work for food that perishes but instead worl for food that endures to eternity which only He can give you, which I have been saying from the beginning of this conversation.

So, why do you now believe what Jesus Christ says which is that you don't work for food that perishes?

3. You claim you Obey the Bible, but not a single place in scripture do you find Almighty God giving you such a commandment regarding what is your bible. However, God is written to have, from Heaven, spoken, commanding that you obey Jesus Christ - Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5 - the very one whose commandment you seem adamant to reject. So what reject God all together so you can cling instead to that which He never asked of you to begin with?

Why do you, in one breath, declare you believe Jesus Christ, yet in the other reject Him completely?

Again I ask you to do the following :

Tell the person who gave you that phone not to work . In fact, tell him to start doing what you are currently doing and see if his life would be worthy of being called Christ-like, talk more of being called worthy of anything .

Secondly, I am quoting you since you insisted on not working . So why the heck are you talking about emotions when it is obvious that you are confused and contradicting the very thing you claim to preach.


Furthermore , I obey the bible. Not your interpretation of the bible . Get that clear .

Lastly , tell me if it is a sin to work and pay tithes or offerings to God .

Jashub:
Again I ask you to do the following :

1. Tell the person who gave you that phone not to work . In fact, tell him to start doing what you are currently doing and see if his life would be worthy of being called Christ-like, talk more of being called worthy of anything .

2. Secondly, I am quoting you since you insisted on not working . So why the heck are you talking about emotions when it is obvious that you are confused and contradicting the very thing you claim to preach.

1. Jesus Christ's commandment was given to me, His follower, and not to the person who gave me the phone, who doesn't believe at all. And as far as I know, Jesus Christ never asked us to shove our beliefs down the throats of others. So?

I am the one under obligation, this as a follower of Jesus Christ, to live my life in continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of the one who is my master, Jesus Christ, so it is my life that I ought to make worthy of Him - I am not sent to force Jesus Christ on others.

2. Confused and contradicting?

▪︎ You claimed what you call honest work was Holy to God, this the same God that cursed the very works of man's hands in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 rendering rendering all UNHOLY.
▪︎ You originally claimed you believe what Jesus Christ said, but here you are outrightly refusing to bow to Jesus Christ's commandment.
▪︎ You claim you Obey the Bible, that which God never commanded of you, since instead what He decreed is that you obey Jesus Christ meaning what you do has no connection to what is in fact written in scripture or commanded of God.

I am afraid that when it comes to confusion and contradictions, I don't even have a candle to you in that department.

Again, why do you, in one breath, declare you believe Jesus Christ, yet in the other reject Him completely?

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ's commandment was given to me, His follower, and not to the person who gave me the phone, who doesn't believe at all. And as far as I know, Jesus Christ never asked us to shove our beliefs down the throats of others. So?

I am the one under obligation, this as a follower of Jesus Christ, to live my life in continuous submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of the one who is my master, Jesus Christ, so it is my life that I ought to make worthy of Him - I am not sent to force Jesus Christ on others.

2. Confused and contradicting?

▪︎ You claimed what you call honest work was Holy to God, this the same God that cursed the very works of man's hands in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 rendering rendering all UNHOLY.
▪︎ You originally claimed you believe what Jesus Christ said, but here you are outrightly refusing to bow to Jesus Christ's commandment.
▪︎ You claim you Obey the Bible, that which God never commanded of you, since instead what He decreed is that you obey Jesus Christ meaning what you do has no connection to what is in fact written in scripture or commanded of God.

I am afraid that when it comes to confusion and contradictions, I don't even have a candle to you in that department.

Again, why do you, in one breath, declare you believe Jesus Christ, yet in the other reject Him completely?

You are in self-delusion , but this is normal for people who believe in their own folly .

1. You never met Jesus Christ ; you only were told about Him by the bible which the apostles wrote . And those are the same apostles you now discredit because they mentioned work, which does not sit well with your twisted interpretation.


2. You are not obeying Jesus, rather you are obeying the dictates of your heart which are inclined to believing what you turn as right or wrong . Which again boils down to folly.

3. You are contrary and confused . In one post, you mentioned that work is "cursed ", yet you are using a phone that someone gave you . Is that not contrary to what you preach ? How hypocritical can you get ...?


4. I already asked you if paying of tithes and offerings is a sin , and you are yet to answer me on this. Why? I shall tell you : it is because you know (in your heart) that it is not a sin, but because you love pointless arguments , you want to justify it without sound scriptural foundations.

5. I obey Jesus . And I do that by reading the bible and following what He believed in . If you recall, Jesus believed in the old Testament, and for me to pretend that it does not exist, or that its precepts are eradicated , will only make me a fool like you.

Jashub:
Lastly , tell me if it is a sin to work and pay tithes or offerings to God .

Sin is as decreed by God's Law and commandments to us.. It isn't arbitrarily defined. Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said .I.e. His commandment to His followers.

25 The people found Jesus on the other side of the lake. They asked him, “Teacher, when did you come here?”
26 He answered, “Why are you looking for me? Is it because you saw miraculous signs? The truth is, you are looking for me because you ate the bread and were satisfied. 
27  But earthly food spoils and ruins. So don’t work to get that kind of food. But work to get the food that stays good and gives you eternal life. The Son of Man will give you that food. He is the only one qualified by God the Father to give it to you.”
28 The people asked Jesus, “What does God want us to do?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work God wants you to do is this: to believe in the one he sent.”
30 So the people asked, “What miraculous sign will you do for us? If we can see you do a miracle, then we will believe you. What will you do? 
31 Our ancestors were given manna to eat in the desert. As the Scriptures say, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat. - John 6 vs 25 - 31

Given that Jesus Christ indeed commands that you not work for food that perishes, any work of this kind is sin against God.

Kobojunkie:
Sin is as decreed by God's Law and commandments to us.. It isn't arbitrarily defined. Again, So below is what Jesus Christ said .I.e. His commandment to His followers.
Given that Jesus Christ indeed commands that you not work for food that perishes, any work of this kind is sin against God.

Have you eaten lunch yet?

Jashub:
You are in self-delusion , but this is normal for people who believe in their own folly .

1. You never met Jesus Christ ; you only were told about Him by the bible which the apostles wrote . And those are the same apostles you now discredit because they mentioned work, which does not sit well with your twisted interpretation.

2. You are not obeying Jesus, rather you are obeying the dictates of your heart which are inclined to believing what you turn as right or wrong . Which again boils down to folly.

3. You are contrary and confused . In one post, you mentioned that work is "cursed ", yet you are using a phone that someone gave you . Is that not contrary to what you preach ? How hypocritical can you get ...?


4. I already asked you if paying of tithes and offerings is a sin , and you are yet to answer me on this. Why? I shall tell you : it is because you know (in your heart) that it is not a sin, but because you love pointless arguments , you want to justify it without sound scriptural foundations.

5. I obey Jesus . And I do that by reading the bible and following what He believed in . If you recall, Jesus believed in the old Testament, and for me to pretend that it does not exist, or that its precepts are eradicated , will only make me a fool like you.

1. I am sorry what?

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4. Ofcourse it is sin to pretend to follow God's Old Covenant when you by mouth claim to be of Jesus Christ. For one it means you don't believe what God declared in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 about His Old agreement being only for those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins. This in addition to violating Jesus Christ's instructions that you not serve two Masters in the Kingdom of God, the Old Law being one master while Jesus Christ the another.

5. You obey Jesus Christ by words, but you reject His commandments?

Kobojunkie:
1. I am sorry what?

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4. Ofcourse it is sin to pretend to follow God's Old Covenant when you by mouth claim to be of Jesus Christ. For one it means you don't believe what God declared in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 about His Old agreement being only for those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins. This in addition to violating Jesus Christ's instructions that you not serve two Masters in the Kingdom of God, the Old Law being one master while Jesus Christ the another.

5. You obey Jesus Christ by words, but you reject His commandments?

You are more confused than I thought.

The phone in your hand was given by someone who labored much. So why did you not tell that person that it was cursed ? Why did you collect it ? Hypocrite !


Tithes and offerings is not a sin. For if it were, it would have been mentioned in scripture. In fact, Christians in the new Testament gave far more than tithes; they sold everything they had, and came to drop them in the church for the sake of God's work . You can argue this with Acts 4:34-37.

Lastly, and I will say it again, I obey and follow the bible , which happens to be a compendium of Jesus words and His beliefs.

Jashub:
You are more confused than I thought.

1. The phone in your hand was given by someone who labored much. So why did you not tell that person that it was cursed ? Why did you collect it ? Hypocrite !

2. Tithes and offerings is not a sin. For if it were, it would have been mentioned in scripture. In fact, Christians in the new Testament gave far more than tithes; they sold everything they had, and came to drop them in the church for the sake of God's work . You can argue this with Acts 4:34-37.

3. Lastly, and I will say it again, I obey and follow the bible , which happens to be a compendium of Jesus words and His beliefs.

1. Pay attention and stop letting your emotions get the better of you.

Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

3. God never asked you to obey the bible, neither did you instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- Je was that specific. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands so how can it be said of Him??

Kobojunkie:
1. Pay attention and stop letting your emotions get the better of you.

Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

3. God never asked you to obey the bible, neither did you instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- Je was that specific. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands so how can it be said of Him??

I will still make mention of the first point in my last post because it itches you:

Why did you not tell that person that the phone (which was a product of work ) was cursed ? Why did you collect a "cursed " item ? Or is that not hypocrisy?

Where in scripture is it written that tithes and offerings are now sins ? Please quote the verse along with the necessary passages to validate this claim of yours .

If God did not tell me to obey the bible , then how would I know the mind of God ? How then can I discern between right and wrong ...or how would I know about Jesus ? Can you see how ridiculous you sound...

Jashub:
I will still make mention of the first point in my last post because it itches you:

Why did you not tell that person that the phone (which was a product of work ) was cursed ? Why did you collect a "cursed " item ? Or is that not hypocrisy?

2. Where in scripture is it written that tithes and offerings are now sins ? Please quote the verse along with the necessary passages to validate this claim of yours .

3. If God did not tell me to obey the bible , then how would I know the mind of God ? How then can I discern between right and wrong ...or how would I know about Jesus ? Can you see how ridiculous you sound...

1. Again...Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

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Since you seem to be having a hard time with this let me explain. God's plan is not and was never to make those who followers Holy by removing them from unholiness - this world. He sent Jesus Christ down to this same world to live, did He not? Yet living in this world did not make Jesus Christ unholy this because Jesus Christ instead live His life in submission of God's commandments and Will. He wasn't tainted by using the things built by the hands of men neither was He made impure by eating food from their unholy labors.

God's plan is pretty straightforward - Holiness through obedience of His commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 33.

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2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

God never gave you tithes and offerings for a commandment to begin. So pretending to do in God's name that which God never asked of you is sin against God. It amounts to adding commandments to God’s Law which He gave to you.

3. Again, God never asked you to obey the bible,the book, neither did He instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- He was that specific in Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands and is written right there in the book you claim to obey, so how can it be said of Him??

Kobojunkie:
1. Again...Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

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Since you seem to be having a hard time with this let me explain. God's plan is not and was never to make those who followers Holy by removing them from unholiness - this world. He sent Jesus Christ down to this same world to live, did He not? Yet living in this world did not make Jesus Christ unholy this because Jesus Christ instead live His life in submission of God's commandments and Will. He wasn't tainted by using the things built by the hands of men neither was He made impure by eating food from their unholy labors.

God's plan is pretty straightforward - Holiness through obedience of His commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 33.

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2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

God never gave you tithes and offerings for a commandment to begin. So pretending to do in God's name that which God never asked of you is sin against God. It amounts to adding commandments to God’s Law which He gave to you.

3. Again, God never asked you to obey the bible,the book, neither did He instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- He was that specific in Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands and is written right there in the book you claim to obey, so how can it be said of Him??

So why did you not reject the phone , why collect what is cursed and abominable? Why pretend to preach what you yourself deem sin ? Or is that not hypocrisy?.


2. Where is it written that offerings and tithes are now sins ? Please provide scriptural references and stop inserting your garb that makes absolutely no sense.


3. God said " on this book of law shall you mediated day and night, that it might go well with you and you may have success " (Joshua 1:. So why should I not obey the bible when God has commanded in serval passages to obey it.

Jashub:
1. So why did you not reject the phone , why collect what is cursed and abominable? Why pretend to preach what you yourself deem sin ? Or is that not hypocrisy?.

2. Where is it written that offerings and tithes are now sins ? Please provide scriptural references and stop inserting your garb that makes absolutely no sense.

3. God said " on this book of law shall you mediated day and night, that it might go well with you and you may have success " (Joshua 1:.

4. So why should I not obey the bible when God has commanded in serval passages to obey it.

1. Again...Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

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Since you seem to be having a hard time with this let me explain. God's plan is not and was never to make those who followers Holy by removing them from unholiness - this world. He sent Jesus Christ down to this same world to live, did He not? Yet living in this world did not make Jesus Christ unholy this because Jesus Christ instead live His life in submission of God's commandments and Will. He wasn't tainted by using the things built by the hands of men neither was He made impure by eating food from their unholy labors.

God's plan is pretty straightforward - Holiness through obedience of His commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 33.

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2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

God never gave you tithes and offerings for a commandment to begin. So pretending to do in God's name that which God never asked of you is sin against God. It amounts to adding commandments to God’s Law which He gave to you.

3. Since when did your Bible become known as the "Book of the Law"? Also, since you quote from Joshua, that means you don't pay credence to what God said in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 then?.

4. Again, God never asked you to obey the bible,the book, neither did He instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- He was that specific in Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands and is written right there in the book you claim to obey, so how can it be said of Him??

Kobojunkie:
1. Again...Jesus Christ's, the one sent to Redeem us from God's curse, explicit instructions to His followers is that they don't work for food that perishes. Not that we go shove our beliefs on others. What Jesus Christ declared sin is our working for perishable food. Simple as that!

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Since you seem to be having a hard time with this let me explain. God's plan is not and was never to make those who followers Holy by removing them from unholiness - this world. He sent Jesus Christ down to this same world to live, did He not? Yet living in this world did not make Jesus Christ unholy this because Jesus Christ instead live His life in submission of God's commandments and Will. He wasn't tainted by using the things built by the hands of men neither was He made impure by eating food from their unholy labors.

God's plan is pretty straightforward - Holiness through obedience of His commandments - John 8 vs 31 - 33.

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2. Again, tithes and offering are of God's Old Law given explicitly to the children of Israel by God - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the very same Law God then sent Jesus Christ to redeem the children of Israel from. So, your tithing and offerings have nothing to do with that which God has commanded of you so it is sin to claim to do it in God's name cause He also warned to add commandments to His Law.

God never gave you tithes and offerings for a commandment to begin. So pretending to do in God's name that which God never asked of you is sin against God. It amounts to adding commandments to God’s Law which He gave to you.

3. Since when did your Bible become known as the "Book of the Law"? Also, since you quote from Joshua, that means you don't pay credence to what God said in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 then?.

4. Again, God never asked you to obey the bible,the book, neither did He instruct you obey anything else but Jesus Christ- He was that specific in Luke 9 vs 35 & Mark 9 vs 7 & Matthew 17 vs 1 - 5. So your claim does not align with that God in fact commands and is written right there in the book you claim to obey, so how can it be said of Him??

Still eluding the questions. But I will post them because they are the truth :

Why did you keep the phone that was paid for through sweat and labor , why collect what you say is cursed and abominable? Why preach what you do not practice ? Or is that not hypocrisy?.


2. Where in scripture is it written that offerings and tithes are now sins ? Please provide valid scriptural references , and while you are at it , stop inserting your garb that makes absolutely no sense or meaning to the discussion at hand .


3. God said " on this book of law shall you mediated day and night, that it might go well with you and you may have success " (Joshua 1:8.) So why should I not obey the bible when God has commanded in several passages to obey it.

Why are you telling me to disobey my God since you do not like the bible ?