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would love to see in person someday

Techdude101:
GOOD TO SEE NIGERIA AT THE TOP

abi o

i wonder how much they cost and what it maintenance entails.

smalldoctor002:
i wonder how much they cost and what it maintenance entails.

It can be in excess of $2B

the sheer size of these tankers. just wow

techmatas:
It can be in excess of $2B

thats huge

Dynamitegee:
would love to see in person someday

hahaha me too

they cover quite the distance, considering how much they weigh

deepwater:
The reason this is so is because apart from the technology-know-how, shipyards struggle with soaring steel prices. When compared, the ralative cheaper cost of Grade A steel ( Per ASTM Grading System ) in Asia makes the market more viable for the ASIA market.

some few years ago after the fall of the deepwater market in Nigeria, when the whole driil ships and semi left, I moved into shipbuilding, worked with an European shipbuilding giant. Guess what? while all the techology were complete european however, we worked from an asia yard in vietnam! just to reduce labour and steel cost. even sister projects in romania were being transferred to asian yard. That was about the time the Nigeria FG was building some vessels for the NPA and Nigeria Navy.

Years later, i moved to ULSAN under (Hyundai Mipo Dockyard) HMD not HHI. Still on the same case, while it is the biggest shipyard in the world it boils down to their ability to access cheaper still (not less value though) and their engineering diversity.

Engineering dieversity in the sense that more than half of the critical equipment and machinery on board these assets are built and designed by them. i would have love to showcase what we call owners furnished equipment (OFE) list but cant for obvious reasons. There in you would see clearly the need for Nigeria to have integrated engineering companies to stay afloat in the ship construction business. For it is more than just having shipyards on coastlines which we already have enough!

Our local content in Nigeria is all talk, no blames seriously (dont get me wrong)! Truth is u cant guve what u dont have, our interpretation of local content is all about human resources and not local technology. I have worked entensively with the west atlantic shipyard at Onne, yes we have local resourced personnel trained to handle the machines and read/interprete engineering designs but the day u dont get that spare from overseas, the workers would have to seat and wait for it! if cummis, NIGATA, siemens, RollsRoyce or CAT aint supplying you that engine bro u cant do nothing about it! you cant even rebuild an engine without spares from overseas, so what is the noise about local content. I know some fellow in the hood who worked on the topside for Egina project, those guys have been abandoned since egina left lagos, some don enter street dey press because Nigeria does not have the local technology to keep them engaged. no be to operate sand blasting or chipping abi na to do pipefitting be ship construction o! local content is more to that! a simple example, virtually all the dynamic positioned vessels in Nigeria is working with Konsberg technology. That is what is called local content for the Norwegian people, u cant run a DP vessel in Nigeria without them.

an advise to Nigeria, leave FPSO construction. start now and actively to master dry-docking.... let me ask this stupi.d question:- where would all these FPSO in Nigeria go for their dry docking exercise when due for their mandatory class special renewal Namibia, cape town or back to Ulsan?

I knew what i saw at durign the last symp leg repair at the Sea Eagle, same thing about to happen for the BONGA TAM coming up this year ending circa Oct 2022. I would be participating in BONGA again, buy not in the capacity i honestly would have wished for.

Lastly, its all about business for NIgeria and not about sustainability, otherwise we would have siezed the Bull itself and not just taking it by the horn



Presently in Ulsan for my second tour....

You have so much experience in the field. This was my dream as an undergraduate. I did marine engineering but I work as a programmer. Why is it so hard to see jobs in this field. Almost every mechanical, electrical and other forms of engineering students are going into IT cause getting this engineering jobs without knowing anyone is almost impossible. Why is the field like this?

saintkeppy:
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We should be like Norway or Singapore atleast, we have about the longest coastline in West Africa where Maritime activities like Ship building should be initiated, or is it not wise we bring in either of SHI&HHI or some of those Norwaygian Companies to Nigeria and see how we can synergize? What's your take on this?

this is a good idea

deepwater:
The reason this is so is because apart from the technology-know-how, shipyards struggle with soaring steel prices. When compared, the ralative cheaper cost of Grade A steel ( Per ASTM Grading System ) in Asia makes the market more viable for the ASIA market.

some few years ago after the fall of the deepwater market in Nigeria, when the whole driil ships and semi left, I moved into shipbuilding, worked with an European shipbuilding giant. Guess what? while all the techology were complete european however, we worked from an asia yard in vietnam! just to reduce labour and steel cost. even sister projects in romania were being transferred to asian yard. That was about the time the Nigeria FG was building some vessels for the NPA and Nigeria Navy.

Years later, i moved to ULSAN under (Hyundai Mipo Dockyard) HMD not HHI. Still on the same case, while it is the biggest shipyard in the world it boils down to their ability to access cheaper still (not less value though) and their engineering diversity.

Engineering dieversity in the sense that more than half of the critical equipment and machinery on board these assets are built and designed by them. i would have love to showcase what we call owners furnished equipment (OFE) list but cant for obvious reasons. There in you would see clearly the need for Nigeria to have integrated engineering companies to stay afloat in the ship construction business. For it is more than just having shipyards on coastlines which we already have enough!

Our local content in Nigeria is all talk, no blames seriously (dont get me wrong)! Truth is u cant guve what u dont have, our interpretation of local content is all about human resources and not local technology. I have worked entensively with the west atlantic shipyard at Onne, yes we have local resourced personnel trained to handle the machines and read/interprete engineering designs but the day u dont get that spare from overseas, the workers would have to seat and wait for it! if cummis, NIGATA, siemens, RollsRoyce or CAT aint supplying you that engine bro u cant do nothing about it! you cant even rebuild an engine without spares from overseas, so what is the noise about local content. I know some fellow in the hood who worked on the topside for Egina project, those guys have been abandoned since egina left lagos, some don enter street dey press because Nigeria does not have the local technology to keep them engaged. no be to operate sand blasting or chipping abi na to do pipefitting be ship construction o! local content is more to that! a simple example, virtually all the dynamic positioned vessels in Nigeria is working with Konsberg technology. That is what is called local content for the Norwegian people, u cant run a DP vessel in Nigeria without them.

an advise to Nigeria, leave FPSO construction. start now and actively to master dry-docking.... let me ask this stupi.d question:- where would all these FPSO in Nigeria go for their dry docking exercise when due for their mandatory class special renewal Namibia, cape town or back to Ulsan?

I knew what i saw at durign the last symp leg repair at the Sea Eagle, same thing about to happen for the BONGA TAM coming up this year ending circa Oct 2022. I would be participating in BONGA again, buy not in the capacity i honestly would have wished for.

Lastly, its all about business for NIgeria and not about sustainability, otherwise we would have siezed the Bull itself and not just taking it by the horn



Presently in Ulsan for my second tour....

an update about your experience in Ulsan would be appreciated sir. thanks

tensazangetsu20:
You have so much experience in the field. This was my dream as an undergraduate. I did marine engineering but I work as a programmer. Why is it so hard to see jobs in this field. Almost every mechanical, electrical and other forms of engineering students are going into IT cause getting this engineering jobs without knowing anyone is almost impossible. Why is the field like this?

mostly involves connection too. programming is also a lucrative field though

Dynamitegee:
this is a good idea

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Oh thanks, my Gee

saintkeppy:
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Yes I do know about FPSO, It's a Technology deployed by IOCs to explore Oil&Gas in challenging ultra-deepwaters. This is where Subsea Engineers &others comes in.

I took Offshore Technology as an elective course in my 500L then cos I had already keep myself busy with Offshore magazines from 100L.
OK Usan is with ExxonMobil now. ok, never knew, cos ExxonMobil had Erha FPSO, yes Bonga should be Nigeria's first Deepwater Project operated by Shell, Offshore Bayelsa or thereabouts, it was After Akpo, Usan Deepwater Project came still operated by TOTAL.

Hi. How can an average Nigerian sailor work in such vessels?
I have OS/AB/Pumpman experience and would love to explore something like this.

Iceberg3:
Hi. How can an average Nigerian sailor work in such vessels?
I have OS/AB/Pumpman experience and would love to explore something like this.

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Yes of course.

techmatas:
That is an aspect of subsea controls.

Though subsea is a multi-skilled environment where different professional and non professional work. Certifications and training/experience are some of your surest rout to securing an offshore job

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Sure

tensazangetsu20:
You have so much experience in the field. This was my dream as an undergraduate. I did marine engineering but I work as a programmer. Why is it so hard to see jobs in this field. Almost every mechanical, electrical and other forms of engineering students are going into IT cause getting this engineering jobs without knowing anyone is almost impossible. Why is the field like this?

some relevant training/certification and focus on search of job within the maritime sector may just pull the magic. grow your connection through LinkedIn and other relevant social media groups. there are a whole lot of jobs in the maritime/offshore location but you need to be qualified for it. The maritime/offshore covers a whole lots of fields and involves many disciplines ranging from engineering, logistics, artisans, catering, etc.

techmatas:
some relevant training/certification and focus on search of job within the maritime sector may just pull the magic. grow your connection through LinkedIn and other relevant social media groups. there are a whole lot of jobs in the maritime/offshore location but you need to be qualified for it. The maritime/offshore covers a whole lots of fields and involves many disciplines ranging from engineering, logistics, artisans, catering, etc.

I don't need it anymore just wondering why it's so hard and you must know someone to be employed.

tensazangetsu20:
I don't need it anymore just wondering why it's so hard and you must know someone to be employed.

Connection do work no doubt, but I assure is a sector that don't joke with professionalism. Anybody that has keen interest in working in that sector I think the person should firsts of all work on himself and then make the necessary connection

saintkeppy:
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Yes of course.

Thanks but how

updatechange:
I was part of the team in 2018 ladol.... Shi company.

Nice one. can you share your experience

techmatas:
Nice one. can you share your experience

Had a brief stint there as an excavator operator... It was a great experience full of adventure and memories.

updatechange:
Had a brief stint there as an excavator operator... It was a great experience full of adventure and memories.

nice one! that must be during the project phase I guess

thats a good one

wow look at the size of these things

splendid

oil and gas is one field i am very keen on. this is incredible

Kryptomight:
oil and gas is one field i am very keen on. this is incredible

yeah, its quite interesting and rewarding as well

fascinating

very impressive