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Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:16pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
The bold is you dictating what women can do and cannot do with their body.
I said, "should", Ben, open your eyes and see please. And in English, if you are told you should do or not do something, it is usually not considered that you have been dictated to.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:17pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Creepy. You now support selling of kids like they sell goats. Poor you.
I expect that to be your understanding, Ben. Thankfully brainier people are here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:18pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
Ben, can you not see that it is the woman aborting who I am claiming should decide? That is the meaning of my body my choice, and not your's nor anyone else's

Most women would have decided long before the foetus is viable if they want to abort or not, Ben, and the longer they keep it they more likely they'll get to term as you well should know. Still, if she decides to abort up to the day before she gives birth, then her body her choice, though thankfully democracy does not allow such extremes, but nor should it impose some silly unworkable anything less than 3 - 5 months, is my opinion if you care to know instead of making crap up in your head..
The bold up there compared to your words below shows how you talk from both sides of your mouth.

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances
How does this quote imply that women should decide when you are clearly saying the opposite to be what you believe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:22pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
I said, "should", Ben, open your eyes and see please. And in English, if you are told you should do or not do something, it is usually not considered that you have been dictated to.
Should or whatever word you want to use... You still have an opinion that women should not be having abortion after certain stage. So again, when does my body my choice stops?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:28pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Should or whatever word you want to use... You still have an opinion that women should not be having abortion after certain stage. So again, when does my body my choice stops?
It stops when you the owner of the body decides it stops, Ben, that's the meaning of my body my choice.

For my body I decide, and for your body you decide. I don't decide for your body and you don't decide for my body.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:28pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
The bold up there compared to your words below shows how you talk from both sides of your mouth.



How does this quote imply that women should decide when you are clearly saying the opposite to be what you believe.
I think the English language is a challenge for you.
Try harder, Ben.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:29pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
I expect that to be your understanding, Ben. Thankfully brainier people are here.
Maybe you need to learn how to be humane in how you talk about things like this.

You are forced to take care of your child or forced against selling your child. Just because someone does it and was not caught does not mean they are not being forced to take care of the child. It is common sense.

Giving your child to your family member to help you raise is still you taking care of the child with the help of your family.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:31pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
I think the English language is a challenge for you.
Try harder, Ben.
Na... It is you who is telling women what you think they shouldn't be doing at a certain stage of their pregnancy.... Contrary to the my body my choice. They should do whatever they please.

It's a contradiction. Maybe you don't understand your own language
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:35pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
It stops when you the owner of the body decides it stops, Ben, that's the meaning of my body my choice.

For my body I decide, and for your body you decide. I don't decide for your body and you don't decide for my body.
You know this and advocate for it yet you still open your mouth to say the below:

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances
It means either do woman don't do it with their own accord or the state or government stops it.

Either way, you think it should not be happening yet you say it should happen, their body their choice.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:39pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Na... It is you who is telling women what you think they shouldn't be doing at a certain stage of their pregnancy.... Contrary to the my body my choice. They should do whatever they please.

It's a contradiction. Maybe you don't understand your own language
Sigh!

I can have an opinion without imposing it on anyone, Ben, and no one is here claiming buda has told them what they can or can not do except you who don't even have a womb!

As I said, she can decide to abort the day before she gives birth if she wants and not much can be done about it, but I'm glad democracy, as in, we the people, generally agree on about 4-6 months, and longer under circumstances that the owner of the body gets to determine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:43pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
Sigh!

I can have an opinion without imposing it on anyone, Ben, and no one is here claiming buda has told them what they can or can not do except you who don't even have a womb!

As I said, she can decide to abort the day before she gives birth if she wants and not much can be done about it, but I'm glad democracy, as in, we the people, generally agree on about 4-6 months, and longer under circumstances that the owner of the body gets to determine.
Like the opinion you have that they can have abortion because it's their body their choice which contradicts the other opinion you have that they should not be having abortion after certain time.

Buda... I think abortion should happen in the first 10 weeks. That's a reasonable stance to take... But you want the extreme. Most people accept a window, only 27% want it at anytime.

Let her decide that na in Texas. Except she is not caught all hell will be done about it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:44pm On May 05, 2022
Also buda, 9 in 10 people who do abortion do it in the first 10 weeks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:46pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
It means either do woman don't do it with their own accord or the state or government stops it.

Either way, you think it should not be happening yet you say it should happen, their body their choice.
I think murder should not be happening nor should theft, but do you hear anyone tell you buda commanded them not to kill nor steal?

The bit about this argument you fail to recognise is that the woman will always "do it with their own accord" if she wants to and there's absolutely nothing you or the state can do about it. She can after all be 9 months pregnant and neither you nor the state may know she is!

But I suppose we can introduce government issued licenses to pregnant women so a record can be kept I guess. We can call it a get pregnant licence, and any one without one is illegally pregnant. It would fit nicely with voters Id, I think.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:48pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Like the opinion you have that they can have abortion because it's their body their choice which contradicts the other opinion you have that they should not be having abortion after certain time.
Ben. You can have your abortion whenever you want please. It's your body and it's your choice!
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:49pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Also buda, 9 in 10 people who do abortion do it in the first 10 weeks.
I was exaggerating when I said longer, ben. Most wouldn't wait longer than 3 months
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 9:52pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
I think murder should not be happening nor should theft, but do you hear anyone tell you buda commanded them not to kill nor steal?

The bit about this argument you fail to recognise is that the woman will always "do it with their own accord" if she wants to and there's absolutely nothing you or the state can do about it. She can after all be 9 months pregnant and neither you nor the state may know she is!

But I suppose we can introduce government issued licenses to pregnant women so a record can be kept I guess. We can call it a get pregnant licence, and any one without one is illegally pregnant. It would fit nicely with voters Id, I think.
Lmao. Failed attempt to make sense.

Yet the women are crying and protesting my body my choice. Do you know what freedom is? Freedom to kill, freedom to steal.

When you understand that, you will know you are talking nonsense
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:55pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Like the opinion you have that they can have abortion because it's their body their choice which contradicts the other opinion you have that they should not be having abortion after certain time.

Buda... I think abortion should happen in the first 10 weeks. That's a reasonable stance to take... But you want the extreme. Most people accept a window, only 27% want it at anytime.

Let her decide that na in Texas. Except she is not caught all hell will be done about it.
Now, imagine me claiming you are commanding what you think. Don't you think it would be absurd to assume you had any such powers as to impose your opinion on anyone?

If I want to abort in a timeframe unacceptable in Texas, I just do what has always been done and go abort in a state that has an acceptable timeframe, Ben. It's the United States of America after all, where money does all the talking.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:58pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
Lmao. Failed attempt to make sense.

Yet the women are crying and protesting my body my choice. Do you know what freedom is? Freedom to kill, freedom to steal.

When you understand that, you will know you are talking nonsense
So, a person who wants to abort wants to also kill and steal, Ben?

I wonder. Do they kill and steal less if they abort in the 10 weeks you find acceptable I wonder, or is ok to murder a ten week foetus but not an 11 week one because the 10 week fortus is not a person yet?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 10:30pm On May 05, 2022
benalvino3:
He is playing the game but it's the left that are losing their mind.

Yesterday they attacked Dave Chappelle on stage.
Stop being sensational. One man attacked the dude on stage. Where did you see they or you think the man is non binary or what?
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by sanpipita(m): 10:39pm On May 05, 2022
budaatum:
So, a person who wants to abort wants to also kill and steal, Ben?

I wonder. Do they kill and steal less if they abort in the 10 weeks you find acceptable I wonder, or is ok to murder a ten week foetus but not an 11 week one because the 10 week fortus is not a person yet?
Take a look at anti vaxxers and mask mandate they were actually wanting to have freedom to kill people, most transmitted covid to others.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 10:42pm On May 05, 2022
Biden doing all the right things we thought a black president would do.
See why the racists republiqan heads are exploding?

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by sanpipita(m): 10:43pm On May 05, 2022
Debates after debates just because your body isn't being regulated, just to wear mask people rioted, but pregnancy that last 9 months is apparently no big deal even if it's unwanted, note people rioted against vaccines and masks because they didn't want it.

Let's try regulate male bodies and see if some of you will have energy for these debates
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by BasedUsername: 10:51pm On May 05, 2022
sanpipita:
Debates after debates just because your body isn't being regulated, just to wear mask people rioted, but pregnancy that last 9 months is apparently no big deal even if it's unwanted, note people rioted against vaccines and masks because they didn't want it.

Let's try regulate male bodies and see if some of you will have energy for these debates
Military draft, circumcision.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Obrigardo: 11:11pm On May 05, 2022
I had to take the strength to watch that Don.jr video after skipping it many times and oh my..
The boy is clearly on drugs and high asf.. He's clearly rockers and out of his mind.. Cocaine!

Watch this and tell me don. trump jnr. is not HIGH

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by saxywale1: 12:40am On May 06, 2022
BasedUsername:
Military draft, circumcision.
Military draft for women was opposed by the republicans

Circumcision? Liberal whites and even Africans don't care about cutting babies. It's usually a Christian (conservative) and Jewish practice.

It's funny to see Nigerians in the USA always searching for Jewish doctors in America to help them with circumcision of male kids. If they had there way, same would be done to female babies.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/12/08/lawmakers-kill-provision-requiring-women-register-draft/6433960001/

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by saxywale1:
sanpipita:
Debates after debates just because your body isn't being regulated, just to wear mask people rioted, but pregnancy that last 9 months is apparently no big deal even if it's unwanted, note people rioted against vaccines and masks because they didn't want it.

Let's try regulate male bodies and see if some of you will have energy for these debates
Vasectomy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:06am On May 06, 2022
Budaatum talks like Famous Five and Secret Seven, always inserting familiarity after every sentence. Give Benalvino a good konk on the head and stop that Enid Blyton talk.
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by chopnaira: 1:36am On May 06, 2022
Kikikikikikiki
sanpipita:
Debates after debates just because your body isn't being regulated, just to wear mask people rioted, but pregnancy that last 9 months is apparently no big deal even if it's unwanted, note people rioted against vaccines and masks because they didn't want it.

Let's try regulate male bodies and see if some of you will have energy for these debates

Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by armyofone(m): 5:10am On May 06, 2022
chopnaira:
Kikikikikikiki
The one that chop 9 or more in a week, spreading the "swimming tadpoles" should be the top of the news.

Kikikikikikiki grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by chopnaira: 5:28am On May 06, 2022
armyofone:
The one that chop 9 or more in a week, spreading the "swimming tadpoles" should be the top of the news.

Kikikikikikiki grin
Fa pets andi farms animals, we ah castrate da boys,

buti fa humans beans, we ah try ta castrate da girls grin

Kikikikikikiki
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by armyofone(m): 5:43am On May 06, 2022
chopnaira:
Fa pets andi farms animals, we ah castrate da boys,

buti fa humans beans, we ah try ta castrate da girls grin

Kikikikikikiki
Castrators general at work.

Kikikikikikiki grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by benalvino3: 7:45am On May 06, 2022
budaatum:
So, a person who wants to abort wants to also kill and steal, Ben?

I wonder. Do they kill and steal less if they abort in the 10 weeks you find acceptable I wonder, or is ok to murder a ten week foetus but not an 11 week one because the 10 week fortus is not a person yet?
I asked you this
Do you know what freedom is? Freedom to kill, freedom to steal.


And you respond with the nonsense above in bold. This is why I said you don't use your head.

And the whole post seems like you have cognitive issue.

You said if someone wants to have abortion or sell their baby there is nothing anyone can do. I am saying only if they are not caught. I have already shown you example of a woman arrested who sells her baby.

You also talk about stealing and killing and nothing anyone can do. I am saying they don't have freedom to kill or still. They can do it... But when they are caught they will be punished. That means, there is no freedom to steal or kill.
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