ono:


How a human being in this world will be living and have a view about babies like this mortal has stated here is the reason the whole world lies in darkness and governed by foul beings in high places. But we thank God, He's not going to allow their type to be in the majority. They will always and perpetually be in the minority and will be eliminated from the earth!

May the good Lord have mercy on your soul and free you from the demons of Hell!

Ya andi ya fanatiscm

Witi da many churches andi mosque Ina naijeriya, God blessings ah skips naijeriya so many times we ah nows ones ofu da biggest shitholes Ina da uniferse.

benalvino3:

Again, according to you, abortion should be legal because they can't police it. lol.

That is according to you, Ben. And law abiding Planned Parenthood may have closed down but the quack performing secret abortions just opened shop.

For me, abortion should be legal because illegalising abortions only make people go seek secret abortions which you can not police, nor can you stop me crossing the border into a state that does not criminalise me for aborting you.

basilico:


Tell us more about civil war . Is it democrats or Republicans who wanted to keep their slaves. Jim Crow was a democrat too.

Again . The Supreme Court should not be making laws. It should interpret the constitution as written.

Ya andi ya lows IQ post allu da times

Kikikikikikiki

Timiofak:


You do have a point I agree

It should be law

But my point right here is

They are numerous Supreme Court landmarks that aren’t laws

For example brown v board of education; there is no exact law upholding it

But it is a settled precedent

But it’s obvious if more right wing judges get there they can turn it an leave it to state right.

Which is absolutely bullshit

Oh my You must be a casanova judging from the way you are in favor of abortions. Easy for you. Just make out and if things go wrong Roe v Wade makes sure you never pay child support.
Just my opinion. In other words I think you are stating matters out of personal interests.

benalvino3:


Kachills:


You:


tell us what you mean about your words. you are discussing the rights of Guns and you are also trying to argue against those who say Gun rights constitutional in contrast to abortion. Tell us what you mean then, when you make that statement.

Nothing is enshrined, is my simple point, since it is a meaningless word concerning a constitution which is constantly amended. Or don't you know that an amendment deenshrines?

An example is, some would claim the Supreme Court enshrined a woman's right to abort with Roe v Wade, but as you can clearly see, the Supreme Court just deenshrined it and can deenshrine whatever the constitution supposedly enshrined too.

Here is another example of deenshrining.

ono:


Logical reasonings fade into oblivion when we talk of things about the rulership of this world, wirinet. The things of the spirit and that of the flesh (the world we live in) run contrary to one another.

For once, we agree - religion is also an evil scheme foisted on gullible people by no one else than the master of lies himself - the Devil. So you are right in that "religious" people (you said theists - same to me) and their religion are also a huge part of the problem. Non theist rulers "appear" to be doing well. That is a lie from the pit of hell. Do not be deceived.

And that's the reason you should not be a part of these evil machinations, my friend. Stay clear or you'd be a part of those that will be partakers of the wrath of God that's to be poured (in full measure) on the children of disobedience!

Laws that attempt to regulate things of the spirit don't work. They create more problems than they purport to solve. Examples are abound in history, eg., laws that banned alcohol, prostitution, fornication, adultery, marijuana, etc the dont stand the test of time.

budaatum:


Nothing is enshrined, is my simple point, since it is a meaningless word concerning a constitution which is constantly amended. Or don't you know that an amendment deenshrines?

An example is, some would claim the Supreme Court enshrined a woman's right to abort with Roe v Wade, but as you can clearly see, the Supreme Court just deenshrined it and can deenshrine whatever the constitution supposedly enshrined too.

Here is another example of deenshrining.

What would be the requirements for amendments? Two cigar smoking oligarchs in an office or a whole number of states? You betray yourself by the way by saying SCOTUS deenshrined Roe v Wade. What they did which you may not understand is to correct the creation of a law that did not exist. They found that Roe v Wade was not constitutional.

basilico:


What would be the requirements for amendments? Two cigar smoking oligarchs in an office or a whole number of states? You betray yourself by the way by saying SCOTUS deenshrined Roe v Wade. What they did which you may not understand is to correct the creation of a law that did not exist. They found that Roe v Wade was not constitutional.

Basically, Scotus deenshrined what Scotus had enshrined with RoevWade.

budaatum:


Nothing is enshrined, is my simple point, since it is a meaningless word concerning a constitution which is constantly amended. Or don't you know that an amendment deenshrines?

An example is, some would claim the Supreme Court enshrined a woman's right to abort with Roe v Wade, but as you can clearly see, the Supreme Court just deenshrined it and can deenshrine whatever the constitution supposedly enshrined too.

Here is another example of deenshrining.

Well, at the moment rights to own a gun is enshrined till it is amended. so saying dead men bla bla bla... sounds vague
the Argument here and you are missing the point. it is not for the supreme court to enshrine things... it is for them know make sure the laws of the land are being followed.

they cannot enshrine and deenshrine anything. that is why he was arguing that Gun Laws are enshrined in the constitution and abortion is not.

Amending the constitution is another topic.

basilico:


Oh my You must be a casanova judging from the way you are in favor of abortions. Easy for you. Just make out and if things go wrong Roe v Wade makes sure you never pay child support.
Just my opinion. In other words I think you are stating matters out of personal interests.

Lol; and how does that concern you ? Did I impregnate your mother and I didn’t take care of you ?

If you don’t get out of my sight with your ridiculous assumptions.

Btw if I impregnate my girlfriend today I can take care of both her and the child that would come forth and if she doesn’t want the child my state of Pennsylvania still does abortions. Good riddance.

benalvino3:


Well, at the moment rights to own a gun is enshrined till it is amended. so saying dead men bla bla bla... sounds vague
the Argument here and you are missing the point. it is not for the supreme court to enshrine things... it is for them know make sure the laws of the land are being followed.

they cannot enshrine and deenshrine anything. that is why he was arguing that Gun Laws are enshrined in the constitution and abortion is not.

Amending the constitution is another topic.

Now you are close to getting it. Ben. See what happens when you open your eyes and use your mind instead of misinterpreting what I write?

Some were arguing that abortions too were "enshrined" until now that they've been deenshrined, and note that Biden just signed a law reducing the supposed enshrinement of Gun Laws.

budaatum:


Now you are close to getting it. Ben. See what happens when you open your eyes and use your mind instead of misinterpreting what I write?

Some were arguing that abortions too were "enshrined" until now that they've been deenshrined, and note that Biden just signed a law reducing the supposed enshrinement of Gun Laws.

We are talking about the constitution.
Abortion is not in it. the Judges in the SC are not the authors of the constitution. You said they have long died, kinder implying the law should be abolished, you said it is not what you meant. I am only trying to know what you meant because you sure did sound that way.

Biden can only sign a law that is within the constitution. if he goes above it, the Court will strike down the law. that does not mean the court is making its own laws.

madrid5:
but how will this help the republican party,do you know that 80% of Americans support abortion,don't you think a very unpopular ruling like this is destroying judicial credibility?

Just wait till November and see the results. Texas passed its law yet 2 weeks ago a historical Hispanic district that has always voted democrats flipped to Republican

benalvino3:


They cannot ban it nationwide. so they should not vote for pence as well if they don't like him banning their abortion.
they should protect them from sports and other things that women rights are being taken not just protection for killing

They said abortion is against women but who are women? According to our Supreme Court Judge only a biologist can define a woman.

Since we have no definition of women we can say women like Judge Kavanaugh Judge Alito Judge Thomas Judge Gorsuch joined a birthing person called Judge Barret to deliver the ruling

raumdeuter:


They said abortion is against women but who are women? According to our Supreme Court Judge only a biologist can define a woman.

Since we have no definition of women we can say women like Judge Kavanaugh Judge Alito Judge Thomas Judge Gorsuch joined a birthing person called Judge Barret to deliver the ruling

suddenly they know what a woman is

raumdeuter:


Just wait till November and see the results. Texas passed its law yet 2 weeks ago a historical Hispanic district that has always voted democrats flipped to Republican

I think Hispanic are too catholic,but the will start to lose white people's vote because of this issue

benalvino3:


suddenly they know what a woman is

They now have PhD in Biology
If your state does not support your beliefs then vote them out or relocate

How is the riots in front of Judges houses coming on

madrid5:
I think Hispanic are too catholic,but the will start to lose white people's vote because of this issue

But the rhetoric was that the right was the home of white people who don't like minorities.

Most people support abortion up till certain weeks when the fetus is viable

What do you make of this news from CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/19/politics/democrats-asian-americans-biden-carter/index.html

benalvino3:


We are talking about the constitution.
Abortion is not in it. the Judges in the SC are not the authors of the constitution. You said they have long died, kinder implying the law should be abolished, you said it is not what you meant. I am only trying to know what you meant because you sure did sound that way.

Biden can only sign a law that is within the constitution. if he goes above it, the Court will strike down the law. that does not mean the court is making its own laws.

Ben please learn to take responsibility for your misinferences instead of claiming I imply as if I am writing on your silly brain! My "they are long dead" was to imply that the living have the power to deenshrine what had been enshrined in the past, even if the enshriners were still living, i.e., a current president deenshrining what a previous living president enshrined, and that's not to talk of if they are actually long dead. The SCOTUS have exercised their power to deenshrine RvW which had previously been enshrined, and which is what makes the word enshrine mean no more than a pencil and an eraser.

I have shown you an example of a Constitutional deenshrinement already, and bet others reading will soon point out other deenshrinements of the Constitution of the Evolving United States of America as opposed to a country that enshrines and tries to remain stagnant, but if you can read, here's a list of deenshrinements of the Constitution.

The Constitution of the United States, which entered into force in 1789, is the oldest written national constitution in use. The framers of the U.S. Constitution included a provision whereby the document may be amended, generally (though not solely) by a two-thirds majority of each house of Congress followed by ratification by legislatures in three-fourths of the states. (Only one amendment, the Twenty-first Amendment, repealing Prohibition, was ratified in an alternate way—by ratifying conventions in three-fourths of the states.) Since 1789 the Constitution has been amended 27 times; of those amendments, the first 10 are collectively known as the Bill of Rights and were certified on December 15, 1791.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-amendments-to-the-U-S-Constitution-1787122

Does the bold not infer to you that the framers of the U.S. Constitution so did not enshrine it that they included a provision whereby the document may be deenshrined even if it were ever enshrined?

raumdeuter:


Just wait till November and see the results. Texas passed its law yet 2 weeks ago a historical Hispanic district that has always voted democrats flipped to Republican

With 7% turnout in a district that will be in the blue column in November.
Guy rest.

In the same Texas polls after polls show that Abbott has not exceeded 50% he is even struggling with Beto same Texas that was once a reliable red state shifting purple like Arizona.

madrid5:
I think Hispanic are too catholic,but the will start to lose white people's vote because of this issue

He is not even telling you the real story.
See below.

AmazonHippolyta:


With 7% turnout in a district that will be in the blue column in November.
Guy rest.

raumdeuter:


But the rhetoric was that the right was the home of white people who don't like minorities.

Most people support abortion up till certain weeks when the fetus is viable

What do you make of this news from CNN

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/19/politics/democrats-asian-americans-biden-carter/index.html

Yet they make no exceptions for incest many states wanting to ban abortions are having draconian abortion bans more than the Taliban.
At least 2020 and Georgia 2021 showed that if the majority vote Americans are not that stupid.
They have gotten the message from uncle Thomas because even the LGBTQ community know that they are next. The I want to use birth control people are next. Even racial segregation could be next because I don't know why people still showcase confederate flags.
The young generation who will suffer more from this know that they are next but no keep arguing against reality because you cannot accept that today's GQP is so out of touch.

wirinet:


Laws that attempt to regulate things of the spirit don't work. They create more problems than they purport to solve. Examples are abound in history, eg., laws that banned alcohol, prostitution, fornication, adultery, marijuana, etc the dont stand the test of time.

First thing is to appreciate that the forces at play and that we see with our physical eyes are basically what has been determined and approved in the spirit realms. The forces at play are different. One is superior to the other - the spiritual forces are much more powerful (harmful or beneficial) than the physical ones.

But I believe you also must know that the Devil rules in the affairs of men......albeit for a while. He is at play, the hand that plays the strings in essentially all of the world's government. The other day, I read that the WEF - World Economic Forum is run by some people who are hell-bent on imposing a new order on world affairs. I don't want to sound like what you lot call conspiracy theorist , but my point is that there are forces at play that our conventional laws and understanding really cannot match at all. Just like it has now been unveiled that we indeed have UFOs in the world and no one seems to care about that revelations.

If the world's law and conventional reasonings fail, it is because the spiritual laws that govern all you mentioned up there - alcohol, prostitution, fornication, adultery, marijuana, etc have a higher grip on their victims and have more power over the natural laws put in place by the normal carnal man to regulate them. And since these things are harmful in nature and we know add zero to one's life, one can easily say/see that it's the forces of evil that are at play in the lives of those who are addicted to these things - their victims.

Now, we have a God who loves righteousness, who meant well for mankind - in the spiritual and physical realms. And He's all out to save victims - those who are at the mercy of wicked spiritual laws (forces) imposed on their lives by the Devil for which natural man-made laws have been unable to save and redeem. This is not some Christianity preachings and stuff. This is for real folks and this God wants victims of all you listed up there, wirinet, to reach out to his outstretched arm for help, and he will gladly save them.

AmazonHippolyta:


Yet they make no exceptions for incest many states wanting to ban abortions are having draconian abortion bans more than the Taliban.
At least 2020 and Georgia 2021 showed that if the majority vote Americans are not that stupid.
They have gotten the message from uncle Thomas because even the LGBTQ community know that they are next. The I want to use birth control people are next. Even racial segregation could be next because I don't know why people still showcase confederate flags.
The young generation who will suffer more from this know that they are next but no keep arguing against reality because you cannot accept that today's GQP is so out of touch.

Most of them don't realize what's coming, that Clarence Thomas has issues with contraceptives should be a pointer but then they don't understand, conservatives especially Evangelicals want to return America back to its old order and this can only happen by dismantling lots of civil rights and liberties, it took supreme court ruling to legalize interracial marriage in America, with current supreme court judges what are chances they won't reverse it? lots of GOP politicians have already attacked that ruling, they want their ameriKKKa back.

Foolishness of some people to think this American Christianity fueled laws is godly, American Christianity just wants to maintain its order that's all, American Christianity if it has its way will still have some of you plucking cottons in a plantation

sanpipita:


Most of them don't realize what's coming, that Clarence Thomas has issues with contraceptives should be a pointer but then they don't understand, conservatives especially Evangelicals want to return America back to its old order and this can only happen by dismantling lots of civil rights and liberties, it took supreme court ruling to legalize interracial marriage in America, with current supreme court judges what are chances they won't reverse it? lots of GOP politicians have already attacked that ruling, they want their ameriKKKa back.

Not too long ago a senator called Braun said Loving v. Virginia should be left for the states.
Since everything is states right why should there be a Supreme Court the idiots arguing that there is no where in the Constitution to protect abortion rights will also argue that there is nothing like interracial marriage anywhere.

The painful thing is black people and other minorities applauding these idiots and failing to see the bigger picture.

sanpipita:
Foolishness of some people to think this American Christianity fueled laws is godly, American Christianity just wants to maintain its order that's all, American Christianity if it has its way will still have some of you plucking cottons in a plantation

White nationalism they want to maintain that and impose a christo fascist rule. If Clarence Thomas is not forced to resign democrats must rebalance the court with justices that know the law and not a far right ideology that wants to take America back.

AmazonHippolyta:


With 7% turnout in a district that will be in the blue column in November.
Guy rest.

In the same Texas polls after polls show that Abbott has not exceeded 50% he is even struggling with Beto same Texas that was once a reliable red state shifting purple like Arizona.

How many percentage votes were they getting in the years they stayed in the blue column?
Beto will lose again like he did last time.

Why did the reliable blue district suddenly turn red

raumdeuter:


How many percentage votes were they getting in the years they stayed in the blue column?
Beto will lose again like he did last time.

Why did the reliable blue district suddenly turn red

Who said Beto will win I would be shocked if he does the point is that Texas is shifting blue and turning purple and the polls show it.
The last elections showed it. Republicans should know that Texas is no longer Idaho or South Dakota it is not a completely red state the only advantage they have is in the rurals and what matters is turnout and effective messaging.

The district had a low turnout nothing out of the ordinary and will go back to the democratic column when other cities are added because of redistricting the Republican won because there were three democrats in the race another thing is this the turnout in November will not be 7%. Was it not an Hispanic woman that was nearly jailed a few months ago for having an abortion lol they are coming.

AmazonHippolyta:

Who said Beto will win I would be shocked if he does the point is that Texas is shifting blue and turning purple and the polls show it.
The last elections showed it. Republicans should know that Texas is no longer Idaho or South Dakota it is not a completely red state the only advantage they have is in the rurals and what matters is turnout and effective messaging.

The district had a low turnout nothing out of the ordinary and will go back to the democratic column when other cities are added because of redistricting the Republican won because there were three democrats in the race another thing is this the turnout in November will not be 7%. Was it not an Hispanic woman that was nearly jailed a few months ago for having an abortion lol they are coming.

Despite jailing a Hispanic woman for commiting abortion, Hispanics still flood to the Republican party in record numbers

The margin of Betos loss in November will even be bigger than his margin of loss to Ted Cruz last time

raumdeuter:


Despite jailing a Hispanic woman for commiting abortion, Hispanics still flood to the Republican party in record numbers

The margin of Betos loss in November will even be bigger than his margin of loss to Ted Cruz last time

The woman has been released what planet are you in?
In your dreams my guy in your dreams.
Even if Beto loses Abbott will still fail to win convincingly there is no data showing Hispanic support for republiQans they are even stupid to support a party that has done nothing to protect their interest.

Uvalde voted RepubliQan they got what they got.

They will be stupid to do that again but then Americans It is only the younger generation that can save these people from themselves.