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tctrills:
To David, Jesus Christ was his Lord; Psalm 110 The LORD said unto my lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

To Isaiah; For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Daniel 3:25; He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

To the faithful in times of old, Jesus Christ was known and he meant the very same as he means to the faithful today. He was their salvation just as he is our salvation. They Knew him and worshiped him and made sacrifices to him.

cornelboy:
He was a powerful guardian angel to the Israelites. They don't even know him.

The Isaiah and Psalm verses are prophecies about Jesus.

tctrills:
You cant make prophecies unless it is revealed. Jesus was revealed to them of old just as he is revealed to us. Also note, that Isaiah called him God, and father. David called him Lord, and Daniel called him the Son of God. He meant more than a guardian angel. He was their Lord, God, and son of God.
If David did not know him, he would never call him his Lord. Jesus was his Lord Just as he is your Lord.

cornelboy:
The prophecy was revealed to Isaiah and David. It didn't happen in their time.

Isaiah knew someone is coming according to the prophecy but he obviously didn't know Jesus.
Jesus became known by people when he became human. The Jews didn't even believe.

I think we've had this conversation before. I don't wanna do it again.

Eriokanmi:
The messiah who was to come as predicted in the book of Isiah

tctrills:
You keep saying the prophets of old did not know him and I wonder where you get that from. They wrote about him, what more should they have done to convince you that they know him even more than you do?

cornelboy:
Obviously David and Isaiah didn't know Jesus more than I do. I have access to the accounts written about him. They don't.
In fact, all they know is just the little prophecy God gave them about him.

tctrills:
How little is it? They know he is their Savoir and Lord. Please tell us what they need to know.

cornelboy:
They knew Jesus would be the saviour and lord.

tctrills:
That's all it takes. To accept him as our Saviour that the entire purpose of the new testament.

tctrills:
To David, Jesus Christ was his Lord; Psalm 110 The LORD said unto my lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

To Isaiah; For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Daniel 3:25; He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

To the faithful in times of old, Jesus Christ was known and he meant the very same as he means to the faithful today. He was their salvation just as he is our salvation. They Knew him and worshiped him and made sacrifices to him.

cornelboy:
Your opinion sir.

xproducer:
++++++++

Amen!

"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." - John 8:56-58

"Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." - 1 Corinthians 10:1-4

tctrills:
You cant make prophecies unless it is revealed. Jesus was revealed to them of old just as he is revealed to us. Also note, that Isaiah called him God, and father. David called him Lord, and Daniel called him the Son of God. He meant more than a guardian angel. He was their Lord, God, and son of God.

If David did not know him, he would never call him his Lord. Jesus was his Lord Just as he is your Lord.

He will be called.... "mighty God" (at a future time) not Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ",at a future time, not his Father the Creator,1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ reference Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God

Janosky:
He will be called.... "mighty God" (at a future time) not Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ",at a future time, not his Father the Creator,1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ reference Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God".

tctrills:
John 20:31
But these are written, [b]that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life [/b]through his name.

Oga, not my opinion. Some of us read the bible. The only purpose of the new testament was to make us believe in him.

Janosky:
According to your own Bible, John 20:31 there is no salvation in the doctrine of "God the son".

tctrills:
It's clear you don't understand what we are discussing here. Please take some time to update yourself on the thread.

tctrills post=
"Also note, that Isaiah called him God, and father"
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Your statement I quoted is not rocket science.


Isaiah said:
"He will be called.... "mighty God" .
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ".
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) is his Father , Yahweh the Creator, Isaiah 44:24 &1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ references Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God."

Janosky:
Your statement I quoted is not rocket science.


Isaiah said:
"He will be called.... "mighty God" .
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) Most High God, Yahweh.

"He will be called... Everlasting Father ".
Isaiah references a future time.
Isaiah did not say he (Jesus) is his Father , Yahweh the Creator, Isaiah 44:24 &1 Cor 8:6.

Please note the difference.
Matthew 12:15-20, Jesus Christ references Isaiah's prophecy to REMOVE every Trinitarian attempt to make him Almighty God."

tctrills:
Sir this thread is not about the trinity. We can discuss trinity another time but you could have tried to understand what we are talking about before contributing

Janosky:
God bless.

tctrills:
John 20:31
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Oga, not my opinion. Some of us read the bible. The only purpose of the new testament was to make us believe in him.

tctrills:
Great and thank you Cornelboy take note

cornelboy:
Abraham was looking forward to Jesus's coming just like Isaiah and the nation of Israel were looking forward to his coming.

At 1 Corinthians 10:1-4, Paul was comparing the rock Moses and the people drank from to Christ who's the source of living water.
The people were baptized unto Moses at the rest sea just like Paul and the others were baptized unto Christ.
Christ ain't literally that rock.