FYI Christianity was originally a black African religion don't let white people fool you..christianity wasn't given to us..it has been an African thing since day one in those days In Africa Christianity was called Christianity then..the whites stole it from us and gave us back again to fool us coz they know the black man's problem that they do not like to read...El final!..

aribisala0:
Christianity did none of those things

Why not argue that Chriistianity supported the slave trade for centuries? Under Christian law people were burnt at the stake labelled
witches
Christianity in its history is no less barbaric than Islam .Together they are the worst evils inflicted on black Africans

Maynman:


Bro there’s nothing like that.

İf you are looking for a direct link where some popular historian said that the Roman empire was frail at the time. I'm sorry you won't find one, you'll have to first look at the state of the empire at the time, and make a logical conclusion based on your observations. Where wars constant during the time? Was there a financial crisis in the empire? Where there uprisings and many claims to the throne? Was the empire fractioned and ruled by different factions with different allegiances and ideologies? İf three or two out of the four conditions I've mentioned are true, then one can comfortably come to the conclusion that the empire was in a frail state.

Those are a list of rebellions and uprisings that took place during the 4th century, and it was in this same century that Constantine converted to Christianity. You can also read this article to understand more about the state of the empire at the time:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.historyhit.com/emperor-constantines-victories-and-re-unification-of-the-roman-empire/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi0zsHT79T4AhXZ4YUKHfqxD8wQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw097BgDQXzC8_x6vomfT3Vu

Now Constantine reunited the empire under one rule and did away with fractional rule, but this wasn't really the best. The 5th century was enough proof of that.

I know beyond reasonable doubt that God exists. I just wish He would show me love...

Wilgrea7:

Ok. Firstly, saying that there are certain things an adult should know, sounds like a terrible way to promote learning in my opinion.

Every learning an adult goes through is always based on the fact that he already knows certain things,

And your saying this just shows how greatly under informed you are.

Wilgrea7:

But don't get me wrong. I believe some questions can be stupid. But I wouldn't go by the basis of whether or not the question makes me angry. That's appealing to emotion.

If someone asks a question based on something that is evidently obvious, then yeah. I can say that's an unreasonable question.

If we both observe a blue cup and none of us are colorblind, asking if the cup is blue can be termed stupid. I agree.

As you have confessed, stupid questions makes people angry.

Wilgrea7:

But I don't see how that relates to questions people ask about the nature of a god.

And that is where I saw your problem is. You said it above "evidently obvious".

So who is not going to call that guy who suffers no colour blindness yet he asks "is this a blue cup?

Wilgrea7:

If you tell me that a singular God exists, and that it has a gender, and that it loves me and sent his son to die for me, I have every right, as well as reason to question that. Not because i want to reject your story and ask more annoying questions. It's because i want to make sure I'm getting correct and accurate information

And as I said this are reasonable questions people are ready to answer. But if you enter into the evidently obvious, you shall be called stupid and treated as a foolish child.

Adults know the evidently obvious things and are supposed to know them

Ay92:
I know beyond reasonable doubt that God exists. I just wish He would show me love...

He has more than shown you love, He even gave it.

But the problem is that you people do not want to love Him too, yet you expect Him to keep giving you, even more.

As you can see, He does not do that. And no one does that.

Dtruthspeaker:


Every learning an adult goes through is always based on the fact that he already knows certain things,

And your saying this just shows how greatly under informed you are.

I fail to see how we're at odds here. I think what we both disagree on, is what an adult is supposed to already know.

As you have confessed, stupid questions makes people angry.

I said questions can make people angry.. but i wouldn't classify a question as stupid based on whether it made me angry or not.. that's appeal to emotion.. did you not read what i wrote?

And that is where I saw your problem is. You said it above "evidently obvious".

So who is not going to call that guy who suffers no colour blindness yet he asks "is this a blue cup?

The question can be termed stupid because they're both witnessing the exact same thing (the cup) without anything like colorblindness affecting their perception. If a colorblind person asked that question, it wouldn't be stupid

And as I said this are reasonable questions people are ready to answer. But if you enter into the evidently obvious, you shall be called stupid and treated as a foolish child.

Adults know the evidently obvious things and are supposed to know them

I'm a little confused here. What is there about an evidently obvious thing in relation to the existence of a god, that makes me look stupid or acting like a foolish child?

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

Hmmm...
You need to know this...
Even if the Lord Jesus should appear to you now in person it will make no difference at all to your unbelieving because man was giving the inate ability to believe truth. If you dont believe then you've chosen that path.
I have experienced several divine encounters that have reinforced my faith in God, but primarily my faith in God is from His words.

DrDunamis:


Hmmm...
You need to know this...
Even if the Lord Jesus should appear to you now in person it will make no difference at all to your unbelieving because man was giving the inate ability to believe truth. If you dont believe then you've chosen that path.
I have experienced several divine encounters that have reinforced my faith in God, but primarily my faith in God is from His words.

Rom.1.16 - For I am not ashamed of this Good News about Christ. It is the power of God at work, saving everyone who believes--Jews first and also Gentiles.
Rom.1.17 - This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, "It is through faith that a righteous person has life."
Rom.1.18 - But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who push the truth away from themselves.
Rom.1.19 - For the truth about God is known to them instinctively. God has put this knowledge in their hearts.
Rom.1.20 - From the time the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky and all that God made. They can clearly see his invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse whatsoever for not knowing God.
Rom.1.21 - Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The result was that their minds became dark and confused.
Rom.1.22 - Claiming to be wise, they became utter fools instead.
Rom.1.23 - And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds and animals and snakes.
Rom.1.24 - So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies.
Rom.1.25 - Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen.
Rom.1.26 - That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.
Rom.1.27 - And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved.
Rom.1.28 - When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done.
Rom.1.29 - Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.
Rom.1.30 - They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents.
Rom.1.31 - They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving.
Rom.1.32 - They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

Righthussle:
I am not an atheist , I am a theist but I don't practice any religion. I simply live my life just believing there's an intelligent being who put all the things we see and call the universe together. I don't care about the being at all and I don't believe the being whether it is a he or a she has a son or messenger or anything of that sort. I just live. I am not scared of death at all, I know it's a necessary end for all living things. I love life but I don't like it so much for me to desire a second or an "everlasting life" after death. What will I do with it? If there's life after death, I don't need it. I do good not because i want reward from the being or because I am scared of being punished by the being for not doing good, I do good because it feels good to be good. I don't have words like "Sin" or "Fornication" etc in my dictionary, I eat and do only what the law permits. I don't live my life according to the dictates of any silly religious scriptures. I just live.

I was a Christian until the day I read numbers 31. Ah ! Terrible!

and yet some golible christains will be condemmimg Islam!

MadarasBlade:


You're a joker.

like I said before I don't need to beg you to believe...

Maynman:


They killed other “Christian sects” that are not part of the nicene creed.

Without crusaders, Christianity won’t have spread.

I don’t think there’s any religion that has killed more people than Christianity.

That's a fat lie.
How did King Solomon's name got to Africa, that the Queen of Sheba knew him? Was it by the sword?
How did the Ethiopian Eunoch in Africa got to know about Jesus and was eager to know more, until Philip was sent to him? Crusaders abi?
History has it that Jesus' fame went ahead of him to places that he didn't even reach while on earth. Who be Crusaders? Was John Welsley a Crusader? Was Fanny Crosby or Katherine Kulman a Crusader?
Someone ask prayed on his knees for God to give him Scotland or else he dies. A radical move that saw massive conversion in Scotland.
Or you mean Reinhard Bonnke of blessed memory was a crusader too. Or Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory, or Benson Idahosa of blessed memory, you mean they were also Crusaders?
Do you know how many millions of people converted to Christians round the world because of these men's expressions?
The numbers are still counting, irrespective of terrorists attack on churches and you're telling me Christianity no for spread if not for Crusaders.

This convo is becoming stale.

Sweetplum:

The issue here is you exist cos of the liberal and good life of Christianity. You won't exist again once you start telling us quran is trash. If dem born you well, tell us the lies, myths in Islam if your brethren in the north or any angry head slammer won't come for you.

Don't you think those fanatical muslims are denying the atheists of their rights to freedom of speech and right to air ones opinion?

The fact that christians are liberal NOW (they weren't before) doesn't change anything, afterall even the bible y'all carry asked you to kill anyone who your god, same thing the muslims do.

Bdw I need answer to the question I asked.

peggywebbs:
Why would you go take old statistics to prove your point. As of 2022 Nigeria is not top 10 and that atlas is not a top 10 list.

Chill it's not old, it's current. Nigeria is one of the most populous countries in the world, so automatically we're one of the most religious due to our large population.
Check Wiki and other sources online instead of arguing blindly when the facts are glaring, peace Ma.

Friend22:


I agree,"your" handwriting and all "you" have written has no writer and it just came out from nowhere.
Alphelabets just did a kumbaya randomized danced and viola!
They made sense!!!

Some times one has to loose their ability to reason before becoming an atheist.

Based on a needless comparison

Righthussle:
I am not an atheist , I am a theist but I don't practice any religion. I simply live my life just believing there's an intelligent being who put all the things we see and call the universe together. I don't care about the being at all and I don't believe the being whether it is a he or a she has a son or messenger or anything of that sort. I just live. I am not scared of death at all, I know it's a necessary end for all living things. I love life but I don't like it so much for me to desire a second or an "everlasting life" after death. What will I do with it? If there's life after death, I don't need it. I do good not because i want reward from the being or because I am scared of being punished by the being for not doing good, I do good because it feels good to be good. I don't have words like "Sin" or "Fornication" etc in my dictionary, I eat and do only what the law permits. I don't live my life according to the dictates of any silly religious scriptures. I just live.

I was a Christian until the day I read numbers 31. Ah ! Terrible!

This is exactly me. I share exactly the same beliefs as you. It feels like it was me that even wrote your comment cos I would have written just about the same thing you wrote up here.

So your whole being is just by chance?
No one is responsible for your creation?

LienwaltAbel:

İf you are looking for a direct link where some popular historian said that the Roman empire was frail at the time. I'm sorry you won't find one, you'll have to first look at the state of the empire at the time, and make a logical conclusion based on your observations. Where wars constant during the time? Was there a financial crisis in the empire? Where there uprisings and many claims to the throne? Was the empire fractioned and ruled by different factions with different allegiances and ideologies? İf three or two out of the four conditions I've mentioned are true, then one can comfortably come to the conclusion that the empire was in a frail state.

Those are a list of rebellions and uprisings that took place during the 4th century, and it was in this same century that Constantine converted to Christianity. You can also read this article to understand more about the state of the empire at the time:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.historyhit.com/emperor-constantines-victories-and-re-unification-of-the-roman-empire/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi0zsHT79T4AhXZ4YUKHfqxD8wQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw097BgDQXzC8_x6vomfT3Vu

Now Constantine reunited the empire under one rule and did away with fractional rule, but this wasn't really the best. The 5th century was enough proof of that.

There was never a time the Roman Empire was frail, the links you sent prove they were getting stronger.

Karnice600:


Its still the same thing I stated. RC is more political than religious, birthed from the papacy of the Vatican, the centre of Pagan worship of the goddess of the sun..,They churned Christianity with pagan worship into a blend of doctrine as well as a political order that was spread by the military might of Rome.
Christianity already had its momentum way before then without violence even up till the time of Emperor Nero till today.
Colonization was a political move rather than religious. You're right.

Have you read any of Dan brown books

majek14:
So your whole being is just by chance?
No one is responsible for your creation?

Read about the big bang theory

Karnice600:


That's a fat lie.
How did King Solomon's name got to Africa, that the Queen of Sheba knew him? Was it by the sword?
How did the Ethiopian Eunoch in Africa got to know about Jesus and was eager to know more, until Philip was sent to him? Crusaders abi?
History has it that Jesus' fame went ahead of him to places that he didn't even reach while on earth. Who be Crusaders? Was John Welsley a Crusader? Was Fanny Crosby or Katherine Kulman a Crusader?
Someone ask prayed on his knees for God to give him Scotland or else he dies. A radical move that saw massive conversion in Scotland.
Or you mean Reinhard Bonnke of blessed memory was a crusader too. Or Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory, or Benson Idahosa of blessed memory, you mean they were also Crusaders?
Do you know how many millions of people converted to Christians round the world because of these men's expressions?
The numbers are still counting, irrespective of terrorists attack on churches and you're telling me Christianity no for spread if not for Crusaders.

This convo is becoming stale.

What year did all this happen?
Can you show me where you read the history

Maynman:


There was never a time the Roman Empire was frail, the links you sent prove they were getting stronger.

Okay. Since you made that logical conclusion from all that it's fine. You can read this lastly:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Roman-Empire/Height-and-decline-of-imperial-Rome

LienwaltAbel:

Okay. Since you made that logical conclusion from all that it's fine. You can read this lastly:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Roman-Empire/Height-and-decline-of-imperial-Rome

Chrestian,The link said this

And explain how a small sect could be valuable to the Roman Empire.

Maynman:


Chrestian,The link said this

And explain how a small sect could be valuable to the Roman Empire.

And it also said this, if you don't know what decline means, i can't help your case.

LienwaltAbel:

And it also said this, if you don't know what decline means, i can't help your case.

“For strategic and economic benefits”
Where is the frail? Where is the weakness?
And how did “Christianity” help Constantine to boost economic benefits

Are you reading what you post?

LienwaltAbel:

And it also said this, if you don't know what decline means, i can't help your case.

“For strategic and economic benefits”
Where is the frail? Where is the weakness?
And how did “Christianity” help Constantine to boost economic benefits

Are you reading what you posting?

Mailthaddeus:

It takes a lot of faith to believe that there is no God. I mean, putting fate on d fact that nothing created everything. Hmm

Stars and planets form without anybody creating them, why should we then imagine a creator for the entire universe? Why can't the forces we see forming the suns and planets also be the cause for the universe coming into being?

majek14:
So your whole being is just by chance?
No one is responsible for your creation?

My parents are responsible for why I am here, no "god" involved.

LordReed:


Stars and planets form without anybody creating them, why should we then imagine a creator for the entire universe? Why can't the forces we see forming the suns and planets also be the cause for the universe coming into being?

It takes lots of faith to believe this. First law of thermodynamics, States that the energy in a closed system is zero. Nothing can come into perfect existence by itself.

Maynman:


“For strategic and economic benefits”
Where is the frail? Where is the weakness?
And how did “Christianity” help Constantine to boost economic benefits

Are you reading what you post?

When an empire is in decline what does it mean?

Maynman:


“For strategic and economic benefits”
Where is the frail? Where is the weakness?
And how did “Christianity” help Constantine to boost economic benefits

Are you reading what you post?

When an empire is in decline what does it mean? I don't know if you're blind or you're just purposely dodging the part where it said, he failed to save it from decline. The same link also said that before he brought all factions of the empire under his rule there were several claimants to the throne and Rome was also fractioned deeply.

İt is you i should be asking that question.

LienwaltAbel:

When an empire is in decline what does it mean?

Kindly explain how economic decline has to do with what you said here.


There was no “Christianity” before Constantine, Constantine created NICENE CHRISTIANITY.
The Roman Catholic created edited and complied your New Testament starting from sinaiticus.

You guys were first called “Christian” by Agrippa in Antioch.

temi1290:


Don't you think those fanatical muslims are denying the atheists of their rights to freedom of speech and right to air ones opinion?

The fact that christians are liberal NOW (they weren't before) doesn't change anything, afterall even the bible y'all carry asked you to kill anyone who your god, same thing the muslims do.

Bdw I need answer to the question I asked.

The part of the Bible that asked to kill literarily has been explained better.
When you read both old n new testament Bible, you ll see the logic of good news which God gave. And Jesus came to perfect it.
It is the joy of God for people to be saved & not perish. So stop twisting Bible that it says people should kill who one God commanded or not.
Now talking about liberal lives, when did Christians become non tolerant?
Christianity started in the new testament. So tell me where the apostles practiced Jewish laws of Torah law.
I put it to you temi1290 if you are human enough to highlight the hocus pocus of the Qur'an.