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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:21pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
I saw somewhere there were only a few shootings between 1950 to 1975. As I understand students would bring guns to school to show off not shoot up each other. I am told that like we proudly show off cars students between those they years were proudly showing off armaments
After that shooting became regular
Currently only 34% of US homes have firearms. In the 1970's that was 54%. School shootings didn't exist. Very rare was there mass shooting. What has changed? The number of teen suicides by 450%.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 3:22pm On May 27, 2022
Some stats.

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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 3:27pm On May 27, 2022
At least 2,000 people have been killed or injured in mass shootings since 1999.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 3:32pm On May 27, 2022
Something needs to be done else there won't be an end in sight to the mass shootings. Weapons are getting more powerful, becoming cheaper due to improvement in manufacturing, and also easier to access due to some states relaxing gun restriction laws.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:41pm On May 27, 2022
benalvino3:
If this is true, they are all mad in the states.

Texas shooter was arrested 4 years ago for planning to shoot up a school when he turned 18, says Rep. Gonzales on Fox.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10856403/Dead-Daylight-player-threatened-shoot-school-AR-15-days-Texas-massacre.html

REVEALED: Female online gamer reported fellow player - now suspected to be Salvador Ramos - who threatened to 'shoot up a school with an AR-15' to the FBI just hours before Uvalde elementary school massacre
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:47pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10856403/Dead-Daylight-player-threatened-shoot-school-AR-15-days-Texas-massacre.html

REVEALED: Female online gamer reported fellow player - now suspected to be Salvador Ramos - who threatened to 'shoot up a school with an AR-15' to the FBI just hours before Uvalde elementary school massacre
She reported to the wrong department if this is true. Just like the Buffalo shooter, he was arrested for threat to shoot up a school and yet both were able to get fire arms. I think they should look deep into present laws.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:50pm On May 27, 2022
benalvino3:
She reported to the wrong department if this is true. Just like the Buffalo shooter, he was arrested for threat to shoot up a school and yet both were able to get fire arms. I think they should look deep into present laws.
True. The FBI should have kept tabs on him also. And he should been forced to see a psychiatrist.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:57pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
True. The FBI should have kept tabs on him also. And he should been forced to see a psychiatrist.
They are losing their minds in the US.

The fbi not doing they job adequately.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:00pm On May 27, 2022
benalvino3:
They are losing their minds in the US.

The fbi not doing they job adequately.
Bill to remove police in schools. These guys are just crazy. This was in 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8CGN0lmJqQ&t=57s
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:12pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Bill to remove police in schools. These guys are just crazy. This was in 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8CGN0lmJqQ&t=57s
They need 4 guards in each school.

There better ways to secure the schools. I like to know to secure the schools then.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:17pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Bill to remove police in schools. These guys are just crazy. This was in 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8CGN0lmJqQ&t=57s
Police were called when the shooting started in Texas, but I think they got scared of the assault rifle and stood back. They must have heard the sound of the type of gun going off.

There is no law that requires them to intervene. They need to go home to their family too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 4:19pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
Something needs to be done else there won't be an end in sight to the mass shootings. Weapons are getting more powerful, becoming cheaper due to improvement in manufacturing, and also easier to access due to some states relaxing gun restriction laws.
Thoughts and prayers and inaninities like armed guards in kindergarten, one door only, shooting drills for toddlers.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:20pm On May 27, 2022
benalvino3:
They need 4 guards in each school.

There better ways to secure the schools. I like to know to secure the schools then.
And who's gonna pay for 4 guards per school in a big state like Texas. A guard could earn as high as $100,000 per year.

Just last month, the governor cut $211m from mental healthcare programs in Texas. And cost of running guards may even likely run higher than that.

Would people be willing to have an increase in their taxes to make NRA happy?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:23pm On May 27, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Thoughts and prayers and inaninities like armed guards in kindergarten, one door only, shooting drills for toddlers.
Crazy isn't. Toddlers/preschoolers and grade school kids should be learning kids stuff not mass shooting drills.

One door until there's a fire outbreak. What happened to city by laws about building having multiple exits because of emergencies. Lol.

Just as you mentioned earlier, I also noticed ram has been silent on this issue. This shooting hit too close to home I guess.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 4:27pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
Crazy isn't. Toddlers/preschoolers and grade kids should be learning kids stuff not mass shooter drills.

One door until there's a fire outbreak. What happened to city by laws about building having multiple exits becuase of emergencies. Lol.
The whole thing makes me sick, plus the nonsense our republican clowns right here are spitting

For every other wester nation, this kind of incident led to immediate, unanimous bipartisan gun reform.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:29pm On May 27, 2022
GloriousGbola:
The whole thing makes me sick, plus the nonsense our republican clowns right here are spitting

For every other wester nation, this kind of incident led to immediate, unanimous bipartisan gun reform.
After a few weeks, everyone would move on till the next mass shooting incident.

There won't be a review of gun laws (Abbott already indicated that), until someone high up in politics get shot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:29pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
Police were called when the shooting started in Texas, but I think they got scared of the assault rifle and stood back. They must have heard the sound of the type of gun going off.

There is no law that requires them to intervene. They need to go home to their family too.
Stop your bullshit . They waited for 1.5 hours before an off duty border patrol barged in and eliminated the threat. He was injured in the process.

A handguns fires more rounds per second than an AR-15.In a close environment law enforcement are trained for months to be accurate to especially 10 meters.

Dont tell me none of those policemen had an actual assault rifle in the trunk of his car. The AR15 is not a real assault rifle. Only fires one round at the pull of the trigger. An M16 for instance can empty the magazine by holding down the trigger without release.
There are stun grenades too.

Fear mongering.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:30pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Stop your bullshit . They waited for 1.5 hours before an off duty border patrol barged in and eliminated the threat. He was injured in the process.

A handguns fires more rounds per second than an AR-15.In a close environment law enforcement are trained for months to be accurate to especially 10 meters.

Fear mongering.
A border officer is not a police officer.

And if I read correctly, it was the border tactical unit and not just 1 border officer.

Why would a police officer or officers risk their lives facing a shooter with a semi automatic when all they have are hand guns?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:33pm On May 27, 2022
GloriousGbola:
The whole thing makes me sick, plus the nonsense our republican clowns right here are spitting

For every other wester nation, this kind of incident led to immediate, unanimous bipartisan gun reform.
Lol one of them was telling me about mental health issues like other countries don't have that, young people in America can go to shop and buy guns like its biscuit and people think this is okay
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:33pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Stop your bullshit . They waited for 1.5 hours before an off duty border patrol barged in and eliminated the threat. He was injured in the process.

A handguns fires more rounds per second than an AR-15.In a close environment law enforcement are trained for months to be accurate to especially 10 meters.

Dont tell me none of those policemen had an actual assault rifle in the trunk of his car. The AR15 is not a real assault rifle. Only fires one round at the pull of the trigger. An M16 for instance can empty the magazine by holding down the trigger without release.
There are stun grenades too.

Fear mongering.
This is just ignorance at its peak. I would overlook this post because you do not live in the USA.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:34pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
A border officer is not a police officer.

And if I read correctly, it was the border tactical unit and not just 1 border officer.

Why would a police officer or officers risk their lives facing a shooter with a semi automatic when all they have are hand guns?
Whatever. Dont tell me the police waited for 1.5 hours as the killer barricaded himself that they could not get a real assault rifle. Or even stun grenades.
They prevented parents from collecting their kids too
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:35pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
This is just ignorance at its peak. I would overlook this post because you do not live in the USA.
Some people thinking that living in America makes them more clever than some of us who toil in developing nations.

such a shame
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:36pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Some people thinking that living in America makes them more clever than some of us who toil in developing nations.

such a shame
Look below

Mr "AR15 is not an assault rifle".

You think the policemen that stood back are dumb?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:37pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
Crazy isn't. Toddlers/preschoolers and grade school kids should be learning kids stuff not mass shooting drills.

One door until there's a fire outbreak. What happened to city by laws about building having multiple exits because of emergencies. Lol.

Just as you mentioned earlier, I also noticed ram has been silent on this issue. This shooting hit too close to home I guess.
I talked about active shooter drills here before, I gave up on America system when I read about that, what manner of people will do anything but restrict guns? when we watch over a kid we ensure there's restriction of harm objects around him or her, these people are making guns accessible more than healthcare and they think active shooter drills and militarizing schools is a solution, police were scared to intervene in the shooting cos they feared their own lives too lol
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:38pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
Whatever. Dont tell me the police waited for 1.5 hours as the killer barricaded himself that they could not get a real assault rifle. Or even stun grenades.
They prevented parents from collecting their kids too
Why would a regular police officer walk around with stun grenades? You watch too much Hollywood movies.

Care to tell us why they waited?
I expect you to say that they are part of some conspiracy as usual.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:38pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
A border officer is not a police officer.

And if I read correctly, it was the border tactical unit and not just 1 border officer.

Why would a police officer or officers risk their lives facing a shooter with a semi automatic when all they have are hand guns?
They dont have this? Ballistic shield. The French used it to take out a terrorist some few years ago.
Stops 5.56 mm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTT4XaSUYC0
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:40pm On May 27, 2022
sanpipita:
Lol one of them was telling me about mental health issues like other countries don't have that, young people in America can go to shop and buy guns like its biscuit and people think this is okay
I just tire.
That boy got 2 AR 15 as birthday present for himself.

What da fuk.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 4:41pm On May 27, 2022
Abbott signed a law that makes carrying of hand gun in permitless in Texas, we are hearing debating about what could possibly go wrong
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:45pm On May 27, 2022
sanpipita:
I talked about active shooter drills here before, I gave up on America system when I read about that, what manner of people will do anything but restrict guns? when we watch over a kid we ensure there's restriction of harm objects around him or her, these people are making guns accessible more than healthcare and they think active shooter drills and militarizing schools is a solution, police were scared to intervene in the shooting cos they feared their own lives too lol
Exactly. The policemen have family too they need to return to. One can tell from the sounds of guns going-off what type of weapon is being used. It's no surprise that the bullets tore some kids apart that they were unidentifiable till a DNA test is concluded.

I remember the police unions warning about their jobs becoming more difficult when Abbott removed the training clause as part of the lax laws on gun control last September. We are now seeing the results.

NRA and the pro-gun politicians ( NRA donations) will keep sacrificing kids and other non -important Americans till they themselves get hit.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:45pm On May 27, 2022
saxywale1:
Why would a regular police officer walk around with stun grenades? You watch too much Hollywood movies.

Care to tell us why they waited?
I expect you to say that they are part of some conspiracy as usual.
To save lives. I dont watch movies by the way. My last would be the Titanic. And Netflix about a year ago

The whole thing stinks. Police were there within 4 minutes. They barged in after an hour and a half. Third world countries could have done better than the police.
They were blocking parents from collecting their kids too because they feared an Ar-15?

Please. Try another.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1: 4:48pm On May 27, 2022
basilico:
To save lives. I dont watch movies by the way. My last would be the Titanic. And Netflix about a year ago

The whole thing stinks. Police were there within 4 minutes. They barged in after an hour and a half. Third world countries could have done better than the police.
They were blocking parents from collecting their kids too because they feared an Ar-15?

Please. Try another.
AR-15 rifles are feared because they fire high-velocity bullets at triple the speed of a handgun, are accurate over long distances, and cause devastating wounds.

Parents would have chopped wotowoto too if they let the parents barge in. Doing so could have helped save more lives till some tactical unit arrives.

I lived in Nigeria, when a lot of police men hear the sounds of rifle being used by robbers, some of them take off their uniforms and flee the scene.
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