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Sweden Officially Joins NATO, Ending Decades Of Neutrality / Turkey Agrees To Support Finland And Sweden's NATO Membership / Zelensky Says Ukraine Is Ready To Discuss Neutrality - Russian Media (2) (3) (4)

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Themandator: 4:09pm On May 16, 2022
kingthreat:


You keep underestimating Russia. Well it is what the media tells you, you believe.

Tell us what Russia is that you know.


According to the CIA : the Russian army is a third world army with rockets



Russia that doesn't have a single sea worthy aircraft carrier

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Themandator: 4:10pm On May 16, 2022
MT:


Most of the nukes are inoperable. Also, it is not the number of nukes you have that matters, it is the delivery mechanism. US has the most precision guided nuclear capable military assets.

A responsible nation doesn't use nuclear capabilities to boast. Have you heard any of the NATO members boasting . If Putin wants a war, he knows what to do - just hit Poland by an inch, then sit back and enjoy "chum chin chum"�


Some are empty canisters
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by AldrichAmes: 4:13pm On May 16, 2022
Nothing really to see here.

Sweden and Finland have been quasi-NATO countries for over 2 decades and they regularly partake in every NATO drill. What they’re doing now is basically making it formal and Russia just has to respond the right way.

Russia just needs to make the already uber-militarised Kaliningrad more militarised with more nuclear weapons and put more nuclear bombs around the Finnish border. And wage economic war against Finland that’s very dependent on Russia. If not for St. Petersburg - this is more symbolic than anything. And it’s not really different from Estonia and Lithuania joining NATO (both are NATO countries).

The prize for Americans has always been Ukraine, especially Sea of Azov and Black Sea. And that’s lost forever.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by brightalo1010: 4:14pm On May 16, 2022
Moony45:
Its a nuclear weapon country... There is no such thing as encircle... unless they can bear the consequences. Russia has the most number of nuclear arsenal in the world (6500nukes)
. Abeg let him nuke the thing na because it seems like that's the only thing left for him now.

Again wait ooo when he nukes it will it not also affect Russians including his family and friends living in various countries abi the Nuclear bomb will detect Russians and online hype men like you and spare them?
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Themandator: 4:14pm On May 16, 2022
noisy45:


You speak like a novice over 1000 nuclear missiles can be launched at once by Russia and even the USA. What will be the difference is who gets hitted first and who has countermeasures against it. The only countermeasures against a nuclear missile in flight is to disarm the nuclear warhead it via satellite hacking when that happens there will be no nuclear explosion when nuclear missile gets to its destination. Russia has military grade hackers same with the USA.


Not even one will be launched by Russia.....

Do you imagine China wants to have such a scenario or India... Radioactive dust from nuclear launch to UK from samamt 2 will travel to Russia and China



Samart 1 didn't see action before it decommissioning... The same will happen to 2
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Demolakay: 4:15pm On May 16, 2022
Dawn91:
Wow

Seems Europe is about to change forever...

Putin is a goat

What if this was the plan of the West all along ?
This should be a real casestudy in any international relations course globally..Putin walked into a trap. As it stands Russia is so weàkned.. both from a military perspective and from an economical perspective. Right now Russia can't with stand a war with ordianry India in her current state..

Putin took the bait and slipped up big time. Just imagine if suddenly a country like Iran decides to attack Russia... All her forces are spread thin in Ukraine, there are no reinforcements coming the only thing Putin will use to threaten Iran is nukes but guess what? Iran has nukes too. grin

N true no. By now even Putin knows he walked into this trap..when last did you hear him threaten anyone unlike before? Because he knows that now if he threatens ordiany India they may call.his bluff and tell him oga wetin you go do?

Nothing anyone will tell me, this was a trap.. for years we have seen USA wage war with Iran, Iraq , Afghanistan, Syria , Taliban, Alqaeda , etc.

Russia hasn't fought a war since world war 2. . Ordianry their first try see as Ukraine burst their lip grin

This is why anyone who has a titale of alagbara don't go and fight him thinking he is overrated o. So wait forget nukes because everyone has them even India... So this is the military might that Putin has been threatening the west with for years?

Kai egbon Putin.. Oti tu zeh ni... Make Russia just humble for the next 20 years because any country they annoy go just decide oya make we fight war ... What is shocking is Ukraine hasn't fired weapons at Russia yet o.. yet Russia couldn't win
..

Kai
Ur spewing ignorance.Soo u bliv all of Russia's conventional forces are in Ukraine? funny u Ukraine would av bn overran since! since d war started, Russia has only use two hypersonic missile.Russia has close to 3million standing army.Dose fighting in Ukraine are nt more Dan 100k.Russia has close to 40,000 tanks,u also bliv all of d tanks has bn destroyed in Ukraine? more Dan 12,000 aircraft,all has bn destroyed in Ukraine? if dat b d case,why is NATO still hesitating? dey should av confronted Russia headlong,since to Dem, Russia has bn weakened.i laugh at some pples ignorance.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Themandator: 4:15pm On May 16, 2022
brightalo1010:
. Abeg let him nuke the thing na because it seems like that's the only thing left for him now.

Again wait ooo when he nukes it will it not also affect Russians including his family and friends living in various countries abi the Nuclear bomb will detect Russians and online hype men like you and spare them?



Even tactical Nike, Belarus says Russia can't use on Ukraine because they are too close

Let Russia insist on it and see if Belarus won't turn against them.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Ochyes: 4:17pm On May 16, 2022
Alexandersantos:
russia will single-handedly defeat nato and all the country under it... IN PUTIN WE TRUST
Hmm
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Etinosa12345: 4:17pm On May 16, 2022
OneKinGuy:
This is a very stupid decision. Sweden was still Neutral then Nazi Germany brought destruction to Europe.

Don't cry bro grin

FYI the reason why Sweden was not invaded was because of the treaty between them and Germany that they will give their iron ore to Germany in exchange for not being invaded..

They were not just peaceful by chance
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by infogeneral: 4:18pm On May 16, 2022
From one to tripple headaches for Mr Putin. What is he going to do now? Deploy his soldiers to Sweeden and Finland while he is still being given a bloody nose in Ukraine? I doubt he has the capabilities.
Even if Finland and Sweeden membership are not approved, the fact that they could openly declare to join NATO inspite of all the threats and intimidations from Russia is a great slap on Putin's face.
Pride goes before a great fall.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by kingthreat(m): 4:19pm On May 16, 2022
Themandator:


Tell us what Russia is that you know.


According to the CIA : the Russian army is a third world army with rockets



Russia that doesn't have a single sea worthy aircraft carrier

Okay
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by olusola200: 4:20pm On May 16, 2022
No champion forever.
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by colonelwealth(m): 4:20pm On May 16, 2022
HonNL:
Sweden has decided to follow neighboring Finland and apply for NATO membership, ending more than 200 years of military nonalignment because of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, officials said Monday.



SOURCE



Sweden&Finland has just made foolish decisions.
This is what you get when a country like USA manipulates the whole of western Europe.
USA can't try these with most Asian nations.

Why involve your self in a battle that doesn't concern you?
This is another reason why feminist leaders are a no go area...always reasoning with sentiments.

NATO is real the agressor here by always advancing towards Russia using Ukraine as bait&pretending to be innocent.....to those cheering Sweden and Finland, hope you know that this move puts the entire world at risk.
If China, Iran, Arab nations&India decides to act on the side of Russia the world will become very volatile.
To cheerers of NATO, answer these questions with sincerity..(If Russia kept to their own side of the agreement by not expanding again towards the US via Cuba why can't the west respect their own agreement too)??, Why push Ukraine against Russia..?
Has NATO not invaded more nations in history..?
So what changed with this particular one..?

If Russia decides to reacts, the world will not be a safe place. It is a dangerous thing to dare a powerful nation fighting for her security.

Besides Russia can decide to activate her allies in in south America like Venezuela, Cuba as base for nuclear armament to unsettle USA.

Europeans have show themselves to be foolish people that want to drag the world into conflicts&wars.
What is the aim of provoking Russia by expanding eastwards...??
To those who say Putin's Russian is weak....I laugh at your nauseating ignorance.

Ask yourselves why an organization like NATO exists and why 32 nations have to gather to just fight against 1 nation if that nation isn't powerful enough to take them on.

Economic indices is mostly on paper and if war breaks out, Russia will show the difference between theories&real.

Russia is financially, natural resources rich and has a vast landmass, armies, science and industrial complex with big population to wage wars.

If not for the indirect interference of NATO&Russia soft approach because of their shared history, Ukraine would have been decimated since. In Ukraine Russia is already fighting NATO as well as Ukraine and for NATO this is also a revenge to Russia for interfering and defeating them in Syria where NATO's agenda to remove Mr. Assad failed.

Remember China is watching keenly and if Russia decides to activate their Chinese allies(they both have no limits technical cooperation allegiance agreement) then it's officially a troubled world.

Believe me Alot of non-western/Europe countries hate that NATO group and will capitalize on any opportunity to see to it's destruction if any conflict of global scale arises.
This is why most non-western/European nations have refused to join NATO against Russia or sanction them because NATO was created to subdue others not in their gang.

These Nordic countries have decided to move away from a place of safety that comes with neutrality into a place of insecurity/conflicts that comes with alliegance.
As it seems Turkey(another coded ally of Russia) may likely scuffle the plans of these Nordic nations)...beside the membership approval& joining process is another long haul.

This why the Spaniards &Portuguese are always smart because they know how to thread with caution in transnational conflicts such as this by not heavily involving themselves but keeping to the safe interest of their nations.

The UN has shown itself to be a manipulated,biased& toothless organization with no teeth and lacks the ability to engineer world peace.

Anyone that cherises world peace will not applaud the move of these Nordic countries (Sweden&Finland) to join NATO because it is a senseless move to excalate issues and drag the world into conflicts as this move will can create deadly chain reactions.

NATO&USA are shooting itself in the leg here because after this conflict is over, they will find it hard to invade anyother nation as usual because the world will remind them how they all treated and reacted towards Russia.

The ultimate goals of Putin is to put these NATO nations in check&ensure a bipolar world for the good of every man...also to make his country totally self sufficient &reallied against their adversaries....and these he is achieving silently.

NATO stay in your lane while Russia stays in hers, non should cross each other's sphere of influence...period!

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by railone(m): 4:21pm On May 16, 2022
noisy45:


You speak like a novice over 1000 nuclear missiles can be launched at once by Russia and even the USA. What will be the difference is who gets hitted first and who has countermeasures against it. The only countermeasures against a nuclear missile in flight is to disarm the nuclear warhead it via satellite hacking when that happens there will be no nuclear explosion when nuclear missile gets to its destination. Russia has military grade hackers same with the USA.

this one dn watch Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, come dey think say you can shut down ICBM by hacking it when no be you fire am.
If you did bother to read about what you claim you know, you'd know the controls and firing mechanism of ICBM are analogy not digital to save them from EMP explosion.
This implies that unless you can hit the bunker where the nuke is stored and manage to destroy the fire mechanism, chance of a counter strike is very high.
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Alexandersantos(m): 4:21pm On May 16, 2022
Igbofam:


Meanwhile the Putin you trust
remember he has the most powerful and deadly nuclear weapon
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Rebelutionary: 4:22pm On May 16, 2022
Moony45:
Its a nuclear weapon country... There is no such thing as encircle... unless they can bear the consequences. Russia has the most number of nuclear arsenal in the world (6500nukes)
So your ilks said when Russia invaded ukraine- Its a worldpower and in a couple of days Ukraine will fall...Ukraine is still standing and this isn't ending anytime soon. Actually, the west don't want it ending anytime soon!

Now Russia is fighting to leave the theatre of war without disgrace and pushing more countries towards the same alliance it was afraid of.

NATO lost Ukraine NOW but gained Finland and Sweden....Checkmate brother! Same objective achieved! We are at your border Russia and there's nothing Russia can do!

What consequences? That Russia will just wake up and rain nuclear bombs on those countries without a commensurate response? Abegi even with the prevailing realities of this war you think Russia is even thinking of going nuclear.

Right now Russia is seeking a way of escaping this war with minimal disgrace!

Read this: Win or Lose, Russia has lost!

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Etinosa12345: 4:23pm On May 16, 2022
Walkee:
I don't get the hype. 32 countries banding together in fear of Russia is hardly something to brag about

Lmaooo.. Its everything to brag abt...

An attack on one is an attack on all.. Russia alone cannot defeat all of them and Putin knows that .. That's why he invaded Ukraine grin

Just take it easy with ur self

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by mployer(m): 4:24pm On May 16, 2022
Reference:


I doubt even if he pushes it anyone will obey and launch knowing their own demise is certain.

Contrary to intuition it is a lot easier to strike back with nuclear tipped weapons that to order a first strike.

In America a first strike has to pass through Congress. No cake walk. In Putin's autocratic Russia the GRU will probably just shoot him in the head.

Who wants to die for nothing.

Keep deceiving yourself.

America has already decided on how to handle his first strike.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by kasim155: 4:25pm On May 16, 2022
naijainstinct:
When you continue to be a bully, the oppressed will eventually stand up and face their fears.

Same will soon be the case for Christians in Nigeria who have constantly been the major targets of oppression, religious killings and marginalisation in Nigeria.

The tables will soon turn.

Bro, na the truth u just talk so ooooo. One day one day those wen u dey bully go stand up against u no matter the outcome.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by rolams(m): 4:26pm On May 16, 2022
Make una help me ask PUTIN how far Abeg! Abi him go invade both Finland and Sweden too?

The people get sense die! They sharply use the Ukraine opportunity to enter NATO.
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by 1stGenAmerican(f): 4:27pm On May 16, 2022
[quote author=Demolakay post=112890035][/quote]

Will you ever realize that neither China nor India have no plans to form an alliance with Russia? All China cares about is money and the Chinese will never risk being sanctioned by Western powers for a country like Russia. India is a poor country that depends on foreign aid from Western nations and India will never risk that for an alliance with Russia.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Etinosa12345: 4:28pm On May 16, 2022
Alexandersantos:
he is not planning on destroying ukraine once whereas he giving them a chance to surrender

Lamba.. Una don dey change mouth grin

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Eagba(m): 4:30pm On May 16, 2022
OneKinGuy:
This is a very stupid decision. Sweden was still Neutral then Nazi Germany brought destruction to Europe.
then there was no influencer like the United States of America

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by 1stGenAmerican(f): 4:31pm On May 16, 2022
Alexandersantos:
remember he has the most powerful and deadly nuclear weapon

Putin was supposed to have the most powerful and deadly military but look how that panned out. No NATO country is scared of Putin or his fabled weapons.
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Rebelutionary: 4:31pm On May 16, 2022
noisy45:


You speak like a novice over 1000 nuclear missiles can be launched at once by Russia and even the USA. What will be the difference is who gets hitted first and who has countermeasures against it. The only countermeasures against a nuclear missile in flight is to disarm the nuclear warhead it via satellite hacking when that happens there will be no nuclear explosion when nuclear missile gets to its destination. Russia has military grade hackers same with the USA.
So what have you succeeded in saying? Launching a nuclear bomb isnt magic that when u press and blink...boom it had landed...do you know it takes atleast 30 minutes for a missile to travel from Russia to the US but with the NATO alliance on Russia's border, how long do you think it will take to make Russia a ghost land...do the maths!

Nato is going to be breathing down Russia's throat and there is nothing Russia can do but complain and shut up.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Eagba(m): 4:31pm On May 16, 2022
Moony45:
Its a nuclear weapon country... There is no such thing as encircle... unless they can bear the consequences. Russia has the most number of nuclear arsenal in the world (6500nukes)
lol
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Etinosa12345: 4:32pm On May 16, 2022
Demolakay:

U mean d same countries joining a league of nations,for protection can actually defeat Russia.And to think,if NATO ND Russia fights now,it will b just lyk dat? Russia will damn any consequences ND fight dirty,ND definitely will receive allies support too,it's definitely gonna b d end of d world.All d NATO countries tgeda are nt bigger Dan Russia.A nuclear bomb can clear almost all of Dem.All Russia needs to do now,is to court other countries too,ND collaborate.Nato is no threat,Russia is d threat to NATO,dat was d main reason d organization was founded in d first place.


The organization was founded because of the Soviet Union.. Not Russia.. The former Soviet Union had Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia m, Georgia etc in it but Russia doesn't ..

Don't spread misinformation here

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by ExudeLoveToAll: 4:33pm On May 16, 2022
Moony45:
Its a nuclear weapon country... There is no such thing as encircle... unless they can bear the consequences. Russia has the most number of nuclear arsenal in the world (6500nukes)


It seems you know more than military decision makers in Russia who doesn't want such scenarios, or you think they don't know they have WMD?

There are a lot of demerits for your enemy encircling you when you don't even have an eye into its own area of influence.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Eagba(m): 4:36pm On May 16, 2022
Alexandersantos:
russia will single-handedly defeat nato and all the country under it... IN PUTIN WE TRUST
Sapa lol.

if these your Lord and savior Putin can't play and pass simple classroom politics how are you so sure they can be of any benefit to themselves how much more you. olodo Russia.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Rebelutionary: 4:36pm On May 16, 2022
Walkee:
I don't get the hype. 32 countries banding together in fear of Russia is hardly something to brag about
Fear of Russia...Ukraine should tell you that nobody fears Russia! Ogbeni dont turn logic on its head so you can sleep better at night...bro Putin aint buying this your incongruous logic.

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Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Dawn91(m): 4:38pm On May 16, 2022
godliman:

Russia has not fought any war since Ww2? What were they doing in Afghanistan, Georgia and lately Syria

You are a goat... When was Afghanistan war fought ?
Mumu .. was Syria and Georgie wars ?. Mumu

Una go just dey open mouth like apere dey talk wetin u no Sabi
Re: Sweden Ends Neutrality, Joins Finland In Seeking NATO Membership by Rebelutionary: 4:39pm On May 16, 2022
kingthreat:


You keep underestimating Russia. Well it is what the media tells you, you believe.
Just like the media told you that Russia will walk over Ukraine in days and you believed abi? Lol

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