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Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by maestroferddi: 7:53pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Shu t your mouth Tinubu is only hated in the Southeast. The north may not like him the way they like Buhari, but they wont have problem voting him. Even iN Atiku's Adamawa APC will give him a run for his money. The emergence of. Kwankwaso and Peter Obi is a very big problem for Atiku, they will split his votes.
You should know better than to use uncouth language....

I really don't have time for tyros like you but know that it will amount to grievous foolhardiness to assume that the north would abandon an Atiku or possibly a Kwakwanso to vote for Tinubu...

Buhari will likely choose to have minimal involvement..

Tinubu was never his candidate neither was it that of the cabal.

Dismiss the northern cabal at your peril...Even Tinubu himself is circumspect else why is he running from pillar to post to avoid the possibility of winning the fool:s gold?
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by AntonVince: 7:54pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Using foul languages on me will not change reality. Nassarawa state has a good Christian population but they are not Dominant. Muslims are slightly more in number. APC will surely win Nassarawa this time around, and they have so many big players in APC currently and all of them are working together.

Taraba is there I predicted a PDP win.

APC will score 30% comfortably in both Plateau and Benue take it to the bank.

If you Juxtapose the 2015/2019 elections with what I put up there you will see that you dont know what you are saying , by ascerting that i thought every buhari supporter will queue behind BAT. What you fail to understand is that APC is a ruling party and control so many state an have a firm grip of many states, so as long as they field a heavy weight politician, they will win or grab a good amount of votes.
You have a lot to learn in politics.
I don't argue on issues if I'm not atleast 98% sure of my position. Discourse related to Cultural and Religious demography of Nigeria is an area I think I can confidently engage anyone.
We're on a public forum, which limits the amount of information one could divulge but take this from me: Nassarawa has MORE Christians than Muslims...and that's a fact! Muslims are only politically-dominant there, just like in many other states.
My position is based on empirical evidence, rather than voting pattern during elections but even if we were to judge by the latter, previous results will only lend further credence to that fact.
If the Nasarawa electorate were to vote along religion line, no Muslim stands a chance of winning there.

See Buhari's performance against Jonathan in 2011 and 2015 and tell me how on earth Tinubu stands a chance of winning there. The prospect of an all-Muslim 2023 APC ticket makes it completely impossible.

Let me know if you wish to wager on that.
cool

Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 7:55pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
The north will vote for one candidate....

You should have learned by now.

The Atiku- Tambuwal accord is a pointer to what will play out...
Na so una go just de predict and ascert nonsense. Who told you that the whole north love Atiku? So you are judging the entire north with the action of just Tambuwal. Know this and know peace only Buhari can clean up North the way he does, no one else can do that, talk less of Atiku. Buhari will not be on the ballot but he will support his party.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 7:59pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
You should know better than to use uncouth language....

I really don't have time for tyros like you but know that it will amount to grievous foolhardiness to assume that the north would abandon an Atiku or possibly a Kwakwanso to vote for Tinubu...

Buhari will likely choose to have minimal involvement..

Tinubu was never his candidate neither was it that of the cabal.

Dismiss the northern cabal at your peril...Even Tinubu himself is circumspect else why is he running from pillar to post to avoid the possibility of winning the fool:s gold?
Northern Cabal that couldn't stop Tinubu from clinching the Ruling party ticket, same cabal you guys wherr sure will deny him the ticket. Its either the So called cabals do not exist or they dont have political influence.

As minimal as Buahri influence might be, one thing is certain, Atiku will not get the northern votes same way buhari did. He will win some states and lose some.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by maestroferddi: 8:03pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Na so una go just de predict and ascert nonsense. Who told you that the whole north love Atiku? So you are judging the entire north with the action of just Tambuwal. Know this and know peace only Buhari can clean up North the way he does, no one else can do that, talk less of Atiku. Buhari will not be on the ballot but he will support his party.
I don't like wasting my bullets on weak arguments and emotional assertions...

Atiku Abubakar is the most formidable politician in the whole of northern Nigeria.

It is generally believed that he won the 2019 election but was rigged out.

Minus the tsunami Peter Obi is about to unleash, Atiku should be preparing his victory speech.

I have no time for noise-making...
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by maestroferddi: 8:06pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Northern Cabal that couldn't stop Tinubu from clinching the Ruling party ticket, same cabal you guys wherr sure will deny him the ticket. Its either the So called cabals do not exist or they dont have political influence.

As minimal as Buahri influence might be, one thing is certain, Atiku will not get the northern votes same way buhari did. He will win some states and lose some.
lol...

Most informed people already knew the outcome of the primaries..

Only you guys are celebrating what will probably prove to be a pyrrhic victory..
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by garfield1: 8:11pm On Jun 13, 2022
Cc vicdom,fergie001, kyase,kahal,penguin2
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by garfield1: 8:12pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
lol...

Most informed people already knew the outcome of the primaries..

Only you guys are celebrating what will probably prove to be a pyrrhic victory..
A victory is a victory
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by techWriter3: 8:12pm On Jun 13, 2022
You really strove
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 8:15pm On Jun 13, 2022
AntonVince:
I don't argue on issues if I'm not atleast 98% sure of my position.
We're on a public forum, which limits the amount of information one could divulge but take this from me: Nassarawa has MORE Christians than Muslims...and that's a fact!
My position is based on empirical evidence, rather than voting pattern during elections but even if we were to judge by the latter, previous results will only lend further credence to that fact.
If the Nasarawa electorate were to vote along religion line, no Muslim stands a chance of winning there.

See Buhari's performance against Jonathan in 2011 and 2015 and tell me how on earth Tinubu stands a chance of winning there. The prospect of an all-Muslim 2023 APC ticket makes it completely impossible.

Let me know if you wish to wager on that.
cool
Oga where you know for Nassarawa? What of Buhari's performance in 2019? In 2011 Nassarawa was a PDP state and PDP was in power federal. Almakura won Akwe doma of PDP and became the only CPC governor in Nigeria, All the heavyweights are in PDP and are mostly Muslims. Even Solomon Ewuga won his Tiny Akwanga Zone with CPC. Abdullahi Adamu won the Keffi zone, Mohammed Adokwe won the Lafia zone all under PDP. Now all those heavy weights are now in APC, the party is now more entrenched in the state.

Keffi- Dominated by Muslims.
Kokona- divided, with slight Christian majority.
Lafia - Massivley Muslim dominated. Lafia is the most populated LGA in the state, infact the population of Lafia is about the same with the entire Akwanga zone senatorial district with Nassarawa Eggon and Wamba.
Karu- close to FCT high populated but cosmopolitan, divided religion.

Nassarawa and Toto- Muslim dominated.
Nassarawa Eggon and Wamba- Christian dominated.
Awe, Doma, Keana and Obi - Slightly Muslim dominated.

Nassarawa has a good number of Christians but Muslims have a slight majority.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by raumdeuter: 8:15pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
lol...

Most informed people already knew the outcome of the primaries..

Only you guys are celebrating what will probably prove to be a pyrrhic victory..
Does the guy below qualify as an informed person because he was off mark

maestroferddi:
Tinubu has never been in the equation from the outset.

Popcorn in hand...less one week to go..
maestroferddi:
Tinubu will not get APC.

How come you cannot read the signs?
maestroferddi:
The last time I checked, Peter Obi is a frontline presidential aspirant...

Tinubu is now probably looking for the smartest SANs around in anticipation of the EFCC onslaught coming his way after the crass statements trying to denigrate Buhari.

Nigeria is the winner...
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 8:17pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
lol...

Most informed people already knew the outcome of the primaries..

Only you guys are celebrating what will probably prove to be a pyrrhic victory..
Same informed people that were sure that Tinubu will not get the APC ticket.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 8:20pm On Jun 13, 2022
maestroferddi:
I don't like wasting my bullets on weak arguments and emotional assertions...

Atiku Abubakar is the most formidable politician in the whole of northern Nigeria.

It is generally believed that he won the 2019 election but was rigged out.

Minus the tsunami Peter Obi is about to unleash, Atiku should be preparing his victory speech.

I have no time for noise-making...
Its generally believed by the PDP deluded goons who thought he won at the back-end server. Keep decieving yourself. Buhari defeated Atiku in 2019 fair and square.

Know this and know peace, Peter Obi will not cause any Tsunami he will not get more than 5% in the entire north, will only win in Southeast where he will successfully waste the votes that ordinarily belongs to Atiku.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:22pm On Jun 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
He is always wrong below are some of his quotes



Wrong APC fielded a Southerner



Wrong again Onnoghen resigned



Wrong once again Gbaja won



Wrong again APC won Kwara

Just take anything chukwudi44 says and bet on the opposite. He is the reverse Midas, anything he touches turns to shit

Now that he is following Obi, expect Obi to either drop out of the contest or lose woefully
MrJanuzaj:
Pmb will also hand Federal power to Obiano to deal with Peter Obigot, Obiano and APGA are fully in support of PMB, Obi the bigot and Northern hater will be decimated in Anambra by the combined effort of Ngige, Andy Uba, Authur Eze, Emeka Offor, Victor Umeh, Tony Nwoye and Willie Himself.

In Abia state, Alex Otti of APGA is the next governor of Abia state, go and write it down somewhere, Abia state is the capital of IPOB and they will not vote Alex Otti and Uche Ogah will give PDP a veryyyy close fight.

Gov. Umahi is a good friend of Ogbonnaya Onu he will deliver Ebonyi to PMB.

In imo APC already have PACT will APGA to deliver him, Rochas has reaffirmed his support for PMB and they will drop animosity with Uzodiimma and Eze Madumere and co to deliver PMB here,. With Ararume, Osita Izunaso, Rochas, Madumere, Senator Benjamin Uwajimuogu, Theodore Ekechi, Hope Uzodiimma, Prof Anwuka Mark my word, APGA will win imo in Governorship, PMB will clinch presidential in Imo.
The same your earlier prophecies all failed like a pack of cards.

Imagine the audacity to say Buhari will win presidential election in imo state along with other failed prophecies
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 8:23pm On Jun 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Does the guy below qualify as an informed person because he was off mark
Leave that Hater, every election, he and some notable friends will jump into nairaland to be making wild predictions that are most times widely off the mark. The come here projecting their wishful thinkings. They were so sure BAT will not get the APC ticket due the cabals, now the same cabals who could not stop him against few delegates will stop in a wide open general elections
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:27pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Senatordave always like to be modest with his calculations, you are very right. Even in the Southeast Rochas will get 40% in Imo and create a very big voters apathy among the PDP supporters, Willie Obiano and Victor Umeh will deal with Peter Obi in Anambra, Umahi will be too uninterested in Ebonyi. Just Kano and Katsina will wipe out whatever margin PDP might have in SS/SE. The choice of peter Obi has even triggered more hate for Atiku, up north
Another failed prediction in 2018!!

Na where APC see 40% in imo state.PDP ended up flogging the APC mercilessly in Anambra state
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by nameo: 8:28pm On Jun 13, 2022
raumdeuter:
Politics is not about emotions. Its about numbers and structures on ground. The fact is that all those in LP and NNPP 90% of them wont have voted for APC regardless. So its just splitting the supposed PDP bloc

For PDP to win, they need to continue working on making Obi and Kwankwanso to step down and support Atiku
For APC to win, they need to continue working on making Obi and Kwankwanso remain strong and grow even stronger

I think PDP will win more than 1 SE states. I see PDP winning 3 out of 5 SE states. And APC winning Bauchi and another Northern state
With todays energy, I am thinking
It might be closer to APC 17, PDP 17 states, LP 2 states NNPP 1 state. Margin of less than 1milion
Didnt want to comment on this thread cos most of you guys are just clowns.

But if you think PDP or any party will win Obi in any of the SE states, then you are delusional.

The SE is the only region that will give a Presidential candidate BLOCK vote in tbe coming election.

And you gave Tinubu essentially a landslide in the SW? It is like you are completely unaware of the momemtum and movement in the SW currently. And plzz dont tell me Yorubas will vote their own ish: APC almost lost the SW last election to a northerner(in fact but for some rigging and subdued votes in Osun and Lagos, they may actually havd lost the SW to Atiku) even when they had a VP candidate in the ballot! I hope you know the dymanics that drove that election.

Just wait let the real campaign start. You will understand that people everywhere in Nigeria are completely TIRED of the situation in Nigeria currently. As in, totally tired. And that by the way is the major advantage of Peter Obi and maybe Kwankwaso.

And the campaign is a long time away. About 8 months!!

Go figure
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 8:30pm On Jun 13, 2022
PaChukwudi44:
Another failed prediction in 2018!!

Na where APC see 40% in imo state.PDP ended up flogging the APC mercilessly in Anambra state
Stop talking nonsense, how many elections have Obi won in Anambra, since he left APGA, he has consistently failed all his elections. APC did well in Imo, Ebonyi and Abia to clinch 25%. At least it was better than 2015 were he couldn't get the 25%. Thats the target. The votes were enough for him to flog PDP generally
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by AntonVince: 8:34pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Oga where you know for Nassarawa? What of Buhari's performance in 2019? In 2011 Nassarawa was a PDP state and PDP was in power federal. Almakura won Akwe doma of PDP and became the only CPC governor in Nigeria, All the heavyweights are in PDP and are mostly Muslims. Even Solomon Ewuga won his Tiny Akwanga Zone with CPC. Abdullahi Adamu won the Keffi zone, Mohammed Adokwe won the Lafia zone all under PDP. Now all those heavy weights are now in APC, the party is now more entrenched in the state.

Keffi- Dominated by Muslims.
Kokona- divided, with slight Christian majority.
Lafia - Massivley Muslim dominated. Lafia is the most populated LGA in the state, infact the population of Lafia is about the same with the entire Akwanga zone senatorial district with Nassarawa Eggon and Wamba.
Karu- close to FCT high populated but cosmopolitan, divided religion.\

Was the PDP not in power with virtually no opposition at all when Buhari and his ANPP/CPC pummeled OBJ and Jonathan in virtually all the core northern states in 2003 and 2011?

Your reference to 2019 election involving Buhari Vs Atiku isn't valid for this discourse.
I'm done here. See you in 2023.

Nassarawa and Toto- Muslim dominated.
Nassarawa Eggon and Wamba- Christian dominated.
Awe, Doma, Keana and Obi - Slightly Muslim dominated.

Nassarawa has a good number of Christians but Muslims have a slight majority.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by PaChukwudi44(m): 8:36pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Stop talking nonsense, how many elections have Obi won in Anambra, since he left APGA, he has consistently failed all his elections. APC did well in Imo, Ebonyi and Abia to clinch 25%. At least it was better than 2015 were he couldn't get the 25%. Thats the target. The votes were enough for him to flog PDP generally
Lol you were talking about the 2019 presidential elections.

Peter Obi won the presidential election in Anambra state in 2019 mercilessly trouncing the APC candidate who could not even secure 5% of the votes in the elections.

You also claimed Buhari was going to win in imo.Failed predictions just like the ones you are currently doing
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by Kyase(m): 9:24pm On Jun 13, 2022
garfield1:
Cc vicdom,fergie001, kyase,kahal,penguin2
All these will change, immediately they pick their running mates
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by fergie001(mod): 9:37pm On Jun 13, 2022
Kyase:
All these will change, immediately they pick their running mates
That's what I am waiting for.

After June 17,.... We will know better.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by garfield1: 9:49pm On Jun 13, 2022
Kyase:
All these will change, immediately they pick their running mates
Very little...I dont see what udom or okowa will do for wike
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by garfield1: 10:00pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Leave that Hater, every election, he and some notable friends will jump into nairaland to be making wild predictions that are most times widely off the mark. The come here projecting their wishful thinkings. They were so sure BAT will not get the APC ticket due the cabals, now the same cabals who could not stop him against few delegates will stop in a wide open general elections
I agree 80% except with few changes.apc has a slight advantage in guber polls in bauchi and tinubu will win bauchi.bauchi is a state that vote massively for apc,atiku can't win such states.they can't just flip.gombe is even more likely to go to pdp...
Apc will have a bigger margin in katsina, at least 500k.its biggest margin in the north will come from there or borno...in Benue,rev alia of apc is already governor in waiting...pdp will likely win plateau guber
Tinubu winning margin will be narrow in ekiti and ondo...tinubu will have at least 35% in crs and 30% in aks and 25% in rivers.he will lose ebonyi narrowly,get at lest 10% in anambra and Enugu and get 25% in IMO.as tinubu will perform worse than buhsri in the north,he will perform better thsn buhari in ss/se.gov hope won't remain aloof during the presidential polls,his reelection will depend on apc retaining aso villa... I agree in other areas.overall,top class prediction
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by nnofaith: 10:02pm On Jun 13, 2022
Bola Tinubu is you next president, know that and know peace, the election would have been a lot tougher for him, but the emergence of Peter Obi and Kwankwanso has given Apc a free ride to the presidency.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by Kyase(m): 10:08pm On Jun 13, 2022
garfield1:
Very little...I dont see what udom or okowa will do for wike
Im talking about APC

How far you never reply my PVC question
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by Kyase(m): 10:11pm On Jun 13, 2022
fergie001:
That's what I am waiting for.

After June 17,.... We will know better.
Just dey here dey wait
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by LILTJAY: 10:13pm On Jun 13, 2022
Iamgrey5:
Lp can't get more than 10% in most states in the East not to talk of Lagos.

Tinubu can't win Niger State.
lp go only get that ampunt on internet.. we for grpund know as he they go...
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by MrJanuzaj(op): 10:28pm On Jun 13, 2022
garfield1:
I agree 80% except with few changes.apc has a slight advantage in guber polls in bauchi and tinubu will win bauchi.bauchi is a state that vote massively for apc,atiku can't win such states.they can't just flip.gombe is even more likely to go to pdp...
Apc will have a bigger margin in katsina, at least 500k.its biggest margin in the north will come from there or borno...in Benue,rev alia of apc is already governor in waiting...pdp will likely win plateau guber
Tinubu winning margin will be narrow in ekiti and ondo...tinubu will have at least 35% in crs and 30% in aks and 25% in rivers.he will lose ebonyi narrowly,get at lest 10% in anambra and Enugu and get 25% in IMO.as tinubu will perform worse than buhsri in the north,he will perform better thsn buhari in ss/se.gov hope won't remain aloof during the presidential polls,his reelection will depend on apc retaining aso villa... I agree in other areas.overall,top class prediction
Alright nice one, but why will Tinubu win just narrowly in Ondo and Ekiti? I dont think Fayose and Oni will oppose him.

Tinibu wlll do well in Ebonyi but will not score up to 10% in Anambra and Enugu.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by vicdom(m): 10:33pm On Jun 13, 2022
garfield1:
I agree 80% except with few changes.apc has a slight advantage in guber polls in bauchi and tinubu will win bauchi.bauchi is a state that vote massively for apc,atiku can't win such states.they can't just flip.gombe is even more likely to go to pdp...
Apc will have a bigger margin in katsina, at least 500k.its biggest margin in the north will come from there or borno...in Benue,rev alia of apc is already governor in waiting...pdp will likely win plateau guber
Tinubu winning margin will be narrow in ekiti and ondo...tinubu will have at least 35% in crs and 30% in aks and 25% in rivers.he will lose ebonyi narrowly,get at lest 10% in anambra and Enugu and get 25% in IMO.as tinubu will perform worse than buhsri in the north,he will perform better thsn buhari in ss/se.gov hope won't remain aloof during the presidential polls,his reelection will depend on apc retaining aso villa... I agree in other areas.overall,top class prediction
Guy, it seems you don't get it. If Tinubu picks a Muslim, it will greatly affect him in both ss and se. All the pastors are waiting for apc to field a Muslim Muslim ticket, then you will understand.
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by Anugoson(m): 10:50pm On Jun 13, 2022
MrJanuzaj:
Northern Cabal that couldn't stop Tinubu from clinching the Ruling party ticket, same cabal you guys wherr sure will deny him the ticket. Its either the So called cabals do not exist or they dont have political influence.

As minimal as Buahri influence might be, one thing is certain, Atiku will not get the northern votes same way buhari did. He will win some states and lose some.
Spot on!
Re: Early Forecast On The 2023 Presidential Election. by raumdeuter: 10:54pm On Jun 13, 2022
vicdom:
Guy, it seems you don't get it. If Tinubu picks a Muslim, it will greatly affect him in both ss and se. All the pastors are waiting for apc to field a Muslim Muslim ticket, then you will understand.
If Tinubu picks CAN president as vice, he will still lose SE and SS
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