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NNTR:
Hebrews 9:27
'And just as people are appointed to die once, and then to face judgment,'

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we [believers will be called to account and] must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ,
so that each one may be repaid for what has been done in the body, whether good or bad
[that is, each will be held responsible for his actions, purposes, goals, motives
—the use or misuse of his time, opportunities and abilities].

In the world, not many have prior information on the proceedings of courts, yet the seating judge, sees to it, that an offer of a duty solicitor is given to who is in the dock. Likewise, everyone on judgment day, will be offered the chance to avail of the free legal aid service of the 'SAN uno'

Guess what chieveboy, in spite of the 'SAN uno' not known to ever, lose a case, some would rather be damned than having anything to do with the 'SAN uno'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

LoL at

some would rather be damned than having anything to do with the SAN uno

Maybe it's because this 'SAN uno' was never mentioned to them on earth.

NNTR:
Compassion is the only true and pure religion God approves of.
What is compassionate in killing a fellow human being please?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Muslims also say that and Hindus.
You just like a Christian version of them

chieveboy:
LoL at
some would rather be damned than having anything to do with the SAN uno

Well, man, from time immemorial, consistently, without disappointing, to date have been in the business, of sticking two fingers in the air at God and surely right on judgment day, when the opportunity presents itself, will communicate same.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

FatherOfJesus:
Muslims also say that and Hindus.
You just like a Christian version of them

Empathy hasn't got more than one version.
It goes beyond the range, limits or confines of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Christianity, The Gospel, ATF, New Age et cetera

Now, I'll re-ask you the question again you dodged:
What is compassionate in launching an attack on a defenceless fellow human being, then barbecue, after beaten up senselessly please?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
You said God does not determine where one is born and cited wicked angels having sex and giving birth...
My question rephrased is this: are you saying we are all children of the "wicked angels" and 'God has removed hand from our matter?'

The children of the wicked angels have all died in the global deluge, you and i are normal humans as in descendants of Noah!

God is interested in our matter that's why He sent Jesus so that obedient mankind can come out of this arrogant generation and have everlasting life. Presently Jesus has gathered millions of people throughout the earth, they come from different nations and have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} you and i know them as Jehovah's Witnesses!

NNTR:
Well, man, from time immemorial, consistently, without disappointing, to date have been in the business, of sticking two fingers in the air at God and surely right on judgment day, when the opportunity presents itself, will communicate same.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

What's your source for this nameless person?

MaxInDHouse:
The children of the wicked angels have all died in the global deluge, you and i are normal humans as in descendants of Noah!

God is interested in our matter that's why He sent Jesus so that obedient mankind can come out of this arrogant generation and have everlasting life. Presently Jesus has gathered millions of people throughout the earth, they come from different nations and have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} you and i know them as Jehovah's Witnesses!

I believe you just squarely confronted my original question. Who sends this 'normal humans" into Christian homes as new born babies? Why not stop sending them to be born in countries where they will never ever hear of Jesus.

Even if they do hear of Jesus, they must have likely have heared of his 'competitors' like Mohammed, Krishna, Macaroni Monster etc and could not have guessed Jesus is the correct one to pick?

chieveboy:
What's your source for this nameless person?

How do you mean what's your source for this nameless person?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
How do you mean what's your source for this nameless person?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

'SAN Uno'. How or where did you guys meet or how you got information on him. You complemented most of your idea with Biblical texts. 'SAN Uno' however does not seem to be in the Bible.

What's your source of information please? I can understand if this is gnosively obtained.

chieveboy:
I believe just squarely confronted my original question. Who sends this 'normal humans" into Christian homes as new born babies?

Your original question is flawed. Recall, when I typed that whatever faith or faithlessness, anyone is born into, doesnt diminish the effectiveness of our inbuilt moral compass, so meaning, it doesnt matter whether through the lottery of life you found yourself born into a Freethinker, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Believer, ATR practitioner, New Age et cetera setting as new born babies.

chieveboy:
... Why not stop sending them to be born in countries where they will never ever hear of Jesus. Even if they do, they will hear of his 'competitors' like Mohammed, Krishna etc and could not have guessed Jesus is the correct one to pick?

Whether you're a Freethinker, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Believer, ATR practitioner, New Age et cetera, just as Romans 2:14 reveals, your conscience, is the voice of God, inside your soul, inside you, in you. Even if you still dont hear of Jesus, you'll get a chance on judgment day to hear of Him

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
By this, you are implying someone in the wrong religion will find out about the good one and switch.

What's the chance of that? How do you prove the religion you switch to is the "approved" one. Note that other opposing religions have their 'Books' and "messages from God" on how the other one is the wrong one. This is if you are going to quote any book as response.

He won't answer your question.
He'll only appeal to intuition, which is a faulty basis as it's subjective to people's world view and experiences.

NNTR:
Your original question is flawed. Recall, when I typed that whatever faith or faithlessness, anyone is born into, doesnt diminish the effectiveness of our inbuilt moral compass, so meaning, it doesnt matter whether through the lottery of life you found yourself born into a Freethinker, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Believer, ATR practitioner, New Age et cetera setting as new born babies.

Whether you're a Freethinker, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Agnostic, Christian, Believer, ATR practitioner, New Age et cetera, just as Romans 2:14 reveals, your conscience, is the voice of God, inside your soul, inside you, in you. Even if you still dont hear of Jesus, you'll get a chance on judgment day to hear of Him

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Okay I see where you're from. Jesus.

Note however that Christians teach that accepting Jesus is to be done on earth not on the judgement throne after death, which would invalidates any acceptance of him thereafter.

Do you know this?

NNTR:
Empathy hasn't got more than one version.
It goes beyond the range, limits or confines of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Christianity, The Gospel, ATF, New Age et cetera

Now, I'll re-ask you the question again you dodged:
What is compassionate in launching an attack on a defenceless fellow human being, then barbecue, after beaten up senselessly please?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

exactly same thing other religions say about themselves

NNTR:
Correction, some people will be destroyed in a lake of fire that burns forever

If anyone upon appearing on judgment day, refuses to take advantage of the free legal aid offer, with Senior Advocate Number Uno (i.e. SAN) representing them, then such only has to blame themselves for wherever they end up at.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
This is actually a good one with reference to your third insight. This however defeats or opposes your first paragraph as in only those who the "SAN uno" represents will be spared. Or could the SAN uno be a free agent without religious affiliation?

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chieveboy:
'SAN Uno'. How or where did you guys meet or how you got information on him. You complemented most of your idea with Biblical texts. 'SAN Uno' however does not seem to be in the Bible.

SAN, typical an acronym for Senior Advocate of Nigeria, is a title that conferred on legal practitioners in Nigeria of not less than ten years' standing and who have distinguished themselves in the legal profession.

Now, Senior Advocate Number Uno (i.e. SAN) in a deliberate and intentional way, was used by me, to give a similar air of context, but when you changed it to 'SAN uno', I went along with it because I could live it, being that I sensed you understood the angle I was coming from with using Senior Advocate Number Uno, which is to signify the Advocate status or appellation

On the contrary, Senior Advocate Number Uno (i.e. SAN) or 'SAN uno' is in the bible.

chieveboy:
What's your source of information please? I can understand if this is gnosively obtained.

My source is from the Source, from the bible, from et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
Okay I see where you're from Jesus.

Acts 4:12
'And there is salvation in no one else;
for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among people by which we must be saved
[for God has provided the world no alternative for salvation]'

Believe in the person now. Or wait for the last time or last chance, on judgment day, when will be offered the name, to use and/or take advantage of.

chieveboy:
Note however that Christians teach that accepting Jesus is to be done on earth not on the judgement throne after death, which would invalidates any acceptance of him thereafter.

Do you know this?

John 3:16-21
'16“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge and condemn the world [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world], but that the world might be saved through Him.
18Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation]; but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord] is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced], because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him].
19This is the judgment [that is, the cause for indictment, the test by which people are judged, the basis for the sentence]: the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20For every wrongdoer hates the Light, and does not come to the Light [but shrinks from it] for fear that his [sinful, worthless] activities will be exposed and condemned.
21But whoever practices truth [and does what is right--morally, ethically, spiritually] comes to the Light, so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--accomplished in God [divinely prompted, done with God’s help, in dependence on Him].”'

I know that Christians teach sizeable portions of fanciful and quasi-inventive things

Do you know that God is Fair and Just?
If an earthly judge, is fair, how less fair and just do you think, God will be or could be, hmm?
Watch this, everyone will get their time on judgment day, if havent already, to choose who will save him/her, who will represent them, who will put up a defence for them, who will fight their corner for them, who will hold brief for them et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

FatherOfJesus:
exactly same thing other religions say about themselves

Please what exactly are others saying about themselves?

Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Christianity, ATF, New Age et cetera have flaws and faults that certainly disqualifies them from being any true and pure religion approved by God. Compassion is the only true and pure religion approved by God

Instead of saying, 'exactly same thing other religions say about themselves', why dont you kindly, reply to the question below you keep dodging:
In this day and age, what is compassionate in launching an attack on a defenceless fellow human being, then get barbecued, after done beaten up senselessly please?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
Good. This in essence means religion may after all not be the yardstick whether or not there is a judgement at the last day.

Religion simply means regular doings aka behaviour, thus, judgement is based on your doings (religion) exactly the way the doings of everything is Judged!

NNTR:
Religion takes different shapes and forms, has different passions, interest, rituals et cetera.

Take for example, football is a religion, ice hockey is a religion. Fashion, for some, is a religion too, even atheism, funnily enough, as well, is a religion but nobody, not even you Elmojiid or chieveboy, can't find fault(s) in empathy and/or with compassion.

Empathy, goes beyond the range, limits or confines of Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Christianity, The Gospel, ATF, New Age et cetera

Humanity combined with divinity is a sure banker, any day any time

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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chieveboy:
Good. This in essence means religion may after all not be the yardstick whether or not there is a judgement at the last day.

Pure and true religion, that has no flaws or fault and such that God approves of is among the yardsticks, to be considered at judgement on the last day

Dtruthspeaker:
Religion simply means regular doings aka behaviour, thus, judgement is based on your doings (religion) exactly the way the doings of everything is Judged!

chieveboy:
I believe you just squarely confronted my original question. Who sends this 'normal humans" into Christian homes as new born babies? Why not stop sending them to be born in countries where they will never ever hear of Jesus.
Even if they do hear of Jesus, they must have likely have heared of his 'competitors' like Mohammed, Krishna, Macaroni Monster etc and could not have guessed Jesus is the correct one to pick?

That's where wisdom comes in!

The demons are out there claiming they are the Almighty God too so confusion is everywhere. But then the only true God gave us clues we can use to know who is who between Himself and demons claiming they're the true God.

Note that we can't see any God physically but we can perceive their qualities through the conduct of their worshipers with whom the gods are working or controlling.
Imagine a very beautiful dress, you want to know the designer for your own personal clothing but many people stood before you all claiming they're the designer of this beautiful dress, of course one of them must be the true designer while all others are liars but then how do you figure out the real designer?
All of them are speaking from different angles and one out of them all suggested that you bring another cloth and let's see who could make it fitting on you. Instantly after saying this all the others ran away living the man who raised that suggestion. What will be your conclusion about the real designer?
Do you still need anyone to tell you that the last man standing is the true designer?

chieveboy:
1. God is supposedly going to burn some people in hell for ever and ever for not belonging in his official religion or accepting his son and messenger.

2. Why then does he allow people to be born in places they may never accept his supposed official religion considering the ones who are so convinced they are in the right one are merely into it because they were born there, speaking of 99% of everyone.

3. They got indoctrinated from childhood so much that any other religion seems like blasphemy and tufiakwa to them.

Why?

1. The God of the Bible/Scripture says only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Hell is one of the two domains in there - John 3 vs 5 - 8 and Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. So only those who are born-again can achieve Hell.

2. Every human is born complete with ability to think for self and process reality as he/she chooses. If even a child born in a pastor's/imam's house can grow up not believing in God then certainly indoctrination is a choice made by individuals even children and can be unmade.

3. See #2

NNTR:
Acts 4:12
'And there is salvation in no one else;
for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among people by which we must be saved
[for God has provided the world no alternative for salvation]'

Believe in the person now. Or wait for the last time or last chance, on judgment day, when will be offered the name, to use and/or take advantage of.

John 3:16-21
'16“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17For God did not send the Son into the world to judge and condemn the world [that is, to initiate the final judgment of the world], but that the world might be saved through Him.
18Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation]; but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord] is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced], because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him].
19This is the judgment [that is, the cause for indictment, the test by which people are judged, the basis for the sentence]: the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20For every wrongdoer hates the Light, and does not come to the Light [but shrinks from it] for fear that his [sinful, worthless] activities will be exposed and condemned.
21But whoever practices truth [and does what is right--morally, ethically, spiritually] comes to the Light, so that his works may be plainly shown to be what they are--accomplished in God [divinely prompted, done with God’s help, in dependence on Him].”'

I know that Christians teach sizeable portions of fanciful and quasi-inventive things

Do you know that God is Fair and Just?
If an earthly judge, is fair, how less fair and just do you think, God will be or could be, hmm?
Watch this, everyone will get their time on judgment day, if havent already, to choose who will save him/her, who will represent them, who will put up a defence for them, who will fight their corner for them, who will hold brief for them et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Why does God bother sending people to where they will need saving from in judgement day. Why risk having some of them possibly reject "SAN Uno" and having them burnt forever?

This is in view of unborn children are 'jejely' somewhere 'sinless', but then are sent to a Sinful world, country, parent etc knowing fully well not all are going to 'make it's as the system will have it?

What's the idea of it all. 2 out of 10 of your kids are going to 'make it while the remaining 8 by your own law, you're burning them externally?

This is the great question.

Kobojunkie:
1. The God of the Bible/Scripture says only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Hell is one of the two domains in there - John 3 vs 5 - 8 and Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. So only those who are born-again can achieve Hell.

2. Every human is born complete with ability to think for self and process reality as he/she chooses. If even a child born in a pastor's/imam's house can grow up not believing in God then certainly indoctrination is a choice made by individuals even children and can be unmade.

3. See #2

1: The God of the Quran and other religions says otherwise about who enters heaven. Which one is the correct one?

2: Why bother creating someone by default with just knowledge of ' good/bad', then judge and condemn them to eternal inferno not using the same yardstick you originally built into them but an alien one they found after they start to grow (religion)?

If you do not get the question in 2:

By default a man is created to know good and bad. He then is birthed in an atheist home. He lives his life working with the default (good/bad) by leading a just, honest, and loving life. He dies.

You now come to him telling him he did not accept a son you sent to save him from something he does not even know, so you his dad will burn him forever. Why?

MaxInDHouse:
That's where wisdom comes in!

The demons are out there claiming they are the Almighty God too so confusion is everywhere. But then the only true God gave us clues we can use to know who is who between Himself and demons claiming they're the true God.

Note that we can't see any God physically but we can perceive their qualities through the conduct of their worshipers with whom the gods are working or controlling.
Imagine a very beautiful dress, you want to know the designer for your own personal clothing but many people stood before you all claiming they're the designer of this beautiful dress, of course one of them must be the true designer while all others are liars but then how do you figure out the real designer?
All of them are speaking from different angles and one out of them all suggested that you bring another cloth and let's see who could make it fitting on you. Instantly after saying this all the others ran away living the man who raised that suggestion. What will be your conclusion about the real designer?
Do you still need anyone to tell you that the last man standing is the true designer?

I have met fantastic Muslims, Christians, Pagans and so on. These are all worshippers of something who if you compare with their evil fellows, you may want to go for maybe Islam if the bad one was Christian going by your analogy.

Kobojunkie:
1. The God of the Bible/Scripture says only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Hell is one of the two domains in there - John 3 vs 5 - 8 and Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. So only those who are born-again can achieve Hell.

2. Every human is born complete with ability to think for self and process reality as he/she chooses. If even a child born in a pastor's/imam's house can grow up not believing in God then certainly indoctrination is a choice made by individuals even children and can be unmade.

3. See #2

Colossians 1:27
'God [in His eternal plan] chose to make known to them
how great for the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery,
which is Christ in and among you, the hope and guarantee of [realizing the] glory.'

Revelation 3:20
'“Look! I stand at the door and knock.
If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends.'

Ephesians 3:16-17
'16May He grant you out of the riches of His glory, to be strengthened and spiritually energized with power through His Spirit in your inner self, [indwelling your innermost being and personality],
17so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through your faith.
And may you, having been [deeply] rooted and [securely] grounded in love,'

2 Corinthians 13:5
Test and evaluate yourselves to see whether you are in the faith and living your lives as [committed] believers.
Examine yourselves [not me]!
Or do you not recognize this about yourselves [by an ongoing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you
—unless indeed you fail the test and are rejected as counterfeit?

The Kingdom of God has a territory, with amount of space, that covers the heavens, the whole earth and that includes right into within hearts

NNTR:

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Pure and true religion, that has no flaws or fault and such that God approves of is among the yardsticks, to be considered at judgement on the last day

If judgement is going to be fair, it won't be based on any religion. It would be based on actions. The moment you bring religion into it, it becomes an unfair and flawed judgement.

The fact that you have to accept someone who is not universally available in the real sense of the word 'universal' means the case is flawed from beginning. That's like marking my scripts based on the questions of another candidate.

Further, there cannot be such a thing as "pure religion" as you like to think. Maybe you mean "Pure Intents" which will be closer to the idea of actions informed by empathy.

chieveboy:
1: The God of the Quran and other religions says otherwise about who enters heaven. Which one is the correct one?

2: Why bother creating someone by default with just knowledge of ' good/bad', then judge and condemn them to eternal inferno not using the same yardstick you originally built into them but an alien one they found after they start to grow (religion)?

3. If you do not get the question in 2:

By default a man is created to know good and bad. He then is birthed in an atheist home. He lives his life working with the default (good/bad) by leading a just, honest, and loving life. He dies.

4. You now come to him telling him he did not accept a son you sent to save him from something he does not even know, so you his dad will burn him forever. Why?

1. Well, you decide which of the 4000 deities out there you want to pitch your tent with.

As for which of them is the "correct" one, that is where individuals are meant to use there heads rather than have others make that decision for you.

2. First of all, there are 4000 religions out there, so you need to tailor your questions to meet each religions actual truth in order to get the answers you seek, I hope you at least understand that much.

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According to Christian scripture, your came into being when when you were conceived, this by your father and mother. There was no yardstick built into you at your conception only the ability to chose right or wrong, God's Will or your will.

And I previously explained, it is only those that become born-again that can enter into Hell. Those who reject God simply return back to dust from whence they were born from at their end.

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3. Again, this idea of yours contradicts Christian scripture.

4. And as I already explained to you, this idea of yours also contradicts what is Christian scripture..

NNTR:
The Kingdom of God has a territory, with amount of space, that covers the heavens, the whole earth and that includes right into within hearts

As Jesus Christ Himself told you in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, the Kingdom of God which He is King over, a Kingdom not of this world, is of Heaven and of Hell.

And only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 , through one of two gates - the broad gate or the narrow gate - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14.

Ofcourse Jesus Christ commands that you endeavor to enter through the Narrow gate - Luke 13 vs 22 - 30

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, you decide which of the 4000 deities out there you want to pitch your tent with.

As for which of them is the "correct" one, that is where individuals are meant to use there heads rather than have others make that decision for you.

2. First of all, there are 4000 religions out there, so you need to tailor your questions to meet each religions actual truth in order to get the answers you seek, I hope you at least understand that much.

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According to Christian scripture, your came into being when when you were conceived, this by your father and mother. There was no yardstick built into you at your conception only the ability to chose right or wrong, God's Will or your will.

And I previously explained, it is only those that become born-again that can enter into Hell. Those who reject God simply return back to dust from whence they were born from at their end.

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3. Again, this idea of yours contradicts Christian scripture.

4. And as I already explained to you, this idea of yours also contradicts what is Christian scripture..

When answering direct and clear-cut questions, you will do better giving clear-cut answers rather than try to sell a doctrine.

My question rephrased:

If we had 2 religions and only one is correct, why bother sending your kids into families and countries where they can't possibly contemplate joining the true one you prescribed since the only thing you gave them was knowledge of good and bad which won't be the yardstick of whether you will burn them forever or not?

Do you get it? You won't judge them base on how good they are or how bad. Yes, you won't, because if they had been purely good boys but didn't accept your son, or your messenger, they will be burnt.

chieveboy:
1..When answering direct and clear-cut questions, you will do better giving clear-cut answers rather than try to sell a doctrine.

2. My question rephrased:
a. If we had 2 religions and only one is correct, why bother sending your kids into families and countries b. where they can't possibly contemplate joining the true one you prescribed since c. the only thing you gave them was knowledge of good and bad d. which won't be the yardstick of whether you will burn them forever or not?

3. Do you get it? You won't judge them base on how good they are or how bad. Yes, you won't, because if they had been purely good boys but didn't accept your son, or your messenger, they will be burnt.

1. Not once have I made an attempt to see you any doctrine here.

2a. Again, kids come into existence the moment they are conceived by the man and woman - we are all of us born sons of men. So those kids are kids to their parents.

2b. Every child born into this world is born with capacity of independent thinking and as such is able to reason even the things of God. No one is born without ability to ask God to reveal His truth directly to him/her.

2c. Again, God didn't give man knowledge of good and of evil from his creation. Man stole that by eating from the tree which God commanded Him not to. However, God created man with ability to chose either good or bad.

Also God didn't call on persons to joining religion pretending to do so in His name. Instead God has it programmed in all to call upon Him, and His promise is that He will answer those who genuinely seek Him.

2d. Again, according to Scripture, only those who are born-again will be able to achieve Hell.

Also, the same standard of which man stole from in the beginning,
▪︎ God's Truth (the tree of knowledge of good and evil)
▪︎ God's Eternal life (from the tree of Life)
....aka Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Life and Law, is in fact the same standard God will use in judging those who are born-again.

3. You still don't get it at all. The standard God offered to men in the beginning is the same standard He will judge those who are born-again, those who chose Him this time around, with.

NNTR:
Please what exactly are others saying about themselves?

Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Christianity, ATF, New Age et cetera have flaws and faults that certainly disqualifies them from being any true and pure religion approved by God. Compassion is the only true and pure religion approved by God

Instead of saying, 'exactly same thing other religions say about themselves', why dont you kindly, reply to the question below you keep dodging:
In this day and age, what is compassionate in launching an attack on a defenceless fellow human being, then get barbecued, after done beaten up senselessly please?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

exactly what other religions claim

Kobojunkie:
1. Not once have I made an attempt to see you any doctrine here.

2a. Again, kids come into existence the moment they are conceived by the man and woman - we are all of us born sons of men. So those kids are kids to their parents.

2b. Every child born into this world is born with capacity of independent thinking and as such is able to reason even the things of God. No one is born without ability to ask God to reveal His truth directly to him/her.

2c. Again, God didn't give man knowledge of good and of evil from his creation. Man stole that by eating from the tree which God commanded Him not to. However, God created man with ability to chose either good or bad.

Also God didn't call on persons to joining religion pretending to do so in His name. Instead God has it programmed in all to call upon Him, and His promise is that He will answer those who genuinely seek Him.

2d. Again, according to Scripture, only those who are born-again will be able to achieve Hell.

Also, the same standard of which man stole from in the beginning,
▪︎ God's Truth (the tree of knowledge of good and evil)
▪︎ God's Eternal life (from the tree of Life)
....aka Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Life and Law, is in fact the same standard God will use in judging those who are born-again.

3. You still don't get it at all. The standard God offered to men in the beginning is the same standard He will judge those who are born-again, those who chose Him this time around, with.

1: No doctrine being sold here. No need for such attempt.

2a: It's general concept that everyone are children of God starting from Adam. I did not find where any deity assumed the role of creation as in God.

2b/c: They contradict points b&c. Independent thinking comes with knowledge of good and evil sir. Freewill is the go ahead to chose between options. It's volition.

3: There is information available on what this story of Adam and Eve really is beyond the allegory presented on the bible. It however will destroy a lot of basis for most beliefs in most religions. It will let the cat out the bag so need for that.

4: I will not bother commenting on this.

chieveboy:
Why does God bother sending people to where they will need saving from in judgement day.

1 Timothy 1:17
'And to the King of the ages, the incorruptible, invisible, only wise God,
[is] honor and glory through the ages of the ages! Amen'

I asked you an easy, simple and uncomplicated question question but you stepped over it, meaning didnt give your answer. The question was:
Do you know that God is Fair and Just?

Watch this. You're on earth because you have the fundamental right to come into existence. Now there's something called responsibility, this is talking about the fact and condition of being accountable. You have the right and freedom to 'come, see and conquer' however, at the end of day, you will be required to explain every single action or the lack of action. Nobody should have nothing to worry about, as everyone will have a fair hearing before an incorruptible Judge

chieveboy:
Why risk having some of them possibly reject "SAN Uno" and having them burnt forever?

This is another of flawed questionings. Both questions are skewed, in the sense that, souls do not burn forever. The lake of Fire, of course, burns forever, but souls once consumed by fire, do not continue burning after already being destroyed. Capisce now?

Fairness and righteousness requires, each and all, be given, the choice to accept or reject 'SAN Uno'. Essentially, you decide where you want to end up at

chieveboy:
This is in view of unborn children are 'jejely' somewhere 'sinless', but then are sent to a Sinful world, country, parent etc knowing fully well not all are going to 'make it's as the system will have it?

Worry less about unborn children, put your positive energy about how you and/or neighbour are going to make it, as the system will have it.

chieveboy:
What's the idea of it all. 2 out of 10 of your kids are going to 'make it while the remaining 8 by your own law, you're burning them externally?

This is the great question.

The more the reason why to make sure in taking the right choice on judgment day, who you want to represent you.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}