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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 4:19pm On Jun 11, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:25pm On Jun 11, 2022
topsy23:
Good afternoon my people.. The issue of theft in most of our sites these days is becoming alarming. We have a project in Abuja and the installation of first fix started last year August. The second fix was completed early December,. We are meant to start the final stage yesterday but on getting to site all cables were stolen including the load cables to the distribution .

Now who is responsible for this act? After we completed the second fix which is the cabling in early December 2021, POP contractors came and left, Tiler came and left, also the Aluminium guys also came and left . But my concern is that the builder couldn't fish out who could have done this .. Cables of about 2million naira got stolen on site and we have builder supervising the project regularly on site.

My concern is that all the cables removed would be sold as scrap maximum 30k because there was no straight l length in those cables ..

Are we going to blame government for this because of lack of job(an idle hand is a devil workshop )

My client said the it can't be tiler and POP guys because they are Togolese
The Aluminium contactor is a Nigerian and he stays more than POP and tilers on site. Who are we going to hold responsible for this act.

We got to Abuja yesterday hoping that the final fix will be completed in the next 8days.
we as Nigerians should put security in mind when on any dealings.could cabling be left as the last thing to do on the project?on my build.I'm making sure every window and door plus burglary proof is fitted even paintnt b4 cables go in ot anything that could be stollen go in.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:26pm On Jun 11, 2022
Valuepaints20:
Am at your service always
I love this paint combo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 4:28pm On Jun 11, 2022
erico2k2:

I love this paint combo

Thanks we got you covered
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:28pm On Jun 11, 2022
bolu1986:


Not necessarily... mostly scavengers.. they roam around and monitor your movement
Access??
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:38pm On Jun 11, 2022
Rany4all:
Intruders can gain entrance from other sides of the compound not in view from the windows of the security house na, so your logic doesn't really add up. Your security man will also not be looking out of his windows 247 and the windows cannot even offer a view all round the perimeter of the compound, so that is even worse than a down time for CCTV. If I'm not mistaken, I believe CCTV can be linked to more than one monitor, including smart phones, so I see no reason why the security house cannot have a monitor as well. And you can always back up your CCTV with alternative power, to reduce down time.

As for having his windows closed, well except he has A/C in there, I don't see how your security man can stay in there with the windows closed all the time, without any ventilation. I'm pretty sure most peeps without an A/C in their houses do keep their windows open most of the time and this is usually the case with most security houses. I know someone that was shot (assassinated) close up, through his window, while he was asleep.
well with CCTV you need internet to view a smart device or else its just recording.and if its a site without no permanent generator or solar then no point.well O think even Dummy cameras with bleeps will do just fine or go DOGs
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:31pm On Jun 11, 2022
FEGEITOK:


Thanks for your response.

There are upscale neighborhoods in Nigeria.

I cannot claim to have visited all, but the few I have I have not seen good lighting arrangements.

Our lighting here more or less betrays the fact that lighting professionals aren't involved in the placement/arrangements - and that a lot of thought has not been put into this aspect of the building plan.

Your reasons make sense, but my point is a lot more is spent on other areas of the structure than would have been spent on these kinds of lighting.

So I tend to think it has to do with what the building professionals here recommend or suggest.

When night falls the tens to hundreds of millions spent go dark as well.

If you share some of those arrangements, I am currently on the lookout for ideas to copy

On more thing, given the marked preference for full length none-see-through fences, if those lighting arrangements are within the compound no one except visitors and the owners of the house would see them.

I have see through gate and half fence.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 7:52pm On Jun 11, 2022
erico2k2:

well with CCTV you need internet to view a smart device or else its just recording.and if its a site without no permanent generator or solar then no point.well O think even Dummy cameras with bleeps will do just fine or go DOGs

so there are solar powered cameras with sim cards and onboard storage.
reolink has them.
and there are probably chinese versions
question is how vandal proof are they i guess
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 7:58pm On Jun 11, 2022
This is disheartening.

Whistle blowers cannot be trusted too. We just need to be extra vigilant.


topsy23:


We need to get whistle blower around our site . This is an estate with no access to outsiders except people working in that estate . Government can't do everything for us now. We to be vigilant especially people leaving in that area. Those guys doesn't know the worth or values of those cables. Some of them are just wicked soul.

Cables and pumping machine were stolen.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 8:29pm On Jun 11, 2022
erico2k2:

we as Nigerians should put security in mind when on any dealings.could cabling be left as the last thing to do on the project?on my build.I'm making sure every window and door plus burglary proof is fitted even paintnt b4 cables go in ot anything that could be stollen go in.

Exactly my position right now
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 8:52pm On Jun 11, 2022
GloriousGbola:


so there are solar powered cameras with sim cards and onboard storage.
reolink has them.
and there are probably chinese versions
question is how vandal proof are they i guess
Those cameras wont work properly, by putting a Sim car into it then you have turned it into a mobile phone, so will need more than the power of a mobile phone for it to work cos of the Cameras, I can see the Chinese making these for Africa but wont fly i n the west

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 8:55pm On Jun 11, 2022
erico2k2:

Those cameras wont work properly, by putting a Sim car into it then you have turned it into a mobile phone, so will need more than the power of a mobile phone for it to work cos of the Cameras, I can see the Chinese making these for Africa but wont fly i n the west

They already have them in the West. Google reolink. It does not become a mobile phone. There are multiple 4g devices that just require a 4g sim to work.

Example - Your modem is not a mobile phone.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:13pm On Jun 11, 2022
GloriousGbola:


They already have them in the West. Google reolink. It does not become a mobile phone. There are multiple 4g devices that just require a 4g sim to work.

Example - Your modem is not a mobile phone.
Why would it need a SIm card then here in the west cos we have wifi

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:15pm On Jun 11, 2022
GloriousGbola:


so there are solar powered cameras with sim cards and onboard storage.
reolink has them.
and there are probably chinese versions
question is how vandal proof are they i guess
OK seen them looks good though but na money
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 9:22pm On Jun 11, 2022
erico2k2:

Why would it need a SIm card then here in the west cos we have wifi

A WiFi network is an additional cost na. For a remote unmanned location, what use is it?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 9:50pm On Jun 11, 2022
topsy23:


We need to get whistle blower around our site . This is an estate with no access to outsiders except people working in that estate . Government can't do everything for us now. We to be vigilant especially people leaving in that area. Those guys doesn't know the worth or values of those cables. Some of them are just wicked soul.

Cables and pumping machine were stolen.

Part of the cost of doing business in nigeria, it is what it is , at my ring road site , wires , generators -twice , welding machine stolen on different occasions , sacked the first private security company employed to provide security since day one when there was nothing , sacked the second security company less than 2 weeks when theft continued , for 3rd and current, doubled the personnel , and they do only morning , amotekun does night , theft yaf stopped for now grin

For akala , don’t have private security, only have one mai guard my builder put there from beginning , no theft recorded so far , except I was not briefed , or is anything missing so far tope ? although my builder has a solar powered Cctv , someone mentioned this

I don’t think it’s the cctv , I think it’s the area of location of the projects

One of the generators of ring road was found dismembered by vigilantes about 50m from the project , was too heavy to carry for the thieves .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:51pm On Jun 11, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


I have see through gate and half fence.

Same with me.

The difference might be that I am in a gated estate which might provide me another layer of security.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 10:30pm On Jun 11, 2022
rmx:


Part of the cost of doing business in nigeria, it is what it is , at my ring road site , wires , generators -twice , welding machine stolen on different occasions , sacked the first private security company employed to provide security since day one when there was nothing , sacked the second security company less than 2 weeks when theft continued , for 3rd and current, doubled the personnel , and they do only morning , amotekun does night , theft yaf stopped for now grin

For akala , don’t have private security, only have one mai guard my builder put there from beginning , no theft recorded so far , except I was not briefed , or is anything missing so far tope ? although my builder has a solar powered Cctv , someone mentioned this

I don’t think it’s the cctv , I think it’s the area of location of the projects

One of the generators of ring road was found dismembered by vigilantes about 50m from the project , was too heavy to carry for the thieves .

For now nothing but tight security must be in place since we have pulled 3-floors cables to avoid the stories that touch

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 11:58pm On Jun 11, 2022
Born2conquer:
What's the fastest way to get CofO and building permit in Ogun state?

For C of O Ogun State.
1. Application form
2. Payment for publication
3. Payment for Development Charge
4. Land receipt
5. Deed of Assignments with stamp duty
6. Survey plan 4 copies
7. Current tax clearance certificate from IRS Ogun State.
8. Passport Photo 4 copies ( white background)
9. Photocopy of approved building plan if available.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redcliff: 6:16am On Jun 12, 2022
Valuepaints20:
Am at your service always


This painting was not done in Nigeria. Nigerian painters do not know how to not stain anything that is not the wall. They also do not know how to draw a perfect demarcating line with their brush.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 7:32am On Jun 12, 2022
topsy23:


For now nothing but tight security must be in place since we have pulled 3-floors cables to avoid the stories that touch

This should be a wake up call for all honest contractors and artisans. You all need to start figuring out how to protect yourselves against false accusations.
Somebody might be wrongly accused and made to pay for stuff he has no idea about, especially if they had worked in the site during the period.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Born2conquer: 9:09am On Jun 12, 2022
FEGEITOK:
Looks like landscape lighting/accent lighting is not a big issue in Nigeria.

We don't make statements with lighting like the pictures attached.

Is it a cultural thing or a financial thing or that others don't do it so we don't know about it?
We hire Architechs and engineers for this thing, we only follow what they design and build.

You can't "suggest" what you've not seen or what you do not think is "possible". I believe if architects and engineers are creative with suggestions, we will have a turnaround in the kind of designs we have in Nigeria and you will also notice that we follow trends a lot.

If you want creativity in your designs, hire a designer who has traveled far & wide and you will see changes in the kind of designs you will have.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:20am On Jun 12, 2022
Born2conquer:

We hire Architechs and engineers for this thing, we only follow what they design and build.

You can't "suggest" what you've not seen or what you do not think is "possible". I believe if architects and engineers are creative with suggestions, we will have a turnaround in the kind of designs we have in Nigeria and you will also notice that we follow trends a lot.

If you want creativity in your designs, hire a designer who has traveled far & wide and you will see changes in the kind of designs you will have.


I like your response.

So let me share even more information.

Light can make a world of difference to the aura of a property both inside and outside, and can create/set moods.

I encourage builders to investigate this - whether professionals or DIYers, there are lots of resources on YouTube on this.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:22am On Jun 12, 2022
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:53am On Jun 12, 2022
Born2conquer:

We hire Architechs and engineers for this thing, we only follow what they design and build.

You can't "suggest" what you've not seen or what you do not think is "possible". I believe if architects and engineers are creative with suggestions, we will have a turnaround in the kind of designs we have in Nigeria and you will also notice that we follow trends a lot.

If you want creativity in your designs, hire a designer who has traveled far & wide and you will see changes in the kind of designs you will have.


This is very true.

One of the popular builders on here called me once from the east coast once. Unfortunately I was also on a business trip else I would have flown him out to the west coast so we can visit my brothers architectural firm and go out to spend time on construction sites. I believe he would have even further honed his skills back home.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 9:53am On Jun 12, 2022
Rany4all:
If your focus is just about the entrance, which shouldn't be IMO, then a see-through gate and fence rails should do the trick na, rather than making the security post a weak spot by attaching it to your fence.

Ask yourself this question...if you couldn't have a security post, would you feel more secure by attaching your house to your fence, just so you could have a view of your street? I don't think so.

If your security man can be gotten to easily, then your security is already compromised from the get go.

As for the private CCTV monitoring of your security man, while he also has access to CCTV feeds, I believe the CCTV experts can always come up with a solution. All you have to do sometimes is let them know exactly what you want.


You only share some camera view with the security post which are basically external views/ points of entry n access road while the occupants will have access to all cameras.
We have done this for clients extensively, topsy and the electrical men/guru can expantiate further
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 9:55am On Jun 12, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


This is why I specifically standardize on IP SecCams.

Each IP camera has an IP address. So it’s a really simple matter to assign what IP address any device can see. The SecGuard only needs to see the perimeter cameras in my setup,

Also a simple UPS will provide backup power.

Exactly, not rocket science. But people wont ask questions

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:17pm On Jun 12, 2022
This idiot stole and iphone 13 pro max at cv... with the aid of cctv his face is all over social media, now the family has called the shop owner to apologize...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:21pm On Jun 12, 2022
twinskenny:
This idiot stole and iphone 13 pro max at cv... with the aid of cctv his face is all over social media, now the family has called the shop owner to apologize...

CCTV is very important. Every home should have at least a four channel system.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by D4donnn: 1:28pm On Jun 12, 2022
twinskenny:
This idiot stole and iphone 13 pro max at cv... with the aid of cctv his face is all over social media, now the family has called the shop owner to apologize...

Omo that's not good enough, so if he wasn't caught , would they have come out to apologize

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