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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:06pm On Jun 11, 2022
Ibime:
Americans can only keep their standard of living thanks to cheap labour inputs into production in the far East. Break that and there will be great suffering in America..
Inflation, to begin with, as cost of local production (labour) increases, and then a depression as their products would cost too much and make them uncompetitive. That's the same reason you buy China, basilico. It's cheap enough for you to afford.

Ibime:
I believe we are seeing some of those stresses in Global Supply Chain especially in China over the pandemic eat into standards of living.
Yes we are. China closes its production centres and prices are inflated around the world. But even before that, production decreased because of assumed loss of demand (and extra labour costs like employee protection), and the need to restructure how business was done, so China cut back on energy purchase due to assumed production reductions which turned out to be a very wrong assumption as the western supposed capitalist world turned socialist by hugely stimulating the economy with Adam Smith's helicopter money. Then you got energy sellers, Saudi, Qatar, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc, seeing this as their time after almost a decade of begging buyers to please buy, now in the powerful position of scarcity so choosing whom to sell to at inflated prices.

Ibime:
You can't pay an American $15/hr and still buy three boxer shorts for $5 or headphones for $5 for example.
Basilico, this is why your boxers are made in China and not America. Even America's Walmart and Target and Apple etc sell made in China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum:
Obrigardo:
I'm not sure he can read that. Criminal trump fans really can't read and/or reason clearly.
We should upgrade our not sureness to definitely can't.

basilico:
Where am I wrong. Before the WW2 America was exporting more than it was importing.
So, post WW2 Clinton and China made America import more than it exported?

basilico:
In the pre world war 2 era America was a net exporter. Enter China and Bill Clinton.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:19pm On Jun 11, 2022
I doubt you can decipher this but figured I'd see how long it will take you to apologise.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 4:31pm On Jun 11, 2022
Ginna Thomas, Wife of supreme court justice pressed 29 Arizona Lawmakers to help overturn Trump's Defeat.. Email shows

Source. Washington Post
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:41pm On Jun 11, 2022
MSN would likely make you miss the point which you can easily confirm with a search.

In 2018, the Air Force awarded Boeing a contract worth $3.9bn to manufacture two 747s to replace the current Air Force One aircraft, which are based on the 747-200B and have been used since the 1990s. The building of the planes is facing delays caused by supply chain issues and a disagreement between Boeing and a subcontractor as well as a shortage of qualified mechanics, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Biden ditches Trump’s Air Force One paint job deemed too dangerous to fly – https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/biden-ditches-trump-s-air-force-one-paint-job-deemed-too-dangerous-to-fly/ar-AAYjB9H?ocid=winp2sv1plustaskbarhover&cvid=8beebaff4cf44ae09eb45af0b2ee8dec
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:48pm On Jun 11, 2022
happney65:
Ginna Thomas, Wife of supreme court justice pressed 29 Arizona Lawmakers to help overturn Trump's Defeat.. Email shows

Source. Washington Post
Why are they bothering this woman in her professional lane angry

Ginni Thomas did not respond to requests seeking comment for this report. She has long insisted that she and her husband operate in separate professional lanes.
They should just ask Clarence how separate his professional lane is from the professional lane of his wife.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 5:01pm On Jun 11, 2022
ono:
Again, I know this will come up from no one else than you. Sorry to bust your bubble. Read below. In a country of more than 300 million people, you’re happy that “19 million” watched your useless, lacklustre, time-wasting show. Not to mention soaring inflation and hunger in the land of the free brought on innocent Americans than no one else than the “rigger in chief” - xi-Biden.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/10/j6-committee-pulls-dismal-ratings-in-prime-time-show-trial/
wow this guy is even more crazier than basiloco

Loco-ono or better Loco-uno (Crazy one) - that name fits you better from today
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 5:02pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
Why are they bothering this woman in her professional lane angry
grin grin

She does her professional coup plotting job really well but the bubble has burst
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 5:05pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
I doubt you can decipher this but figured I'd see how long it will take you to apologise.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf
I'm not sure he can read that. Criminal trump fans really can't read and/or reason clearly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 5:10pm On Jun 11, 2022
basilico:
[s]
Trump wanted a return to America manufacturing everything.[/s]
Trash.

Only if you know how many companies still kept their offshore base in the time of this criminal, or how many american companies never fulfilled their pledge to bring their HQ down to american cities, even the coal companies his admin was fixated upon faced disastrous consequences - Criminal trump never did much for the coal companies.

But can we talk about Ivanka using cheap labor in china for her second rate brand, or ivanka patenting election machines in china, or criminal trump ties being made in china, or we could come down home to criminal trump stifling undocumented immigrants he hired for his hotels while denigrating same class of people, who these American companies needed to really survive.

The criminal never wanted anything back, he was in there for himself only.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:44pm On Jun 11, 2022
Amazing how media can capture a human mind leaving him bitter, unhinged and unreasonable.
Obrigardo:
Trash.

Only if you know how many companies still kept their offshore base in the time of this criminal, or how many american companies never fulfilled their pledge to bring their HQ down to american cities, even the coal companies his admin was fixated upon faced disastrous consequences - Criminal trump never did much for the coal companies.

But can we talk about Ivanka using cheap labor in china for her second rate brand, or ivanka patenting election machines in china, or criminal trump ties being made in china, or we could come down home to criminal trump stifling undocumented immigrants he hired for his hotels while denigrating same class of people, who these American companies needed to really survive.

The criminal never wanted anything back, he was in there for himself only.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ono(m): 5:51pm On Jun 11, 2022
Obrigardo:
wow this guy is even more crazier than basiloco

Loco-ono or better Loco-uno (Crazy one) - that name fits you better from today
Toohh...that's the much you can drop. Did you even read what's in that link?

Get it in - nothing is going to happen to Trump. His name will be on the ballot for Presidential election in 2024 and crazy Piglosi will be permanently retired!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:54pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
MSN would likely make you miss the point which you can easily confirm with a search.
MSN activism. Biden says the paint job is too costly. Proposed design bears the colors of the American flag.
That says it all
Since when did paint job become dangerous to fly.
Some Mid East royal wanted to gold plate his plane. Request denied because it would have made the plane much heavier.
Paint job?
Get real
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:00pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
Dude, please go to school!
Where am I wrong. Before the WW2 America was exporting more than it was importing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:06pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
So, drumptgh wanted to abandon the Globalisation that America has championed from since World War One, and the supposed "big boys" were against him for profit reasons because they use their profit to "grab power"? After all, "cheap source probably slave labour to manufacture the products they are selling to the world" is for profit, right?

So, what's your problem. Doesn't one need profit to grab the power drumpghtp grabbed with profit? You do know APC charged 100million naira for their presidential candidate form, which is no small profit. And yes, profit includes theft and embezzlement, and legitimate business profit.

Tell me, bas. Who has grabbed the power, your "big boys", or China's "big boys"?
Let me put it this way. You have minimum wage negotiated by unions. Of course this raises production. If you can get a developing country to ship your production you immediately do it.
The country you prefer has a grievance with the rest of the world having been the premier power for centuries .
They have huge population and land and cheap labor.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:11pm On Jun 11, 2022
Obrigardo:
I'm not sure he can read that. Criminal trump fans really can't read and/or reason clearly.
We should upgrade our not sureness to definitely can't.

basilico:
Where am I wrong. Before the WW2 America was exporting more than it was importing.
So, post WW2 Clinton and China made America import more than it exported?

basilico:
In the pre world war 2 era America was a net exporter. Enter China and Bill Clinton.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:18pm On Jun 11, 2022
ono:
Toohh...that's the much you can drop. Did you even read what's in that link?

Get it in - nothing is going to happen to Trump. His name will be on the ballot for Presidential election in 2024 and crazy Piglosi will be permanently retired!
The demonrats are harassing every Trump supporter they can find. They are also painting him as a bad person.

The left after covid has discovered that they can force people to believe the sky is green and with media help they repeat the rhetoric till the sky becomes green.
Its a mind game.
Men can pregnant.

Twatter does not want to inform its new owner how many fake accounts are on its platform.

One area that the left is pushing. Cow farts adds to global warming which is total crap. I have complaints about global warming because they accuse Carbon dioxide of global warming. Consider this . they want to green the world complaining about Brazil depleting the Amazon
Yet plants emit CO2 at night. Now New Zealand wants to tax cows sheep and goats for burping.

I think they have reached a point where media will push a narrative and stupid Obrigardo will believe it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:23pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
We should upgrade our not sureness to definitely can't.



So, post WW2 Clinton and China made America import more than it exported?
America was almost self sufficient before WW2. They made bolts, nuts and tiles.
Here is your problem. Clinton gave China a favored status at the WTO. Their taxes are those of a developing nation,Yet they are second world economy.
do you drive a Chinese car. If you were flying you would be comfy in a China manufactured plane?
A capitalist will obviously switch to China slave labor.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:25pm On Jun 11, 2022
basilico:
Let me put it this way. You have minimum wage negotiated by unions. Of course this raises production.
No it does not "of course raise production!

There is no law that says paying you more, or less, will make you work any more efficiently to cover the increase in wages! What it raises is cost of production. I'm of course working on the assumption the union does not negotiate a wage decrease.

basilico:
If you can get a developing country to ship your production you immediately do it.
And who will you ship your inflated products too, developing countries like Nigeria or Venezuela that can not afford your production at your current wages, or developing countries like China and India that are developing their own?

Don't you understand why Biden's inflation is a serious problem?

basilico:
The country you prefer has a grievance with the rest of the world having been the premier power for centuries .
They have huge population and land and cheap labor.
Which "country you prefer", basilico, do you ship your production to immediately? Is it the developing country that can not afford your production or the developing country that is developing its own? And if you have grievances with a country, why are you doing business with them?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:29pm On Jun 11, 2022
budaatum:
No it does not "of course raise production!

There is no law that says paying you more, or less, will make you work any more efficiently to cover the increase in wages! What it raises is cost of production. I'm of course working on the assumption the union does not negotiate a wage decrease.

And who will you ship your inflated products too, developing countries like Nigeria or Venezuela that can not afford your production at your current wages, or developing countries like China and India that are developing their own?

Don't you understand why Biden's inflation is a serious problem?


Which "country you prefer", basilico, do you ship your production to immediately? Is it the developing country that can not afford your production or the developing country that is developing its own? And if you have grievances with a country, why are you doing business with them?
Seems like you dont get the concept of globalization.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jun 11, 2022
basilico:
America was almost self sufficient before WW2. They made bolts, nuts and tiles.
Here is your problem. Clinton gave China a favored status at the WTO. Their taxes are those of a developing nation
A capitalist will obviously switch to China slave labor.
The favoured will always get magas like you, but I'm not going to be here arguing with your kraken knowledge of events. Read some then get back to me if you understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93China_Relations_Act_of_2000

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_World_Trade_Organization

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:38pm On Jun 11, 2022
basilico:
Seems like you dont get the concept of globalization.
We can educate you and hope you learn. Personally, I'm annoyed the concept does not include free movement of people.

https://youmatter.world/en/definition/definitions-globalization-definition-benefits-effects-examples/

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
budaatum:
We can educate you and hope you learn. Personally, I'm annoyed the concept does not include free movement of people.

https://youmatter.world/en/definition/definitions-globalization-definition-benefits-effects-examples/
Link to WEF globalization definition.
Accumulation of global power.

Trump came in to destroy that. Please tell me that the 75m who voted for his nationalist status were fools, rednecks, domestic terrorists or white supremacists.. And the fake 81m who voted for basement Biden are wiser. I suspect Joe stuttering fool never got me than 60m votes.
Maybe my assertion will be proven wrong one day.

I have done some work for AGOA in developing countries. They export clothes to Walmart etc. Given an order of some 5 million pieces say of textiles. Ethiopia grants these AGOA factories tax free status , you find 4K guys on the floor making say jeans.

Globalization is an effort by big companies to expand their profits by shifting production to low wage slave countries/territories. Cheap electricity. Cheap labor

Lesson 1
Its about profits at the end of the day.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 7:17pm On Jun 11, 2022
Ibime:
You should use this logic to suggest a change in the supply and demand economics of gun ownership such that people have to work hard and long to own a high powered gun. Restrictions that target the manufacturers and heavy taxation on gun sales such that one would need like $10k to get hands on an automatic or assault weapon. This should put high powered guns economically beyond the reach of the emo members of the 16-25 population who are more likely to go on shooting sprees
Team affluenza has entered the chat
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 11:15pm On Jun 11, 2022
Putin price hike huh? SMH

When election comes, we will see if people will care about if Putin is that president of your country or not. Face issues headlong instead of playing the deflective shield.

As it is, Putin will allow the war prolong because the war seems to be profiting him...

So called sanctions and propagandas have been ineffective and Ukraine is still suffering from being misled by vulture nations who only deceive naive and weak minded leaders of weak nations to go to war for their selfish gains.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:38pm On Jun 11, 2022
Livelystone01:
So called sanctions and propagandas have been ineffective and Ukraine is still suffering from being misled by vulture nations who only deceive naive and weak minded leaders of weak nations to go to war for their selfish gains.
Did Ukraine go to war, or were they attacked?

The way Una dey comment anyhow, as if they should rollover and let Russia take their lands. By the way Europe's 2nd largest reserves of gas were discovered in that Donbass and Crimea region in 2011. When they signed contract with BP to explore in 2013 is when Russia remembered they have 40% ethnic Russian speakers there and launched the seperatists on them. As if ethnic Russians are not in every former Soviet state. Latvia is 40% Russian and Kazakhstan is 35% Russian as an example.

Las las, the way Nigerians comment on matters of statehood, sovereignty and a rules based order that has governed states from seizing each others land by force since WW2, shows me that Nigerians have little democratic values.

What is going on in Ukraine, Ukraine's response and the West response is the best course of action to let any country know that Hitler style expansion by force will come with consequences. if you can't bear the consequences, think twice before trying to rewind the clock to the 1930s.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 11:41pm On Jun 11, 2022
Livelystone01:
Putin price hike huh? SMH

When election comes, we will see if people will care about if Putin is that president of your country or not. Face issues headlong instead of playing the deflective shield.

As it is, Putin will allow the war prolong because the war seems to be profiting him...

So called sanctions and propagandas have been ineffective and Ukraine is still suffering from being misled by vulture nations who only deceive naive and weak minded leaders of weak nations to go to war for their selfish gains.
In order to educate some of us; enlighten few things

Who are these vulture nations; secondly what do you advice Ukraine to have done to stop this war. Thirdly tell us what this vulture nations have gained so far from this war. We are waiting
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 11:51pm On Jun 11, 2022
Criminal trump, no doubt, destroyed a lot of people's lives.
And quite sad that some of these peeps are those who licked his butt and drank his piss.

Even more sad this happened to Rudy. I still remembered him around the 9/11 saga and how he was so praised.

Now look at him, a shadow of himself, even the Republicans don't even want anything to do with him.

Everything Criminal trump touches Dies!

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 2:19am On Jun 12, 2022
ono:
Toohh...that's the much you can drop. Did you even read what's in that link?

Get it in - nothing is going to happen to Trump. His name will be on the ballot for Presidential election in 2024 and crazy Piglosi will be permanently retired!
In Jim Casey's voice - I believe I can fly - i believe i can fly- i believe i can fly grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale1:
Livelystone01:
Putin price hike huh? SMH

When election comes, we will see if people will care about if Putin is that president of your country or not. Face issues headlong instead of playing the deflective shield.

As it is, Putin will allow the war prolong because the war seems to be profiting him...

So called sanctions and propagandas have been ineffective and Ukraine is still suffering from being misled by vulture nations who only deceive naive and weak minded leaders of weak nations to go to war for their selfish gains.
Ukrainians are defending their land from external agression by a much bigger country. it's called bravery and self preservation.

In addition, the sanction is seriously affecting Russia.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 6:20am On Jun 12, 2022
Who ever wondered why these idiots roamed free under Criminal trump and nothing like this happened?
Imagine my surprise.

But basiloco, loco ono and other criminal trump sycophants think Antifa is the only problem. They conveniently sidestep proud boys, oath keepers, patriot front, atomwaffen etc. Shame because these unpaid trolls are just as black as us but shameless to the core.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:42am On Jun 12, 2022
Obrigardo:
Who ever wondered why these idiots roamed free under Criminal trump and nothing like this happened?
Imagine my surprise.

But basiloco, loco ono and other criminal trump sycophants think Antifa is the only problem. They conveniently sidestep proud boys, oath keepers, patriot front, atomwaffen etc. Shame because these unpaid trolls are just as black as us but shameless to the core.
Since Joe Biden was installed his admin has been on a crusade against white supremacists. Joe Biden has no agenda other than undoing what Trump accomplished,latest being changing Air force one colors
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