FirstbornWds:



We wouldn't be in this shiit we are in today if BartoEWU didn't plunge us neck deep in debts and poor economic management.

Simple.

Omo, this blame game na wa o

FirstbornWds:


Is there any Barcelona president that didn't make mistakes? No there isn't.

Did they do anything right? yes, they did.


The same mistakes and "right-doing" is synonymous with every president that used more than one season as a president.

However, the major fact is... The wrongs outweighs the right and that's why we are in this shiiithole we see in today. I don't see how that's a debate.

Alright this is a fairer assertion. I can agree with this.
I don't think you will continue to blame Bartomeau if we don't win a substantial trophy next season. Because at that point it's not Bartomeau again.
Even though for me, immediately a president leaves nobody should keep blaming him for what's bad two years after he left.

FirstbornWds:


With which squad did any of these ones win the major competition that you are talking about? Even Pep, as genius as he is, didn't win any title in his first year as manager in City, despite having a good squad.

But it's Xavi that took over a declining team languishing in 9th position and was closer to relation than top 4 that you think should be crucified? Or you'd prefer not to talk about how we played ucl football against 3 teams and could only register one shot on target under koeman.

Ikon, can you please return back to your sabbatical leave and avoid football talks for a while? You seem to have lost it.

The team that Arsenal won FA cup with under Arteta isn't better than this Barca team in any ramification.
The team that Mourinho won Conference league with is not better than this Barca team in any ramification too.
Rangers team that reached UEL finals isn't better than this Barca team but this Barca team went trophiless. Guy, if shame no dey catch you, e dey catch me.
Fucking Franfurt came to Nuo Camp and beat Barca, mehn. That was sad.
Hopefully such won't happen again

IKON360:

Award for taking demoralized team back to UCL goes to Xavi.
Barjuan won his UCL match, Xavi lost.
Let's say we couldn't beat Madrid in the Super cup espana, but the losses to Frankfurt and Athletic Bilbao were solely on Xavi, he had everything that Koeman didn't have, a great defence, fit midfielders, fit wingers, a useful 9 yet he lost Copa Del Rey and Europa league.
This purple patch he enjoyed to finish 2nd is the same purple patch Koeman enjoyed to finish 3rd and unlike Koeman, Roberto and Umtiti were forgotten on the bench.
Yet even Koeman won Copa del Rey. A freaking basic bare minimum after signing Ferran Torres, Aubameyang, Dani Alves, returning Pedri, returning Dembele, Traore all players than Koeman didn't have yet he won something.
Oya, why did we still lose matches like Franfurt at Nuo Camp, Villareal at Nuo Camp, lost Rayo Vallecano at Nuo Camp and Cadiz all at Nuo Camp, what's the difference between now and last season?
Especially that loss to Cadiz that Barca were just crossing the ball like Stoke those days and hoping for the best.
Na wa o

Of course, our squad still lacked alot of consistencies. It is normal, given the level the players were and what Xavi wanted to achieve. Xavi said most of the players had no positional awareness and the fitness were very poor. With most players unable to maintain a good physical level through out 90 mins.

That the january signings we got made instant impact is a testament to Xavi's abilities despite this being his first coaching experience in Europe.

You're talking about Koeman, forgetting that Koeman had Messi and Grezimann in attack but we still finished third, throwing away the league in a comical fashion when we had a chance of winning. His lack of preparations ensured that almost half of the squad was injured at one point at the start of the season.

Xavi came in to pick the pieces and see what could be got from a season that was fast turning into a big nightmare.

I cant even imagine I am having this discussion. Your points are so weak and so directionless.

IKON360:

The team that Arsenal won FA cup with under Arteta isn't better than this Barca team in any ramification.
The team that Mourinho won Conference league with is not better than this Barca team in any ramification too.
Rangers team that reached UEL finals isn't better than this Barca team but this Barca team went trophiless. Guy, if shame no dey catch you, e dey catch me.
Fucking Franfurt came to Nuo Camp and beat Barca, mehn. That was sad.
Hopefully such won't happen again

And which of these teams didn't have a proper structure and coach from the beginning of the season?

Let's not forget that the team was already declining and was relying on teenagers to carry the team. Yet you think the team is better than those ones that had veteran players playing at a high level and even a European well tested coach.

And those clubs you mentioned, which of them qualified for the UCL?

FirstbornWds:



And which of these teams didn't have a proper structure and coach from the beginning of the season?

Let's not forget that the team was already declining and was relying on teenagers to carry the team. Yet you think the team is better than those ones that had veteran players playing at a high level and even a European well tested coach.

And those clubs you mentioned, which of them qualified for the UCL?

His methods of conceptualising football is so grossly inept.

I can't even imagine we have been engaging that dunce

Yes we cannot blame Bartomeu forever but his damning fingerprints are still allover the place.

FirstbornWds:



And which of these teams didn't have a proper structure and coach from the beginning of the season?

Let's not forget that the team was already declining and was relying on teenagers to carry the team. Yet you think the team is better than those ones that had veteran players playing at a high level and even a European well tested coach.

And those clubs you mentioned, which of them qualified for the UCL?

Who deprived Barca of a proper coach and structure? Bartomeau?
Suarez was sold, guess who he was replaced with? NOBODY!
Greizman was loaned out, Trincao was loaned out, Dembele and Fati were injured, Collado was not registered and the wingers Barca had were Gavi and Demir and later Dest.
Koeman basically had to beg the board to get a 9 and from making noise about Joao Felix and such, nobody was signed except Luuk De Jong.
Or you have forgotten these bits of entertaining information? When Pedri was injured and the midfielders we had were De Jong, Busquets and Nico Gonzalez? Abi na short term memory dey do that Barca under Xavi played their best matches when our injured players came back and all the kinds of players that Koeman was screaming that he needed when they were provided for Xavi, Xavi went on that winning streak?
Koeman wanted a winger and a 9 because we had no 9 and all our wingers were injured, Xavi got Ferran Torres face of movement 2022 and Aubameyang, Traore and fit Dembele who finished the season with 13 assists yet you open your mouth and say Barca didn't have a structure and a coach.
The same team that won Copa del Rey last season, half of them were tossed aside this season by either injuries or loan.
You remember when Pique and Araujo were injured under Koeman this season, when even Braithwaite was injured earlier this season?
Or you have short term memory of convenience?
You won't win trophy but you will celebrate qualifying for UCL what kind of disgusting consolation is that?
Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time.
Look at Xavi, pursuing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not getting rid of Roberto that we absolutely and completely don't need.
But no, keep blaming Bartomeau soon you will blame Sandro Russel or Joan Gamper

The part of blaming Joan Gamper got me really laughing

Yesterday, Sevilla sold one of their key players to a mid-table Premier League club, Aston Villa. Kounde will also depart for Chelsea.

Valencia are trying to sell all of their star players. Atléti are looking to sell yet another key defender to Newcastle.

And this is before we even talk about Barça.

Welcome to Javier Tebas’ La Liga.

Old man was banking on Real Madrid as his testament to his stupid financial fair play, which is inversely emasculating the whole league from progression.

PSG left him nose-blooded on that one.

In his mind, he's saving laliga. But he's first going to kill it. He has turned the whole clubs apart from RM to a selling club. You need to sell before you can buy. What sort of stupid rule is that one?

How can players leave UCL football in Sevilla to go play nothing in the England's Midlands?

A cause for a serious concern.

"Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time".

This nigga be sounding like koeman was impressive
The season he won copa del rey, nigga had all the big boys. From Leo, to griez, FDJ, to whoever you can think of. Messi was covering koeman's nonsense.

Xavi doesn't have the luxury of a firing Messi. But the ones he has and still developing, we can feel the impact already. Though his slip towards the end of the season have left people doubting,he has tried.

Favoritism might be an issue tho.

IKON360:

Who deprived Barca of a proper coach and structure? Bartomeau?
Suarez was sold, guess who he was replaced with? NOBODY!
Greizman was loaned out, Trincao was loaned out, Dembele and Fati were injured, Collado was not registered and the wingers Barca had were Gavi and Demir and later Dest.
Koeman basically had to beg the board to get a 9 and from making noise about Joao Felix and such, nobody was signed except Luuk De Jong.
Or you have forgotten these bits of entertaining information? When Pedri was injured and the midfielders we had were De Jong, Busquets and Nico Gonzalez? Abi na short term memory dey do that Barca under Xavi played their best matches when our injured players came back and all the kinds of players that Koeman was screaming that he needed when they were provided for Xavi, Xavi went on that winning streak?
Koeman wanted a winger and a 9 because we had no 9 and all our wingers were injured, Xavi got Ferran Torres face of movement 2022 and Aubameyang, Traore and fit Dembele who finished the season with 13 assists yet you open your mouth and say Barca didn't have a structure and a coach.
The same team that won Copa del Rey last season, half of them were tossed aside this season by either injuries or loan.
You remember when Pique and Araujo were injured under Koeman this season, when even Braithwaite was injured earlier this season?
Or you have short term memory of convenience?
You won't win trophy but you will celebrate qualifying for UCL what kind of disgusting consolation is that?
Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time.
Look at Xavi, pursuing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not getting rid of Roberto that we absolutely and completely don't need.
But no, keep blaming Bartomeau soon you will blame Sandro Russel or Joan Gamper

Under whose tutelage did this happen? Who was responsible for the economic situation that prevented from getting proper players? Koeman disbanded Suarez beciae he wasn't in his plans through a phone call and preferred Luuk De Jong, yet you want us to believe it's not Bartomeu?



Then to the other points you are listing, my dear... It shows how much you've lost touch with footballing reality. Imagine that you are claiming to know that Barcelona was so hit by economic crisis that we couldn't even register players, right to even some barca B players such as Collado. Xavi got Ferran only because our economic situation was bettered a bit after some master strokes by Alemany and Laporta... But nope... You don't remember that. Xavi who hasn't spent up to one season is suddenly shameless because he couldn't win a trophy when every cule's prayer was even to escape the reality of getting relegated or in the best term, at least qualified for UCL football after Koeman almost left us for the dead.

Let's not even forget that the only trophy that the Dutchman won was major because he had Messi in his rank. Worse, he finished third and had to depend on players' individual brilliance to have managed to have won Copa. But no... You had selective amnesia not to have remembered that.

Xavi's style can be subjected to criticism... Ffs, I, and some other Cules have led that agenda a lot here. We've debated that he hadn't done well in so many areas which we hope he'd realize and work on but you coming outrightly to use other coaches' achievement(s) that had stable squads and had been tested in some areas of competitiveness is completely laughable and equally disgusting.

jpmoriarti:
His methods of conceptualizing football are so grossly inept.

I can't even imagine we have been engaging that dunce

Yes, we cannot blame Bartomeu forever but his damning fingerprints are still all over the place.

I'm perplexed by his takes, to be honest.

I mean, the start of the season to the mid saw us all begging to even stay alive in the league because it was evident Messi was the only structure we had, coming from Koeman's first season. Now, with the GOAT gone, we had to return to the drawing board but we couldn't get our hands to function right because we were incapacitated by the economic crisis that Bart has plunged the team into. We had to rely on players that had limited abilities because we didn't have the adequate resources to bully our way into the market.

Most importantly, our impatience with veterans was actually the beginning of our downfall. Agreed, we still have some of them in our ranks but without a working structure, they seem quite useless, causing us to ax them off. I'm pretty sure Xavi would have done better if he had the same team as Valverde or even Setien. But look at what we left him... Crumbs


I'm not saying I trust him completely, especially with relapse after the international break, but I'll rather we give him till next season to see if he can turn things around but we shouldn't go around insulting as IKON as evidently done because he didn't win anything. FFS, even when Messi was with us, we experienced trophy-drought, even though it was once.

Statistical experts from Opta have analytically and statistically named the best team for the 2021/22 campaign.

Guess what!!! Xavi is their manager!!!!

FirstbornWds:
Statistical experts from Opta have analytically and statistically named the best team for the 2021/22 campaign.

Guess what!!! Xavi is their manager!!!!

He was impressive.
Our unbeaten and winning streak was incredible.
Dude led the team to 4-goal wins severally. I don't think he should be criticised. Let's just hope he improves in his selection.

oga ikon talk say ferran torres na face of movement 2022.




bro u bad gan!
55m 4 a benchwarmer 4rm city. yeah, lets keep blaming bartomeu.
oshey minister of movement!

joviegghead:

He was impressive.
Our unbeaten and winning streak was incredible.
Dude led the team to 4-goal wins severally. I don't think he should be criticised. Let's just hope he improves in his selection.

Exactly!!!

IKON360:

Who deprived Barca of a proper coach and structure? Bartomeau?
Suarez was sold, guess who he was replaced with? NOBODY!
Greizman was loaned out, Trincao was loaned out, Dembele and Fati were injured, Collado was not registered and the wingers Barca had were Gavi and Demir and later Dest.
Koeman basically had to beg the board to get a 9 and from making noise about Joao Felix and such, nobody was signed except Luuk De Jong.
Or you have forgotten these bits of entertaining information? When Pedri was injured and the midfielders we had were De Jong, Busquets and Nico Gonzalez? Abi na short term memory dey do that Barca under Xavi played their best matches when our injured players came back and all the kinds of players that Koeman was screaming that he needed when they were provided for Xavi, Xavi went on that winning streak?
Koeman wanted a winger and a 9 because we had no 9 and all our wingers were injured, Xavi got Ferran Torres face of movement 2022 and Aubameyang, Traore and fit Dembele who finished the season with 13 assists yet you open your mouth and say Barca didn't have a structure and a coach.
The same team that won Copa del Rey last season, half of them were tossed aside this season by either injuries or loan.
You remember when Pique and Araujo were injured under Koeman this season, when even Braithwaite was injured earlier this season?
Or you have short term memory of convenience?
You won't win trophy but you will celebrate qualifying for UCL what kind of disgusting consolation is that?
Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time.
Look at Xavi, pursuing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not getting rid of Roberto that we absolutely and completely don't need.
But no, keep blaming Bartomeau soon you will blame Sandro Russel or Joan Gamper

You are saying the truth. Koeman was your best coach. I don't know why you people sacked him and brought average xavi.

WhoDeyHause:

You are saying the truth. Koeman was your best coach. I don't know why you people sacked him and brought average xavi.

To deh mumu no deh tire u

You have a ucl final tomorrow ,but you must always be obsessed about Barca like your fans

andrewbaba44:
You have a ucl final tomorrow ,but you must always be obsessed about Barca like your fans

It's in their genes. They eat, drink and breathe Barca

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
oga ikon talk say ferran torres na face of movement 2022.





bro u bad gan!

55m 4 a benchwarmer 4rm city. yeah, lets keep blaming bartomeu.

oshey minister of movement!

Bartomeu don finish our funds ,but we should not blame him but xavi as if xavi can even get his preferred players when the cash aren’t available

Anybody that is blaming xavi is a big fool

IKON360:

Who deprived Barca of a proper coach and structure? Bartomeau?
Suarez was sold, guess who he was replaced with? NOBODY!
Greizman was loaned out, Trincao was loaned out, Dembele and Fati were injured, Collado was not registered and the wingers Barca had were Gavi and Demir and later Dest.
Koeman basically had to beg the board to get a 9 and from making noise about Joao Felix and such, nobody was signed except Luuk De Jong.
Or you have forgotten these bits of entertaining information? When Pedri was injured and the midfielders we had were De Jong, Busquets and Nico Gonzalez? Abi na short term memory dey do that Barca under Xavi played their best matches when our injured players came back and all the kinds of players that Koeman was screaming that he needed when they were provided for Xavi, Xavi went on that winning streak?
Koeman wanted a winger and a 9 because we had no 9 and all our wingers were injured, Xavi got Ferran Torres face of movement 2022 and Aubameyang, Traore and fit Dembele who finished the season with 13 assists yet you open your mouth and say Barca didn't have a structure and a coach.
The same team that won Copa del Rey last season, half of them were tossed aside this season by either injuries or loan.
You remember when Pique and Araujo were injured under Koeman this season, when even Braithwaite was injured earlier this season?
Or you have short term memory of convenience?
You won't win trophy but you will celebrate qualifying for UCL what kind of disgusting consolation is that?
Koeman fucking won a trophy, qualified for UCL and had two players win massive individual awards under his coaching time.
Look at Xavi, pursuing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not getting rid of Roberto that we absolutely and completely don't need.
But no, keep blaming Bartomeau soon you will blame Sandro Russel or Joan Gamper

Anybody blaming Xavi in anyway is a big fool

Bartomeu wasted the funds of your club but we should stop blaming him ,can you currently get your preferred players ?

Koeman won a trophy ,you forgot he had Messi griezman and co ,with koeman Na conference league your team for go

Why won’t xavi go for azpilicueta who is cheap when lord bartomeu has wasted funds for irrelevant transfers

andrewbaba44:
You have a ucl final tomorrow ,but you must always be obsessed about Barca like your fans

This dwarf sef don follow turn Barca financial honcho, Odiegwu

andrewbaba44:


Anybody blaming Xavi in anyway is a big fool

Bartomeu wasted the funds of your club but we should stop blaming him ,can you currently get your preferred players ?

Koeman won a trophy ,you forgot he had Messi griezman and co ,with koeman Na conference league your team for go

Why won’t xavi go for azpilicueta who is cheap when lord bartomeu has wasted funds for irrelevant transfers

Paco Alcacer
Andre Gomez
junior Firpo
Antoine Greizmann
Coutinho
and many more. Bartomeu wasted money that could have lasted Barca for another 5 years.
oh I forgot to add Malcolm. The Brazilian from Bordeaux.

MasonKendall:

Paco Alcacer
Andre Gomez
junior Firpo
Antoine Greizmann
Coutinho
and many more. Bartomeu wasted money that could have lasted Barca for another 5 years.
oh I forgot to add Malcolm. The Brazilian from Bordeaux.

The Malcom transfer was to even spite Roma you can imagine how the Warey was wasting our funds ,I will forgive the Malcom transfer though ,we bought him for 41 million euros and sold to zenith for 45 million euros

And someone here is saying we should not blame bartomeu ,trying to praise koeman indirectly because he won copa del Rey ,if you remember we bottled Laliga last season

I repeat again ,only a fool and a stupid person will blame Xavi

Make I no talk...
��| Joan Laporta is considering terminating the contracts of certain players in the first team.
@Luis_F_Rojo [�️]

peterd53:



To deh mumu no deh tire u

Stop making noise. Dead club fan.

FirstbornWds:


I don't understand this but at this point, I'll take Julian ahead of Ferran Torres.

Torres is fast becoming a one-dimensional player whose only play is dependent on space exploitation alone. I hope he gives me that vibe again.

Torres needs better mano a mano coaching. It is not enough to play him regularly. He is being told what he does well instead of what he does wrongly and the proof is you see him trying to do those things he is being praised for instead of expanding his game.

I feel he should be developed more into just being a forward player instead of a winger. He is not very quick to play on the wings and not very physical enough to dribble at the full backs constantly. He should model his game after Sadio Mané or David Villa and with consistency he can take his game to the next level.

I know Barcelona fans are usually impatient with players, but Pep did not easily let Ferran go. The player himself asked to leave. Pep believed in him and I never doubt players that Pep throws his weight behind because he sees football in ways 99.9% of the world cannot see.

andrewbaba44:


Bartomeu don finish our funds ,but we should not blame him but xavi as if xavi can even get his preferred players when the cash aren’t available

Anybody that is blaming xavi is a big fool

What are you saying?

Kilishihunter:
Make I no talk...
��| Joan Laporta is considering terminating the contracts of certain players in the first team.
@Luis_F_Rojo [�️]

Tired of hearing such. Let him get to work. Not d same man that gave roberto contract extention.

If you're going to terminate lenglet, miguenza, umtiti, braithewhite ..i don't see any reason why roberto shld be retained.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:




Tired of hearing such. Let him get to work. Not d same man that gave roberto contract extention.

If you're going to terminate lenglet, miguenza, umtiti, braithewhite ..i don't see any reason why roberto shld be retained.

The major reason why Spanish players are retaining is because of tax. Barcelona, at the moment cannot handle financial plays with tax.

Roberto might be past it but then, he's been tested to a reasonable extent.

We are all Liverpool today right?