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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by nisai: 3:18pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.
You retrospect to avoid future maistake but sadly, our Eastern brothers are too prideful and egoistic to hear you

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by YoungBlackRico(m): 3:19pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:

if you like give igbos 1000 delegates they will share it to other zones
omo x 100

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Billingslord: 3:20pm On Jun 08, 2022
oilykid:

Oh, igbos are no longer tribal.. same you people will always say that igbos like supporting theirselves only and not others when it suits you but when it doesn't suit, you accuse Igbos of only supporting others and not theirselves.. rest Oga
abeg getat i don pass my message for una the rest nah your problem

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by pacesetting: 3:20pm On Jun 08, 2022
Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.
Aptly put!!
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by AntiMahdi: 3:23pm On Jun 08, 2022
Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.
Trash

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by oilykid(m): 3:25pm On Jun 08, 2022
Billingslord:

abeg getat i don pass my message for una the rest nah your problem
Carry yourself dey go.. always changing mouth to suit narratives go advise yourself to make your life better cheesy

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by AntiMahdi: 3:25pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:

support your own and lose honorably.

i thought you all loved yourselves ?

well as you have decided to be supporting other candidates during primaries. kukuma tell your politicians not to bother contesting.
There is a thread I have up here asking which candidate the party for hire APGA will adopt next year.

When last did APGA contest the presidential election? Since Ojukwu .

Let that sink.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Simeonjoe1: 3:26pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

The reason why you still need bridges. Apga has been created for over 2 decades but apart from the SE which other region does it has a foothold

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by nisai: 3:30pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:


Oga I'm a Businessman since I was born to date Goverment have done nothing for me but take from me

I take care of my Light
I take care of my water bore holes
I feed my self

Why should I bow down or kneel for anybody or region for an illusional presidency

We will never bow down for any region in Nigeria and God is with us we shall continue to dominate

Power is 3 type

Economic Power
Spiritual powers
political powers
So which do Igbos have amongst these three powers?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by pacesetting: 3:31pm On Jun 08, 2022
All of you saying Rubbish about the Igbos, is it that you just choose to Ignore the level of marginalization or you are giving flimsy reasons for it to continue?

When Obasanjo was given the PDP Presidential ticket, what did he achieve to merit it?

There were so many prominent Igbos in PDP who were founding members. But everyone decided to give it to Obasanjo for progress and Unity of the country.

How about Yar adua?

I don't want to even go back to the days of Shagari and co

You people talk as if election in Nigeria started four years ago

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by AntiMahdi: 3:33pm On Jun 08, 2022
Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

Rubbish

When the PDP zoned the SP to SE in 1999 and 2003 how many Igbo SPs did we have in 8ys? The answer is a whooping 5 Igbo SPs.

They were constantly plotting to impeach and replace each other.

And where did you get the entitlement and effrontery to demand that the presidency be handed to you on a platter of gold?

You want a consensus candidate for all parties to pick an Igbo man as their candidate?

You see why you will never ever smell power again?

This is his you cornered everything at independence as your right neglecting your betters.

Can you tell me why an Igbo man is more deserving than a Tiv or Effik man since there are hundreds of tribes who have not smelt the presidency .

Why must it be you that we grant this undemocratic waiver to?

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by plaindealer: 3:45pm On Jun 08, 2022
Truth is not part of their socio-cultural makeup so it won't happen.

They are also self-destructive by nature because their own interests come second, third and beyond because playing tribal politics, playing spoiler and denying other people comes before their own interests.

Look at the whole primary process, they focused more on Tinubu, they spent their every breath attacking the man, but little or no time on their own igbo candidates.

They've accepted the fact that they are a loser society so they project failure and self-destruction.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by ThePlugg(m): 4:00pm On Jun 08, 2022
You took the words from my mouth....well said,now I guess it's back to another years of hearing them mourning Biafra

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by QuotaSystem: 4:03pm On Jun 08, 2022
Funny thread.

Congratulations to Asiwaju cool

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by NnamdiN: 4:13pm On Jun 08, 2022
Using the actions of 200 idieots to attack millions of sensible Igbos.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Omoslim26: 4:22pm On Jun 08, 2022
AntiMahdi:


Stop making excuses for your hustling delegates.

They went to Abuja to make money .

Simple.

I ain't making no excuses for the greedy men,just stating something that everyone knows is the truth,even if the whole SE delegates choose one person e still no reach,abi you no check the tally before voting start.
Igbos must learn how to play this Nija dirty politics,as a Nwafo I cannot be seen supporting people I know have no good intentions,but if you choose to enter Nija politics men drop your goodness and paddy with this criminals else you ain't getting shishi.
I stand with Peter Obi.
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by AntiMahdi: 4:30pm On Jun 08, 2022
Omoslim26:


I ain't making no excuses for the greedy men,just stating something that everyone knows is the truth,even if the whole SE delegates choose one person e still no reach,abi you no check the tally before voting start.
Igbos must learn how to play this Nija dirty politics,as a Nwafo I cannot be seen supporting people I know have no good intentions,but if you choose to enter Nija politics men drop your goodness and paddy with this criminals else you ain't getting shishi.
I stand with Peter Obi.

If you can't vote for your own do you expect others to vote for you?

Haba.

When has any national election been decided by just one region or ethnic group ?

Stop making excuses for your stupid politicians

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:47pm On Jun 08, 2022
AntiMahdi:

There is a thread I have up here asking which candidate the party for hire APGA will adopt next year.

When last did APGA contest the presidential election? Since Ojukwu .

Let that sink.


honestly if Obi had stayed in APGA to promote the party these last 7 years probably kwankwaso would have met him for a merger now

Poor foresight in politics, these SE politicians.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by alasane: 4:48pm On Jun 08, 2022
they (IGBO) are bunch of mediocre

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:48pm On Jun 08, 2022
YoungBlackRico:
omo x 100
i dey tellz u
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:49pm On Jun 08, 2022
nisai:
You retrospect to avoid future maistake but sadly, our Eastern brothers are too prideful and egoistic to hear you
that one concern dem
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:50pm On Jun 08, 2022
franchasofficia:
This is an indication that Igbos don't play tribal politics like Yorubas.



Igbos follow competence.


Rochas is corrupt

Dave Umahi is mad defecting to APC at dieminute.


Ogbonnaya Onu was only banking on his long time relationship with Buhari.



If Nigerians had sense enough, Igbos should be their choice cos Igbos don't play tribal politics like Yoruba and Fulani.



An Igbo President will even benefit North and SW more than Southeast

oya na omo-ibo keep rewarding other zones as they no want make u become candidate.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:51pm On Jun 08, 2022
AntiMahdi:


Finally some sense from Congo Judea .

There is still hope after all
hope no dey. they will never still rule nigeria cos their response shows they've not admitted their lack of support for themselves

check their replies here and see

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:53pm On Jun 08, 2022
fyneguy:


Abia delegates voted for Amaechi. I saw a clip of their leader, whispering Amaechi to them, when they were about to vote.
they should keep selling themselves out and shouting marginalization

who dey marginalize who

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:54pm On Jun 08, 2022
Omoslim26:


It's not that the delegates don't want Igbo to rule,it's about voting power.
SE doesn't have the voting capacity and without help they would do very little,the delegates already understood there was no plans to offer Igboland any sort help.
I believe this time the politics in the SE will be different.
Even the SW can't even win without help if the North decides to chop SW eyes without help from the entire South and mb they stand no chance at all.
I stand with Peter Obi.

so wike who knew atiku is stronger than him, didn't rivers state delegates stick by him ? didn't rivers apc delegates stick by amaechi despite knowing tinubu is stronger ?

and hence they earn respect and admiration from other zones. ur own once u can't win you sell and claim marginalization.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:54pm On Jun 08, 2022
Hizzy:

So if Obi lose we will start shouting Biafra you head is empty
you go see am now

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by JovialJune(f): 4:55pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.


Ebubu, I need my money angry
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:56pm On Jun 08, 2022
3ple9iner:


I disagree with you. The delegates from SE should have come out to prove that the SE are ready to be president. They might not get it immediately but it would make other tribes realize that the S Easterners are not minority.

exactly my point.

i fail to understand how they miss this point

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by AKWATGOLD1(m): 4:58pm On Jun 08, 2022
Ebubu, you spoke my mind. It is high time we tell ourselves the truth. I do not think whether we have any Igbo man that weather the storm Tinubu pass through, at a point if you listen to online stories about APC primary someone begining to get high blood pressure.
Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

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Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 4:58pm On Jun 08, 2022
JovialJune:



Ebubu, I need my money angry

Bia, nwanyi a leave me alone angry

On the other hand, PM me your account number alongside your phone number angry

If you give me your husband own I go know cus I go use truecaller check
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by maestroferddi: 5:00pm On Jun 08, 2022
Oshodipikin:
South East ought to be considered for President from both
evil parties that we have in Nigeria but NO. They haven't
played their card well.
PDP Primary says it all. Only 14 delegate voted Pius Anyim,
una own son from entire SE. What happens to the remaining
delegate votes? Atiku/Fulani man don buy am. If Tinubu
shows the tip of his dollars, una go still fall for am.
The ones in APCheat saw their SW brothers stepping down
for eachothers yesterday, about 8 aspirants from SE
contested and lost. Kai! Dem swear for una, can't you
harmonize like Tambuwa did for his Arewa brother.
You can cry for injustice till eternity, nothing changes until
you build bridges across the nation, foster sound unbreakable
relationship with your neighbours (SS & SW) and have a
formidable home fronts. Cry me a riveeerrrr...
Politics of hatred for one party (forgetting that all party
politics are the same) , abuse of whoever is not on same
page with you, "if I no get am, make e scatter" won't fix your
problem. Cry me a riveeerrrr....
Party politics no be container of shoes on high seas, no one
tribe can contest the aspect trade with you guys but a mugu
from any part of Nigeria can sink your container with a stroke
of pen when it arrives Apapa.
Common sense isn't common.
Only Rochas plays politics devoid of hatred, yet una no like
am. Tueh
You are talking crap because of an outcome that might ultimately prove futile...

Let history will vindicate the just...
Re: Igbos Should Start Telling Themselves Truth by Ebubu: 5:01pm On Jun 08, 2022
AKWATGOLD1:
Ebubu, you spoke my mind. It is high time we tell ourselves the truth. I do not think whether we have any Igbo man that weather the storm Tinubu pass through, at a point if you listen to online stories about APC primary someone begining to get high blood pressure.

ike gwuru

I hope they don't start again to shout biafra or death, or resort to abusing other tribes when Peter Obi loses.

Because it would erode any progress made thus far since the taming of Nnamdi Kanu.

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