₦airaland Forum

Johnrake69:
Who is responsible for the jump in diesel? Is APC not the ones Nigerians voted into power to solve problems?

Why are you people always looking to defend an anomaly? How much are you paid?

Ojota protest comes to mind. Increase was about 60% the current clowns in government were ready to shut down Nigeria. Today we have experienced about 500% increase in Gas and diesel and everyone is quiet.

you sound like an illiterate(doesnt mean u r an illiterate)..sorry to say..and i didnt insult..
this is the same mentality the average thugs and touts on street have

did buhari send ukraine to go and romance with NATO or putin to start a war..or u think this increase is only in Nigeria

the same BRT price u paid in 2020 when diesel was N180 is the same price u want to pay when it is N800..haba na..u sef check am

APC isnt responsible for the jump in oil prices and diesel respectively..it is a deregulated market..meaning the price is determined by how much marketers import the product..

even if we produce diesel locally..the price difference cannot pass N50..meaning..the diesel price will still correspond to the exchange rate and price of crude oil,..

u have to admit that the cost of living all over the world is exponentially high and this is beyond government..
double ur hussle..

They need more money for campaign

No increase in salary . Too bad

Cognitivereason:
you sound like an illiterate(doesnt mean u r an illiterate)..sorry to say..and i didnt insult..
this is the same mentality the average thugs and touts on street have

did buhari send ukraine to go and romance with NATO or putin to start a war..or u think this increase is only in Nigeria

the same BRT price u paid in 2020 when diesel was N180 is the same price u want to pay when it is N800..haba na..u sef check am

APC isnt responsible for the jump in oil prices and diesel respectively..it is a deregulated market..meaning the price is determined by how much marketers import the product..

even if we produce diesel locally..the price difference cannot pass N50..meaning..the diesel price will still correspond to the exchange rate and price of crude oil,..

u have to admit that the cost of living all over the world is exponentially high and this is beyond government..
double ur hussle..

What are you saying?
even if we produce diesel locally..the price difference cannot pass N50..meaning..the diesel price will still correspond to the exchange rate and price of crude oil,..

Mandate2023:
Not bad but he should also try and work on workers salaries too as things r getting out of hand and d buses should not keep ppl waiting for too long at d bus stops

Lolz

Tinubu needs ALL the MONEY to campaign, so LAGOSIANS go hear am

inoki247:
Cross border to Benin, Togo, Ghana, any nearby Africa country and see for yourself the rate didn't jump only in Nigeria....


If you go to US go to Europe same thing so you want to tell me is APC that's rulling doz ones....


We av clueless leaders with clueless policies buh dere ar things we can't shy away from presently the price of fuel is high everywhere so this is not a party thing...


Unless you want subsidy on petrol again and the Govt create anoda looting Avenue for dem self's...

I get weak when I hear this excuse from the so called woke Nigerians.

Those countries you mentioned enjoy power supply more than Nigerians.


Please tell me what's the minimum wage in Nigeria compared to Europe and America you have mentioned?

Since the deregulation of Diesel how has that improved our lives as Nigerians?

There's no oil producing nation buying fuel as costly as Nigeria when we compare the earning power of their citizens. What will bury this country is corruption.

Nigerians are already extremely poor. Exposing Nigerians to more hardship will only create a crisis we can't solve. Endsars will be a joke.

In Europe, the price of flour, Sugar has remained relatively stable for the past 20years. It's not because it can't be increased but the government knows the potential danger.

Even America pays subsidy to American farmers to make food affordable. Total support to farmers is above $500 billion yearly and America is the advocate of capitalism.

Corn, Soyabeans, wheat, cotton and rice are all subsidized in America.

But in Nigeria Bread has gone from #300 to #800 within a year and according to you it's normal. It's all right.

inoki247:
If we compare the infrastructures personal road put in place to run BRT if other states try it I'm sure dey will be more costly than Lagos BRT fare if they want it to keep running if not it will fold up.....


Look at the Train for instance You can get 1500, 1000 naira bus from Lagos Park and Sole 600, 700 buh Train is 2000naira and na Govt dey run train the train needs maintenance to keep ruining and av staff to pay, av loan to payback so getting subsidized rate from train go hard..

Stop this argument abeg, it is not making sense.

Normally, a private transport company suppose cost past government own because government is expected to subsidise their prices using money generated from other source as a form of providing basic amenities to their citizens, since government has numerous source of income unlike private ones.
But in this case na government own dey cost and they are in a way encouraging those private transport companies owners to increase their fares, because normally dia own no suppose cheap pass government own.

Ask your self why pump prices are always lesser in government owned fuel stations OR major marketers own?

Again, ask yourself why government sell fertilizers, rice, beans etc, at cheaper rates than private sellers?

Do you even know the major(main, primary) reason government is into such businesses?
The major/primary/main reason government is into such business is to make life easy for their citizens, by providing subsidise transportation, fertilizers etc at cheaper rates to commuters, farmers i.e citizens in general, so as to improve food availability.

Unlike private owners who are primarily into those businesses for profit making, making life easy for their fellow citizens is secondary or none of their business.

inoki247:
Lol is competative na if u get to some place you see 800 some 820 so na d competition wey dem mean....

What I sha know is that so far the refinery is not fixed we will suffer like other country suffering right now.....

That's why I asked

Whose responsibility is it to produce and refine?

VoteObi2023:
Ikorodu to Obalende used to be #300

I don't know why non-Lagosians are trying to blackmail us to love Tinubu. Anyone that lives in Lagos knows majority of Lagos residents don't love Tinubu.

They claim he developed Lagos, but Lagos has one of the worst roads in Nigeria. Aba state roads is far better than Lagos State roads.

Most of the FG roads are good in Lagos.

Remove thugs in Lagos, there is no way Tinubu candidates will win Lagos.

NEVER

Now, they have increased BRT price to #600 and expect people to be happy with them.

If Osinbanjo, our star boy can lose his polling unit, who is BAT.

Election no far again. We shall see

Just campaign for your Pandora ole that invested Anambra money into his family business and shotdafvckup Lagosians won't tell you they love anyone until election day, I lived in lag for 8yrs no Igbo state closely better to lagos, comparing that una dirty aba to Lagos who born una papa to reach Lagos achievement.

Still far cheaper than normal buses, we need more BRT buses in Lagos.

This are factors that leads to devaluation of the Naira...you people don't have strategic reserves for petroleum products, make you na give Oga at top $1billion Grant to fast track the refinery you na no gree now he is looking for roughly the same amount in bonds, make you sha oversubscribe to the bonds if he never close.
The trickle down effect would affect everything , on top say you want to start subsidizing transport, how you want take survive on that when you are not F.G

VoteObi2023:
Ikorodu to Obalende used to be #300

I don't know why non-Lagosians are trying to blackmail us to love Tinubu. Anyone that lives in Lagos knows majority of Lagos residents don't love Tinubu.

They claim he developed Lagos, but Lagos has one of the worst roads in Nigeria. Aba state roads is far better than Lagos State roads.

Most of the FG roads are good in Lagos.

Remove thugs in Lagos, there is no way Tinubu candidates will win Lagos.

NEVER

Now, they have increased BRT price to #600 and expect people to be happy with them.

If Osinbanjo, our star boy can lose his polling unit, who is BAT.

Election no far again. We shall see

Geddifok back to Onitsha or Aba if you don't like the price increase.

All these village people sef.

Those criticisms are very needed to keep the government eyes active


If u don gerrit forgrrt abrrit it

Holla911:
Until we
all shy away from sentimental games of politics of interest and tribalism, we won't see and agree that the cost of living in rising everywhere in the world.
As the people demands increases so the taxes from the government.
Lagos operate on a "direct" and "indirect" tax system to function as a state.
Other states are also increasing there tax rate but less to show for it yet you all complain of Lagos.
Let's accept the realities of things.
Let's hope and pray that the war in europe doesn't escalate outside Ukraine.

Holla911:
Until we all shy away from sentimental games of politics of interest and tribalism, we won't see and agree that the cost of living in rising everywhere in the world.
As the people demands increases so the taxes from the government.
Lagos operate on a "direct" and "indirect" tax system to function as a state.
Other states are also increasing there tax rate but less to show for it yet you all complain of Lagos.
Let's accept the realities of things.
Let's hope and pray that the war in europe doesn't escalate outside Ukraine.

God bless you for this, have been living in Milan for six years now, cost of living has skyrocketed gas,light and groceries. No thanks to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and managing a traumatised post covid_19 economy.
Was in Nigeria for four weeks in May, when people tell me cost of things is on the high side, I tell them it's every where.


We rise by lifting others

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https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/06/inflation-sanwo-olu-approves-hike-in-brt-fares-by-n100/

SANWO -OLU PLEASE REVERSE THIS MOVE. IT MIGHT CAUSE YOU YOUR MANDATE

Increasing of transport fare without increasing minimum wage shows Sanwolu failure in governance.

CheapHomes1:
Do Benin, Togo, Ghana and other nearby Africa country produce crude oil? Which are the any nearby African countries you are talking about?

Why has the price of fuel and cooking gas increased in Europe? Do they have crude oil in Europe?

In terms of subsidy, are you aware that Germany is subsidizing for it's citizens?

Also, we thought subsidy on diesel has been removed and the promise was that it will be more "competitive"? Where is the competitive?

producing oil isnt an excuse..my friend..
what Nigeria will save if it is produced locally is forex and the cost of transporting the product on sea..the original price which almost the same as the landing price of petroleum products in nigeria today remains the same

inshort petroleum product in every african country is relatively the same excluding (taxes and other levies)

what makes it cheaper in the countries that produces oil e.g Nigeria and angola is because they pay SUBSIDIES!
germany is subsidizing the same way nigeria subsidizes PMS...otherwise..do u think it magic that PMS maintained it price at around N167-N170 and diesel and gas, more than double and tripled respectively..

the US has excess crude and enough refining capacity...it like u havent been in the news lately to know that gas has doubled in the US...

Diesel isnt subsidize that is why it rose from N180 to N800+..while PMS rose from N147 to N170..
government spends N3 trillion every year to subsidize PMS alone...

ur problem is dat you want government should spend trillions and subsidize cooking gas, diesel, kerosene, jet fuel even lubricating oil..
u for kukuma say let spend our entire budget to subsidize all petroleum product na

right now we re at the mercy of dangote to finish his refinery not necessarily to reduce the price but atleast reduce the long queue..

marketers are seeing the business as less profitable this days that is why they are refusing to transport the product to all part of the country conveniently

VoteObi2023:
Ikorodu to Obalende used to be #300

I don't know why non-Lagosians are trying to blackmail us to love Tinubu. Anyone that lives in Lagos knows majority of Lagos residents don't love Tinubu.

They claim he developed Lagos, but Lagos has one of the worst roads in Nigeria. Aba state roads is far better than Lagos State roads.

Most of the FG roads are good in Lagos.

Remove thugs in Lagos, there is no way Tinubu candidates will win Lagos.

NEVER

Now, they have increased BRT price to #600 and expect people to be happy with them.

If Osinbanjo, our star boy can lose his polling unit, who is BAT.

Election no far again. We shall see

So go and live in Aba na! Just dey rant nonsense. Is Tinubu the governor of Lagos State? After Tinubu the present governor is the third one. Using Aba road to compare Lagos, Aba the dirtiest city in Nigeria.

Of course Tinubus puppet.... Jagaban has directed him to do so.... So he can recover some of the money spent in eagle square Abuja.

pafo:
You do realize this increase has nothing to do with Tinubu right? Do you people think at all?

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Cognitivereason:
you sound like an illiterate(doesnt mean u r an illiterate)..sorry to say..and i didnt insult..
this is the same mentality the average thugs and touts on street have

did buhari send ukraine to go and romance with NATO or putin to start a war..or u think this increase is only in Nigeria

the same BRT price u paid in 2020 when diesel was N180 is the same price u want to pay when it is N800..haba na..u sef check am

APC isnt responsible for the jump in oil prices and diesel respectively..it is a deregulated market..meaning the price is determined by how much marketers import the product..

even if we produce diesel locally..the price difference cannot pass N50..meaning..the diesel price will still correspond to the exchange rate and price of crude oil,..

u have to admit that the cost of living all over the world is exponentially high and this is beyond government..
double ur hussle..

Lol... You're just an ignorant Mofo. I can bet my life you don't even know what hustle is about.

Show me where Europeans and Americans are buying gas at 500% increment from last year despite the Russian and Ukrainian war?

Your level of ignorance in this country needs to be given special attention.

What we have is imported inflation because the APC government failed to build new refineries or make our old ones to work like they told us before they got into power.

It's only in Nigeria we make excuses for clueless government.

And telling me that even if we produce diesel the difference won't be more than #50 really shows how daft you're.

A simple Google search would have help cure your ignorance.

Iran sells diesel locally at $0.011

Venezuela $0.022

Angola $0.315

Algeria $0.199

Ethiopia $0.679

Togo $1.064

America $1.511

Nigeria $1.617

Presently Nigerians are buying diesel higher than Americans.

Our per capita income is $1800 while America is $63,000.

FuckAllTheMODs:
Stop this argument abeg, it is not making sense.

Normally, a private transport company suppose cost past government own because government is expected to subsidise their prices using money generated from other source as a form of providing basic amenities to their citizens, since government has numerous source of income unlike private ones.
But in this case na government own dey cost and they are in a way encouraging those private transport companies owners to increase their fares, because normally dia own no suppose cheap pass government own.

Ask your self why pump prices are always lesser in government owned fuel stations OR major marketers own?

Again, ask yourself why government sell fertilizers, rice, beans etc, at cheaper rates than private sellers?

Do you even know the major(main, primary) reason government is into such businesses?
The major/primary/main reason government is into such business is to make life easy for their citizens, by providing subsidise transportation, fertilizers etc at cheaper rates to commuters, farmers i.e citizens in general, so as to improve food availability.

Unlike private owners who are primarily into those businesses for profit making, making life easy for their fellow citizens is secondary or none of their business.

lol ...I never knew government sell rice and beans

anyways..in 2020, diesel was around N180..transport via BRT from ikorodu - cms was around N300
today diesel is N800+ and still rising.. even though it is th responsibility of government to ensure to cater for the citizens which is what they have been doing..it will still put extreme pressure to sustain a service in which it cost of operation has increased by over 400%..

even if u want them to continue even if diesel reach N2000
know that money that they use to pay workers and build infrastructure is what they will remove from to continue to sustain it...in a long run..the citizen will still suffer in another form...

Awise09:
What are you saying?
even if we produce diesel locally..the price difference cannot pass N50..meaning..the diesel price will still correspond to the exchange rate and price of crude oil,..

oga it cannot...except u begin to subsidize again..
if we produce it from profit making refineries..the prices will not significantly drop..what we will save is forex and shipping cost..

Straight ticket for his second term

Cognitivereason:
producing oil isnt an excuse..my friend..
what Nigeria will save if it is produced locally is forex and the cost of transporting the product on sea..the original price which almost the same as the landing price of petroleum products in nigeria today remains the same

inshort petroleum product in every african country is relatively the same excluding (taxes and other levies)

what makes it cheaper in the countries that produces oil e.g Nigeria and angola is because they pay SUBSIDIES!
germany is subsidizing the same way nigeria subsidizes PMS...otherwise..do u think it magic that PMS maintained it price at around N167-N170 and diesel and gas, more than double and tripled respectively..

the US has excess crude and enough refining capacity...it like u havent been in the news lately to know that gas has doubled in the US...

Diesel isnt subsidize that is why it rose from N180 to N800+..while PMS rose from N147 to N170..
government spends N3 trillion every year to subsidize PMS alone...

ur problem is dat you want government should spend trillions and subsidize cooking gas, diesel, kerosene, jet fuel even lubricating oil..
u for kukuma say let spend our entire budget to subsidize all petroleum product na

right now we re at the mercy of dangote to finish his refinery not necessarily to reduce the price but atleast reduce the long queue..

marketers are seeing the business as less profitable this days that is why they are refusing to transport the product to all part of the country conveniently

You haven't answered the questions I asked

Do Benin, Togo, Ghana and other nearby Africa country produce crude oil? Which are the any nearby African countries you are talking about?

Why has the price of fuel and cooking gas increased in Europe? Do they have crude oil in Europe?

In terms of subsidy, are you aware that Germany is subsidizing for it's citizens?

Also, we thought subsidy on diesel has been removed and the promise was that it will be more "competitive"? Where is the competitive?

assholemods:
So go and live in Aba na! Just dey rant nonsense. Is Tinubu the governor of Lagos State? After Tinubu the present governor is the third one. Using Aba road to compare Lagos, Aba the dirtiest city in Nigeria.

I live in Lagos, I pay my taxes in Lagos.

I am from Aba and I can confidently tell you that state roads in Aba are better than state roads in Lagos.

I have my PVC and we ain't voting for Tinubu

ba7man:
Geddifok back to Onitsha or Aba if you don't like the price increase.

All these village people sef.

Imagine someone that doesn't owe a property in Lagos asking people to leave Lagos.

Someone living in rickety brown roof is calling someone village people

JAGS001:
Just campaign for your Pandora ole that invested Anambra money into his family business and shotdafvckup Lagosians won't tell you they love anyone until election day, I lived in lag for 8yrs no Igbo state closely better to lagos, comparing that una dirty aba to Lagos who born una papa to reach Lagos achievement.

Travel Yoruba moslems say no.

Una claim your thief developed Lagos, where are the roads?

Fpxchange:
Must you stay in Lagos? kindly relocate to Aba that has better road and infrastructures.

Another non-Lagosian trying to blackmail us to vote for a thief

Cognitivereason:
lol ...I never knew government sell rice and beans

anyways..in 2020, diesel was around N180..transport via BRT from ikorodu - cms was around N300
today diesel is N800+ and still rising.. even though it is th responsibility of government to ensure to cater for the citizens which is what they have been doing..it will still put extreme pressure to sustain a service in which it cost of operation has increased by over 400%..

even if u want them to continue even if diesel reach N2000
know that money that they use to pay workers and build infrastructure is what they will remove from to continue to sustain it...in a long run..the citizen will still suffer in another form...

LoL, now you know.

You think I was talking about the usual mama put kind of rice and beans?

Haven't you heard of food banks, silos and so on?

Don't you know government sell locally grown rice periodically OR support farmers who do that with the aim. Of making foods available and cheaper?
Again, don't you know ministry of agriculture sells seedlings and so on to farmers?

inoki247:
If we compare the infrastructures personal road put in place to run BRT if other states try it I'm sure dey will be more costly than Lagos BRT fare if they want it to keep running if not it will fold up.....


Look at the Train for instance You can get 1500, 1000 naira bus from Lagos Park and Sole 600, 700 buh Train is 2000naira and na Govt dey run train the train needs maintenance to keep ruining and av staff to pay, av loan to payback so getting subsidized rate from train go hard..

What infrastructures are you referring to ? Lagos actually has some of the worst roads in Nigeria, go to north and see smooth roads. In Delta state you see well tarred roads linking villages.

Like I said I have no problem with BRT fare increment, but don't say transport fares is cheaper in Lagos. Lagos is actually a very small state compare to some of those states , travel and see.