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IMAliyu:
You continue to mislabel me after multiple corrections.
Atheist/Atheism has a very specific definition, unless you are using your own made-up definition of the word, neither in my reply nor my views do I fall under the definition. Your insistence suggests bad faith. I don't know what you stand to gain by it.

So, you're saying that belief is trust and this trust is evidenced through action?

Perhaps i TEACH you how to ascertain facts instead of allowing people's claims to mislead you.
There is just TWO roads it's either you believe (trust) in God or you don't which automatically makes you an atheist. Matthew 7:13-14
For your information there are billions of atheists globally claiming they are believers but it's by their actions that we know where they truly belong! Matthew 7:16-18

I wouldn't trust him on it, but I wouldn't dismiss him either, since we were friends, I'd entertain multiple possibilities, and give him chance to prove himself. As it's an outlandish claim.
And if I witnessed the fit myself, then it wouldn't be a matter of trust or belief, at that point it'd just be a fact, at least this will set a precedent to be more trusting of the friend in the future. Considering I don't see the father, nor know how he does it, I'd just be indifferent/agnostic to it if it's outside of what I'm capable of finding out, as it'd be of no consequence to me.

How should this relate to religious belief in God?

God gave mankind the Bible, this book was aimed at helping mankind to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally. Isaiah 2:2-4
So if there's no group of worshipers anywhere that can fulfill this task then the Bible is as useless as shit. But today what God promised has sufficed, one group has gathered people in millions throughout the world, used the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities, erased politics and racism from their hearts and replaced it with love for their neighbours, they have also resolved to divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to make or raise weapons against their fellowman again and as for military services they've said "GOODBYE" Micah 4:1-3
So the child has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that his father is trustworthy it's left to you now if you will further trust (believe) what his father promised about the future of mankind! Revelations 21:3-5

I make no claims to a God's existence or inexistence,

That is what ATHEISM truly means, it's not until you start arguing against the existence of God that makes you an atheist, your inability to trust anyone around you is enough! 1John 4:20

Why not ask the specific individuals you're referring to?

You quoted me based on my response to him which means you're together!

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps i TEACH you how to ascertain facts instead of allowing people's claims to mislead you.
There is just TWO roads it's either you believe (trust) in God or you don't which automatically makes you an atheist. Matthew 7:13-14
For your information there are billions of atheists globally claiming they are believers but it's by their actions that we know where they truly belong! Matthew 7:16-18

God gave mankind the Bible, this book was aimed at helping mankind to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally. Isaiah 2:2-4
So if there's no group of worshipers anywhere that can fulfill this task then the Bible is as useless as shit. But today what God promised has sufficed, one group has gathered people in millions throughout the world, used the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities, erased politics and racism from their hearts and replaced it with love for their neighbours, they have also resolved to divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to make or raise weapons against their fellowman again and as for military services they've said "GOODBYE" Micah 4:1-3
So the child has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that his father is trustworthy it's left to you now if you will further trust (believe) what his father promised about the future of mankind! Revelations 21:3-5

That is what ATHEISM truly means, it's not until you start arguing against the existence of God that makes you an atheist, your inability to trust anyone around you is enough! 1John 4:20

Guess I was correct to think you were using your own redefinition of the word.
And you're just expressing the religious ingroup, and outgroup thinking, where everyone not in the ingroup you classify as an Atheist. Making the word loose its actually meaning in the process and you may aswell replace it with other similar religious outgroup words, like nonbeliever, infidel, kafir...

Well, I don't know you or any of the authors of the bible, I have no reason or precedent to trust your words beyond giving you the benefit of the doubt.
The problem of religion I've grown to have issue with is something like, let me use the story of 'the boy who cried wolf' as an example it's a simple and straightforward story, the lesson and massage from it is easily understood. But a religion would rather focus on having faith the boy was real, size of the wolf, the village it took place, and argue it's an integral part of life.
I don't know if any part of the story was real or true, but I can at least understand and live with the relevant lesson from it.

You quoted me based on my response to him which means you're together!

I quoted you regarding the subject of the word "whiteman" which I've grown to have issues with much like the word blackman because of the vague lines it draws across people and the baseless beliefs people associate with them.

IMAliyu:
Guess I was correct to think you were using your own redefinition of the word.
And you're just expressing the religious ingroup, and outgroup thinking, where everyone not in the ingroup you classify as an Atheist. Making the word loose its actually meaning in the process and you may aswell replace it with other similar religious outgroup words, like nonbeliever, infidel, kafir...

Well, I don't know you or any of the authors of the bible, I have no reason or precedent to trust your words beyond giving you the benefit of the doubt.
The problem of religion I've grown to have issue with is something like, let me use the story of 'the boy who cried wolf' as an example it's a simple and straightforward story, the lesson and massage from it is easily understood. But a religion would rather focus on having faith the boy was real, size of the wolf, the village it took place, and argue it's an integral part of life.
I don't know if any part of the story was real or true, but I can at least understand and live with the relevant lesson from it.

I think there's no need arguing with you because whether you agree or not the meaning of ATHEISM to me is lack of belief (trust) in God and if you're not sure of God's existence then you're no more than an atheist to me!

I quoted you regarding the subject of the word "whiteman" which I've grown to have issues with much like the word blackman because of the vague lines it draws across people and the baseless beliefs people associate with them.

The other man is agitating against God's word (Bible) simply because it came from the white man but still quoting the same people.
That's why i questioned his reasonableness!