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Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Is Ebonyi Igbo?

nedu666:
U don't know wat transpired between delegates and the se candidates yet u want to blame the entire lgbo race. Ask ur self why will umahi who personally oversaw the election of candidates in his state be finding it difficult to get their votes. Unless u know wat transpired you are just speculating

Whatever transpired is not good enough to have made all Igbo candidates lost woefully.
Charity begins at home.
Until the Igbo political leaders can reach a point of having an arrowhead leader who will become a rally round fellow it will be difficult for them to get a better recognition in national politics

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Orji Kalu have been supporting a northern aspirant from day one, Iheadioha supported Atiku, while aspirants from other regions are stepping down for themselves, none of them step down for any of their brothers.

Popesuccess:
Orji Kalu have been supporting a northern aspirant from day one, Iheadioha supported Atiku, while aspirants from other regions are stepping down for themselves, none of them step down for any of their brothers.

exactly

gotnel:
Whatever transpired is not good enough to have made all Igbo candidates lost woefully.
Charity begins at home.
Until the Igbo political leaders can reach a point of having an arrowhead leader who will become a rally round fellow it will be difficult for them to get a better recognition in national politics

They prefer not to have one, failing to realize it is how other zones have produced president; instances on tinubu and buhari.

they tear down anyone who rises, and seek for perfection. as if perfection is what is required to rule Nigeria. abi are tinubu and buhari perfect

republican-ism is what i see affecting them here

Oshodipikin:
South East ought to be considered for President from both
evil parties that we have in Nigeria but NO. They haven't
played their card well.
PDP Primary says it all. Only 14 delegate voted Pius Anyim,
una own son from entire SE. What happens to the remaining
delegate votes? Atiku/Fulani man don buy am. If Tinubu
shows the tip of his dollars, una go still fall for am.
The ones in APCheat saw their SW brothers stepping down
for eachothers yesterday, about 8 aspirants from SE
contested and lost. Kai! Dem swear for una, can't you
harmonize like Tambuwa did for his Arewa brother.
You can cry for injustice till eternity, nothing changes until
you build bridges across the nation, foster sound unbreakable
relationship with your neighbours (SS & SW) and have a
formidable home fronts. Cry me a riveeerrrr...
Politics of hatred for one party (forgetting that all party
politics are the same) , abuse of whoever is not on same
page with you, "if I no get am, make e scatter" won't fix your
problem. Cry me a riveeerrrr....
Party politics no be container of shoes on high seas, no one
tribe can contest the aspect trade with you guys but a mugu
from any part of Nigeria can sink your container with a stroke
of pen when it arrives Apapa.
Common sense isn't common.
Only Rochas plays politics devoid of hatred, yet una no like
am. Tueh

Maybe PDP. Southeast has no investment in APC. They never support the party. Nobody dash anyone power. Power is taking. Why do you want to feature president in an Amala party. Abi una don forget? Abi he's not okoroawusa again? Emotion doesn't do it

Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

You don't like or support each other. And you do not like outsiders. There is a spirit of independence amongst the igbos that makes them adventurous and innovative business people. But it is this spirit that does not allow them rally around leaders that they can look up to and build political bridges on their behalf. Nature cannot leave a vacum and Nnamdi Kanu recognised this and stepped into that gap. He spoke a lot of truth but abused and alienated the rest of the country. You cannot go it alone. And until you recognise that, you will continue to struggle for either the presidency or Biafra.
I hope we can all get behind Peter Obi and support him. Because Tinubu was never meant to be president. The plan has always been for Atiku to have it if the Goodluck option didn't work. That way, power remains in the north. We southerners have been suckered once again as we have refused to learn.

Vertraulichkeit:
You are obviously a little boy still eating mama thank you that knows next to nothing. Now run along with little boys and girls like you.

It seems you're the little boy here though

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VandalSavage:
omo iya mi

How would you like your 5 bottle of beer

When we tell them they say we hate igbos we don't hate Igbos we hate the fact that they can't come together to achieve a common goal

Those nyanmiri don't understand politics Bro. Yoruba lagba

maestroferddi:
You are talking crap because of an outcome that might ultimately prove futile...

Let history will vindicate the just...

I deal with sensible nkpurujew not a daft one for that matter.

Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

3. by buying into the Nigerian project and seeing yourself as one.

Whiteangel1234:
Yes �� south East will not rule for 100 years so be it , we have not rule for 60 years have we all die ?

Abegi you people can elect anybody as your candidate make we rest just try elect somebody wey fit give us good economic policy

Let me tell you no region can do it alone even the so called North

APC win cos the ally with South West

Then stop shouting marginalization.

This is our greatest undoing, not accepting our mistake & weaknesses.

Pride & arrogance is our greatest problem.

Many igbos would come on this forum & be posting pictures of buildings in Alaigbo... posting FAKE pictures of brown zinc, claiming that it's in Yoruba land.

Honestly, the excesses of some Ndigbo is 1million much.

They preach hate.. they abuse you & call you afonja or unity beggar.

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Igbos are the real enemies of themselves

Ebubu:
They prefer not to have one, failing to realize it is how other zones have produced president; instances on tinubu and buhari.

they tear down anyone who rises, and seek for perfection. as if perfection is what is required to rule Nigeria. abi are tinubu and buhari perfect

republican-ism is what i see affecting them here

Their false sense of equality is based on their slave origins.

No slave, no matter his stature , be him a house nigger or a field nigger, see each other as equal slaves.

This is the reason for the constant shoulder rubbing and insane materialism among the Igbos.

They are an OSU race.

Chosenite my ass.

Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

That's not true.. If only the Igbos can stop their politics of hate, they can definitely clinch power.
Go to Facebook and Twitter and see your brothers and sisters insulting everybody that supports another candidate..
You'd be forced to say, how will insulting someone make them see things from your point of view? The way they insult people will even make some people vote for someone they know fully well is not competent just to spite them.

No matter how bad Atiku and Tinubu (and even Buhari) is, you guys must understand that some people won't see them as bad people..
Kanu Nwakwo will never see Tinubu as a bad person cos when he wanted donations for his heart foundation, Tinubu (along with 3 other governors) were the only Governors that donated.
But I know, Kanu will be an outcast to the Igbos if he ever tweet something good about Tinubu.
How do you expect other tribes to see you?

When APC was formed, Tinubu and the Yorubas was one of the most useful Southern instruments that put them in power. The Igbos called the APC a Fulani party and voted against it. The few Igbo politicians that entered APC were seen as the devils by the rest of their people. They gave the APC only 5% of their votes.. So do you now expect the APC, to sideline the Yorubas that voted them and give their Ticket to David Umahi just cos they want to be fare to the Igbos? Wouldn't that be injustice to the Yorubas? Wouldn't that be a case of monkey dey work, baboon dey chop?


You guys should learn to shun bitter politics.

Whiteangel1234:
The Nigeria state is position to make it impossible for an Igbo man to make any meaningful development on his own unless he kneel and get the consensus of other regions

We have lowest local government hence why we have lowest delegates in every primary election

We have lowest states hence in house of rep and Senate we are minority and cannot push for any meaningful legislative

It is not about the number of delegates. SW has 411 delegtes but Tinubu got 1271 votes. Where did the remaining 860 votes come from? Is it not from other regions?

From what we saw last night, even if the SW has Zero candidates, Tinubu would have still won. So stop using the number of delegates as a reason why the Igbos didn't win.

Cyberterror:
The biggest shocker will come during the general election. You will see Tinubu winning Igbo dominated markets in Lagos like Alaba, Ladipo etc. Igbos are more concerned with business than politics. Not good in politics.

They are good at Business but surprisingly they are not good at building Businesses that outlive them

The Business is usually fought over and torn apart in inheritance struggles after the owner passes on

Christistruth00:
They are good at Business but surprisingly they are not good at building Businesses that outlive them

The Business is usually fought over and torn apart in inheritance struggles after the owner passes on

To build a dynasty be it in business or politics no be beans .

You have to have the pedigree to make things outlive you.

Besides, most of them Igbo businessmen are ritualists whose wealth dries up when their appointed time to redeem their souls to Satan cones.

The Devil's soul safe is filled with Igbo souls.

Ask anyone who knows Anambra people very well and they will tell you that money rituals is very common in that state. Even their baby factories are production lines to supply baby sacrifices to the Jewish god Moloch.

If they are not doing rituals in the background they are either staking their lives and freedoms in drug peddling. There is no prison in this world that does not have or has had an Igbo drug dealer in it.

And I can tell you that in markets like Aba, Onicha and Alaba, there are hardened armed robbers and kidnappers using their shops as fronts.

That Igbo businessman thing is a myth as majority of them have another evil and criminal source of wealth .

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

This is d reasoning of d average abagworos, the obailalas, d contigiency's of nairaland etc.
Always balanced and objective!
God bless u brah!

Freedom34:
This is d reasoning of d average abagworo, obailala etc.
Always balanced!
God bless u brah!

thanks

AntiMahdi:
To build a dynasty be it in business or politics no be beans .

You have to have the pedigree to make things outlive you.

Besides, most of them Igbo businessmen are ritualists whose wealth dries up when their appointed time to redeem their souls to Satan cones.

The Devil's soul safe is filled with Igbo souls.

Ask anyone who knows Anambra people very well and they will tell you that money rituals is very common in that state. Even their baby factories are production lines to supply baby sacrifices to the Jewish god Moloch.

If they are not doing rituals in the background they are either staking their lives and freedoms in drug peddling. There is no prison in this world that does not have or has had an Igbo drug dealer in it.

And I can tell you that in markets like Aba, Onicha and Alaba, there are hardened armed robbers and kidnappers using their shops as fronts.

That Igbo businessman thing is a myth as majority of them have another evil and criminal source of wealth .

Who is this poor urchin.

Oga nobody is responsible for your frustrations. So don't vent in on nairaland.

Millions of our people doesn't know whether an online urchin like you exist.

Op you can keep opening more thread. It doesn't change anything. It all end in nairaland.

We know the likes of you. Fake Ebonyi man.

stanluiz:
Who is this poor urchin.

Oga nobody is responsible for your frustrations. So don't vent in on nairaland.

Millions of our people doesn't know whether an online urchin like you exist.

I have been to your yeast and have seen crumbling old mansions built within the last 10ys all over the place .

Nobody lives in them and there is always one pathetic story behind the late owner.

Materialism is the god of Igbos

Street urchins, thugs and lowlifes will come to nairaland politics section and be formimg political analysts.

But if you tell them to enter politics. They can't even win ordinary counselor in the local government of their States.

AntiMahdi:
I have been to your yeast and have seen crumbling old mansions built within the last 10ys all over the place .

Nobody lives in them and there is always one pathetic story behind the late owner.

Materialism is the god of Igbos

Lol maybe you mean South West. Brown roof republic

Ebubu:
Very ironic

They need to swallow their pride and play correct politics.


Watch them return to insulting other regions and shouting Biafra should Obi not win.

Forgetting they will be burning the bridge they will need 16years coming cos e sure me die Biafra can not be achieved.

If they voted for themselves, you will say they are tribalistic, why didn't they play national politics by voting who might win.

If they vote someone else, you will say they don't know how to play politics by putting their eggs in one basket.

We know people like you.

Ebubu:
You claim others marginalize you.

Umahi State has 51 delegates but he didn't win all 51 as he had about 30-40 something votes and his fellow Ebonyian, Ogbonnaya Onu has 1 vote

Imo state has about 80 delegates. Abia 51, Enugu 51. Anambra a little around 60-70.

This is over 200 votes yet the SE candidates altogether didn't have up to 50 votes.


Okorocha had no votes.



So where did the SE delegates' votes go to ?


But you cry you have never ruled this country ?

But can not galvanize yourselves to ensure all your delegates vote your region.


In SW, Bankole, Amosun, all resigned to support their fellow SW.


But no Igbo candidate resigned to support another through strategic agreement.



In PDP

Anyim had only his states delegates. Abia delegates voted Wike, Enugu state delegates voted Wike. Anambra and Imo delegates voted Atiku.


But you all cried powers must return South and it should even be South East


You would like to say SE candidates are not a threat so why waste votes on them instead of giving it to a more likely winner and sign pact.

No, you build on that loss, along the line other regions will aknowledge that strong man whom you all support and vote for him.

That was how Buhari was winning his northern states and losing elsewhere till help came.




I'm from Ebonyi state, but if i see anymore Igbo man claim marginalization on this platform, whereas the Igbo delegates do not support their regional candidates, I will remind the person of PDP and APC primary elections.

Is that all? The issue of marginalisation is deep, it takes a lot of critical assessment to see it. Forget these primaries

Vertraulichkeit:
You and your likes don't get it. Igbos don't play politics of tribalism like other tribes, especially the South Westerns do. And the Igbos request for power isn't based on tribalism but natural justice. The natural justice in this regard is expected to be granted by other zones before the primary election proper, which didn't happen, and that is why the aspirants from the zone did not get good or block votes from the delegates. There is no need to waste a vote that cannot guarantee a winning when it can be used to support a winner or someone with more potential of winning.

The earlier you all accept that the Igbos are politically victimized for obvious reasons the better.

And yes, power is given and not taken in a clime like Nigeria which is the reason why the Northerns in APC have given the Southerns the opportunity.

Before you say that Igbos are emotional, remember that no Igbo man has exhibited the kind of emotion BAT exhibited at Ogun State, and rightly so, when he felt he was being denied his right.

Until the majority of the Nigerian power brokers decide to cede power to the Igbos, they won't get it no matter how hard the politicians try. In summary, the inability of the Igbos to clinch federal power has nothing to do with them being ignorant about how to play good politics.

I, OUK, and everyone in our camp saw it all before the primary election proper, which is the reason we took the stand we took, and we have no regrets.

Please wake up from your strange nightmare. Igbos are NOT politically victimized for any reason.

It cost some people hard labour to rest power from PDP and SE vehemently antagonized them with better hatred. Now that such people wanted to reap the reward of their labour, SE who have been their antagonist from the beginning decided that reward MUST be given to them. Isn't that wickedness and injustice?

If they had demanded that from PDP without mentioning APC that is understandable.

Whiteangel1234:
Igbo Presidency can only be achieve in 2 ways

1-- By Consensus Arrangement ( Example in 1999 when it was given to Obasanjo )

2-- By Creating a Solid Revolutionary Party like LP and expand it slowly it will take years ( Ojukwu created APGA for that reason but since inception selfishness have not allow APGA expand beyond Anambra state , it manage to enter Imo state and Rochas Decmap with ApgA mandate to APC in 2014

Stop lying and trying to console yourself, it's not good.
Ekwueme contested against Obasanjo in 1999.

You people must always have something negative to say about the Igbo tribe.
Last election the Igbo supported and voted pdp because of their son Pete obi and failed everyone said that they are too emotional and put all their egg in one basket,
Now they try to be neutral but they are still blamed....why the hate

VOICEofORIENTAL:
Then stop shouting marginalization.

This is our greatest undoing, not accepting our mistake & weaknesses.

Pride & arrogance is our greatest problem.

Many igbos would come on this forum & be posting pictures of buildings in Alaigbo... posting FAKE pictures of brown zinc, claiming that it's in Yoruba land.

Honestly, the excesses of some Ndigbo is 1million much.

They preach hate.. they abuse you & call you afonja or unity beggar.

wen told the truth one becomes an enemy to you guys before now yorubas has been crying fully too election is not yet over we have peter obi still on the Race if we lose,if Nigeria lose out on peter obi we go home and lick our wounds igbo's yes has bad political leaders who are selfish and selfcenterd too but igbos are pathphanders to Nigeria. Im standing with peter the Rock