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lexy2014:
You didn't answer the question:

How did she insult Mohammed? Can u pls quote her verbatim?

Haven't you read my post? The girl's utterances is so heavy for me as a Muslim to repeat it.

UtuokeAlcoholic:
We defend him with last drop of our blood.

Next time, come to Aba and defend him with your blood. Many are insulting dead Mohammed in Abia state.

lexy2014:
According to the scriptures below, is Jesus God?

Yinka Yusuf said Jesus is the message and not the messenger. Do the scriptures below corroborate that fact or negate it?

John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I have answered your question my brother,he can never be God

gentleguy1975:
I have answered your question my brother,he can never be God

You haven't bro.

According to the scriptures below, is Jesus God?

Yinka Yusuf said Jesus is the message and not the messenger. Do the scriptures below corroborate that fact or negate it?

John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

UtuokeAlcoholic:
Haven't you read my post? The girl's utterances is so heavy for me as a Muslim to repeat it.

You didn't answer the question:

How did she insult Mohammed? Can u pls quote her verbatim?

lexy2014:
You didn't get what?

How did Deborah insult Mohammed? Can u share her exact words?

The audio is still available online get it and find someone to translate it for you completely.

DaveDGreat:
Cool, alfarouq, cool.

Since you've started quoting Bibles. But you also failed to quote the part that said "I and my Father are One". You also failed to quote the part that said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me".

You mohammedians use the same Injil you call corrupted to support yourself when you feel you're losing. When you want to take from the Bible, don't just trim it to take the part that suits your narrative. Read and pray for understanding and interpretation by the Holy Spirit.

still ambiguous. Point out an ambiguous statement in any version of the bible where he said "I am God" or "worship me". There has to be one. Now it has been established from what Farooq quoted that he called himself a prophet and in some places a conveyer of a message (messenger). We now want u to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is God. But if he is God, can another God send another God? How many Gods do you have?

UtuokeAlcoholic:
The audio is still available online get it and find someone to translate it for you completely.

I have found u. Translate it

gentleguy1975:
he was neither God nor His son, rather,he was a prophet and messenger of God

Well that is your rather limited opinion.

Jesus cannot deny Himself. Scripture cannot deny who He is. Even the very Reality you exist in and all the laws of nature cannot deny who Christ is. Satan and his plenty devils once saw Him and were terrified:

During His ministry, Jesus would cast out demons, who would address Him as the Son of God.

Luke 4:41: “And demons also came out of many, crying, ‘You are the Son of God!’ But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew that he was the Christ.”

Mark 3:11: “And whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, ‘You are the Son of God.’”

It is the same evil forces blinding your eyes from seeing who Jesus really is. The Only Sinless and Divine Son of God who died for your sins to set you free from bondage if you believe. Act fast...time is running out!

lexy2014:
I have found u. Translate it

I will translate it for you on one condition, if agree let me know.

Bnladan:
still ambiguous. Point out an ambiguous statement in any version of the bible where he said "I am God" or "worship me". There has to be one. Now it has been established from what Farooq quoted that he called himself a prophet and in some places a conveyer of a message (messenger). We now want u to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he is God. But if he is God, can another God send another God? How many Gods do you have?

Unlike your Islam, Jesus did not come to boss people around by commanding them to "worship" Him. He is seeking those who will "worship Him in Spirit and Truth" --which means it has to come from a genuine and honest heart.

"And when they saw him, they worshiped him: but some doubted." -- Matthew 28:17

UtuokeAlcoholic:
I will translate it for you on one condition, if agree let me know.

according to u:

"The audio is still available online get it and find someone to translate it for you completely."

i have found u. tell us the exact words deborah said that amounted to insulting mohammed

J3susFr3ak:
Well that is your rather limited opinion.

Jesus cannot deny Himself. Scripture cannot deny who He is. Even the very Reality you exist in and all the laws of nature cannot deny who Christ is. Satan and his plenty devils once saw Him and were terrified:

During His ministry, Jesus would cast out demons, who would address Him as the Son of God.

Luke 4:41: “And demons also came out of many, crying, ‘You are the Son of God!’ But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew that he was the Christ.”

Mark 3:11: “And whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, ‘You are the Son of God.’”

It is the same evil forces blinding your eyes from seeing who Jesus really is. The Only Sinless and Divine Son of God who died for your sins to set you free from bondage of you believe. Act fast...time is running out!

he didn't die for anybody,if he died for people's sins why did reply a man who asked him about entering into life thus:why did you call me good? the only one who is good is my father,he went further, but,if you want to enter into life obey the laws of Moses! same laws Paul asked you to reject?

Kobojunkie:
■ Your Pastor is wrong because Jesus Christ is a Prophet.... Jesus Christ Himself confirmed this when He said Moses wrote about Him in the Old Covenant Law - Deuteronomy 18 .

■Your Pastor is wrong because blasphemy, as defined by Jesus Christ is insult against the Spirit of God, not against Jesus Christ or even God Himself.

Save your souls from Hell by refusing to heed the words of these false teachers and false prophets who are your pastors and mogs.

Under no circumstances should Christians endorse lies in the name of Jesus Christ.

Lord Jesus did not speak English. See our working definition of blasphemy below

See below, how can "the greatest prophet" say he was not fit to tie another prophet's shoes.

You are lucky this is not Islam or there'd already be a fatwa on your head for saying this!

lexy2014:
according to u:

"The audio is still available online get it and find someone to translate it for you completely."

i have found u. tell us the exact words deborah said that amounted to insulting mohammed

Have you agreed to the condition, so that I can translate it for you?

Bnladan:
But u ppl said he is God. So how many Gods do u have?

Which people?
Quote what I said and not what "you people" said.

SARSCoV2:
Seems I am getting confused at this point.

Is Jesus not a prophet?

lol. Jesus (Anobi Issa) is a Prophet just as- Adam, Ibrahim,Musa, Muhammad (SAW)

Kobojunkie:
■ Your Pastor is wrong because Jesus Christ is a Prophet.... Jesus Christ Himself confirmed this when He said Moses wrote about Him in the Old Covenant Law - Deuteronomy 18 .

■Your Pastor is wrong because blasphemy, as defined by Jesus Christ is insult against the Spirit of God, not against Jesus Christ or even God Himself.

Save your souls from Hell by refusing to heed the words of these false teachers and false prophets who are your pastors and mogs.

Under no circumstances should Christians endorse lies in the name of Jesus Christ.

My brother, this shouldn't be your concern. If that is what he believes, let him be. You tackling his belief is what they call; blasphemy.

Also, did you know that Muhammad also have so many contradictory words and deeds but you believe in him

Let everyone paddles his or her canoe without interference except if other people are threatened. Did you feel threatened if anyone calls Christ their Lord? If not, my brother look front and accept with me that the accused deserves to be dealt with

Oga lordreed, you see why I dont and would never sympathize with Christians? Very terrible people

J3susFr3ak:
Unlike your Islam, Jesus did not come to boss people around by commanding them to "worship" Him. He is seeking those who will "worship Him in Spirit and Truth" --which means it has to come from a genuine and honest heart.

"And when they saw him, they worshiped him: but some doubted." -- Matthew 28:17

uncle u are contradicting ur sef oo. U said he did not comma d them to worship him, but again seeks those who will worship him in spirit bla bla bla. One of two things should be correct. One, He "seeked" to be worshipped. If true, where?. Two, they saw him and they worshipped him. Meaning na dia bizi body and eye service mek dem worship am without him asking for to be worshipped. Or three, he never asked to be worshipped because he is a true messenger of God sent to deliver the message of God, which he did (theoretically and logically proven). Wait oo, who wrote d bible sef?

byrron:
Which people?
Quote what I said and not what "you people" said.

New Revised Standard Version)
18And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
What do you expect a person that operate in this kind of realm to be called, we agree that trinity is not in the Bible but, christ again professed himself here that he is God
John 10:30-38
New International Version
30 I and the Father are one.”(A)

31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him,(B) 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”

33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”(C)

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law,(D) ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]?(E) 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God(F) came—and Scripture cannot be set aside(G)— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart(H) as his very own(I) and sent into the world?(J) Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?(K) 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.(L) 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”(M)
What comes to your mind when he implied that I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE?
Where does that place him, and sorry to ask why did Mohammed died from a food poisoning if he is throughly the greatest of all prophet

yetunsbay:
lol. Jesus (Anobi Issa) is a Prophet just as- Adam, Ibrahim,Musa, Muhammad (SAW)

Muhammad was never a prophet prove me wrong where was it written in the Koran that Allah spoke to him

[quJeaus is a nan.Created by God to serve himote author=Uprightness100 post=112912215]Very Serious blasphemy! Comparing JESUS to a mere man is the highest form of blasphemy.
But we don't fight for GOD. HE Fights for us. We only Admonish people on who HE is. When you refuse, you will meet with Him when you cross over.

JESUS Christ is GOD!
JESUS Christ is the Son of GOD
Without JESUS Christ, All go to hell Fire.
JESUS Christ is the Only way to Heaven!

https://www.nairaland.com/7130270/without-jesus-all-go-hell#112899338[/quote]

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So Jesus (God) created man, man nail God to the cross and his blood clean man sin as he passed through death pain.
As they are trying to explain who Jesus is, they're making it sound stupid everyday

OBALOLA55:
JESUS IS NOTHING BUT A PROPHET AND MESSENGER OF GOD, STOP MISLEADING PEOPLE MR MAN

You know sabi anything about bible jawre.....go back to your room bro

gentleguy1975:
I have answered your question my brother,he can never be God

Why do you people like fighting other people religion when you can’t even defend yours. Give me a scripture in the Koran that says allah spoke to Mohammed

They are still trying to teach Christians their own doctrine.

For a religion that started not too long ago, they sure are very audacious.

Islam started long after all the apostles were dead.

It's a relatively new age religion.

These Muslims cannot take half of what they dish out.

gentleguy1975:
he didn't die for anybody,if he died for people's sins why did reply a man who asked him about entering into life thus:why did you call me good? the only one who is good is my father,he went further, but,if you want to enter into life obey the laws of Moses! same laws Paul asked you to reject?

Try to understand the context to gain a deeper understanding of what was going on: And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. -- Lukas 18:18

So here is the Challenge for you. Since Jesus said to the ruler: "Why do you call me good? There is none good but God..." What was Jesus really saying here? If YOU SAY I am a "Good Master" and Jesus replies by saying that "There is no one Good but God" --does that not also suggest to you that Jesus is Good is also God also?

The problem is not the fact the man called Jesus a Good Master. The real problem was the man was using the title "Good" to provide an empty praise to Christ so that he can promote his self-righteous attributes before everyone while completely missing the earlier messages Christ was preaching.

It is like me wanting to have some advantage of favor from you suddenly decide to begin "praising" you out of the blue. Even if I was the perfect person who could help you....I would not be willing to accept your praise on face value just like that.

Do you know why Jesus refocused the title of Good to God alone? Before the ruler came up to provide the "empty praise" Good Master to Christ what was Jesus saying before that: He was encouraging those who were listening to always be praying the way a persistent widow bothered a wicked judge for Justice. He also narrated a parable to point out the self-righteousness of a religious Jew who looked down on a Tax collector when they were praying. The point of that parable was that the self-righteous tax collector was depending on His acts of "good works" to score points before God while the Tax collector with no "good works" was relying on God's Mercy alone....and the Tax collector was justified in the end before God. He was also praying for little Children and stating that unless people accept the Kingdom of heaven like little children (in innocent Faith and humility) they will never enter the Kingdom of God.

Then out of nowhere this rich ruler started trying to "trap" Jesus into a self-righteous loop by saying "Good Master...."

Ultimately....the self-righteous ruler was not listening at all to all what Jesus was saying prior but merely "obsessed" with His own self-righteous works...and it did not end well for Him.


Ok....Jesus IS the only perfect sacrificial Lamb of God who died on the Cross to take away your sins. If you believe the lies Mohamed spread and all the false Islamic teachers that have brainwashed you....then you have not done a thorough study as an objective human being to verify the Truth about who Jesus really is and what really happened.

No one on earth can save themselves by their own self-righteous good works. This was the reason why Christ DIED for your sins to take the punishment of eternal death from you if you believe Him.

The Jews know Jesus died and was crucified. So did the Romans. So did many great empires and civilizations before your Arabic man woke up to say "What really happened...did not happen." Dude...you are 600 years too late.

Only Jesus can forgive your sins and save you. Please repent.

xpressionx:
Good one.

Jesus is Lord.


Muslims copied the Holy Bible and corrupted it.
That's why there are Christian events there.

but the Bible didn't have a single record of quran events.
Yet these folks can't ask questions.

what do you say to the above comment with many Bible quotations which buttress the fact that Jesus was actually a prophet?

okparea:
Why do you people like fighting other people religion when you can’t even defend yours. Give me a scripture in the Koran that says allah spoke to Mohammed

I never fight anyone and mind you,it you people that are find of attacking Muslims!,if you see any Muslim attacking a christian or people of other faith,then he is not following Quran! you need a proof?

Bnladan:
uncle u are contradicting ur sef oo. U said he did not comma d them to worship him, but again seeks those who will worship him in spirit bla bla bla. One of two things should be correct. One, He "seeked" to be worshipped. If true, where?. Two, they saw him and they worshipped him. Meaning na dia bizi body and eye service mek dem worship am without him asking for to be worshipped. Or three, he never asked to be worshipped because he is a true messenger of God sent to deliver the message of God, which he did (theoretically and logically proven). Wait oo, who wrote d bible sef?

Did he carry the sword and FORCE people to worship Him. No. He allowed them do so out their own free will when they saw Him teach, cast out demons and perform great miracles before them...something ONLY GOD TO BE WORSHIPED can do.

In other words, He ACCEPTED the worship because that is WHO HE IS. Jesus is GOD.

Out if all the major religions,Islam is the most recent.

Even more recent than Hinduism and Buddhism that were already in existence hundreds of years before the birth of Christ.

They created Islam not too long ago.

It's even more recent than the Catholic Church.

Are they telling us that all the people that were alive before Islam came did not serve God and went to hell.?

God had to wait till the later part of history to reveal himself?