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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Janosky: 3:21pm On May 05, 2022
Hismasterpiece:


Lol @ 12. Both believes the Bible to be authority but interpretation of their prophets / governing body is more authority. grin grin.. So true.. But MaxInDHouse Cornelboy and Janosky disagree with you.. grin grin grin
JWs worldwide reject Trinity because of John 20:17.
Oga, bring EVIDENCE to convince this forum that John 20:17 is from the Governing Body.
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by cornelboy(f): 3:24pm On May 05, 2022
achorladey:


Like the following below from their publications....

1.

All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

2.

At times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us. However, Jehovah blesses obedience


Which authority or interpretation do you follow cheesy cheesy
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:30pm On May 05, 2022
tctrills:
This is one of the best-written posts on Nairaland devoid of criticism and very well researched. I wouldn't be surprised to see mini battles begin here for no reason. The LDS are very quiet on Nairaland. they don't seem to talk very much on this forum. It would have been nice to get a few of them to talk deep about doctrine and religion.

As for our JW brothers, I can bet they are already on the thread.

But this time, it would be nice to hear from LDS for a change.

You will definitely cash out when you place the bet

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:33pm On May 05, 2022
Janosky:


Does Hebrews 13:7,17 makes sense to Achorladey from a human standpoint?

Where in Hebrews 13:7,17 was it stated that obey those taking the lead when they give direction that does not make sense to you?

Where e dey? grin grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:38pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:


Using the early church doctrines as standard, why don't you compare churches existing today to the early church and let's see which church is actually following the Bible and doing God's will?

Awon better performing performance group peddler decides to go the way of compare them to the early church and let's see.

grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by cornelboy(f): 3:41pm On May 05, 2022
achorladey:


Awon better performing performance group peddler decides to go the way of compare them to the early church and let's see.

grin grin grin grin grin grin

Leave me o. cheesy cheesy
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:41pm On May 05, 2022
No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17

JEHOVAH and His WITNESSES! smiley

Please where are the so called LDS nah?
Àbí they're like their gods? Psalms 115:4-8 undecided

Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:42pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:

Leave me o. cheesy cheesy
For worthless, baseless, useless and fruitless arguments,
Customer dada ni! cheesy
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by cornelboy(f): 3:44pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

For worthless, baseless, useless and fruitless arguments,
Customer dada ni! cheesy
I no wan patronise today cheesy

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:47pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Most people just love deceiving themselves.

For instance he said "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the authority of the Governing Body is higher than what the Bible says"

If only he understands what's written in the Bible book of Daniel 12:10 and compare with Matthew 24:45

The first century Jewish religionists also believes that Jesus carried his own words above God's word {John 5:18} that's why they were killing his disciples because they felt Jesus is an impostor who came to put his own words above God's.

So if that's another accusation against Jehovah's people it's a welcome development! Matthew 10:25 smiley

Most people just love deceiving themselves.

We know you and your likes don't deal in the business of deception. grin cheesy grin

For instance he said "Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the authority of the Governing Body is higher than what the Bible says"

You know numerous publications out there can testify to it. Anyone that don't accept whatever your religious leaders teach even when it does not make sense to you that is being taught must see such ones who go against them as persons leading others to sin even when they decide to to change mouth in the future that those things that don't make sense indeed is senseless. grin grin grin

If only he understands what's written in the Bible book of Daniel 12:10 and compare with Matthew 24:45

Oga intelligence officer what is in Daniel and Matthew that states your religious leaders should feed Jesus sheep what does not make sense?

The first century Jewish religionists also believes that Jesus carried his own words above God's word {John 5:18} that's why they were killing his disciples because they felt Jesus is an impostor who came to put his own words above God's.

Irrelevant comparison.

So if that's another accusation against Jehovah's people it's a welcome development! Matthew 10:25

Playing the true disciple, victim and persecution card game grin grin grin grin grin


It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

When you go about calling others demons and all sorts of names you forget Matthew 10:25 and that those people you call are servants to that Lord. grin grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:48pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:


Leave me o. cheesy cheesy

I hold you before. Baba japa at your will.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 3:54pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

For worthless, baseless, useless and fruitless arguments,
Customer dada ni! cheesy

When it dance to your tune, it is not worthless.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Hismasterpiece(m): 4:07pm On May 05, 2022
achorladey:


Like the following below from their publications....

1.

All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

2.

At times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us. However, Jehovah blesses obedience


Ehen! MaxInDHouse you dey hear? grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19pm On May 05, 2022
Hismasterpiece:

Ehen! MaxInDHouse you dey hear? grin grin

Ask them say what is the name of their own Church, this is about JW and LDS! cheesy
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Emusan(m): 5:06pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:


Leave me o. cheesy cheesy

Yet you won't leave cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Emusan(m): 5:07pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Ask them say what is the name of their own Church, this is about JW and LDS! cheesy

You can't deny you don't know the name of our church. cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 5:32pm On May 05, 2022
Janosky:


Courz THOROUGHLY FAILED to convince any Freemason with his Mumu, FALSEHOOD.

Why is Watchtower participating in politics? Why did Watchtower not inform you JWs that Watchtower is NOT a religion But a BUSINESS CORPORATION? Why are you an APOSTATE by following an organisation that is not only a Freemason organisation but a Business Corporation? Why is it that your voluntary contributions are shared amongst the Shareholders of the company?

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 5:39pm On May 05, 2022
Janosky:


Courz THOROUGHLY FAILED to convince any Freemason with his Mumu, FALSEHOOD.

Why is Watchtower maintaining and running International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that is now regarded as Apostate religion? Why does Watchtower own and run a Freemason corporation that still sticks to the teachings of Charles Taze Russell, opposer of Christ, and this same Freemason Cult do their meetings in Masonic Lodges?

Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 6:05pm On May 05, 2022
achorladey:


Even the place they gather for their religious activities.

True. Have you seen how LDS have their conventions? Same thing with JWs. They also wear the same convention badges with the same manner of dressing.

You know what I think? I think these Freemason founders had some kind of coven meeting where CULT HANDBOOKS were shared to them to follow or maybe they were trained on how to start their respective Cults. All Freemason founders run their Cults the same way.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 6:06pm On May 05, 2022
cornelboy:


Leave me o. cheesy cheesy

I no hold you jare. Na to japa as you wish. grin grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09pm On May 05, 2022
At last it's only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that could speak for their God and critics of JWs are also our usual "Customer dada ni"

Please where are the LDS people o? cheesy

Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 6:11pm On May 05, 2022
Janosky:

Continue deceiving yourself typing GIBBERISH.

Typing ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE na your area of specialisation and deception peddling your company. grin grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 6:16pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
At last it's only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that could speak for their God and critics of JWs are also our usual "Customer dada ni"

Please where are the LDS people o? cheesy

Owo alabara ati alagabta wa niyin grin grin grin
Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by achorladey: 6:19pm On May 05, 2022
Emusan:


You can't deny you don't know the name of our church. cheesy grin wink grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Atleast he knows all of the them according to their religious beliefs are classified as babylon the great, christendom or false Christians grin grin grin.

When their religious organization is compared with LDS one of them ran to early church in the first century. Running pillar to post as usual to save their face.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21pm On May 05, 2022
Instead of LDS to show up for their GOD it's the our usual "Customer dada ni"
Èèṣí ò! embarassed

Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 6:33pm On May 05, 2022
If you go to EXJW and ExMormon/LDS reddit forums, you will be shocked at how similar their experiences in their respective Cults have been. In fact, both forums call themselves CULT COUSINS. It's like they were raised in the same Family. Even ExMormons/LDS come to ExJW forums and give comments about how similar they are. Do you know that in the U. S, if JWs are Preaching in an area and Mormons are already in that area Preaching, they turn around and leave Asap! grin grin
Also, when Mormons are Preaching in an area, people begin to talk with them as if they are JWs but the Mormons quickly correct them and say "We are NOT JWs. We are Mormons". grin grin

Cousins from the same cloth. Same family. grin grin

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On May 05, 2022
IDENTITY of the worshipers of the true God!

©They will become fully competent and completely equipped in making use of the SPIRITUAL SWORD (Bible) 2Timothy 3:16-17; Ephesians 6:12-17

©They will use the Bible to catch men alive throughout the world {Luke 5:10} and disarm them with the power from God's word! Hebrews 4:12

©They will gather them to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

©They will have the same line of thought throughout the earth {John 17:22} and everyone will say "they love their members" John 13:34-35

©They are in the forefront preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in all their neighbourhood what their God says! Matthew 28:19-20

©They will silence all other religions when it comes to intelligence so that no other religion will have the confidence to mention the name of their religion in opposition! Isaiah 54:17

©Throughout the world people will always talk about them whenever they're trying to measure fine WORKS! Matthew 5:13-16

©They will be the one and only group producing the fruitage members can boast of anywhere they go! Matthew 7:16-18

Sorry OP you're making a totally wrong comparison, you can't compare a living GOD to the dead gods. Psalms 115:4-8
If the group is not JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES they can never ever be like JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley

Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 7:21pm On May 05, 2022
Comments from ExMormons who were asked which religion is Worse: JWs or LDS/Mormons.

JWs definitely.
Mormons can get graduate degrees from church-sponsored (and subsidized) institutions of higher education. They tend to be wealthier, healthier, and better educated than the general population and are over-represented politically---opposite of their JW counterparts.

Mormons celebrate holidays. Their list of disciplinable sins is much shorter. Medical treatment is encouraged. Pledge of allegiance, national anthem, political participation, etc. Mormons can in many ways blend in with and succeed in broader culture, in spite of the refraining from coffee, tea, and alcohol.

Mormons do not have a formal policy of shunning. Ex-Mormons are (by my observation) more numerous, better funded, and better organized for those who wish to get out of the religion.

That said, the similarities are very numerous. Both have real issues. Both make you "weird" relative to the rest of society, JWs only more-so.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 7:22pm On May 05, 2022
More comments..

JWs without a doubt. I grew up Mormon and left as a young adult. I met a JW and converted for him. Biggest mistake of my life. I would classify The Mormon Church as a high control religion while the JWs are without a doubt a cult. The LDS Church does in fact set a standard for its members and have some quirky temple rituals but the control the JW religion has on its congregation is much scarier. They instill fear in the rank and file in a way that the Mormons do not. Oh and the blood policy, that’s the icing on the cake.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 7:27pm On May 05, 2022
Another comment. I think this is an ExJW.

Jehovah's Witnesses are worse. Yes, LDS is also a dangerous cult, but at least they are less extreme, less demanding, less controlling and they know how to have fun. It's better to avoid them both, but if you would have to choose, don't go for witnesses.

Another comment

JW's are worse. All stick, no carrot. Mormons - internal charity, socialization for kids, right of passage missions, BY University. JW Organization has almost no benefits or positives.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by Courz: 7:28pm On May 05, 2022
Another

As an excommunicated Mormon, who has also studied the Bible with JWs for a few months (I did an interview with your member "True Faced" on youtube--I now have my own youtube channel 'Freed From Mormonism'), I can say for a certainty that JWs are MUCH worse.

Don't get me wrong, I'm focused on exposing my former faith. However, I will give the Quorum of the 12 Apostles some credit vs the JWs 'Governing Body'. The word Governing Body doesn't even appear in the Bible.

The Quorum of the 12 Apostles, at the very least, have the sense of mind to know that NO CHILD is ever going to have 2 Witnesses in a case of child molestation. One thing I didn't mention in my interview with the True Faced channel (there's only so much you can put on a 1.5 hour video), is when I talked to the JW Elder about child molestation, and he told me the Bible requires 2 eye witnesses, I told him to show my one scripture in the Bible to show Jesus would have kept the identity of a pedophile 'confidential' from his disciples, and I'll take back everything I've said....he was speechless. Look at the way Jesus dealt with Judas Iscariote, did he keep it confidential? What about when he threw the people doing business in the temple out? If threw them out, what do you think he would do with a pedophile? Your JW Elder had nothing to say.

I'll be the first to admit that that LDS Church has not always handled the issue appropriately. However, they DO cooperate with Police when a serious accusation of child abuse comes up, which is a big difference for JWs. When Church Bishops meet with the youth to 'assess their worthinesss', Church policy now states that parents be present with their child during these meetings. (To participate in the Temple Endowment Ceremonies, you have to have a recommendation from your Bishop, and you get a recommendation by meeting with the Bishop, and he will 'assess your worthiness' to see if you can participate in the Temple Ceremonies).

You will also find on the LDS's website what is called 'Gospel Topic Essays', and they are coming forth with their history and, yes, they're being transparent/honest about it. In this way, if someone decides to become an LDS Member, you can no longer say 'we didn't know this, we didn't know that.," So now, the responsibility rests on the member to do their research and be fully informed before becoming a member of the LDS. This is in BIG contrast to JWs who have 're-written' their history and then lied about it.

The Mormon Church doesn't ban higher education, they encourage it.

The Mormon Church does ban caffeine, but they don't have a ban on blood.

I also found the Mormon Church to be a much healthier environment for the youth. The Mormon Church encourages youth the become involved with your community. JWs feel that being involved with your community means you 'part of the world'.

The Mormon Church is not having financial difficulties like JWs are who are selling properties, etc.. The Mormon Church is expanding the construction of Temples throughout the world v.s. selling them.

The Mormon Church doesn't have any written policies on shunning, but I do see that changing in time. Just recently, they came out and said restoration of the Church is not complete, changes are coming. I do see them locking down on shunning.

There's a lot I can say about my experience in the Mormon Church. However, JWs are far worse.

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Re: Simple Similarities And Differences Between Jehovah's Witnesses And LDS by cornelboy(f): 7:41pm On May 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

For worthless, baseless, useless and fruitless arguments,
Customer dada ni! cheesy

I must run o cheesy

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